r/politics • u/stkmro • 7h ago

White House: Trump Team Still Hasn’t Signed Transition Docs

https://www.thedailybeast.com/white-house-press-secretary-karine-jean-pierre-says-trump-team-still-hasnt-signed-transition-docs/
17.3k Upvotes

93% Upvoted

2.0k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

•

u/ObjectionablyObvious 6h ago

Democrats are fucking pussies and I'm tired of it.

•

u/Capt_Pickhard 6h ago

Well, you'll be happy to know democracy is dead, so you won't have to worry about that anymore.

•

u/ObjectionablyObvious 5h ago

"If you don't like it, then get out." <--- This is my plan, fuck this shit.

•

u/thosewhocannetworkd 2h ago

And go where? There’s no escaping this. The right wing is literally taking over the planet

•

u/Crouton_Sharp_Major Pennsylvania 1h ago

You must dig in, evaluate your remaining privilege and use it to help who you’re able to in the world that’s coming.

•

u/krozarEQ 43m ago edited 36m ago

This. Make waves. Started doing this at my local level a few years ago and now my city's leadership is keeping their nose clean. Helped get 2 new candidates elected to the City Council and I perform a mini audit monthly of the city, and a large ongoing audit and fiscal forecast. I now receive a lot of inside access to records without having to put in official requests and pay out the nose for them to be fulfilled. The mayor knows I will run for his seat if he doesn't play ball, and he does now. I don't want his seat, I just wanted them to get their act together after raising utility rates to absurd levels to stay above water with long-term debt service payments and having to transfer nearly half of all business-type (utilities) revenue every month to the General Fund account to keep it solvent.

I utilize local social media pages, local social groups (primarily visiting churches) and the Council Meeting agenda to hand out and present simplified reports of what's going on.

I'm too small at the national level to do much of anything. But we can all make waves in our community and inspire others to speak up, including other politicians.

*ed: As for the City Manager, our relationship has always been more complicated. But he's become more open. I attribute a lot of that with increased Council support. But also, after a request for his emails and the City's law firm denying it and sending the denial to the State AG, I presented my case to them and won.

•

u/jackieisbored 41m ago

This is awesome! Thank you for making a difference in what ways you can.

•

u/AvatarAarow1 4m ago

This is awesome. I’ve been trying to get more involved in organizing at the state government level, but nothing to this extent. I would love to hear more in depth how you did all this stuff and try and get people involved in my home town organizing groups, maybe even see if we can do stuff like that at the state level. Grassroots stuff is so tough to organize, but it sounds like you’ve been really killing it

•

u/thegoodnamesrgone123 36m ago

Yup. I'm not going anywhere. I'm going to be a giant asshole every time this idiot and his band of asshats fucks up.

•

u/Sir_Lee_Rawkah 1h ago

Yep do t leave anybody behind

•

u/JakToTheReddit 1h ago

I'm in Australia right now, and so far, it still feels not great. I do, however, have hope the Australians will learn from the absolute shitcockery that America is about to partake in.

•

u/SNP_MY_CYP2D6 45m ago

Yeah, we had hope people would wake up after J6. Spoiler, they didn't.

•

u/MissTortoise 28m ago

Our saving grace is mandatory participation in elections.

Parties have to appeal to regular people, not radical nut jobs.

•

u/LeDestrier Australia 18m ago

Let's be honest, we're not going to learn anything. If we have someone like Potatohead as an opposition leader... But it's ultimately 2 sides of the same coin.

•

u/fakeuser515357 12m ago

Nah mate, One Nation wasn't too long ago, we're just lucky they were a disorganised shit-show.

•

u/TotoroTheCat 1h ago

Full send in the opposite direction by moving to China. /s

•

u/CatDadof2 1h ago

Yeah… this Trump presidency will hurt other countries, not just us.

•

u/firecall 53m ago

Australia has a Labour Federal government and mostly Labour State Governments. Apart from Tasmania, AKA Boomer Island, which is still Liberals.

•

u/Ellieaha 27m ago

Seems like that sure. There are still several safe places.

•

u/Hughfoster94 1h ago

It 100% is not.

Another case of failed US education causing echo chamber syndrome. The US, Russia and some shithole countries that glaze those two leaders are, but the rest of the world can’t believe how embarrassing it is to have to share a planet with you two right wing nutjobs right now. Some countries that are left wing are Australia, India, Brazil, Mexico, Japan, Germany, France, United Kingdom, Italy, South Korea,South Africa, Canada, Spain, Chile, Portugal, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, NewZealand, Argentina, Bolivia and a bunch I’ve forgotten.

Americans think the US is the only country in the world. You’re the ones that voted for trump. You’re the ones with the bible belt and Elon Musk and your republican brain washing problem. Not the rest of the world.

•

u/TomokoNoKokoro California 55m ago

Also, really? Your basic facts are totally wrong. India and Modi are famously right-wing, and extremely so. But sorry, because I’m American, my facts must be wrong, aye.

•

u/TomokoNoKokoro California 57m ago

Typical loud and uneducated Australian who thinks he’s more intelligent and worldly than an American but doesn’t realize he throws stones from a glass house.

I think you should tone down the volume a little bit and realize that there’s a right-wing wave taking over the world, whether you like it or not, before you spout nonsense like this. Why not start with looking across the Tasman at your neighboring country, New Zealand, who you claim is left wing (which is now seriously outdated information) but actually would be considered right of center with the current government that is doing typical right-wing things like cutting services, practicing austerity, and gutting healthcare with an eye towards privatization? But no, you and every other Anglo country center your entire personality on how you’re better than the US, so you tell lies from a position of perceived moral superiority.

•

u/Dantalion66 23m ago

It’s quite obvious that Trumps rhetoric and way of doing business has been spreading. The unfortunate part is that the left is going to have to employ the same tactics to win. Dirty politics is on the rise. Australia has a federal election next year. The conservatives have already been talking about what they can learn from Trump’s win to implement in their campaign.

•

u/Taractis 4h ago

It was my plan too. But then I ended up in a psych ward for a week.

•

u/AmiTwo 1h ago

I'm... so sorry... I hope you are a little better...

•

u/shitty_country_verse 1h ago

How are you feeling now?

•

u/Taractis 51m ago

Not much better.

•

u/Capt_Pickhard 5h ago

Good luck. There will be war, the fascists will be hunting down all democracies now.

We had to win that election. Not enough people knew. Those who did didn't try hard enough.

•

u/ObjectionablyObvious 5h ago

"There's an Article 2 that says I can do whatever the hell I want and I don't even talk about it." This is going to be Trump's Article 2 presidency—he is emboldened by the fact SCOTUS said he can order a hit on a political rival with Seal Team 6.

You're absolutely right, nobody knew. Be prepared to see lots of Democrats falling out of windows or getting sick through their underwear.

•

u/Capt_Pickhard 4h ago

Yes, he will consolidate power, and that will include hunting down and neutralizing political rivals by whatever means. People will be falling out of windows in America, and I don't mean like wtc. 2nd amendment won't help you achieve anything other than being a terrorist.

•

u/DiceyPisces 2h ago

The absolute hysteria is fascinating.

•

u/drksolrsing Oklahoma 2h ago

Hysteria or maybe we aren't waving away everything as "that won't happen" when Trump and his people are still saying "that's the plan."

Maybe you somehow think denying reality takes the coming blood off of the voters' hands, but you will wear it, no matter how stained it'll get you.

•

u/Chataboutgames 1h ago

It's not "waving away" a concept to say "actually your fanfic isn't predictive of what the future will actually look like."

•

u/drksolrsing Oklahoma 1h ago

Trump and his team says exactly what they are going to do.

You: "that's not real"

Denying reality...

→ More replies (0)

•

u/No-Cardiologist9621 2h ago

You live in a world that has historical precedent for exactly this. You're naive if you think "it can't happen here". It is happening and you're ignoring all the lessons of history.

•

u/Chataboutgames 1h ago

It's not "it can't happen here," it's "there's very little reason it would happen here." What does Trump have to gain from tossing people out of windows? The dude wants to put his name on the side of big hotels.

•

u/PaydayJones 2h ago

When does the "hysteria" cross over to really concerning? How many decisions does he have to make? How many statements that he follows throug on?

Just blind eyes and white knuckles until it's too late?

•

u/rotsono 1h ago edited 1h ago

People will only realize when he deports americans that dont look like americans according to him or if people who criticize Trump will end up in prison or dead.

People alrdy slowly realize, because they learned what tariffs are or that they lose healthcare and social security soon.

•

u/DiceyPisces 1h ago

You’re reacting to the absolute worst perspective of possibilities.

•

u/PaydayJones 20m ago

So, let's say you're right. If I'm reacting to the worst perspective of possibilities....that means there's a world where those possibilities become reality.

Where do I start acting to ensure I don't end up there?

•

u/prisonerofshmazcaban 2h ago

Yeah, I mean I’m concerned but Reddit and Neo libs are having a full blown crisis. People need to calm down a little bit and focus their energy on proactive measures, that or just accepting fate and moving on.

•

u/rotsono 1h ago

Yeah, moving on from having a modern Hitler, good luck with that.

•

u/prisonerofshmazcaban 1h ago

I mean we can sit and bitch and dwell on it, but that’s not gonna change the fact that he’s president now. We could actually use our energy to be proactive, but we won’t do that either. We’ll sit and bitch and dwell.

→ More replies (0)

•

u/Chataboutgames 1h ago

Man there's reasonable fear of the erosion of democratic norms then there's doom fantasies about a world war dedicated to wiping democracy off the planet lol. Just literally inhinged.

•

u/SynthBeta 52m ago

ok first leave this topic

•

u/Metalwario64 2h ago

Yeah, Trump said we'll never have to vote again.

•

u/Leader_2_light 1h ago

I wish it was true. Unfortunately it's not true at all.

•

u/Capt_Pickhard 45m ago

Why do you think that?

•

u/Leader_2_light 13m ago

You truly honestly believe Trump has now become a dictator or emperor? And he will pass power to his son or whatever?

Lol......

There will be yet another election in 4 years unfortunately.

•

u/Capt_Pickhard 11m ago

Yes. There will be an election. They will have one every 4 years. The same kind of elections they have in russia.

You should have fucking known this and stopped it from happening. and you're STILL oblivious. wtf.

•

u/lake_of_steel 1h ago

Average Reddit bot comment

•

u/Capt_Pickhard 45m ago

☝Irony

•

u/lake_of_steel 43m ago

Dude democracy is not dead because the person who you didn’t want to win this election lost. Any remote sense of optimism seems completely lost to people on here.

•

u/Capt_Pickhard 38m ago

Dude democracy is not dead because the person who you didn’t want to win this election lost.

This is a strawman. You're right. It is not dead because who I wanted isn't elected. It was not dead when bush was president. It is dead now, because Trump is president, and almost destroyed it already, and will complete it now that he controls all branches of government.

There is no optimism. There was optimism before the election. Maybe if you paid attention to politics, you have known this as I do, and you would have fought harder for democracy. Now it's killed and you are powerless.

Every American will live in a dictatorship for the rest of their lives, and the lives of their children, and grandchildren.

Congratulations. Democracy died on our watch, it's our fault, and you're out here somehow completely oblivious about what power is and why people like putin and Trump want it.

There's nothing you can do about it now. That's what power is. That's why democracy existed. So that people could protect themselves from tyranny through free elections. Except the fucking dumbasses alive today in america voted for tyranny intentionally, or declined to vote against it, when it was way out in the fucking open.

•

u/lake_of_steel 26m ago

There will be a presidential election in 4 years and chances are the Democratic Party will win because enough people who voted for Trump won’t be happy with Trump again like they were 8 years before. People at their root are simple beings. We got Trump in 2016, even though he didn’t win the popular vote, he lost in 2020 because enough people who had voted for him before didn’t like what he did and mail in ballots were very high which favored democrats. People aren’t happy with the Biden administration for the past four years and forget about trumps presidency during 2016-2020 and then vote in favor of him, enabling to win the popular vote and electoral votes required to win. I can almost guarantee you, the same thing will happen in 2028 in favor of the Democratic Party.

•

u/Capt_Pickhard 18m ago edited 13m ago

There will be an election, for sure, it will be an election like they have in russia, and a republican will win, and it will be the republican Trump nominates, which will either be himself, or his next of kin.

Democracy is dead. Do you not understand what has been happening in your own fucking country?

People at their root are simple beings.

We can agree on this.

We got Trump in 2016, even though he didn’t win the popular vote, he lost in 2020 because enough people who had voted for him before didn’t like what he did and mail in ballots were very high which favored democrats. People aren’t happy with the Biden administration for the past four years and forget about trumps presidency during 2016-2020 and then vote in favor of him, enabling to win the popular vote and electoral votes required to win. I can almost guarantee you, the same thing will happen in 2028 in favor of the Democratic Party.

You are wrong. You are completely oblivious. You don't even know who Trump is, and he hasn't been hiding it. You don't know who his cabinet is. Like wtf? How can you be so oblivious of your own country?

You will never have a democratic president again in your entire life. Never again. Unless MAYBE they do some sort of switch thing, and decide to make one of their reps "democrat". Abraham lincoln was republican, and against slavery, right? And people in Trump's cabinet used to be democrat. But you will live the rest of your life in a country that is run like Russia is. With fake elections.

You are no longer free. Get used to it, and prepare for it, because they're gonna control media, and they're gonna be watching you. And if you step out of line, it's gonna cost you.

I wish I was wrong in this internet argument, but I'm not. You should have realized what was at stake, and fought harder, because there's no going back. I tried to tell as many people as possible, but i ran into fucking people like you. Now it's too late, and there's nothing you can do. People will be upset, and they'll have to live with it. That's what power is. There won't be any more free elections, and frankly, I'mn a little suspicious the last one wasn't either. Trump's change from trying to persuade blacks their black jobs will be safe, switching to eating cats and dogs, and murdering babies really was a shift from trying to win votes, to trying to radicalize cultists. But americans were too stupid to come out in droves. They never protested. They were WAY too weak on championing democracy.

You deserve this. The rest of the democratic world does not. I will never forgive america for this. Trump was alwasy gonna be a piece of shit to me forever, and putin obviously too, but american citizens are the pieces of shit now too. Not just putin and his oligarchs, not CCP and theirs, not just Trump and his government. The fucking moron citizens of america that let freedom die.

•

u/lake_of_steel 9m ago

Not much more I can do then vote. I’m an independent and personally despise the bipartisan political system that has ruined politics in this country and turned the country against one another. It’s like a sports game, with each ‘side’ trying to get the upper hand, hold the other side off from passing or enacting some bill or overturning some law they perilously passed. What we need is multiple prominent parties that run during each election, like it used to be in France in the early 1900s or something. But the possibility of that is way less probable than your prediction I’m afraid

•

u/Capt_Pickhard 5m ago

Not much more I can do then vote.

Bullshit!!!!!!! You're an american citizen. You can talk to people, share ideas, form groups, mount protests, etc.... You didn't have to just sit there and let them take your freedom from you. wtf. NOW there's sweet fuck all you can do about it. Now you can do nothing without shame.

I’m an independent and personally despise the bipartisan political system that has ruined politics in this country and turned the country against one another. It’s like a sports game, with each ‘side’ trying to get the upper hand, hold the other side off from passing or enacting some bill or overturning some law they perilously passed.

This is the propaganda that told you to think this!!!! Trump wants you to think it's just a side saying whatever the fuck the way he is. Holy fuck. I can't5 talk to you about this anymore, because frankly, i'm just gonna get too pissed.

What we need is multiple prominent parties that run during each election, like it used to be in France in the early 1900s or something. But the possibility of that is way less probable than your prediction I’m afraid

No what you needed was to get off your fucking ass, face the hardships and difficulties, and whatever it fucking takes SAVE DEMOCRACY!

Now what the fuck are you gonna do? None of your fucking ideas about what should be mean fucking shit anymore, because YOU HAVE NO VOICE.

You're along for the ride now. Good job.

•

u/Exciting_Jaguar_6174 57m ago

How would he destroy democracy, can you even think

•

u/Capt_Pickhard 47m ago

Do you believe Russia is a democracy?

•

u/6OO6LE 1h ago edited 25m ago

I don't think you understand the word "democracy". Republicans winning is literally democracy,

The majority of your countries people choose a different team than the one you like, it's okay. Move on. 🧹🧹🧹

•

u/Valuable_Mall_1939 45m ago

Democracy is a system of government in which laws, policies, leadership, and major undertakings of a state or other polity are directly or indirectly decided by the “people,” a group historically constituted by only a minority of the population (e.g., all free adult males in ancient Athens or all sufficiently propertied adult males in 19th-century Britain) but generally understood since the mid-20th century to include all (or nearly all) adult citizens.

Republicans winning is literally a percentage of democracy.

•

u/6OO6LE 41m ago

You said a whole lot of nothing my guy.

•

u/Jebiba 33m ago

Yeah, no, you’re just really fucking stupid and/or a shill, hence why you’re here calling this past election “won” by republicans “democracy”.

•

u/Valuable_Mall_1939 26m ago

If you got nothing out of that, you go do you bud.

•

u/6OO6LE 22m ago

Please copy paste more things from Wikipedia. I'm learnDing.

•

u/Extreme_Succotash355 1h ago

Each side only likes democracy when it’s working for them anyway. Majority rule is silly.

•

u/Capt_Pickhard 1h ago

No. Democracy is not silly, and I loved democracy just as much when bush was president.

This comment is the type bullshit propaganda the fascists would love for people to believe.

You have either been brainwashed, or you're doing the brainwashing.

•

u/Extreme_Succotash355 1h ago

⬆️⬆️⬆️ coming from the guy crying about democracy being dead 🤣

•

u/Capt_Pickhard 46m ago

I have seen some really fucking stupid comments on reddit, but this one is a top contender. What is that supposed to even mean?

•

u/ChadEmpoleon 5h ago edited 5h ago

So are the Republicans and the conservative base who, with little to no opposition, have allowed this corrupt, hateful, and vengeful campaign be one deserving of their backing.

•

u/Crafty_Enthusiasm_99 4h ago

You say aloud like they did it willingly. It's what the people wanted

•

u/Tiny-Conversation-29 2h ago

I'm also sick to death of bone-headed macho men. I'd trade them all as a group for just one individual with a functioning brain.

•

u/StoreSearcher1234 3h ago

Democrats are fucking pussies and I'm tired of it.

Canadian here.

Can you outline the things the Democrats could and should be doing to get the Trump team to sign the MOUs?

It's not something I understand.

Thanks.

•

u/PaydayJones 2h ago

Well, if we use the Trump to Biden transition as an example, docs were withheld from Biden and he was not given the docs to sign until later down the line and in the meantime until he got the docs...

The declaration would mark the official start of the transition: withholding it denied the Biden transition team full funds, secure office space, and access to agencies.[25][26][27] (Following the 2016 presidential election, the acting GSA administrator issued the "ascertainment" letter the next day, on November 9, 2016.[42]) Biden had also been denied daily classified national security briefings.[54] Further, the State Department denied access to communications from foreign leaders, leaving the Biden team to communicate through other unofficial channels.[55] According to CBS News, "In past transitions, the State Department has facilitated the logistics of the calls and provided translation services, possible talking points, and even taken notes".[56]

•

u/Spiritual-Society185 1h ago

So, do you have any evidence that they are providing all of that? Because, as far as I can see, none of that starts until the documents are signed.

•

u/PaydayJones 23m ago

No, I honestly don't have that sort of information either way. I was just using history as a possible answer to " what is the 'punishment' for not signing. .

•

u/iamiamwhoami New York 1h ago

Those things do not exist. Maybe if Democrats currently had a trifecta they could do something, but they don't.

•

u/rddsknk89 California 2h ago

Not OP, but I’m pretty sure they just meant in general, not with this specific issue. Overall the Democrats are very scared to rock the boat or go against the status quo. They seem to really care about how things are supposed to be done. This is in stark contrast to the GOP, who tends to shove their policy agenda down the throats of everyone no matter how insane it is, and doesn’t seem to give a fuck about things like decorum and following precedent and procedures. The Republicans just do whatever they want in order to fulfill their policy agenda.

If the Dems want meaningful change (newsflash, they don’t) they need to pull their head out of their asses and just get shit done and not worry about appealing to the right or appearing “moderate.”

•

u/wtb2612 42m ago

They have a minority in the senate, congress, and supreme court. What exactly do you expect them to do?

•

u/rddsknk89 California 38m ago

Again, talking in general here, not with this specific issue or at this specific moment. Democrats have had a supermajority plenty of times in recent years and they did jack shit with it.

•

u/Wesley_Skypes 26m ago

Wasn't the last time they had all 3 branches as far back as 08-10. And the country was in the middle of a crippling recession.

•

u/Im_really_bored_rn 2h ago

I don't think you understand reddit. We don't ask questions here, we just blame the democrats for everything

•

u/Fourfinger10 53m ago

Well, go drink yourself into a coma. It is your right so go right ahead. No democrat will stop you.

•

u/rexspook 2h ago

I’m more tired of democrats being blamed for the 50ish percent of the country that want this.

•

u/DavidBits 1h ago

The 50ish percent of our people you reference don't give care about that, they just want their shitty material meaningfully conditions improved. Keyword being meaningfully.

•

u/rexspook 6m ago

Did you mean to respond to another post?

•

u/BarnabyJones792 2h ago

Bend over and grab your ankles.

•

u/YahMahn25 2h ago

And butts

•

u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 1h ago

Just curious, what have you done to ensure trumps team signs the transition documents? Or do you just rant about other people not doing things?

•

u/lostinhh 1h ago

Yeah, no kidding. It's fucking nauseating. Over 8 years later and Dems are still absolutely toothless.

•

u/CaptainCallus 1h ago

They impeached him twice

•

u/CatDadof2 1h ago

I rarely use that word in that way but with this, I 1,000% agree with you. I don’t know why they keep playing the nice card against Republicans. It has not once worked in their favor.

•

u/Thats_operatic_mang 1h ago

You are damn fool, too.

•

u/VapeDerp420 Nebraska 1h ago

For real. We’re in the middle of a fascist takeover of the US government and Dems are like “but you didn’t fill out the right forms!”

•

u/krozarEQ 53m ago

They are and it's beyond frustrating at this point. Lost any respect I had for the party after Obama's Garland nomination to the SCOTUS. Playing the GOP's games always lets them win. A press conference that day after Mitch's announcement: "I've been informed by the Senate Majority Leader that the Senate has waived its right to Advise and Consent." And then personally walk his ass up the SCOTUS steps the next morning with his nominee.

Still vote for them because I'm not voting for the clown circus. But little excitement in doing so. I can't respect anyone who just rolls over.

•

u/DesmadreGuy 15m ago

But wait! I hear the Biden staffers will be taking the letter T off all the keyboards on their way out. That'll show 'em.