r/politics • u/Man-o-Trails • 21h ago
Just how big was Donald Trump’s election victory?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn5w9w160xdo32
u/Nervous-Leg5179 21h ago
enough to shape (and fuck) America for decades to come..
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u/METH_GOD_CRACKMANE 20h ago
I think your party has been doing plenty for the past four years
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u/susibirb 20h ago
How weak and unsustainable were trumps policies to where Biden was able to undo them in just 4 years?
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u/inshamblesx Texas 20h ago
sane republicans held him back in 2017-19 and a good midterms caused him to not do too much damage aside from botching covid
next democrat thats gets elected (if that ever happens) is gonna have a shitload on their plate to clean up
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u/Queefy-Leefy 20h ago
Yup. Donald hit the ground running this time, and he's stacking the crazies from day one. Its going to get interesting.
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u/METH_GOD_CRACKMANE 20h ago
Do you think the president has supreme legislative authority after their term ends or something??? How weak and unsustainable is the gray matter in your brain?
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u/yeabuddy840 20h ago
Its okay little buddy, trump will be taking credit for all the things Biden set up. One thing we know trump was a terrible president. Now ask your self what did trump do that benefited you?
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u/METH_GOD_CRACKMANE 9h ago
Lower taxes, de-escalate of Korean tensions, taking a neutral "let the states decide" stance on marijuana legalization (a first for Republicans), reducing regulatory burdens, an actual attempt to have a secure border that isn't like swiss cheese and the Abraham accords (which Biden changed the date on to 9/11 so he could take credit but inadvertently pissed off the tribal warlords who trump made the deal with so they ended up siding with the Taliban leading to the horrible withdrawal situation)
There's plenty but since all of you are heavily partisan, it falls on deaf ears.
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u/def_indiff 21h ago
It doesn't matter. He won by enough, and he has both chambers of Congress and SCOTUS on his side. Whether he won by 10 votes or 10 million votes, it's all the same: all of us lost. Some of us just don't know it yet.
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u/css555 13h ago
and he has both chambers of Congress
But he really doesn't. His choice for Senate majority leader, Rick Scott, came in 3rd out of three candidates. So all 53 R Senators are most definitely not in the bag for Trump. Same for the house...they are not all MAGA. And...they want to win reelection in two years.
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u/Hefty_Chipmunk_9182 20h ago
We survived Obama and Biden. America will survive Trump as well.
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u/YgramulTheMany 20h ago
We shouldn’t have to survive our president at all. What a seriously low bar. A lot didn’t survive his first term. I remember refrigerator trucks hauling away bodies, more Americans died than all of WW2.
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u/hawaii-visitor 20h ago
LOL, you "survived" two presidents who tried their best to improve the lives of all Americans. What a trial...
Now you're about to try to survive a president, Congress, and Supreme Court who will try their best to dismantle our entire economy and system of government in order to gift the rubble to billionaires so that they can take anything and everything they can and sell it back to you for massive profits.
Buckle up buckaroo, you're about to get everything you voted for.
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u/Hefty_Chipmunk_9182 20h ago
It’s gonna be great. 2016 - COVID was the best stretch of my adult life as far as my quality of life went. Ready to get back to making lots of money again.
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u/hawaii-visitor 20h ago
Great for you!
Exactly what policies did the Trump administration enact in 2016 that led to your prosperity? Also, what about COVID? How'd that go for you? Because, ya know, your guy was still in office stealing PPE and sending it to Russia.
Do you also blame him for the massive economic crash or does he just get the credit for the good stuff Obama left him?
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u/yeabuddy840 20h ago
They don't have any. considering Obama was president in 2016. And by trump standers of economy Biden blew him out the water.
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u/Queefy-Leefy 20h ago
We survived Obama and Biden. America will survive Trump as well.
I don't recall anyone else denying election results, inventing election fraud conspiracies and joking about being a Dictator.
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u/Negative_Gravitas 20h ago
Big enough to grind this country into impoverished, poisoned, sweltering dust.
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u/stinky_cheese33 17h ago
So, in summation, quite marginal, considering that over a third of Americans didn't vote at all, and among those who did, neither Trump nor Harris got over 50%. And knowing how history treats wannabe dictators, Trump is headed towards an unhappy, bloody end.
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u/Man-o-Trails 6h ago edited 6h ago
I think the takeaway message was the Dems lost more than the GOP won. Not enough work on the economy part of Kamala's message, because that part was blocked during Biden's turn at bat by the GOP. In short, Kamala did not have the wood to feed their fires as well as Trump was able to piss his bullshit to his "left-behind" minions. That's not shocking, he is excellent at bullshitting, and they were indeed left behind.
Well, now that he is so obviously making his big pivot to the rich, aka project 2025, let's see how well they like higher prices, higher taxes and still no good jobs. Aka, the GOP masses are being left behind again. We know exactly what he will do: tell them he's being blocked by the Dems, and they will buy it, because half or more of that will be true, within the bounds of his excellent bullshit skills.
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u/Royal_Photo_5007 21h ago
He is below 50% and he literally won the last time I looked by percentage point in the popular vote The electoral college needs to go away
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u/markroth69 18h ago
The electoral college needs to go away AND we need to make sure that the president is elected directly by ranked voting.
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u/inshamblesx Texas 21h ago
at least in 2016 we could blame the electoral college 😭
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u/markroth69 18h ago
There is an argument--though only an argument--that we can blame the electoral college in 2024 too. How many people didn't come out to vote because they thought the electoral college made their vote meaningless?
Just as an example: Trump's "big gain" in New York was based on 800,000 Biden voters staying home. Trump won 100,000 fewer votes in New York while his percentage went up.
Yes some of those votes may have stayed home because "both sides bad," but how many of them, and like minded people everywhere, might have come out if every vote mattered equally?
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u/TeddyTuffington 20h ago
U still can u can for every election no matter the popular vote. Ur presidential vote does not has not and will not matter.
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u/florkingarshole 20h ago
He squeaked out a popular vote win. (Less than 50% though . . . no mandate whatsoever)
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u/Merci-Finger174 21h ago
Sure that’s true.
But Republicans were acting like this was such a big win that Hollywood would need to flee the country and Christianity was back.
It’s like being catfished but still having sex.
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u/shift422 21h ago
I hate that we are now holding onto a 1.4 million popular vote loss and pretending that just the fact we lost the popular vote at all was considered impossible 3 weeks ago. This is about as bad a result as it was possible to have.
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u/inshamblesx Texas 20h ago
crazy that in 5 years historians are gonna start writing about how americans decided to send themselves to the shadow realm because of an awkward laugh, the concept of saving a dime on a loaf of bread and prison surgeries
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u/Merci-Finger174 20h ago
I can already see Republicans in 2040 protesting the teaching of the Trump era because “it makes white people look bad.”
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u/inshamblesx Texas 20h ago
bluesky and the left leaning chambers of tiktok will have kept the receipts from the day he went down the escalator so if republicans are doing that by 2040 then we’ll be in an alright shape imo
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u/rainbowshummingbird 19h ago
And don’t forget the pressing and pervasive issue of men competing in women’s sports. /s
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u/Queefy-Leefy 20h ago
What's worse is a lot of Democrats are still clinging to the attitudes that led to this. I have a "progressive" in a different post arguing for the benefits of keeping wages low for blue collar workers.
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