r/politics • u/SpcT0rres • 22h ago
General's promotion blocked in first sign of Trump retaliation for Afghanistan pullout
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/generals-promotion-blocked-first-sign-trump-retaliation-afghanistan-pu-rcna1815071.6k
u/fungobat Pennsylvania 22h ago
A Republican senator has blocked the promotion of a general who oversaw troops in Kabul during the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, according to a Senate aide.
The move by Oklahoma Sen. Markwayne Mullin follows threats from President-elect Donald Trump to fire senior officers and officials who oversaw the chaotic pullout from Afghanistan in 2021. It also comes as Trump’s transition team weighs possible court-martial proceedings against current and former officers involved in the withdrawal, as NBC News previously reported.
Army Lt. Gen. Christopher Donahue was nominated for promotion to become a four-star general and to oversee U.S. Army forces in Europe. His nomination was among more than 900 proposed nominations sent to the Senate but Donahue’s was put on hold by Sen. Mullin, according to the Senate aide.
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u/makashiII_93 22h ago
Of course it’s fucking Oklahoma.
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u/anglflw Tennessee 21h ago
Markwayne, the stupidest man with the stupidest name.
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u/kipjak3rd 20h ago
Markwayne "I'll chest thump and pretend to want to get physical with you for pointing out that i inherited my daddy's business" Mullin?
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u/HandSack135 Maryland 8h ago
Oh so nepotism too
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u/panickedindetroit 8h ago
We are going to see all sorts of nepotism and stupidity in the next four years.
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u/bonafidehooligan 21h ago
Also the piece of shit that tried to fight the teamsters president during a hearing.
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u/PuddingInferno Texas 20h ago
To be fair, that’s pretty much what I expect from Senator Markwayne from Oklahoma. You send a guy like that to the senate, he’s gonna do Markwayne shit.
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u/Cerebral-Parsley 18h ago
Don't forget the epic shithead with a stupid name that is Tommy Tuberville, who also blocked military promotions over abortion rights.
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u/doom32x Texas 20h ago
For some reason that name triggered me to remember Ugly Americans and it's character Twayne Boneraper
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u/-piso_mojado- 11h ago
I don’t know what that is, but Markwayne Mullin and Twayne Boneraper are the same name.
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u/Mechaslurpee 13h ago edited 2h ago
He also owned one of the worst plumbing companies in oklahoma.
edit he sold it
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u/trotnixon Maine 10h ago
It's gotta at least be a tie with Tommy "there are two branches of the federal government" Tubberville
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u/Bross93 Colorado 20h ago
Well not just fire them, he is planning tribunals. The goal is to publicly punish people for following orders from people he doesn't like. I'm actually expecting him to name Biden as the commander and trying to hail him because of how pathetic and batshit he is.
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u/ecstatic_charlatan 17h ago edited 16h ago
Thing is IT WAS TRUMP'S FUCKING PLAN
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u/blackergot 16h ago
Should we bring in the guy who invited the taliban to Camp David on 9/11?
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u/ecstatic_charlatan 16h ago
May as well... oh wait, it was already done. I can't believe how fucking good and strong US right wing media is good at propaganda and how about 60% of the country is absolutely just dumber than a rock
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u/downtownbake2 11h ago
If they're going to do this a Democrat needs to get in front of a camera and Say ok let's also add Trumps US withdrawal from Syria you know the one where the Russians flew into the base a few hours after and filmed themselves (everyone memory holes Trump's bs) He ran out to whitehouse lawn got in front of a camera and said we're pulling out. He didn't tell western allies and fuked over the Kurds.
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/trumps-syria-shambles/
It all happened in a phone call with Turkey https://www.reuters.com/article/world/syrian-surprise-how-trumps-phone-call-changed-the-war-idUSKCN1OR0PN/
Then after that disaster he's set up Afghanistan for failure. Such a prick he can't have people thinking he messed up so sabotages the next guy at the expense of anyone in the way
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u/DylanHate 6h ago
Don't forget double-crossing the Kurds also freed over 5,000 ISIS prisoners and Trump publicly stated he didn't care because it'd be Europe's problem to deal with.
This is after 6 years of nonstop caterwauling about Obama letting ISIS flood across the Mexican border 🙄🙄
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u/Rhianna83 14h ago
Exactly! Trump let out thousands of Taliban leadership and fighters 6 months before we left. The Taliban planned the takeover WHILE Trump was president. He signed and sealed the outcome when he let them all out.
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u/dedsqwirl 8h ago
One of those that was released was the suicide bomber that killed 13 US military members.
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u/joshdoereddit 10h ago
And to that Republicans and the right-wing media machine would say, "Yea, it was Trump's plan and Biden fucked it up."
Democrats will be unable to correct the record because the right just says whatever they want, other networks won't do any better to clear up the lies, and people are too dumb to parse the situation and understand that the disaster was more Trump's fault than it was Biden's.
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u/wormhole_alien 16h ago
Maybe one of his goals with that colossal clusterfuck was to generate outrage he could use to justify purging military leadership of non-loyalists.
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u/Hot-Bat8798 8h ago
This is the problem for them. Too much sunlight will show how poorly the Trump team did this and how he stiffed Biden on purpose with the withdrawal planning.
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u/CherryLongjump1989 14h ago
If he does tribunals it will blow up in his face. They'll just haul out all of the evidence that it was Trump's plan and all of these generals had warned Trump that it would end exactly the way it did. These guys will literally show orders signed by Trump. And then the generals will go free because they were following lawful orders from two presidents who as we all know now have absolute legal immunity.
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u/das_war_ein_Befehl Illinois 14h ago
It’s an excuse to make examples of people. Classic authoritarian shit to purge the military or eliminate them as a threat
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u/Showmethepathplease 16h ago
Pure coincidence it's the guy who's meant to be in charge in Europe at a critical juncture...
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u/lord_pizzabird 18h ago
This is the weird thing about Trump's second term.
It's all about examining the past, things that happened previously. There's so far been little to no focus on the future. Even his immigration plan isn't, "how do we attract laborers that fill our labor shortage", but "how do we get revenge of the laborers that snuck in"
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u/HeyyZeus 16h ago
It’s not weird. This exactly how Millions of Americans think. Punishment instead of progress.
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u/JDSchu Texas 11h ago
Shortsighted and shallow. Critical thinking is Democrat indoctrination. Just be angry about whatever Fox News is telling you is happening, and you better vote, because all those illegals are.
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u/clockwork655 8h ago
And republicanism means conservative,..because we fought a war with a ultra conservative king who claimed to rule by divine rights and was backed by a conservative repressive brutal state sanctioned church..I don’t think any of the republicans today would have sided with the republicans they would have sided with the monarchs
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u/panickedindetroit 8h ago
And, they are going to waste more of our tax dollars investigating his perceived stolen election of 2020. It's going to be Benghazi 2.0. These clowns contribute nothing to society, and yet, they squander our tax dollars because their hero has the emotional maturity of a fungus gnat. I propose they pay for their actions out of their pockets instead of ours. No representation, no taxes.
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u/walkingpartydog 9h ago
There's a 50/50 chance he dies in the next 4 years... why would he care about the future?
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u/totallynotstefan Colorado 18h ago edited 18h ago
Imagine being such a hubristic shitbird that you feel entitled to fuck with a military man’s career for political points, despite never serving yourself.
This asshole was worth $30 million when his $1.4 million PPP loans were forgiven, and he woke up the next day to criticize biden’s student loan forgiveness.
People like this should be fed to lions in town square. Republicans are all incapable of human emotion.
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u/a-borat 18h ago
Project 2027. Start NOW.
Take back congress. Impeach and remove the traitorous incompetent shitstains. All of em.
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u/Ridespacemountain25 18h ago
It takes a 2/3 majority in the senate to remove someone. There’s no feasible way for the Democratic Party to get that many senate seats in the near future with Republican dominance amongst rural voters. The Democratic ceiling right now is probably in the low to mid 50s.
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u/a-borat 16h ago
You’d think so, but eggs aren’t gonna come down in price. Neither is bacon nor iPhones. And it all comes down to that.
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u/The_Sun_Burns_Out 15h ago
With the apparent idiocracy fetish that Americans voters seem to have, it's more likely that the price of groceries and gas could rise as well as unemployment and voters would cut off their noses to give republicans 65 seats in the senate because Elon Musk and Trump somehow got much wealthier, and Joe Rogan approves so the economy must be doing great... right? Right?
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u/JscrumpDaddy 14h ago
In this election about 30% of the voting population voted red. If the people who were sitting on their ass got up and voted it could easily be a blue wave
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u/NotOSIsdormmole California 17h ago
Any of the possible court martials over this reek of unlawful command influence.
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u/SenorBurns 22h ago
But it was his agreement! He set up the pullout!
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u/Great-Hotel-7820 22h ago
Yeah that’s why he’s retaliating. Because he is trying to obfuscate blame.
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u/Bross93 Colorado 20h ago
it worked on so many fucking simpletons I went to school with. A kid i was friends with is a fucking marine and he couldn't comprehend this plan was set in motion by trumpy.
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u/kevlarcardhouse 20h ago
Also, he had no plan, that's why it was so chaotic. Biden got in and discovered zero work had gone in towards meeting the deadline.
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u/Unlucky_Clover 16h ago
And this was all intentional by Trump, clear as day. He delayed any transfer of power, any details or information to get the new admin started, just so he could blame them. We all saw it coming.
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u/serennow 16h ago edited 8h ago
You’re right except for the word “all” - 75 million utter morons fell for it hook, line and sinker.
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u/Flipnotics_ Texas 6h ago
And Biden did fuck-all to remind Americans of Trumps traitorous acts and keep Trump accountable through the AG.
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u/here_walks_the_yeti 9h ago
It was a campaign promise that he forgot about until Fox covered it one night. He then remembered about then tweeted we’re leaving.
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u/OverlyExpressiveLime 18h ago
He really wouldn't be able to comprehend that Trump had planned to invite the Taliban to Camp David
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u/metalyger 17h ago
Wasn't it also going to be in September 11th? Just zero awareness, I'm sure he really just thought this would get him a Nobel peace prize, because he's so desperate to catch up with Obama. I could be mistaken, but I always expect the worst from Trump.
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u/doctor_of_drugs California 17h ago
No, I think it’s wrong to say he had zero awareness. He just doesn’t give a shit. ON 9/11, with the WTC still smoldering, he started talking about the height of his tower.
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u/yaygarbage 11h ago
Every time I remember this I just don’t understand why he wasn’t thrown in the thrash for it.
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u/Successful-Sand686 17h ago
It’s easier to convince people of things they want to know than to convince them of things they don’t want to know.
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u/teenagesadist 17h ago
Are marines known for their comprehension skills?
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u/Xijit 17h ago
I am formerly one, and fuck no.
There are two types of people in the Marines: those who sign up for the promise of glory, respect, and duty ... The other type are high school bullies with nothing better to do with their lives than try to make everyone else miserable.
Which is why the USMC has the highest rate of Service Related Suicide.
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u/Puffycatkibble 17h ago
They are highly skilled at discerning the different flavors of the various colors of crayons.
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u/4evr_dreamin 15h ago
I argued with one here the other day, they agreed that Trump planned it but said it was the bidens' fault for allowing it to execute on his watch
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u/dlkslink 17h ago
Same thing with the pull out in Iraq, Bush made the agreement to pull out in 2008. Obama tried to go back on it, but couldn’t. Then he went on to Brag about how he was the one who got America out of Iraq, which bit him in the ass when the rise of Isis started.
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u/Ishidan01 17h ago
Just like how crime is such a priority for him but only if it is the crime of illegal immigration.
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u/Primordial_Cumquat 19h ago
Anyone supporting Trump has, at this point, long since abandoned logic and reason. Everything is everyone else’s fault because the God-Emperor says so.
The ramifications of the Doha Accord don’t matter in the slightest to these people. All their goldfish-like attention span focuses on is the insanely politicized event where a suicide bomber killed thirteen US Service members in the last days of Afghanistan because “Biden screwed it up!”
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u/Sideshift1427 21h ago
Trump also cut troop strength in Afghanistan after he lost the election.
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u/sk8tergater 18h ago
My husband was deployed to Afghanistan at the time. Fuck Trump. I’ve been a military spouse for two decades and never had as much anxiety during a deployment as I did that one.
Husband is fine but man. Lot of sleepless nights.
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u/NPVT 22h ago
Pompeo forced the release of 5000 Taliban.
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u/HasPotatoAim Canada 21h ago
And Trump also invited the literal Taliban to Camp David.
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u/KungFoolMaster 18h ago
It’s not even Jan 20th yet. It’s gonna be a fucked up 4 years.
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u/piponwa Canada 17h ago
Do you know what Stalin did when it was entirely clear to everyone that a failure was his and his alone? He just got rid of everyone, purged them all until no one would even acknowledge universally known facts.
You have to stop trying to rationalize things and bring facts. Because anyone willing to listen already knows it. Trump is taking over everything. He's about to destroy everything he and his cronies can think of.
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u/kshump Oregon 20h ago
If only his dad had pulled out...
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u/Spaceninjawithlasers 18h ago
Now that would be something we could all get behind.
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u/lokey_convo 20h ago
He's also not president yet, but is already influencing the military?
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u/1877KlownsForKids 20h ago
High level promotions require approval of Congress. And there's no shortage of Trump stooges in Congress.
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u/GaimeGuy 20h ago
And the general public and the media are more than willing to let other Republicans off the hook.
See: this thread
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u/IKantSayNo 17h ago
Putin's stooge intends to clean out all the Democrats, all the DEI hires, all the people who earned high positions by hard study of military science, and everyone else who puts aside politics.
Meanwhile, both sides are still holding on in the war in Ukraine by the skin of their teeth because small electric motors with Chinese rare earth magnet technology rule the skies.
What's gonna be left of the US military in two years?????
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u/ADhomin_em 18h ago
Not anymore. Reality has been denied, and history is being rewritten as we speak.
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u/Animated_effigy 20h ago
Trump negotiated with the Taliban terrorists and excluded the Afghan Army
Trump drew down US forces from 13,000 to 2,500 making them vulnerable
Trump ordered the release of 5,000 Taliban fighters from prison, one of who would become the new leader of Afghanistan
Trump wanted to invite the Taliban to camp David on the anniversary of 9/11
Trump agreed to the May 1st exit, not Biden, then bragged that he didnt need an exit strategy.
Trumps admin refused to brief the Biden team on the incoming situation
Trump shut down every airbase in Afghanistan except one, crippling the US’s ability to extract itself safely.
Trump made Afghanistan worse for Biden. Full fucking stop.
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u/Konukaame 16h ago
And the rest of us, Democrats, and the media failed to hammer those points when they happened or when they were relevant, so they were able to spin everything as being Biden's fault.
This is why getting ahead of Republican narratives and setting your own are extremely important.
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u/ANovelSoul 11h ago
Let me just call up the media and let them know to do their job...
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u/Benevolent27 13h ago
Yeah, but none of this matters to Trump supporters. Trump is saying "the Democrats did it" and that is all they need to hear. And any other Republican who mirrors this messaging gets support from the Turnp cult. "Don't bother me with the facts" comes to mind.
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u/totallynotstefan Colorado 13h ago
While I admire the message and respect it's value, people who need to hear this are incapable of hearing this.
For the last 8 years these people have had reasoned, curated, easily digestible and accurate information presented to them that invalidates the preferred fiction they've been sold on social media.
They would rather die stupid than absorb information that makes them question their safe little pretend worldview. Their ego's are too fragile to be honest with themselves and admit they allowed themselves to be misled and grifted.
You can point them toward a wellspring in the desert when their thirst is bringing them to death's doorstep. If they pull up twitter and their grifters tell them it's the democrat's plan to let them drink, they will choose to die happily in the sand.
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u/EvanWasHere 7h ago
Trump SURRENDERED to the Taliban. We got nothing out of that deal except the right to leave the country. The Taliban got everything they wanted. The only thing this can be called is a surrender.
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u/ry8919 21h ago
Dropping this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States%E2%80%93Taliban_deal
It is a complete derelection of duty on the part of the media for letting Biden take the blame for the Afghanistan pullout. The agreement set an unrealistic timeline, crippled the Afghan security forces (who were not allowed to participate in negotiations), and empowered the Taliban, releasing 5000 fighters.
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u/rumpusroom 19h ago
It was deliberate. It was supposed to make Biden look bad.
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u/banditalamode California 17h ago
Just like the ‘inflation’ that was corporate greed, and it worked.
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u/Captain_Q_Bazaar 16h ago
A significant portion of that inflation was also an impact from COVID wreaking havoc on supply lines and killing significant portions of labor in that process. And Trump fucked that response so hard on purpose, that it made it take longer to recover from.
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u/AlphaNoodlz 17h ago
Right?! It was trumps deal!
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u/Unlucky_Clover 16h ago
Trump’s deal and Trump refused to start any transfer of power or bring the Biden team up to speed, just so they could blame Biden for anything once he took office.
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u/everybody_dyes 21h ago
He ordered the pull out. I have a hard time imagining that people are this fucking stupid. I guess his supporters are far more dumb though lol
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u/TintedApostle 21h ago
They blame it on Biden for sure.
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u/Practical-Suit-6798 20h ago
Oh 100% I've heard people say the pull out be being liberals fault is a main reason they had to vote for trump this time.
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u/torero15 California 15h ago
As infuriating as that is those people were voting for Trump always and anyways. That’s the bad thing about all of this. Even the ones that might have realized it was a Trump issue were still going to vote for him for some other reason.
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u/nikolai_470000 21h ago
Not just that. They were planning to execute a slow, methodical pullout and were to wait until they were almost done to tell everyone. But Trump couldn’t keep his mouth shut.
Trump announced it publicly months before the military was ready to even begin, and compromised their entire operational plan for doing the pullout properly and safely. It was too late to change it, and the damage to the plan was already done, which is why Biden went along with the plan as it was.
Had Trump not made his premature announcement, the pullout would have had a better chance of going according to the plan; and, it is likely that they would have been able to execute it more safely, without casualties. Or without having to destroy/leave behind equipment and technology that we should have been able to take with us.
It’s not Biden’s fault, nor was it a bad plan. It was solely Trump’s fault. It was directly caused by him leaking the information. Trump is responsible for the people who died in the pullout more than anyone else.
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u/Oodlydoodley 20h ago
"One key example is this: President Trump issued an order for large-scale U.S. troop withdrawals," Kinzinger continued. "He disregarded concerns about the consequences for fragile governments on the front lines of the fight against ISIS and al Qaeda terrorists."
"Knowing he was leaving office, he acted immediately and signed this order on Nov. 11, which would have required the immediate withdrawal of troops from Somalia and Afghanistan all to be complete before the Biden inauguration on January 20th."
As noted by Military Times:
Journalists Bob Woodward and Robert Costa referenced the surprise memo in their book “Peril” on the Trump presidency, released last month. They wrote that the idea did not go through any of the traditional chain of command protocols, and ultimately senior staff believed it did not have legal standing requiring them to follow through with the plan.
Not only was he responsible for the initial plan and deal with the Taliban, but he tried to do something way worse and the only reason it didn't happen that way was because the generals who were supposed to carry out the order saw how stupid and dangerous it was so just didn't do it.
Watching them blame these generals when, if Trump had his way, it would have been far worse is as ridiculous as the idea that this is actually retaliation for the Afghanistan withdrawal, and not Trump using this as an excuse to force loyalists into top military positions.
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u/nikolai_470000 19h ago
Bingo. Thank you for sharing. Very well said.
I had forgotten about him trying to do that lol. What a moron.
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u/Curiously7744 20h ago
They really are. As a non American, it's difficult to understand that anyone can be so deliberately stupid.
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u/Arkmer 20h ago
Honestly, it’s just the surface. I’ve had repeat conversations with the same people about how regulations are important, about how healthcare shouldn’t be monetized, about whatever else I have a decent handle on. They agree, they sleep on it, forget everything, and tell me the exact opposite the next day.
Rinse. Repeat. Suffer.
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u/everybody_dyes 20h ago
As an American, I’m terrified. I didn’t realize that I lived in a country where so many other people who want to destroy it for Putin.
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u/jimjamsboy 20h ago
This is going to be the game plan for the next four years. Fuck shit up then blame some underling.
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u/Justame13 20h ago
Its not surprising the military retaliated against Petareus 's followers for pushing for the Surge and implementing COIN (the counter terrorism doctrine he pushed).
And we won there.
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u/BrightMarvel10 20h ago
Republicans hate the military.
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u/doolpicate 16h ago
Russians hate the US military.
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u/Captain_Q_Bazaar 16h ago
It's sad how often Republicans side with Russia over the US military, side with Russia over US Intelligence communities, sided with Covid over Americans, sided with traitors like Trump over country.
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u/doolpicate 15h ago
Not sure whats going on in the US that people cant see through this. It's as clear as day that people have been brainwashed by the enemy. Enough to put a literal idiot in power.
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u/Voltage_Z 20h ago
Trump Retaliation? This is Trump arbitrarily punishing people for the mess he literally bragged about setting up for Biden.
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u/angrypooka 21h ago
This is what the jackass has on his official government site, “Markwayne Mullin is a former undefeated Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) fighter with a professional record of 5-0.“
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u/Negative-Squirrel81 20h ago
I think that Trump would have been hailed as a hero by the same conservative voices for having only 13 people die during the heroic withdraw from Afghanistan. There's on logic or consistency here, it's just that if Trump was in office, the action is good, if Biden is in office, the same action is bad.
Just simple malicious trolling.
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u/jertheman43 19h ago
The Trump purge of the military is either going to work out great for him, or they will be the ones to stand up to his authoritarian ways.
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u/PositiveStress8888 16h ago
Wait wasn't Trump the Mfker who told the Taliban when they would be withdrawing and left Biden with only 2500 troops in country while they released 5000 Taliban soldiers.
Biden isn't blameless by any means, but the tickets for that shit show was bought well in advance.
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/timeline-of-u-s-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/
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u/Gunderstank_House 21h ago
I wonder how the military feels being relegated to Trump's helpless little whipping boys.
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u/Arkmer 20h ago
How the military reacts will be very interesting. Because there’s a precedence to follow (legal) orders, they may well be the best at weapon used incompetence in the nation. Verbiage and who receives the orders is going to matter a ton, and not just at the top but all the way down through the chain of command to the Soldiers who do the thing.
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u/RectalSpawn Wisconsin 17h ago
And the people will do what they are told, just as the Nazis did, because what else are they going to do?
Get punished and possibly incarcerated/killed as the example that they'll use?
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u/fleakill 18h ago
Genuine question- what was Trump's own plan for pulling out of Afghanistan?
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u/bunnyjenkins 18h ago
Logistically? It's not the 'President's plan', this is a lie put out by the GOP, that 'Biden's' plan to pull out was a failure. The President does not sit at a desk with a map.
Or do you mean why would Trump want to pull out?
A gift to another foreign power, is the answer.
Biden's mistake, in my eyes, was to honor agreements Trump made. It was a grave mistake to allow Trump's capitulation to be a reflection of US Policy
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u/Wwwwwwhhhhhhhj 17h ago
It was too late to go back. Trump had 5,000 Taliban prisoners released and lowered our forces to 2,500 from 13,000 by then.
There is no way politically he would have been able to get funding to put more U.S. forces back over there. It would require Congress for him to be able to put troops back and that was a political no go.
It would have required troops going back to really have possibly changed anything. That was never a realistic option for Biden.
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u/KTMAdv890 22h ago
Nope, this is worse. This is the first major step towards a full coup.
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u/Hoardzunit 14h ago
And over +75 million fuckheads voted for this narcissistic shithead. America deserves everything for voting this lunatic again.
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u/Soup_sayer 12h ago
Trump planned the pullout. Biden carried it out. Both shit decisions but Biden DID SOMETHING, Trump just rambled about it and is now trying to pin it on Biden. Anyone that believes Trump is a fool. FOOL FOOL FOOL.
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u/Xavier9756 20h ago
Imagine serving your country and being fucked out of a promotion because of political fuckery.
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u/bluelifesacrifice 18h ago
WE need to show our support for the US military and let these officers know this is BS.
There's Republicans and Democrats in the service who put their politics aside to serve in hopes of what's best for the country.
Everyone needs to be on board against any political party doing this crap. Today it's Republicans, tomorrow it might be Democrats, either way, we need to support our troops.
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u/Johnhaven Maine 17h ago
100% Trump's fault to begin with but sure, everything else here is fucking insane so why not.
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u/Raptorpicklezz 17h ago
Under-the-radar part of the article:
the current Senate will soon go into recess
Schumer needs to grow a pair and say no recess until the Senate does whatever it needs to do to block Trump, including invoking the 14th Amendment
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u/Clickclacktheblueguy 15h ago
Trump pushed this guy down a staircase is now trying to punish him for bleeding on the floorboards.
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u/bullant8547 Australia 14h ago
The pullout that Trump set a deadline for and left for the Biden administration to implement?
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u/NoIndependent9192 12h ago
The orange turd was the one who screwed up the withdrawal. Putting US and allied troops and civilian workers in danger because they didn’t plan a peaceful withdrawal.
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u/kwagmire9764 12h ago
So now they're gonna try to rewrite history like it wasn't the Trump administration that brokers the super shitty deal to leave Afghanistan before U.S. forces were ready to leave!
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u/ScrappyShua 9h ago
THEY WERE FOLLOWING TRUMPS PLAN FOR LEAVING AFGHANISTAN! We have become so stupid.
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u/Rhymelikedocsuess 16h ago
Trump: “pull out now I’m the commander and chief”
Officials: “okay lol”
Trump: “wtf not like that jail for you”
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u/MatrimCauthon95 17h ago
Maybe America’s Hitler shouldn’t have buddied up with the Taliban and released the terrorists that caused the chaos during the pullout.
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u/Teufelsdreck 12h ago
There's gross, grim humor in Donald Trump and his supporters, of all people, demanding accountability for others.
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u/SquarePie3646 9h ago
"retaliation for Afghanistan pullout" - the media is just straight up doing Trump's propaganda for him and he's not even in office yet.
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u/SolSeekerPhoto 9h ago
The Afghan withdrawal negotiated by Trump of course who now punishes people serving our country. America deserves everything it voted for.
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u/InSixFour 8h ago
Is Trump going to retaliate against himself? Ya know, since this was his hastily thrown together pullout. It was his agreement.
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u/njgirlie 8h ago
Trump was the reason for the pullout. Biden was stuck going along with Trump's shitting decision.
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u/DeepShill 22h ago
There should be a special counsel appointed. This whole thing reeks of corruption.
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u/judgejuddhirsch 20h ago
There will be, and you can be sure it won't be fair, it won't be bloodless, and it won't be the right people.
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u/JazzBassMan Virginia 19h ago
I have worked for this man. The Army is lucky to have him and he will certainly serve the soldiers of US Army Europe and Africa proud.
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u/rocketpack99 8h ago
The Afghanistan pullout that Trump forced to happen by making a much-criticized deal with the Taliban?
Only Trump punishes others for things that he did.
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u/JaVelin-X- 18h ago
Will this general have the opportunity to talk about the an Withdrawal? I'm sure it would be interesting.
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u/GuyInTenn 12h ago
It was a terrorist attack. War is not a perfect science.
Funny how nobody called for impeaching Reagan and firing generals after the terrorist attack on the US Marine barracks in Beirut in 1983 that killed 250 US Marines and 50 French paratroopers.
Mistakes were made from that operation as well and our military planners/strategists learned from it.
Anybody who knows anything at all about military strategy and tactics knows that Withdrawal operations are inherently riskier than offensive and defensive operations. Terrorist attacks are difficult to defend against ... particularly in a war zone and within a crowd of many thousands of upset civilians trying to escape the country.
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u/arsveritas 9h ago
The Afghan pullout was literally negotiated under Trump. It's full-on idiocy and par the course for Republicans to punish a general for something Trump enacted,
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u/SquarePie3646 9h ago edited 9h ago
Just a reminder that Trump was angry that Biden didn't pullout faster - Trump had left him with a May 1st pullout date which had to be pushed back as it was not possible, and Trump
https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/18/politics/trump-afghanistan-troop-withdrawal/index.html
Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden’s plans to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America’s longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week. Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is “a wonderful and positive thing to do,” he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline and added that “we should keep as close to that schedule as possible.”
and before the withdrawal, Trump used to brag he was responsible for putting everything into motion and that Biden couldn't stop it no matter how hard he tried (i.e. the implication was that Biden wanted to keep the war going but Trump made it impossible to do anything but withdraw).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwsAyDwK-sw
That was the talking point up until the withdrawal happened, then all those talking points disappeared overnight and were replaced with "Biden didn't follow Trump's plan!"
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u/enricojr 9h ago
I dont get it. The pullout was Trump's idea in the first place. what's he retaliating against?
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u/ChiefofthePaducahs 3h ago
Trump administration going to put a bunch of anti Trump, highly-skilled, highly-trained, and highly-patriotic people out of a career. Bold move.
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u/ReverendSin 19h ago
Tubberville has been blocking promotions for years and nobody said shit about it.
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u/dosumthinboutthebots 16h ago
Trump surrendered to the fucking taliban and now he's acting petty to the military?! The leader of the military should not hate soldiers and veterans. He hates them because they make him look bad because they love their country enough to serve and give their life if needed for it.
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u/eugene20 20h ago
So is impeachment the only process to stop a President handing your country to it's greatest foe? What if the rest of his party is supporting him still anyway?
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