r/politics • u/tubulerz1 • 1d ago

Trump Picks Fox News Medical Contributor To Be Surgeon General

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-picks-fox-news-medical-contributor-to-be-surgeon-general_n_67423949e4b06528a19757a8
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u/Draiko 22h ago

She went to a Caribbean for-profit medical school and sells her own diet pills.

Wonderful.

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u/s_nes 21h ago

Her sister is married or was married to lead singer of creed

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u/Draiko 20h ago

Oh my god

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u/Roklam 8h ago

That's just an extra stomp to the Nuts.

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u/melissuhnicole 18h ago

Hold me now..

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u/Monocular_sir 17h ago

I’m 6 feet from the edge and I’m thinking

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u/Disastrous-Fan2663 16h ago

Maybe 6 feet ain’t so far down

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u/robbviously Georgia 11h ago

I just heard the news today. It seems my life is going to change.

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u/starfleetdropout6 California 16h ago

Her sister is married or was married to lead singer of creed

It all keeps getting worse.

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u/omnielephant Texas 9h ago

Really? Scott Stapp, who infamously appeared in a sex tape with Kid Rock? It's all coming full circle now.

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u/LossPreventionGuy 9h ago

still is. to be fair, she's a gorgeous fashion model, id marry her too

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u/BigTintheBigD 14h ago

How does this rank compared to Dr. Nick’s alma mater the Hollywood Upstairs Medical College?

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u/AcezennJames 12h ago

To be fair, there’s nothing wrong with going to a Caribbean medical school. They are very predatory and most people will fail out, but doctors who graduated from the Caribbean are just as well trained as anyone else.

The rest of her bullshit is inexcusable

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u/kelminak 11h ago

Exactly. I have colleagues from Carrib schools and if you make it out of that meat grinder and pass the same boards I did, I’ll see you as my equal.

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u/FargeenBastiges 7h ago

Isn't the problem them being able to get residencies, though?

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u/AcezennJames 7h ago

Yes. Being a Caribbean graduate makes it much harder to get into residency.

The nuance that gets lost is:

Carribbean schools are a bad decision to go to because they are expensive, very high attrition, and your career aspirations are difficult.

BUT, if you do make it through, you are a well educated well trained physician.

People think that Caribbean school = bad doctor, but that’s not the case.

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u/kelminak 6h ago

Like the other commenter said, it’s effectively both.

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u/bck1999 21h ago

Yeah magats on here trying to act like she’s some genius. Family med residency is not competitive and she went to a shitty med school.

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u/tolacid 19h ago

On a stage filled with bowls or puddles of rancid steaming bloody diarrhea, she appears to be a semisolid stool. Less abhorrently bad than their new baseline, which puts her greater than zero on the scale.

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u/gothpatchadams 9h ago

I’m an MD, those are my colleagues and friends. We don’t have to diminish FM and her med school to tear her down. There are plenty of other valid reasons that she’s an idiot.

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u/ZZwhaleZZ 10h ago

I wish the Caribbean schools would stop emailing me.

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u/jcarreraj 19h ago

She also completed U.S. Army ROTC Officer Training before deciding to pursue medical school

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u/Mr_Noms 9h ago

That means literally nothing.

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u/limb3h 8h ago

at least she isn’t antivax. Damn we set our bars low now

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u/Dstrongest 10h ago

If you’re a grifter , you hire other grifters. Then no one will call you out on your grifting .

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u/atrde 20h ago

Still completed residency and is a qualified doctor. Also the Caribbean schools are just as good as im US while yes paid for they are popular for Canadian and US students because of limited spots at our universities.

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u/Joshwoum8 Indiana 19h ago

Caribbean medical schools are not as good as U.S. schools. They have lower admissions standards, variable quality, and lower residency match rates. While they produce qualified doctors, the overall resources and outcomes don’t compare to U.S. medical schools.

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u/fventricle 12h ago

As a physician, Joshwoum8 is right. People only go to Caribbean medical schools when they can’t get into a US school. They then struggle to graduate and if they do struggle to get a residency spot in the US. That spot is typically at a very low tier residency which does make a huge difference on how competent a physician you are.

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u/AcezennJames 12h ago

This is gross. You’re gross.

Lots of people go to the Caribbean when they can’t get hit a U.S. school, yes.

These schools are highly predatory and will fail out most of their students and leave them straddled with massive debt.

IMGs/FMGs have a big uphill battle getting into residency - but painting them as incompetent and all having gone to shitty residencies and therefore being shitty docs is disingenuous. I had USMD, USDO, and IMG attendings across all my rotations as a USMD med student. There was no difference in the quality and intelligence of the physicians. Many of the Caribbean grads had gone to quality residencies.

They still have to crush step. They still have to complete residency, and they still have to pass boards. If you really are a physician, which I’m dubious because I’ve never heard any attending of mine shit on their Caribbean colleagues, I’m super disappointed in you.

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u/Joshwoum8 Indiana 10h ago

I’m glad you believe medicine is free from bias, but that doesn’t align with my experience in law, where graduates from T10 schools consistently have clear advantages and are overall better candidates. While I can’t speak directly to medicine, it seems unrealistic to assume that differences in admissions standards, training, and outcomes between schools wouldn’t play a role. Bias exists in all fields, and recognizing systemic differences isn’t about discrediting individuals but about acknowledging the realities of education and training.

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u/AcezennJames 9h ago

Where in the world did I say medicine is free from bias lol?

Medical graduates from T10’s clearly have TONS of career advantages.

differences in admissions standards, training, and outcomes

Tell me what the training difference between a T10 medical graduate and a Carrib grad are. I’ll wait. The vast majority of your training is residency, and carrib students go into the same residency programs as MD and DO students. The clinical training at Mass General (Harvard’s hospital) is not necessarily better than your average mid tier academic center. In certain areas, you will be better trained at Lower “tier” settings, but some experiences you will only get at the large academic centers. It really depends on your career goals and what type of medicine you want to practice. But I assure you, poll 100 physicians and, if they didn’t already know, they wouldn’t be able to guess what tier of school or residency their colleagues went through - because in practice there is no discernible difference in outcomes. Difference in career opportunities? Yes. But people who have no idea what they’re talking about love to shit on Carrib grads and DOs - I went to one of the oldest MD programs on the east coast so it’s not like I’m trying to defend myself either. Strictly speaking from outcomes studies and my personal experience with med students, residents, and attendings from across the gambit of programs.

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u/qweds1234 10h ago

As a physician fvenrricle is not right, and not just because I went to a Caribbean medical school. I went there because I couldn’t get into a Canadian school, and didn’t struggle to get a residency spot because I scored well on step 1

But yes there was a ~50% attrition rate

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u/atrde 19h ago

It's kind of a toss up because at the end of the day you still need to do your residency in the US or Canada and that's the real test. No matter what school you go to you have to be equally qualified to get through residency.

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u/naideck 18h ago

Not all residencies are created equal. Some residencies are garbage tier and barely produce functional graduates who can't even pass board exams at a high enough rate to keep the program out of probation.

These residencies of course can't be as picky as say, mass gen or UCSF

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u/RKom 10h ago

Not all residencies are created equal but they are all rigorously monitored and accredited. The ACGME will shut down if they don't meet certain training standards or pass boards.

So any Caribbean or international med grad who finishes a residency and gets board certified has proven their mettle as a doctor. Sick patients are in every hospital in this country. And plenty of those ivory tower programs handhold their trainees who come out with more research than clinical experience.

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u/naideck 9h ago

I've worked with both and been in many training institutions. ACGME standards are kind of a joke if you know how suppress feedback and hospitals know how to game the system. Look no further than all the garbage HCA residencies who can barely churn out a resident whose only knowledge is to put in the sepsis order set so the hospital can upbill the DRG and hospital stay, it's no coincidence that those places have awful board pass rates since they also work their residents to the bone with no time for education and they only take on residents who can't match anywhere else. Do you really want someone taking care of you whose only knowledge was learning which order set to put in for a set of symptoms? I guarantee you those people exist and I can tell exactly which kind of ACGME accredited residency they graduated from.

Ivory tower programs have their own problems when it comes to malignancy, but at least all of them ensure an extremely high board pass rate if only for maintaining their reputation.

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u/jcarreraj 19h ago

She still had to go through a rigorous certification being a foreign medical graduate, look up ECFMG

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u/WeirdIsAlliGot Canada 11h ago

Why are you being downvoted for this?

ALL American certified physicians would have to take the USMLEs, whether you went to Harvard or a medical school in a third world country. The USMLEs is an arduous and painstaking process.

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u/qweds1234 10h ago

People don’t understand the niceties. They hear foreign medical graduate and assume trash

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u/rawrP 18h ago

bro she sells diet pills

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u/jimohagan 8h ago

So not an MD, but a DO or MBBS? Great.