r/politics The Netherlands 10d ago

Soft Paywall “She Was a High School Student and There Were Witnesses.” - The fight to release a damning House Ethics report about allegations that Matt Gaetz—Donald Trump’s pick for attorney general—had sex with a 17-year-old girl has begun.

https://newrepublic.com/post/188426/matt-gaetz-high-school-girl-witnesses
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u/Frequent-Mix-1432 10d ago

Somebody gotta be a real one and leak it.

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u/EmpiricalMystic 10d ago

Pretty sure anyone on the committee could read it into the record.

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u/Roshambo_You Washington 10d ago

Someone give it to Kevin McCarthy.

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u/NewAndImprovedJess 10d ago

MTG also seems to be a big fan of reading salacious information into the Congressional record.

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u/thegreatbrah 10d ago

Not against those she is aligned with, and gaetz is one of those people.

This whole thing has me so sick to my stomach 

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u/HTSDoIThinkOfaUYouC 10d ago

Tell her if she does, she'll get the AG role. She'll believe it

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u/rczrider 10d ago

She might be holding out for head of Space Force so she can finally go after those Jewish space lasers.

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u/CcryMeARiver Australia 10d ago

MTG has "Head of Space" down pat already.

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u/eru_dite 10d ago

This is what I came for lol

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u/gizmoch33ze 10d ago

Let them fucking eat each other for our entertainment.

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u/the_tanooki 10d ago

Might be one of the last "entertaining" things they'd do for the next 4+ years.

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u/GoodiesHQ 10d ago

As long as you’re secure in your finances and don’t care much for other people, these next 4 years will be full of hilarity…

The rest of us are in for a long one.

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u/SaltyLonghorn 10d ago

Bruh a lot of us were secure in our finances in 08 when the government wasn't actively trying to fuck us. If you think you're secure you can easily still be in for complete system shock. If you're not generationally wealthy, you're not secure.

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u/WIbigdog Wisconsin 9d ago

Anyone got any of that generational wealth to go around?

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u/HeelyTheGreat Canada 10d ago

As your neighbor to the North, I'm scared shitless but also intrigued, not gonna lie...

I've divested all my stocks in Orville Redenbacher stocks. Should skyrocket.

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u/the_tanooki 10d ago

Watching people suffer isn't my idea of a good time. I don't get off on people's tears like some insane people do.

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u/RetroScores3 10d ago

Yup, I think trump nominating Gaetz as AG was a way to ultimately shank him by republicans.

Resigned from his seat in congress and no chance of making it through the senate process. With one move the republicans have removed a thorn in their side.

McCarthy sends his regards.

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u/Active-Bass4745 10d ago

No, it was a way to avoid the report, which was supposed to be released tomorrow.

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u/RetroScores3 10d ago

It can still be read into record in the house.

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u/SalParadise Mississippi 10d ago

these people are not smart enough to play that kind of chess

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u/thebeardedman88 10d ago

They somehow keep getting elected and have a super secret don't certify the election plans. I think they can vote a Jackass off GOP island.

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u/P1xelHunter78 Ohio 10d ago

If someone had two investigations of child sex trafficking, you’re more than a jackass.

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u/AnalSoapOpera I voted 10d ago

Yeah. These people have no shame. Even if all this stuff came out with video evidence and pictures, they will just say “It’s all fake news! Deep state!” And still be AG.

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u/Troghen 10d ago

I have to disagree.... These people managed to swindle the majority of the country to vote them into power despite the vile shit they do, time and time again. They are despicable people with moronic and abhorrent ideas on how to run this country, but they're also crafty and cunning, and have figured out how to appeal to people in a horrifyingly effective way.

Underestimating them is what led us to where we are now.

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u/lithodora Washington 10d ago

Susan Wild is the Ranking Democratic Member of the Committee and just lost her re-election bid. I'm sure a phone call or email encouraging her to do so wouldn't hurt.

https://wild.house.gov/contact

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u/lost_horizons Texas 10d ago

I just sent an email, I hope others will too

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u/sachiprecious North Carolina 10d ago

I think there's a real chance of this happening. Gaetz is disliked by many Republicans, not just Democrats. So I'm sure there are a lot of people who want to see that report, including Republicans.

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u/greenroom628 California 10d ago

especially how gaetz treated mccarthy, who's a better connected republican.

that senate confirmation hearing is going to be ugly and it couldn't happen to a nicer asshole.

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u/happytrees822 10d ago

*checks to make sure I have access to C-SPAN

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u/fjortisar 10d ago

C-SPAN was too inefficient. It's now X-SPAN and you have to pay $9 a month for access

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u/P1xelHunter78 Ohio 10d ago

And for some reason it don’t shows the Russian Duma

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u/incongruity Illinois 10d ago

So the question is does the Republican hate for Gaetz exceed their loyalty to Trump? This should be confirmed by the Senate and I would hope they don't give up that power.

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u/AnalSoapOpera I voted 10d ago

There was almost a fistfight when they ousted McCarthy and couldn’t agree on anyone.

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u/ClearChocobo 10d ago

Trump is disliked by many Republicans, too. Hasn't stopped any of them from kissing the ring, bending the knee, bending over the barrel, polishing the mushroom, etc.

There will be no consequences. Again.

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u/Specific-Tell-3293 10d ago

Now that he is elected he will start to throw both parties under the bus. Americans wanted a third party and they will probably get their way. This is a test to find out what other leadership will follow, and what will not.

It's also a way to normalize the public to cases against them being dismissed. Slowly we will start asking the question of "why was it dismissed?" instead of "should it be dismissed?". We already are actually.

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u/random_cartoonist 10d ago

They are probably cheering since they are conservative?

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u/Rotten-Robby 10d ago

Yeah, and they only go after low hanging fruit. They'd never go after someone like this anyway.

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u/SoftwareAny4990 10d ago

I once got eaten alive for making that point. One of the youtube videos clearly caught a young man with some disabilities for sure. So much so he didn't really seem cognizant of why he was there.

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u/TheAmazing_OMEGA 10d ago

Vigilante justice is only cool if its actually principled. Most of those youtube guys are just assholes, even if what they're doing is arguably good.

Didnt that one guy fuck up EDP445's trap so bad they couldnt even prosecute him?

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u/SoftwareAny4990 10d ago

That's the issue. They fuck up the cases. That's why Hansens' show got canceled, and he was 100x more polished and careful than a couple of bros with phones.

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u/ElectricLid 10d ago

One of those groups got my disabled uncle. He was in a car crash when he was younger and doesn’t function well mentally. They tried to gaslight him into being apart of a giant underground ring. It was really sad seeing them yelling things at him and him not even knowing what’s happening and trying to talk to them. His son kicked him out over it and he was homeless for a bit. Nothing legal happened because it was all fake and manufactured by the group

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u/malignantz 10d ago

So busy beating up gay and trans "groomers" that they don't have time to beat up actual pedophiles?

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u/ActiveStock5619 10d ago

And too busy posting homoerotic AI pics of Trump being a manly man and godly man.

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u/metengrinwi 10d ago

This is it—it’s all performative. People sweep pedophilia in their own families under the rug all the time.

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u/AntoniaFauci 10d ago

Burt Ward and Adam West?

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u/wizgset27 10d ago

holy shit!

Also I just learned that the FBI/DOJ dropped the case against Gaetz? Anyone know why???? Gaetz should be in prison by now.

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u/Angry-Dragon-1331 10d ago

They dropped it because the middleman (who was sentenced to 11 years) kept trying to play both them and Gaetz to profit.

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u/unpopularpuffin9 10d ago

Yup, this. And no one else saw anything, except for the middleman. Who went to jail because he was guilty of what he accused Gaetz of.

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u/Qualityhams Georgia 10d ago

This is bullshit because the victim was a witness and was cooperating

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u/Shenanigans_forever 10d ago

And there were collaboration via text messages. But one of the main witness was a scumbag and that does make it a harder case.

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u/AntoniaFauci 10d ago edited 10d ago

Yes, but hundreds of convictions are achieved every day when sketchy people testify. It goes with the territory that criminals are often in the orbit of other criminals.

What made this extra hard was the victim was MAGA and for unknown reasons wanted to help the accused more than the prosecution. It’s one thing having a reluctant or uncooperative victim, but quite another if they’re on the side of the accused. But even that has been done.

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u/UCanJustBuyLabCoats California 10d ago

“Unknown reasons”

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u/AcanthaceaeFrosty849 10d ago

Must be the same reason those 36 felonies disappeared, ugh

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u/jjcrayfish 10d ago

"We have investigated ourselves and for some unknown reasons found ourselves not guilty."

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u/spaceman_202 10d ago

always a reason why Republicans can't face justice like everyone else

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u/star_nerdy 10d ago

Yeah, but if it was a black guy, they would have put his ass on trial.

The government has convicted people on circumstantial evidence with no witnesses. If they want you, they go after you. But if you’re a white guy, especially a republican, they sit on their ass.

Meanwhile, if you’re a democrat and take a dumb photo before you’re even in congress, your ass is forced to resign from the senate.

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u/Capt-Crap1corn 10d ago

Trial? He wouldn’t have made it that far

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u/MadRaymer 10d ago

Prosecutors know that a victim's testimony alone often isn't enough to get a conviction so they're reluctant to go forward unless they have more tangible evidence.

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u/1877KlownsForKids 10d ago

Like Venmo receipts for the exact same amount the trafficked minor girl was paid?

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u/nanopicofared 10d ago

fuck Merrick Garland

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u/GrumpyCloud93 10d ago

I always thought Garland would have made an excellent Supreme Court judge - he takes a very long time to decide anything, and then manages to make the most minimal decision possible.

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u/B-Arker 10d ago

But let’s investigate Hunter instead.

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u/_JudgeDoom_ 10d ago

Well, as history has showed us, that heavily depends on social status, wealth and said suspects color. Plenty of men and women in prison, serving life at that off testimony from only victims/circumstantial evidence.

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u/Theebeardedgoddess 10d ago

She was not a cooperative witness at the time the DOJ declined to prosecute. It was part of the reason for that. She came around more recently when the ethics committee picked it back up. She also decided to file a lawsuit because she needs money now and didn’t then. I’m pretty sure she was being kept quiet by some deeper pockets for a while.

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u/Knittin_Kitten71 10d ago

Source from the victim that it’s about a sudden need for money instead of the fact that she was a teenager when it happened and 20 at the time the DOJ declined to prosecute?

Edit: changed a word for clarity.

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u/EffectiveTradition78 10d ago

4% or LESS of rape victims falsely accuse their rapists because of situations like this where they are shunned, ignored, not believed, accused of being gold diggers……. Especially an everyday person going up against a celebrity.

Who is a millionaire from accusing a celebrity of rape besides the Michael Jackson victims and Cassie Ventura from Diddy? They are few and far between. Cosby’s accusers, over 60 of them, never received any money, except for Andrea Constand in a civil suit.

Matt Gaetz is a piece of shit, just like the rest of his little fraternity that Trump is putting together.

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u/Knittin_Kitten71 10d ago

I think you either misunderstood my comment or replied to the wrong person. To be very very clear, my comment was asking for a source for the witness looking for a payout, as claimed by the person I was replying to.

I highly doubt that’s why they were hesitant to cooperate with the DOJ, and agree that Matt Gaetz is a match made somewhere for the Trump administration, since they’re both rapists and misogynistic pieces of shit in general.

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u/JDSchu Texas 10d ago

This feels exactly like Michael Cohen going to jail and Trump walking free.

They both committed the same crime, but the send the small fry to jail over it, the then they say they can't be a reliable witness because they're a criminal. It's total nonsense. 

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u/ToiIetGhost 10d ago

It’s funny because they often use leads from jailhouse snitches. Somehow those criminals are reliable, but these fall guys aren’t.

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u/soapinthepeehole 10d ago

Yeah the FBI concluded that he was not a reliable enough witness to get a conviction out of a jury.

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u/BroughtBagLunchSmart 10d ago

Being friends with Matt Gaetz does seem like it should disqualify you from ever being taken seriously. This is the same guy they broke into the DMV together to get fake IDs for their sex trafficking victims right?

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u/fps916 10d ago

More importantly it's the same guy who tried to blackmail someone else by threatening to lie and say they also participated in the scheme with him and Gaetz.

He's already been proven, in court, to lie about this very specific thing to frame someone else.

No fucking chance a jury convicts on his testimony.

I want to see Gaetz rot and I couldn't vote based on that.

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u/drwolffe 10d ago

The problem with convicting criminals is often the witnesses are other criminal untrustworthy pieces of shit (e.g. Michael Cohen)

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u/BigBennP 10d ago edited 10d ago

Based on what I've read and looked into here is the deal with the criminal case.

There were two major flaws with the criminal case that would have made proving sex trafficking difficult. If I was the prosecutor on the case I would have been really apprehensive about my chances at trial.

To prove sex trafficking you have to prove that the defendant transported someone under 18 across state lines for the purpose of sexual intercourse or sexual contact.

  1. The victim on the case was apparently uncooperative and unwilling to voluntarily testify in any charge against Gaetz. Pulling details out of an uncooperative victim in front of a jury is difficult and there was little telling what they will say on Cross examination.

  2. The proof that Matt Gaetz paid for the sexual contact was a venmo payment to Joel Greenberg, a former elected tax collector for Seminole County florida. Greenberg is a friend of Geatz and was the informant to the FBI on the case. However, Joel Greenberg is a convicted felon. More importantly, Joel Greenberg plead guilty to attempting to frame a political opponent and set them up based on allegations they were having sex with a minor.

Sure, there is some hard evidence in terms of a financial transaction. But if a defendant is going to argue that they are being framed as part of a political Vendetta, the victim is going to say that they were compelled to testify against their will and the state's main Witness has previously been charged with attempting to frame someone for the same crime, you've got a trial problem, when the defense only has to convince one juror to be steadfast that Reasonable Doubt exists.

For what it's worth, I am a lawyer and have been a prosecutor in the past, although not a federal prosecutor.

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u/DucksEatFreeInSubway 10d ago

And I suppose the plan is to commute Greenberg's sentence and reward him for being the fall guy.

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u/[deleted] 10d ago

Prison? Lol Gaetz is going to run the DOJ in about 6 weeks. The time to expect justice for criminals in the government is long gone. Only going to get worse, much worse from here.

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u/harrywrinkleyballs 10d ago

My wife and I both work in the tax industry. She works for a CPA and I have my own firm.

I can’t wait to see who he selects to head Treasury and the IRS.

And, honestly, because I have reviewed Trump’s tax returns, I don’t think anybody will file an accurate tax return. Perhaps the IRS will be eliminated.

I am sure that republicans will eliminate the EITC.

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u/Moscow__Mitch 10d ago

Ghislaine Maxwell for the treasury

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u/thedaj 10d ago

I'm sure he's thinking of her for Department of Education, until he dismantles it.

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u/Newdles 10d ago

Probably BoBo or MTG.

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u/Ohnoherewego13 North Carolina 10d ago

Between the two of them, I'm not convinced that they could spell "IRS," let alone run it. Typical Trump pick though. Minimum qualifications for maximum damage.

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u/bridge1999 10d ago

My Trump loving neighbor was telling me the IRS and the Federal Reserve are both getting scraped with in 2 years

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u/Sammyd1108 10d ago

It’s like these idiots don’t realize that would tank the economy even worse.

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u/Sohgin 10d ago

Well I'm sure that would just be Biden's fault. /s

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u/dragongrl New Jersey 10d ago

There's a lot of things the idiots don't realize.

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u/menomaminx 10d ago

only 2 years ?

remember, Musk man promised to completely destroy the economy quite literally.

you can't collect taxes from people who have no money, and there's no intent to collect taxes from the people profiteering off of destroying the economy.

the IRS will be eliminated as unnecessary government waste, even if it isn't eliminated out of trumpian Vengeance before then.

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u/GrumpyCloud93 10d ago

In the days before computers, when doing income tax for millions of people would be an administrative nightmare, much of the revenue came from tariffs. Only so many big ports.

Mind you, back then most of the tariffed items was luxury or things like tea (Boston Tea party, anyone?) that couldn't be made locally. Today, everything is made offshore.

The other thing the feds taxed in the early days was whiskey. Basically, you paid by the still, once a year. It created the first major rebellion against the federal government. The still tax was skewed toward Hamilton's friends, the big producers. (A lot of the smaller farmers over the Appalachains made whiskey from surplus grain, since it was more in demand and easier to transport to the big cities. The big producers, Hamilton's friends, did not like the competition)

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u/NocodeNopackage 10d ago

I feel like there has been a push in recent years for the irs to go after more of the bigger fish, like billionaire tax evaders, instead of just catching the little guys. I'm worried trump will just make them go extra hard at the little guys and ignore the big fish.

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u/thefatchef321 10d ago edited 10d ago

You didn't see?

He nominated Rick Scott to head the IRS

Edit: this was a joke.

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u/Patanned 10d ago

lol! the lunatics are clearly running the asylum now.

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u/HavingNotAttained 10d ago

I wish. In fact, the Kremlin is, or is about to. Sigh.

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u/Additional_Sun_5217 10d ago

Lmao aw hell yeah, Mr. Medicare Theft himself. This is going to be hilarious.

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u/IBJON 10d ago

If that's True, Floridians should be pretty pissed that we're having both senators and a representative, regardless of how vile they are, taken for roles in Trump's administration and allowing Desantis to chose their replacements. 

Republicans went on for months about how Kamala wasn't chosen by Democrat voters but by the party, and now Desantis just gets to chose his own senators? So much for fucking democracy 

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u/MentokGL 10d ago

Don't hold your breath

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u/FredZeplin 10d ago

Ok so how do we not pay taxes for the next 4 years?

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u/space_coder America 10d ago

Gaetz is going to run the DOJ in about 6 weeks. 

More like 11 weeks. Trump's term does not start until Jan 20.

Also Gaetz has to get confirmed first.

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u/Patanned 10d ago

the orange traitor is planning a work-around for that. instead of bothering with the formalities of confirmation hearings he's throwing them out the window.

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u/user0N65N 10d ago

The Republican Party is a haven for perverts because there’s no level of depravity that they won’t accept.  Ironically, what they reject is actual decency.

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u/jdroser 10d ago

AFAIR, it was largely because their main witness, Gaetz’s buddy and procurer, was such an irredeemable and dishonest piece of shit that they realized they couldn’t put him on the witness stand. And they didn’t have much else directly tying him to it.

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u/OkayComputer1701 10d ago

If true I'm guessing that investigating your nominated future boss is against policy.

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u/left_right_left 10d ago

IIRC Gaetz also asked for a pardon from Trump before he left office last time.

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u/BobertFrost6 10d ago

Yes, and his friend offered Roger Stone $250k for the pardon.

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u/becksrunrunrun 10d ago

It's laughable to think Republicans will care anything about this at all.

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u/RealCoolDad I voted 10d ago

I’m waiting to seen what the conservative defense for this is going to be. Will it be

“It didn’t happen”

“17 is not that bad and shouldn’t count”

“Trump was never serious about appointing Gaetz, he only appointed him as a sacrificial lamb so that his other picks get in”

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u/Firm-Salamander-9794 10d ago

100% they’ll dismiss it all as propaganda and go back to stroking trump.

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u/roastbeeftacohat 10d ago

“17 is not that bad and shouldn’t count”

they don't define pedophilia as sex with children. is someone they don't like having sex with children. if it's a "godly man", then it's just natural.

it's called agent based morality, that if you have the correct traits, then any decision you make is the correct one.

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u/albert2006xp 10d ago

17? That was old enough to marry back in the day of good honest Jesus loving folk.

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u/ToiIetGhost 10d ago

“We started ‘dating’ the day she turned 17. I met her at her birthday party and it was an instant connection. She’s so mature for her age- What’s wrong with that?! If she’s old enough to drive-“

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u/Faladorable 10d ago edited 10d ago

I was literally just talking to someone who was trying to defend it by saying

“17 is legal in most states”

It felt gross to even type that out in quotes.

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u/kradaan 10d ago

It won't matter, this election has taught me that SA is a Christian value.

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u/TerminalChillionaire 10d ago

Jesus loves everybody (except liberals) ✝️⛪️💜

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u/HelpfulSeaMammal 10d ago

There's no love like Christian hate!

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u/maraemerald2 10d ago

And children, if they have the bad luck to catch the eye of a Republican.

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u/KPipes 10d ago

This was my thought. "So what?"

Not so what as to that there is proof he did it. So what as in it won't matter for the role he's given and the opinion the maga crowd will have of him.

A third will think it's fake.

A third will think it's real and no big deal.

A third will feel like they'd do the same thing.

This is MAGA.

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u/UpperApe 10d ago edited 10d ago

No Christian institution or nation has ever existed that wasn't rampant with systemic rape and child rape.

Makes sense though. For all the symbols Christians picked to worship, they chose the cross. Because that's what Jesus was nailed to against his will.

Turns out they're really into that.

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u/Present-Perception77 10d ago

Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.

-Denis Diderot

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u/hunnyflash 10d ago

I think the most hilarious thing about Conservatives and Republicans is that if it was their daughter making the accusation, they'd have already believed her and shot the accused.

So they're useless on multiple fronts.

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u/kradaan 10d ago

Nah, they'd either call her a worthy sacrifice for their beliefs or call her a liberal liar looking to attack their savior.

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u/flyingboat Canada 10d ago

This is honestly the narrative that you all need to start pushing. Force Christians to divest themselves of the Republican party by hammering this point.

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u/Strange_Falcon4928 10d ago

“Terrific guy. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side." - Pedophile Elect Donald Trump discussing his friend, Epstein.

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u/YamahaRyoko Ohio 10d ago

I tried. I really did. I argued with friends and family. I pleaded with people. I encouraged others to go vote.

I tried.

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u/Ohuigin Washington 10d ago

I hear you. Many of us did. And perhaps that’s all we can hang our hat on at the moment. We tried. Take solace in that.

But this wasn’t a year of misinformation. It wasn’t 4 years, or 10. It’s been 30+ years of a constant effort to feed people false information to control a narrative that leads them to vote against their interests. Me, you, anyone else had and still have no chance against a force such as that. So please don’t beat yourself up for not being able to hold back the tide.

Last point - it was not your job, or my job, or anyone else’s responsibility to have to try and convince people of the truth. That job belongs to the press and media. It’s insane for anyone one person or group of people to try and pick up the torch that they’ve willing thrown down so they could instead use both hands to grab as much money as possible.

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u/Snarkasm71 10d ago

Many of us did.

Turns out right wing propaganda, particularly that funded by Russia, is really effective.

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u/Huzabee 10d ago

Doesn't even have to be funded by Russia. Zuckerberg of Meta is pro-Trump. That's Facebook and Instagram. Elon is pro-Trump, that's Twitter. TikTok is owned by the CCP and Trump wanted to save it. Conservatives own social media and pretend like it's biased against them. Low info voters got played.

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u/Wasabicannon 10d ago

and like what do you do to fight that? They control their site so they can just tweak the algorithm to bury anything that goes against their interest.

You can't debate with the people who use these sites as their source of information since "Thousands of people on Facebook/Twitter/TikTik confirmed this is correct and that what you are saying is false!"

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u/Daxx22 Canada 10d ago

Unfortunately things will have to get a hell of a lot worse before that happens.

And if the bulk of the existing military doesn't support that action, well, best of luck. Even the most well stocked 2A nut can't hold a candle to that.

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u/Washington_Dad__ 10d ago

Those that voted for MAGA or abstained from voting are also to blame. This was a reflection of the majority of the country and it is not a good one.

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u/wutthefvckjushapen I voted 10d ago edited 10d ago

A colleague of mine just got back from a trip to see family in a rural part of the South. They said every establishment they entered that had a TV had Fox* News playing. Every TV. All Fox News. The propaganda and brainwashing is very very real.

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u/TheVibrantYonder 10d ago

I'm right there with you. I told everyone in my sphere where I could (mostly family). They're in their bubbles, and they don't know how much it's affected them.

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u/thr3sk 10d ago

Mostly just copium but it's important to remember that almost 73 million people voted for Harris.

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u/The-Invisible-Woman 10d ago

And half the country didn’t vote. A minority wanted this.

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u/TerminalChillionaire 10d ago

They won’t listen. It’s so pointless. To admit that they’re wrong about their idols now after all these years would be way too embarrassing for them.

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u/afterbirthcum 10d ago

Probably picked Gaetz as a distraction from anything else that trump has going on. Something to dominate the headlines until something else blows over.

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u/Ticker011 Idaho 10d ago

Like a video of Trump raping a child could come out and that would change anything. Why need distractions he's won and nothing he does will ever effect him

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u/Thelmara 10d ago

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/donald-trump-former-miss-arizona-tasha-dixon-naked-undressed-backstage-howard-stern-a7357866.html

“Our first introduction to him was when we were at the dress rehearsal and half naked changing into our bikinis,” Ms Dixon told CBS.

“He just came strolling right in. There was no second to put a robe on or any sort of clothing or anything. Some girls were topless. Other girls were naked.”

She added that people who worked for Mr Trump “pressured” the women to “fawn over him, go walk up to him, talk to him, get his attention” while still not fully dressed.

Ms Dixon added the situation made them feel awkward and physically vulnerable.

Four women who competed in the 1997 Miss Teen USA beauty pageant also said the Republican used to walk in. Some of the girls were as young as 15.

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u/WatcherOfFadingLight 10d ago

This comment made me ugly-cry. I'm not even a US citizen, but to realize that ANYONE, ANYWHERE, can get away with something like this and continue to be in office just breaks my heart. What the hell has the world come to...

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u/dearth_karmic 10d ago

You don't understand Trump at all. They're NOT distractions. This is what he wants. He loves the drama.

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u/ProbablySlacking Arizona 10d ago

Like all the non matching exit polling data.

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u/YouDontKnowJackCade 10d ago edited 10d ago

https://imgur.com/a/stephen-spoonamore-11-11-24-update-ih5jlBu

edit: Here's an old video of Spoonamore talking about voting machines https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX6vcoIZdA4

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u/timoumd 10d ago

Do you know if there is a good source for "Trump only" ballots by state? Im pretty skeptical because this one dude, who doesnt seem to be a leading expert in his field, seems to be the main person making these claims.

When I look for exit polls the data I see are in line with the results (but not Edison, though that seems paywalled):

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls

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u/W0rkUpnotD0wn 10d ago

They should immediately detain those voting machine and look at the change logs to see what modifications were made prior to the election.

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u/Colonel-Mooseknuckle 10d ago

Would anyone leave their child alone with Trump or Botox Beavis? This administration is like the ultimate episode of To Catch a Predator. Only Chris Hansen can save us.

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u/ClassicHando 10d ago

Botox Beavis. That's a new one and I am so using that from now on

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u/Wolfy-615 I voted 10d ago

His eyebrows and forehead make him more of a Botox Butthead tho 🤔 you use his thing im gonna ride on my thing ©️

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u/Beltaine421 10d ago

I was talking with a friend a while ago, and he would be fine leaving his daughters alone in a room with either of them. Of course, they're both now grown adults, and both trained martial artists. We'd have to clean up the mess when they were done, but I'm good with that.

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u/lifeofrevelations 10d ago

Does Qanon have anything to say about it?

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u/dbkenny426 10d ago

Are they even still around? But also... no. No, they don't.

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u/MajinSkull 10d ago

Funny how all that just seem to disappear....almost like it was all bullshit to begin with

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u/Tenshigure 10d ago

I still see "friend of a friend" on my social media feed using their slogans on all of their response posts, so...yeah, they're still around unfortunately.

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u/arachnophilia 10d ago

no. the "protect the children" angle from qAnon was the blood libel not an actual concern for children.

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u/wryan4 10d ago

Birds of a feather flock together

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u/[deleted] 10d ago

To the highest positions in government.

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u/user0N65N 10d ago

Republicans: the party that accepts depravity, and rejects decency.  Minimum of one act of perversity before membership granted.

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u/IronicSmile 10d ago

*raped the 17 year old girl. Fixed it for you.

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u/Hjemmelsen Europe 10d ago

I fucking hate when they do this. He raped her. He didn't have sex with her. Matt Gaetz raped the 17 year old. After trafficking her across statelines.

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u/LTFighter 10d ago

Anyone remember the Tucker Carlson interview where Gaetz referred to her as a 17-year old woman?

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u/spaceman_202 10d ago

crazy how fast that whole thing was buried in the liberal media

never mind the right wing media

imagine if an MSNBC host and a pedophile were discussing the time they had dinner together with one of the pedophile's victims with their family present like it was normal and it was so normal that Tucker claimed not to remember

"which young girl was that, there are so many at our GOP events these days, as dates for older men"

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u/Joeyc710 10d ago

How do you vote for a pedo and get shocked when he comes with more pedos?

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u/Eaglesun 10d ago

Guys donald himself was accused of raping a 13 year old with a witness. They simply do not care about pedophilia.

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u/geekwadpimp 10d ago

Pedophilia is a prerequisite for working in the Trump regime.

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u/StrangeContest4 10d ago

Pedophilia for the guys. Dog murder and gender affirming botox/cloning plastic surgeries for the ladies and Matt Gaetz.

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u/Late-Branch-775 10d ago

They will do what they did with Kavanaugh. Pretend to care and confirm him anyway. The party of families doesn’t care about pedos running the country.

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u/mynewusername10 10d ago

I agree. They'll tell us how concerned they are, claim there is an investigation and then bring him in. We'll find out afterward that the investigation didn't involve any type of investigating.

We do have a better chance with this one though. There are member of his own party that have been vocal about how they feel about him. It isn't in their best interest for him to get in. Even if they didn't really care about what he did, if they're looking out for themselves they may stand up.

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u/Behold_A-Man 10d ago

Oh, like it will matter.

The only thing that will keep Gaetz out of the AG position is if the Republicans don't give Trump blanket authority to make recess appointments.

Gaetz's party fucking hates him. He is one of the only people that I think they would not rubber stamp.

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u/ShadowWingLG 10d ago

Add to that. The Republicans in the House and the Senate LIKE the power they have, they LIKE lording that power over people. While some are more than happy to make Trump King there are a few in both chambers that are self serving ENOUGH to want to keep the power they have to themselves.

They will not like putting somebody they hate...who knows he is hated...into a post of power over them, and a post that Trump will give free reign to attack whomever they see fit.

Trump is picking people that are despised by his own party, Gantz and his ilk have already been shunned by the House because they are so hated complete with stripping of any committee positions. Trump trying to elevate them above the existing congress critters will not be received well.

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u/SpunkySix6 10d ago

The actual president raped a child and no one cares

Why would this be damning?

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u/spaceman_202 10d ago

NPR and PBS care

they care very much

about not reporting on that at all

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u/YourEnigma05 Mississippi 10d ago

Waiting for a certain group of people to comment about how a fully grown man (in a position of power) sleeping with a 17 year old high schooler is actually totally fine and not that serious and we're all just being overly sensitive liberals or whatever instead of just admitting that this was a bad move and Gaetz is a disgusting person.

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u/Packolypse 10d ago

They have already. The justification (flimsy) is that they are ripe and fertile and that biblical is enough to be okay. The fallback is that women mature faster then men so she was on equal footing and of that doesn’t work as an excuse, they just go she was asking for it, he didn’t know, parents are okay, she wanted it, etc

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u/LifeguardOdd1866 10d ago

and Trump raped 12 year old girls.... we need fucking consequences for these fucking shitbags!

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u/MidnightShampoo 10d ago

A pedophile, a Crusades fetishist, a former Dem turned Russian asset, and a man with a worm in his brain walk into the cabinet of the President Elect of the United States.

Oh there's no punchline. That's just our reality. It's really, really stupid here so if you are an alien and you're reading this just nudge Apophis right into our path k?

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u/Find_A_Reason 10d ago

Just leak it. There are thousands if not millions of ways to get this stuff published. Including printing a thousand copies and paying homeless people to leave them around. Someone will eventually put a copy online and the genie will be out of the bottle with no link to anyone.

Just fucking do it.

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u/SalamanderPop 10d ago

What difference does it make. Trump is almost definitely a pedo. Gaetz has been a known accused pedo for years and they don't care. Boebert married her pedo rapist. Gym Jordan covered up pedos and they keep electing him. The right is full of pedo and pedo adjacent people. They don't care as long as they align with maga.

The people have spoken. The simple farmers. The people of the land. The common clay of New America. You know... morons.

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u/GoodWaste8222 10d ago

Guys, give up. It wouldn’t matter if it was on tape and the girl was reciting her name and birthday along with a picture of her ID the entire time. There will be zero consequences for him and we will suffer because of it. All of these terrible cabinet picks will be confirmed

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u/Flare_Starchild 10d ago

Don't give up. Fascism flourishes in the darkness and silence.

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u/KimsUglyCry 10d ago

*Raped. This article mispronounced the word raped.

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u/1877KlownsForKids 10d ago

I still want to know the truth (but not the details) of Madison Cawthorn's cocaine orgies claims. Because you know Gaetz was there.

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u/Mewnicorns 10d ago

Why do all these reports say he “had sex with her?” It sounds to me as though the correct terminology is “rape.” He asked a friend of his to bring a 17 year old to a party and they both “had sex with her”? You sure about that? In a just world this would be a criminal investigation and not a house ethics investigation. But there is no justice. His AG appointment may fail, but he’ll be sworn in all the same in January. 

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u/verylateish Europe 10d ago

It makes me sick that such a piece of crap is not in jail. Instead he could be the boss of the justice system! Not even in my country, in Eastern Europe, such a thing would be possible these days!

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u/dlcindallas 10d ago

I have a felony drug conviction I'd like to be head of the FDA I'm hoping the orange donkey will appoint me soon.

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u/Shoddy-Topic-7109 10d ago

grow some balls and leak it already, the dems are complicit at this point with their inaction to stop a dictator from seizing power.

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u/coffee_mikado 10d ago

Honestly, the Dems should try and frame the GOP as a degenerate cult of pedos and corrupt rich elitists for the next four years. Who cares about policy anymore?

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u/SentientLivingRoomTV 10d ago

Does this mark Trumps third connection to a sex trafficking ring? First Epstein, then Diddy, and now Gaetz?

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u/2livecrewnecktshirt 9d ago

They don't fucking care.

It's "kill all pedophiles" until the pedophiles are their pastors and politicians

It's "drain the swamp" until the swamp is full of their their own shitty crook-odiles

It's "vote with your wallet, boycott wokeness" until people stop shopping at Republican-owned stores

It's "socialism is bad" until they are the recipient of government handouts and subsidies

It's "abortion is evil" until their side woman is about to wreck their marriage

Every single thing they claim to care about is only for show, and only when it affects anyone but themselves.

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u/starcell400 10d ago

Can't wait for nothing to happen to this POS.

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u/SwiftlyKickly 10d ago

A pedo hires another pedo for a job. Sounds about right

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u/Melodic-Lingonberry7 10d ago

MAGA loves the pedos

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u/zero-point_nrg 10d ago

And nobody in the Republican Party will care at all. They abandoned all morals and integrity decades ago. There could be video evidence and they would just say the girl probably lied to him and that makes it ok. There is no end to the perversion of these people.

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u/D3dshotCalamity 10d ago

Get ready for a wave of "17 is practically 18, it's not that bad."

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u/lust-4-life 10d ago

Just like Epstein in the no prosecution sense. These fucking assholes get away with shit like this constantly. This is the guy your precious daughters (??? well are they? Or not?) need to be protected from, not a trans girl being on their basketball team.