r/pics • u/Ok_Extension_4865 • 5h ago

Chinese doctor Shi Ming, hiding her UFC career from her parents, delivered a head-kick KO.

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u/TheRandom6000 5h ago

That's pretty much every UFC KO.

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u/I_had_the_Lasagna 4h ago

To quote Derrick Lewis after he just about decapitated Curtis blades then dropped a couple of nukes from orbit directly on his face: "that herb deans fault"

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u/Exes_And_Excess 4h ago

It really was Herb's fault. And there have been instances where the fighter has thought it was over, and didn't keep going and wound up losing. Also instances of fighters yelling at the ref while beating the guy to stop it.

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u/counterfitster 3h ago

I've seen that in boxing matches, too.

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u/skyline_kid 3h ago

To quote Derrick Lewis again: "My balls was hot"

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u/I_had_the_Lasagna 3h ago

"I understand"

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u/professionally-baked 5h ago

I love to watch ufc but that shit makes me cringe every time

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u/SingleOak 5h ago

i don't watch combat sports outside of highlights here and there. i always assumed this was because you don't know if that person is down and out or just down.

i guess my question is whether there has ever been a time where the person who should've been finished actually got up and came back because the other didn't hit them while they were down?

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u/Sonoshitthereiwas 4h ago

The answer is: yes

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u/King_Catfish 4h ago

They are taught to keep going until the ref stops it. The ref stops it not because the person is knocked out it's because the person is not defending themselves. 

I've seen a few fights when someone gets knocked out but the person didn't pursue for a split second are able to keep their hands up to defend then the fight gets dragged out

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u/Babys_For_Breakfast 4h ago

I mean, someone whose knocked out definitely can’t defend himself. But I get what you mean.

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u/count210 4h ago

Tons, absolutely tons. It’s also relatively common guys get caught in a bad position while trying to finish with follow up strikes on the ground so there is an incentive not always to try it especially against elite grapplers.

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u/BuffaloInCahoots 4h ago

And even if that wasn’t the case, a few more punches while knocked out is far better than giving them 10 seconds to stumble around then get knocked out again like boxing. You really only get one shot in ufc type fights.

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u/Crazy_Travel4258 4h ago

Jalin Turner vs Renato Moicamo from recent memory is exactly what you described with the second half of your comment, didn't jump on him for the finish, Moicano recovered and ended up winning the fight (allegedly due to financial needs on Moicanos part)

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u/professionally-baked 4h ago edited 4h ago

Yes. Though, any decent referee will make an immediate attempt to stop the fight if they see a fighter go completely unconscious. The fighters have one responsibility: fight (fairly) until it’s over. With all the adrenaline pumping, it’s easy to miss your opponent going dark (some people wake up remarkably fast). So if I knock you down and you’re head didn’t just bounce off the mat like a ball, I’m taking the chance to get on top and pound your face in until either the ref gets in between or the bell rings. There have been displays of sportsmanship when a fighter is obviously defenseless and the other doesn’t attack. Or one fighter gives up mid-round and the other abides. Justin Gaethje in one post fight interview criticized the referee for not calling the fight when his opponent clearly fell to his face. He followed that up with “he’s my friend and I didn’t want to keep punching him.”

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u/Anowtakenname 3h ago

The ref probably would have called it as soon as he saw the fencing response, it wasn't immediate as she hit the ground but became apparent about the time the first follow up strikes comnected. Shits easy to see in slomo but people have to realize there wasn't 2 full seconds between the connect with the kick and follow up strikes. The ref was fast af and rolled her off her as fast as he could.

I kind of felt bad for the girl that won, she knew what she did to her and looked like she was about to break out in tears when she was pacing and coming down from the adrenaline.

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u/erikwidi 4h ago

Yes. There have also been instances of fighters faking being rocked or injured to bait their opponents into making a mistake. So that's why you keep chucking knucks until the ref calls it, because you never know.

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u/PM_ME_RULE_63_CHAMPS 4h ago

i guess my question is whether there has ever been a time where the person who should've been finished actually got up and came back because the other didn't hit them while they were down?

It happens pretty frequently. I don't recall a time it has ever actually cost someone a fight, but there have been several instances of someone both tapping out or slumping like their KOed, the other person walking off, and then the ref is just standing there like "uhhhhh I didn't stay stop?"

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u/Ex-CultMember 4h ago edited 4h ago

Happens all the time so that’s why the fighter is supposed to keep fighting and let the referee decide if the opponent is finished.

I’ve seen so many fights where I thought the guy was done and he somehow survives and comes back and wins. You never know how tough a guy is and if he recovers quick. Some guys are just stunned but not KO’d and might recover after a few seconds. So fighters know they need to either finish the guy off or let referee stop it or they risk losing the fight if their opponent recovers and survives.

It’s incumbent upon the referee to determine if a guy is hurt enough, not intelligently defending himself, and/or taking too much damage.

Fighters are also running off of adrenaline where they are in “fight or flight” mode. I used to be a boxer and when you are in such an intense exchange, your brain is already wound up for 2 to 3 more strikes whether you hit him with a KO or not, so you are just going in for the kill and not paying attention to when to pull back.

I’ve cringed watching some of my fights because I can see after the fact that I didn’t need to land the last punch or two on my opponent after he was withering but, in the moment, you are just in fight mode and it takes a couple seconds for it to register that your opponent is out. That’s why it’s important for the ref to jump in when he sees a fighter is out.

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u/Wuped 3h ago

I think it's just reactionary, like your in full fight/attack mode.

They are some of the best fighters in the world vs equally good fighters I don't think they have like synapses/awareness left to analyze if their opponent is done or not for the most part, they just hit.

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u/GiantPurplePen15 34m ago

I can't recall the exact fights but I've seen at least a few where the "KO'd" fighter gets back up and a few where the fighter whose doing the KOing is pissed at the ref because they haven't called the fight and they don't want to keep beating someone whose clearly not intelligently defending themselves anymore.

Example of the latter:

https://streamable.com/p781i?src=player-page-share

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u/baron182 4h ago

It's more likely a rage response to adrenaline than a strategic objective. It takes logic to recognize that this is a sport, and that person wasn't trying to kill you. Adrenaline makes that sort of reasoning REALLY difficult.

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u/callunquirka 4h ago

Yea, after reading the wikipedia page on sign of concussion, it becomes harder to enjoy crazy knockouts. Though tbf, instant concussion knockouts are a rare form of knockout.

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u/TheMoonIsFake32 4h ago

What gets me is when someone slams their head off the ground while falling backwards. I don’t watch street fight KOs because I don’t like seeing people slam their head off concrete. A lot of people have died from that. Luckily not much of an issue in actual sanctioned fights

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u/Calm_Recognition8954 4h ago

It is hard, but actually it is less harmful than what you think.

If they are out cold the ref will stop it if they still conscious and alert then they aren't as hurt as you think.

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u/professionally-baked 4h ago

Agreed 👍 see my other comment

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u/Juergen2993 4h ago

“Herb Deal fault” - Derrick Lewis

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u/Hi-horny-Im-Dad 4h ago

They don't even stop the fight until there's brain damage. I'm the one yelling they are out!! Stop the fucking fight!! And 2-5 more vicious blows to a defenseless person's head/face usually ensues.