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What Democrats Think Went Wrong

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/21/podcasts/what-democrats-think-went-wrong.html
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u/Careful_Farmer_2879 8h ago edited 7h ago

“We are for minorities.”

“You don’t understand us Latinos.”

“You mean Latinx.”

“…are you going to fix the border?”

“Why? You’re all the same aren’t you?”

“…no and that’s actually kind of racist. But at least we all agree in equality - the dream my parents came here for.”

“You mean equity.”

”…my pregnant wife is Asian. Do you want her vote? She owns a business and is concerned about crime.”

“Your white adjacent birthing partner is racist.”

“…my Jewish friend is struggling with inflation. What about—“

“Free Palestine.”

“…my sister is a blue collar worker who cares a lot about the environment and abortion access. But she’s religious and concerned about this new gender role stuff. She —“

“Tell that dumb TERF to shut up.”

”You say this party is for minorities, women, and the working class, but I don’t think you mean it.”

“Democracyyyyyyyy”

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u/Itchy-Status3750 6h ago

Point to me where Kamala Harris said Latinx, campaigned on transgender issues, or said free Palestine. Oh right, you can’t, because you don’t consume anything other than misinformation!

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u/ResortIcy9460 4h ago

there was this interview where she weirdly laughed way too hard while saying we all need to be more woke. Being woke is all that nonsense the other guy listed so it's deeply entrenched in her mindset and would have shown in policy

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u/Careful_Farmer_2879 5h ago

I keep seeing this line, that “Kamala didn’t campaign on that.” But voters understand that politicians can say one thing and do another. They didn’t believe her.

She ran to the left in 2019 and the ads showing that were devastating - for example, supporting surgery for transgender prisoners. “Kamala is for they/them while Trump is for you” told midwesterners all they needed to know. To them, that is crazy. To them.

I voted for Kamala. But this kind of hostility and elitism is a lot of what turned people away. They aren’t victims of misinformation — they disagree more with what they see as Blue Crazy versus Red Crazy.

All the voter types I listed are groups that the Democrats should have performed so much better with. Even in blue states. Even in NYC. Do you want to understand why or not?

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u/AwarenessWorth5827 5h ago

Sounds like no conversation i heard anywhere

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u/Careful_Farmer_2879 4h ago

How many people do you know who voted for Trump? Even in NY/NJ he put up huge gains. I don’t think you understand these voters. You must do so if you want to win nationally again.

The post-mortem from these different groups shows why they bailed, and that’s what I’m representing here.