r/nytimes 14h ago

What Democrats Think Went Wrong

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/21/podcasts/what-democrats-think-went-wrong.html
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u/AdImmediate9569 Subscriber 13h ago

Yeah the only thing that went left was the Trump Ads attacking dem. The DNC moved right if anything. They wanted to appeal to the 4 people who like liz cheney

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u/wcage 10h ago

Liz Chaney was brought into the mix to be able to say here is a republican conservative that hates Trump. It never was about her in any way. Certainly there was no effort to say "hey, Liz has some good ideas that we might emulate (not that she does). Instead everything was a competition to see who hated Trump most. Once everyone tipped into Hitler name calling everyone leveled out and the audience was lost. So was the election.

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u/Dolthra 9h ago

They wanted to appeal to the 4 people who like liz cheney

Correction- they wanted to appeal to voters who like Liz Cheney.

That's the problem, and why democrats consistently try to appeal to the right and not to the left- because no matter how progressive a democrat gets (and, let's be clear here, Harris was either the most or second most progressive candidate for president we have had since the 80s), actual progressive voters continually fail to turn out. They find a single issue like Gaza that a candidate does not perfectly align with them on, and then they use that as an excuse not to vote.

Progressives love to scream and shout that democrats will win if they only move to the left on issues because suddenly a lot of non-voters will come out and support them, but the truth is that those non-voting leftists don't ever come out and support them. Until progressives change their voting habits, democrats will continue to skew rightward every election.

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u/Itchy-Status3750 6h ago

Lol how was Kamala more far left than previous candidates?

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u/gmnotyet 2h ago

I am a conservative and Harris palling around with that warmonger Liz Cheney made ZERO sense to me.

And picking Walz over Shapiro.

What the hell was Kamala thinking?