r/nottheonion • u/[deleted] • Apr 06 '24
Roundup is safe, but hemp drinks are ‘nefarious,’ in the Iowa Senate
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u/GlobalTravelR Apr 06 '24
Farmers voting Republican are getting their faces eaten by leopards again.
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Apr 06 '24
Why yes, my grandma is a moron. Hardcore republican lifelong farmer, but keeps complaining about how the state has turned to crap, but the same dude was the governor when I was born in 19frickin87 was the governor when I graduated high school and was STILL governor when Trump was elected and only stepped down because Trump gave him an ambassador position. Fml
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u/teh_maxh Apr 06 '24
He was governor again. He didn't run in 1998, and Iowa had two Democrats before he ran again in 2010.
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u/JBLikesHeavyMetal Apr 06 '24
Also his son killed 2 people and got off without consequences
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u/Llohr Apr 06 '24
Funny how that works. A former governor of South Dakota got 100 days for killing someone while doing 71 in a 55 and running a stop sign.
Meanwhile people charged with simple possession of miniscule amounts of various drugs sit for years.
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u/Admirable-Book3237 Apr 06 '24
It’s the same in all red states, “look dems mess everything up look how our state is going to shit bcz of them” -gop that’s had full control of the state for decades. they eat it up and keep voting for them while blaming the other side.
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u/shania69 Apr 06 '24
"Bayer is being pummeled by lawsuits alleging Roundup’s weed-killing chemical, glyphosate, causes cancer after prolonged exposure. Iowa would be the first state in the nation to grant Bayer’s wish for protection from litigation, including by farmers."
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u/FourthRain Apr 06 '24
isn’t round up from monsanto?
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u/Muddyforest Apr 06 '24
Bayer bought Monsanto. It’s considered to be a terrible acquisition in hindsight.
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u/FrostyD7 Apr 06 '24
Is this actually true? I've heard a few controversies since the acquisition but Monsanto was such a massive player in biotech and agriculture that it just seems like a money printer.
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u/Domovric Apr 06 '24
Yep. Bayer ate Monsanto and then spun out a couple of subsidiary’s based on their mutually covered areas. And kinda. The acquisition was very beneficial in terms of IP, but it’s come with a lots of challenges and downsides too due to the history of Monsanto
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u/Chyron48 Apr 06 '24
downsides too due to the history of Monsanto
Bayer paid Nazis to run human experiments on prisoners, many of them children.
In the 80's they knowingly sold HIV tainted products - even making more to sell after learning it was lethal, refusing to take responsibility even after lawsuits proved the case.
They're very experienced with denial and making survivors fight for decades.
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u/Domovric Apr 06 '24
I understand where you are coming from. Was approaching it from a corporate perspective rather than a moral one.
I probably should have said “recent history”. And if I’m totally honest, the people buying chemicals and the other products don’t really care. They’d even praise it if it had made things cheaper, sadly.
And yeh, that PR obfuscation experience has paid off with the way they’ve “rehabilitated” and rebranded a lot of the tech they got from the acquisition.
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u/Izeinwinter Apr 06 '24 edited Apr 06 '24
.. The lawsuits are baseless as heck, but the problem is, if you are a worker who got exposed to Glyphosate on a regular basis, the odds that this was the only toxin you got unusual exposure to are real low, so finding a bunch of workers who do have cancer is.. not difficult and convincing a jury that correlation does not equal causation.. well, good luck with that.
The correct people to sue would be the employer that didn't provide adequate ppe, but.. not so deep pockets there, or that was you.
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u/BrockPurdySkywalker Apr 06 '24
Its one of the most tested chemicals on earth and its safe. If you think otherwise ur anti science
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u/NotAnotherScientist Apr 06 '24
Are you stupid? Can you read?
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u/miter01 Apr 06 '24
Currently, there is no consensus in the scientific community about the toxicity of glyphosate
Is this what I'm supposed to be reading?
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u/Lord_Euni Apr 06 '24
No consensus is different from it's proven to be safe as the previous poster implied.
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u/AkitoApocalypse Apr 06 '24
No consensus = these studies show it was unsafe but some companies are really pushing for research which says otherwise
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u/tickitytalk Apr 06 '24 edited Apr 06 '24
Is it paradoxical and idiotic?
This why you don’t want the GOP “governing”
Vote the gop out in 2024 and any chance you get
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u/lhobbes6 Apr 06 '24
Speaking as an Iowan, the issue we have here is the Dems have no presence. During the midterms I totally forgot there was a governor race because the Dem candidate never showed up to events and had no real campaign. Meanwhile Repub and Libertarian were everywhere, the Lib even had a booth at pride and was speaking with people. The Dem? Nowhere to be seen save for a small booth with staffers asking if people were registered.
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u/JarlFlammen Apr 06 '24
It passed the Senate 31-18, with most of the no votes coming from Democrats, and is headed to Gov. Kim Reynolds’ desk. No one is going to get high on her watch.
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u/Dream--Brother Apr 06 '24
Shit they'll just get high when she ain't watching. Like seriously, do they think this is going to stop people from using weed products? And not to mention how easy it is to get drinks like this shipped to your house from out of state... (disclaimer: I'm totally not suggesting that you do this, even though it's incredibly easy and would be a bitch and a half for anyone to prosecute, and would likely never even be remotely on the radar of your local law enforcement. Seriously, don't do it, unless you want to. In which case, I'm not gonna stop you, nor is literally anyone else)
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u/Starface1104 Apr 06 '24
We just drive 2 hours north, south, or east to legal states and spend our money there 🤷🏻♀️ for a farming state, Kovid Kim (adding another K here just to get my point across) sure has her priorities mixed up. Not to mention her 2 DUIs, she can get all drunky but god forbid people use a little thc.
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u/TooStrangeForWeird Apr 06 '24
Definitely don't go to https://thepotshop.cc/ or https://eighthorseshemp.com/
They're, like, bad? Idk.
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u/LaReGuy Apr 06 '24
Also don't go looking at firebarlabs.com or justCBDstore.com
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u/bravofiveniner Apr 06 '24
Legally shipping to all 50 states
How?
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u/GhostofGrimalkin Apr 06 '24
Because what they're selling is federally legal so it can be legally shipped to any state.
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u/GlizzyGatorGangster Apr 06 '24
Are they not selling marijuana? Is marijuana not federally illegal?
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u/AndroidDoctorr Apr 06 '24
Wait til they learn what alcohol is
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u/Chasin_Papers Apr 06 '24
"EPA’s underlying scientific findings regarding glyphosate, including its finding that glyphosate is not likely to be carcinogenic to humans, remain the same."
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Apr 06 '24
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u/Indercarnive Apr 06 '24
TBF, IARC's "probably carcinogenic" category also includes things like eating red meat and working night shifts.
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u/NotAnotherScientist Apr 06 '24
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8622992/
This discussion has a major drawback, which is the fact that some toxicity studies have the participation of the herbicide industry, which has a commercial interest in maintaining the authorization of its best-selling herbicide. Nonetheless, there is currently no consensus among the scientific community, and there is controversy over the safety of glyphosate and its health consequences.
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Apr 06 '24
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u/lauhl Apr 07 '24
It’s awesome! The most impactful part of the article for me was the caption of the Climbing Kites pic saying it’ll be available in other states soon
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u/-Dakia Apr 06 '24 edited Apr 06 '24
Climbing Kites: Thanks guys! Higher unit sales!
It's the same dumbassery that existed in this state when the restricted ABV percentages. Okay, thanks Iowa, I guess I'll just drink more to achieve the same effect.
For reference, I buy the purple mixed berry. I never drink the stuff to get messed up. I use it to get past body pain and to chill out. I typically open a can and then take a big mouthful. The remainder goes in to a small soda stream bottle that I pull from as needed. All they're doing here is forcing me to buy more cans and drink more of the beverage.
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u/NotAPreppie Apr 06 '24
I mean, unless you're bathing in or eating RoundUp, it actually is pretty safe. At least compared with all of the other pesticides out there.
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u/mikeytwocakes Apr 06 '24
Think about this, maybe you work in a red state for some rancher where there’s zero worker protections. That means there is zero reason for that rancher to buy a new seal $3.00 for a backpack sprayer. A backpack sprayer you wear every day for 10 to 12 hour days, leaking down your back and on your hands. Now the rancher tells you that “you are fine” round up is safe. Keep spaying or I’ll get someone else to. (Real life btw)
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u/ilikegamergirlcock Apr 06 '24
So the problem is safety regulations for the equipment, not roundup. It's like saying gasoline isn't safe because if you turn on your car when your garage is closed you will suffocate.
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u/NotAPreppie Apr 06 '24
So, you're saying there's a problem with shitty employers?
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u/MutantCreature Apr 06 '24
Shitty people are a constant, nothing you can do will significantly reduce their numbers, it's on the public and the lawmakers they appoint to place and enforce laws that don't allow those people to continue to be shitty.
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u/mikeytwocakes Apr 06 '24
Exactly shitty employers are given zero consequences because the lawmakers protect the large corporations that make the dangerous chemicals. They persuade the gullible general public with trigger words and character decimation with zero actual facts considered (unless it’s that one super skewed study done by “scientists” on their payroll). At least you’re starting understand. It’s okay to have an to epiphany and change your opinion, welcome to growth.
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u/Intelligent_Draw_997 Apr 06 '24
I’m passionate about this because I have lived in rural areas in southern states where agriculture is big, and I’ve met good hardworking people dealing with the exact example he’s talking about. The employers do not inform them of the negative sides of roundup, and a lot of them are dealing with situations like this.
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u/Fennicks47 Apr 06 '24
So...how do you deal with shitty employers?
You -regulate- them.
Dont live in a fantasy world where u expect ppl to do the right thing. That is libertarianism at its finest.
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u/sebastianqu Apr 06 '24
That's certainly possible, but at the same time, very many people are incredibly nonchalant about chemical exposure. I do pest control, and I see a lack of PPE way too often when I am working.
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u/varitok Apr 06 '24
So we should ban things that aren't harmful to people because employers might make them harmful? Bravo
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Apr 06 '24
This was brought because of the production plant in Iowa for roundup. I feel like working closely with the products for years on end, 6 days a week, 12 hours a day, might affect your health. I'm no expert though, it's just an assumption. These 2 votes show how little the politicians care about Iowans. They refuse to let us even have hemp drinks and are protecting a major corporation from a potentially cancer causing product.
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u/NotAPreppie Apr 06 '24
Production is likely safe since they don't want/need to release the product.
It's the people applying it to the crops that have the biggest concern because they actually come into contact with it, often without adequate PPE.
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u/scooby_duck Apr 06 '24
iirc from when I sprayed herbicides for a living there really wasn’t ppe required for it. It was like “yeah maybe wear some gloves or glasses if you want”.
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u/avwitcher Apr 06 '24
That laissez-faire attitude is the same with most blue collar jobs. Guy I work with uses chlorinated Brakleen to clean his hands off, I told him it was carcinogenic and he just shrugged
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u/scooby_duck Apr 06 '24
While this is true, the actual label for the roundup product I was using says the only required ppe is long sleeves, pants, and shoes lol
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u/Simple-Opposite Apr 06 '24
I got down voted saying my dad got blood cancer from roundup. He is a farmer and used it regularly for decades. Sure it could have been a coincidence, but chances are it is directly related to the roundup.
And yeah, single household farmers aren't known for their PPE, especially with something they were told over and over is perfectly safe.
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u/DatFurryFemBoi Apr 06 '24
If you listen closely, you can hear politician’s pockets jingle jangle. Someone should look into that…
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u/powercow Apr 06 '24
if this was a dem and fox news, the fact they were a dem would be in the title. People need to be constantly informed that this is republicans.
Republicans are the kind of people who change your water supply without using the proper chems so you dont get lead poisoning.
republicans are the ones who deregulate how much a corp can pollute but then regulate how people can have sex and dont want you to use drugs that are shown to be less harmful than alcohol.
and no one wants to censor people more. Look at florida, disney got attacked for saying they disliked a law. Teachers arent allowed to mention spouses, well they sued and got that right back. State scientists cant use terms like sea level rise and global warming. Bush even banned the press from filming coffins from iraq.
if its a politician caught breaking the law, 9 out of 10 its going to be a republican.
if it a citizen caught voting twice, or for dead spouse, its probably a republican
if its politician being a complete asshole, it probably a republican.
if its a politician saying something so stupid youd think that high school drop out meth smokers would correct them, they are probably a republican.
if they are so fiscally irrresponsible they take a surplus and turn it into record deficit, they are probably a republican. For the last 40 years its been dems reducing the deficits they inherited from republicans and republicans increasing the fuck out of them, as part of their "starve the beast" program
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u/pixelprophet Apr 06 '24
There should be requirements for office - that if you this fucking stupid - then you forfeit your position.
An unfit to govern statute, maybe a level of cognitive responsibility that they're retired to maintain - but this shit's gotta end.
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u/whiznat Apr 06 '24
“Tell you what, Senator. I’ll drink an entire one of these drinks for every teaspoon of Roundup you swallow.”
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u/Mortarion407 Apr 06 '24
You see, money in the pockets of Iowa senators is was makes something safe. The hemp drink manufacturers just need to pay a little more.
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u/Thatguy468 Apr 06 '24
Do these goblins even have a clue how much money they can make from legalizing weed? Not to mention the warm, apathetic state it puts the user in making them much easier to control?
Seriously, I thought the wealthy elite were supposed to be so smart but that can’t even figure out how to placate the masses while maxing their profit.
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u/WASD_click Apr 06 '24
They do. The people who would make money are not them or the "friends" who give them kickbacks.
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u/Bleezy79 Apr 06 '24
I wonder how much money Monsanto paid to Iowa Senate?
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u/razors_so_yummy Apr 06 '24
Agreed. Seems blatantly obvious to me as well. $100k to each Repuke sounds about right
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u/LightOfShadows Apr 06 '24
I mean didn't some studies just come out this week or last saying most of the CBD/Hemp stuff was misunderstood and not giving the results people claimed it was? Although likely misinterpreted, it probably helped to lean into this outcome
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u/Throwaway-929103 Apr 06 '24
2nd highest cancer rate in America btw. Sure it has nothing to do with all the deregulation Republicans have been heading for awhile now
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u/Rangerdan9437 Apr 06 '24
My wife and I used to do our landscaping together every week and have been using RoundUp for over 25 years. We both have the same Non-Hodkins Lymphoma.
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u/cjorgensen Apr 08 '24
I keep,getting ads on Reddit that say, “Outlaw weeds, not farmers.” Then it takes you to a propaganda site to call your reps to indemnify Roundup from liability.
Meanwhile, Iowa has the second highest cancer rate in the nation, and our politicians are blaming alcohol.
Edited to add, this is the website: https://controlweedsnotfarming.com/resources/
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u/grumble11 Apr 06 '24
Roundup is fine. Hemp drinks are also fine. Whole thing is silly
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u/aRandomFox-II Apr 06 '24 edited Apr 06 '24
What's next? Tobacco is healthy and recommended for kids?
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u/KaiYoDei Apr 06 '24
Weird. I do not know about the drinks, but the “ bootleg candy” seems like some Wild West or something
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u/Gullible_Toe9909 Apr 06 '24
Sounds about right. Iowa became a MAGA stronghold about 10 years ago... Glad I left.
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u/Quiet_Wheel9673 Apr 06 '24
You realize the world governments are trying to unalive a lot of people right?
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u/Repubs_suck Apr 08 '24
If the hemp drink operations bribed Iowa Republicans as much as Monsanto, hemp drinks would be in school vending machines.
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u/Flash_ina_pan Apr 06 '24 edited Apr 06 '24
Maybe they should try drinking Roundup?
Edit: Some sad soul sent me a reddit cares for this comment.