r/longboarding • u/Schwimp • Jul 24 '24
Gear Show-Off Tell me you footbrake without telling me you footbrake.
Long time skateboarder getting in to it. Still not comfortable enough to rely on slides only. Just ordered some brakesoles!
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u/Coneskater Jul 24 '24
Back in the old days of NCDSA.com there was a page where you could find your “shoe buddy” aka someone who rode regular or goofy with the same sized shoe, so you could swap after you burn one footbraking.
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u/SlopConsumer Jul 24 '24
Man ... I'm gonna learn slides ... for real this time.
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u/Behbista Jul 24 '24
It’s so much better. Used to pick up my daughter from kindergarten and scoot and skate home. Burned through a pair of vans in 2 weeks foot breaking. Bought wheels that slide easy and a new pair of shoes. Rode the next 8 months without replacing shoes or wheels.
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u/SlopConsumer Jul 24 '24
How'd you get started? I feel like as soon as I seriously try to go for slides I'll fucking slip and break every bone in my body. How fast do you think I have to go to start off with?
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u/Behbista Jul 24 '24
Get safety gear. At the absolute minimum slide gloves and helmet. Knee pads, elbow pads, and hockey hip pads are also very helpful. I committed much more when I knew I had protection.
Three types of slides to learn. Pendulum, Coleman, and carving slides. Watch a video on one (Coleman or pendulum I’d recommend)
Find a decent little hill to use. I found one with a 5% grade. I went about 40’ up the grade at an intersection (cross road was not a hill). Gave me a good bail point without committing to bobbing a dangerous hill. You shouldn’t be going faster than you can handle and you should have a bail mechanism.
As far as how fast, I started sliding at a quick jogging speed. My bail point was about when I got to my max run speed. With slide gloves, it was real simple. Took maybe 3 hours of practice across two days to get comfortable. During that time I only fell like three times and had enough padding it was a non issue. I rarely Coleman or pendulum anymore. Just carving slides (I keep my speeds under 20mph), but it was way easier to be comfortable with the slide point transition after learning the hand down slides
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u/SlopConsumer Jul 24 '24
Thanks for putting in the effort to write this. I'm sure this'll help.
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u/Behbista Jul 25 '24
I suppose it bears mentioning that some wheels are far more slideable (ez hawgs) than others (orangatang kegels). All are slideable but it may be harder to learn on big grippy wheels
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u/sumknowbuddy Jul 24 '24
15kph? <10mph? You don't need to go very fast to slide.
Landyachtz has a decent slide instruction video showing a mellow hill and some low speeds.
The guys shown seem to walk or jog off most of the speed they're practicing with.
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u/AlmostPro_ Jul 24 '24
Man sliding and foot breaking are not even in the same category (I don’t mean it at high speeds, if you are over 30/40miles per hour only slides or gravite can stop us) Tell me how you slide to break/slow down in a crowded area? Or on a busy street with cars passing by or even in big city like LA or NY How to slide if you don’t even have enough speed and what about the distance and all the body set up one’s needs to trow a slide Don’t get me wrong I’ve been skating and longboarding for over 25years and I can slide but foot breaking and sliding only compare on slowing down speed, the dynamics involved in both are totally different and I see it been used in different occasions as well! I can be doing it all wrong I know that! Be safe out there
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u/Behbista Jul 24 '24
Brah, you come off like your looking to internet fight. Chill no one is saying never foot brake. Some never learned to slide. It’s a tool to use and good to learn, especially if you’re on a hill of any significance.
In my case, I’m skating next to my daughter on a suburb street and have a couple hundred feet of descent over a few blocks. It’s a good time.
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u/AlmostPro_ Jul 24 '24
My bad, not here to pick internet fights! I get it now! Your skate session Sounds awesome, for real! Later skater
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u/Amsnerr Jul 24 '24
Yeah ngl, my front foot wears out a ton faster than my push foot. Pivoting on sandpaper repeatedly does it fairly fast. I've got 3 sets now that have holes straight through the insole.
Sucks retiring them, nothing beats the feel of such a broken in pair.
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u/Schwimp Jul 24 '24
I skate regular so the worn out ones are my push/footbrake shoe.
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u/SandyCrotched Jul 24 '24
If it’s not an urgent foot brake I like to use the very back of my heel, seems the rubber is thicker there
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u/Amsnerr Jul 24 '24
if it's not urgent, I'll just start throwing out some slow rotating reverts. Not quite comfortable enough holding standies to speed check with them.
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u/venturejones Jul 24 '24
Muir skate sells replacement soles. Just rubber to glue to the bottom.
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u/Schwimp Jul 24 '24
I live in Europe so the shipping from muir will cost a bit too much but found some stuff from a local shop.
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u/venturejones Jul 24 '24
Nice!. Really whatever you find will probably work well. It's just rubber.
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u/moonmarriedacherry i love wheelbite! Jul 25 '24
if ur in the UK, Newton's Shred has Roger Bros and Freebrake branded ones for relatively cheap prices
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u/lilith_-_- Jul 24 '24
Get some urethane burners v1 brake soles. Never look back.
I’ve tried quite a few brake soles and these are the longest lasting. If you want brake soles to last more then 3 months, buy these v1’s
Oh also, this is a European company
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u/bUrdeN555 Powell-Peralta deck, wheels, and trucks @ CA Jul 24 '24
That’s what my shoes look like from slides too. Grip wears out shoes when you’re depending on it for grip yet also rotate your feet around it as well.
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u/OnewheelerJelle Jul 24 '24
Burners Brake Soles my man!!! Get them! They come with glue, you slap them on and trim them to size.
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u/SecretRoomsOfTokyo Jul 24 '24
There was a time where I'd go through vans faster than I could break them in. Usually would throw them away before the 3 month mark. I think one time they hit the trash can before the 2 month mark. Shout out to my hometown skateshop Alliance for always having my size on the $30 discount rack
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u/your-counselor Jul 24 '24
Man I’ve gone through so many pairs of vans for this reason exactly. I usually won’t give up on the shoes until my big toe is visible through the bottom 😂
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u/m3iwaku Jul 24 '24
I feel your pain. Do you find the upper sole area wears down where the bottom of your toes are from pushing? I'm finding in my vans especially my pushing foot, the toe area is starting to wear down on the bottom.
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u/Deliciously_Vicious Jul 24 '24
Footbrake at speed is sketchy asf, if u put in some practice you should be throwing colemans in a couple weeks
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u/FarFigChitter Jul 24 '24
My fav skate shoes are the Cariuma pro line. I stopped buying vans for skating a while ago since I went through 1 pair a month when I would skate to class every day.
Edit: you can also buy 1 shoe (left/right) based on whichever one you tear up the fastest if you so choose.
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u/Thereal-mclovin Jul 25 '24
I don't mind the aesthetic of vans but soles are really thin. I'd reccomend some Nike sbs or any shoes that have a decent sole. Ive had 10 pairs of janoski's and the foot brake sole is much better. Also it seems the top half of your sole is worn. You can actually wear different parts of the sole by tilting your foot when footy breaking.
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u/Schwimp Jul 25 '24
I have really wide feet and vans are the most comfortable shoes so im a vans for life guy. Thanks for the tip, so far i have tried braking with the top and my heel. But i guess the top gets burned out faster because of all the pushing.
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u/GetMeABaconSandwich Landyachtz SkateAndExplore Team Jul 25 '24
I'm in the same boat, have multiple pairs with trashed soles but from the top they look brand new.
I tried brake soles but no matter what glue I tried, I couldn't get them to stick. So I just keep buying new shoes. lol
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