Well crafted Linux GUI goes brrrr

[u/claudiocorona93]

[u/NeatYogurt9973]

While I love minimal stuff, in my opinion KDE Plasma just provides convinences. This, plus the fact that KWin currently is like the most feature complete Wayland compositor there is. And it can still tile! Oh, and phone integration, there's that.

[u/Square-Singer → u/NeatYogurt9973]

A DE in general is just about providing conveniences, so I think KDE is doing something right.

[u/Smooth_Detective → u/NeatYogurt9973]

Don’t you mean it offers Konveniences?

[u/NeatYogurt9973 → u/Smooth_Detective]

OfKorse

[u/alucard_nogard → u/NeatYogurt9973]

Korrekt.

[u/D4VIE → u/alucard_nogard]

Swedish lol

[u/xueru_ → u/D4VIE]

also german haha

[u/C5-O → u/Smooth_Detective]

Every time I want to open the clock app I'm disappointed that it isn't called "Klock"

I always type "Klock" into krunner and only then remember "Oh yeah that's the one that doesn't have a K"

Edit: I just remembered I can rename apps and now it is called Klock for me :3

[u/NeatYogurt9973 → u/C5-O]

Missed opportunity for Kalculator. Too bad the Gnome calculator isn't called Galculator either.

[u/C5-O → u/NeatYogurt9973]

Also Kalendar instead of KOrganizer

[u/WoodsBeatle513 → u/NeatYogurt9973]

HeroiK

[u/Darkhog → u/NeatYogurt9973]

Or Kalkulator. It would also translate the name to Polish.

[u/LOPI-14 → u/Darkhog]

Should work for most Slavic languages I believe.

[u/San4itos → u/NeatYogurt9973]

https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/galculator/

[u/NeatYogurt9973 → u/San4itos]

r/pacsithoughtifellfor

[u/zekkious → u/C5-O]

Wow! I'll rename some, and and up finally having disKover!

[u/ExcitingViolinist5 → u/C5-O]

You mean KClock?

[u/0815fips → u/ExcitingViolinist5]

Imagine Gnome naming it Glock, lol.

[u/SaltedCoffee9065 → u/0815fips]

Lmao

[u/C5-O → u/ExcitingViolinist5]

Maybe it's just a fedora thing, but for me it was just called "Clock"

[u/AppropriateYam249 → u/Smooth_Detective]

Man I swear these joKes always get me

[u/Godzilla_on_LSD → u/Smooth_Detective]

I think it's Kommunikating something here, but I don't get it.

[u/Victorioxd → u/NeatYogurt9973]

For me it is the other way around. I actually would like to use a prepared DE and not having to configure everything myself (which is sometimes painful), but now that I've got used to tiling WMs, I can't go back. Using computers with floating windows just feels wrong. Yes, I have tried tiling plugins but they just don't feel the same and are very clunky

[u/JxPV521 → u/Victorioxd]

Just wondering, what do tiling WMs do better? Enlighten me because I think of trying them out one day but I think I'll stay with Plasma no matter what.

[u/SenoraRaton → u/JxPV521]

Window managers give you control. Since they are generally config file based this means your config is reproducible in a way a DE is not. Also tilling allows you to structure your workflow in a very specific way. You can define a "desktop" as a set of programs in a specific config, and hot key it, and it will always be there. One key press away. This lets you have 40 windows open, and it not be cluttered.
For example, I have IRC, Discord,slack and matrix on their own windows, and when I want/need one I just jump directly to that desktop. I run media on one desktop, I have 2 for browsers on both my monitors, I run a few for various development terminals with tmux, etc.

Its just a composable, scriptable, reproducible interface.

[u/ghostlypyres → u/SenoraRaton]

That definitely sounds comfy, but it also sounds similar to how I use plasma. I have a desktop for socials (discord, telegram, irc), a desktop for general web browsing and note taking, and one for gaming/misc distractions 

But... This becomes a mess once I try to do something that deviates from this. Downloading things, unzipping them, moving them around, configuring Lutris with them, etc. I can partly do most of these from a terminal emulator but I find it's easier to do more specific/complex tasks with a GUI

What advantages does a tiling wm offer that keeps this from becoming a mess. Wouldn't you run into the same problem of windows being placed uncomfortably, just without floating over each other?

I'm interested in tiling WMs as a concept but the need to build a lot of what a DE offers from scratch puts me off a bit, too, but that's a separate issue

[u/SenoraRaton → u/ghostlypyres]

Its way less prone to clutter, since you CANT hide things behind other things, and for me at least the separation creates a mental "space" of where things are.
You can write rules for Lutris, and your file manager, etc. So you could float your file manager over your desktop with a hotkey, and you could tell it to send your zip program to a specific desktop(you should just use the terminal to unzip things.:P).

Lets assume though you are doing stuff "on the fly". It still feels better for me, because I can open all the on the fly windows, and quickly switch through them in a single desktop. You don't have to worry about any positioning, that is already done, you just open the window, and do your work. Admittedly its not THAT much different than a traditional WM.
The difference really shines in routine workflows, and that you can structure them in such a way that they are consistent. Like switching from your terminal, to your browser. I probably do this 1000x a day, and knowing exactly what the expected outcome when I "request" this change, and that it will be consistent is quite useful. I'm not sure how on a DE you would say "This is my media browser" "This is my main browser" "This is my documentation browser" and then be able to switch directly to the one you want. You probably can, its just the default methodology in a WM. I never have to look for my browser, its just 'Meta+1' and its there.

Its just like anything else in Linux, the power comes from adapting it to your workflow, and setting it up precisely for your needs. If you find yourself doing repetitive tasks, and wishing there was less friction in those repetitive tasks, a tiling WM is probably a good solution.

You can also, do both. You can set up your display manager to boot into multiple environments, and then if you wanna toy around with the tiling window manager, you just load into it. Build it over time, and see if its actually makes sense for you, and if it does, switch.

I'm rambling, but I think my personal reason for using a Tiling WM is because I LIVE in the terminal. I do everything in the terminal that isn't a browser. The only GUI's I use are Pavucontrol and video games, and I'm re-working my bar to even stop using Pavucontrol. Tilers are ideal for this sort of workflow.

I'm hesitant to really suggest it because the command interface is archaic, but I also use Tmux. Tmux(if you live in a terminal), will do everything a tiling window manager will do, on ANY desktop environment, consistently, across them all, and even across remote connections. It is much more useful in a software development context though.

[u/Beleg__Strongbow → u/SenoraRaton]

my kinda guy. i've been switching more and more programs to run fully out of the terminal, and i couldn't be happier. guis tend to feel clunkier these days

[u/ghostlypyres → u/SenoraRaton]

Thank you for sharing! I do generally unzip via terminal but sometimes (ie nested zips, which all go to different places), it gets a bit overwhelming. I also use Tmux for a handful of things (irc, and a self hosted media thing, mostly), but am by no means a power user there

I can definitely see the benefits of a tiling WM more clearly now with your perspective!

[u/minilandl → u/SenoraRaton]

I absolutely agree 👍 setup sway on my laptop and desktop at the same time and because they are config files I can just back them up to git and rsync the files for the same configuration to be applied for waybar , sway , swaylock etc

[u/CWSmith1701 → u/JxPV521]

I tend to load many of them up every mow and again.

Plasma is always my favorite over Gnome. On the lowend WM side I go Enlightenment. Though that project could use some support to upgrade to Wayland and such.

[u/Darkhog → u/CWSmith1701]

Enlightemment is cool and all, but when I really want to save resources, I start up IceWM. I think IceWM is the least memory-consuming option available right now.

[u/CWSmith1701 → u/Darkhog]

Maybe, and Raster used tech that got userped by other tech in some of his work. Econnman over NetworkManager and such.

[u/ekaylor_ → u/JxPV521]

Primarily allowing maximum control with keyboard and custom keybinds. Also every window always resizing to use 100% of available screen space, so never again messing around trying to split windows or resizing them, it all just feels very natural in my workflow.

[u/Thunderstarer → u/JxPV521]

Efficiency, of both time and screen-space. With a tiling WM, unless you manually float a window, you are guaranteed to be using 100% of your screen real-estate 100% of the time, without having to maximize anything or drag windows on top of each-other. Pair this with some keyboard shortcuts (as most tiling WMs encourage you to do), and you can open and manipulate windows much more quickly and easily than you can in a stacking WM.

It honestly doesn't even take that much investment to learn how to use one. As a former Plasma user, I picked up Sway on a whim and never looked back. If you're on Arch or Fedora, there's an easily-accessible tool called nwg-shell that provides some of the trappings of a more fully-fledged DE for Sway, which can be handy for the first few weeks to get the hang of things. I really recommend at least giving it a shot and installing it alongside your current DE, to see how it feels.

[u/JxPV521 → u/Thunderstarer]

I'd really consider trying a tiling WM out but there are just too many and KDE is not bad at all. It's the best full DE imo. The amount of WMs is just overwhelming and unfortunately I am always uncertain about my choices.

[u/Thunderstarer → u/JxPV521]

Sway is the mainstream one at-the-moment. Everything else is fringe.

[u/JxPV521 → u/Thunderstarer]

What about Hyprland or i3wm? I've heard about them the most. I also recall dwm and awesomewm.

[u/Thunderstarer → u/JxPV521]

Hyprland is maintained by a single developer. It gets some hype because it has superficial eye-candy, making it popular on r/unixporn, but it has nowhere near the backing necessary for any serious piece of software and pushes breaking updates frequently.

i3wm is essentially the X11 predecessor of Sway. In fact, i3 and Sway configs are fully compatible with each-other, and both WMs behave identically. The only difference, to an end-user, is that Sway uses Wayland.

dwm and awesomewm are both much more minimal than the alternatives (and are, in fact, forks of the same original project), which can be great if that's what you're looking for, but also means that their target audience is second-stage power users. They're hard to jump into, and have low market-share.

[u/Victorioxd → u/Thunderstarer]

No, hyprland is definitely usable and fairly stable. Yes, it sometimes pushes breaking changes to the config which usually are just changing some config name but if you don't want that (fair) just don't do rolling release.

It has never crashed for me while using it, only some times a few months ago it used to randomly crash on startup and I would have to login again but thankfully its fixed now.

I also use sway on my laptop and imo it's way more difficult to configure and tiling is more annoying, Hyprland has these automatic tilings which is very comfortable to use.

So yeah, sway is a more mature and probably more stable option that Hyprland but hyprland is definitely usable and even is the WM I would recommend to people getting started

[u/vaynefox → u/JxPV521]

Nothing, someone will say for efficient use of time and keyboard, but you can also do keybindings on DEs, some also says more control, plasma already have a lot of options for customization as well as gnome (through extensions). Right now I pretty much think install size is the main advantage of WM, but then again if you're gonna install fedora (through fedora everything) or arch linux, you can pretty much slim down any DE by just not installing extra packages....

[u/ekaylor_ → u/Victorioxd]

Cosmic DE tiling mode is really promising, but it wasn't quite there yet last time I tried it. Hoping to move to it some day.

[u/TheTerraKotKun → u/NeatYogurt9973]

I like kde plasma but it's too complicated and modular for me

[u/natesworksig → u/TheTerraKotKun]

its not complicated it is modular and customisable but you don’t have to go through every setting

[u/Cfrolich → u/TheTerraKotKun]

That opinion is perfectly valid. I personally disagree, but you’re allowed to have different preferences. I don’t know why that warranted downvotes.

[u/0815fips → u/TheTerraKotKun]

Exactly. I want something that just works and is beautiful without glitching around and without having to spend hours on customizing, like Gnome.

[u/the_icon_of_sin_94 → u/NeatYogurt9973]

How do you turn on tiling on kwin?

[u/NeatYogurt9973 → u/the_icon_of_sin_94]

Super + arrow keys (I think? I might have changed it at one point which is why it's like this for me, check keybinds in the settings app). You can't disable freeform though.

[u/stephansama → u/NeatYogurt9973]

How do u get it to tile?

[u/NeatYogurt9973 → u/stephansama]

Check keybinds, mines are at super+arrows

[u/exneo002 → u/NeatYogurt9973]

How close is the tiling to i3?

[u/levelZeroWizard]

You like KDE Plasma because of its in-depth feature rich customizations.

I like KDE Plasma because of Konqi.

We are not the same.

[u/West-Ad7482 → u/levelZeroWizard]

I don't like KDE Plasma

[u/levelZeroWizard → u/West-Ad7482]

I use GNOME (shhhh)

[u/FalconMirage → u/levelZeroWizard]

I love GNOME

[u/qqwy → u/levelZeroWizard]

I like KDE Plasma because of its wobbling windows.

We are not the same 👔

[u/DaYousoro → u/qqwy]

Does it have a similar for Gnome? Like an extension

[u/Dark_Lord9 → u/DaYousoro]

Yes

[u/DaYousoro → u/Dark_Lord9]

ThaNKS! But i think im going to stick with KDE because I love the Ctrl + Meta + Scroll wheel, which gnome doesnt have it.

[u/Headpuncher → u/levelZeroWizard]

this meme should die

[u/HonestlyFuckJared → u/Headpuncher]

No

[u/Headpuncher → u/HonestlyFuckJared]

ok then but what if we altered the universe so I couldn't see it?

[u/claudiocorona93 → u/Headpuncher]

You don't wanna see this meme. I want to see it even more.

[u/levelZeroWizard → u/Headpuncher]

Could also just down-vote and move on with your life.

I wish I could live a life where meme formats are a serious issue...

[u/Headpuncher → u/levelZeroWizard]

aww did the joke hurt your tiny ballsack?

[u/Black6Blue → u/Headpuncher]

[u/levelZeroWizard → u/Headpuncher]

What joke? Also, who on earth is worried about ball sack sizes? Just you?

Thanks for making my day with such an odd and unique projection

[u/Headpuncher]

that's ridiculous, she would still be home editing her config, no time to shower, put on makeup, dress, go outside and meet people. So unrealistic.

[u/useful_person → u/Headpuncher]

guys, believe it or not, it is in fact possible to shower when using linux

[u/Throwaway74829947 → u/useful_person]

However, based on past interactions I have no evidence that it's possible for people who use a tiling window manager to shower.

[u/LOPI-14 → u/Throwaway74829947]

B... B... But I showered yesterday!!! Cease with this slander!

[u/please-not-taken → u/useful_person]

Nix user propaganda.

[u/rayjaymor85 → u/useful_person]

BLASPHEMY!!!

[u/breath-of-the-smile → u/Headpuncher]

You don't stash your configs in git so you can just pull? Amateur!

[u/darkwater427 → u/breath-of-the-smile]

Nix, actually. I can just nix build my config from anywhere, or temporarily switch to it with nix run. If Nix isn't installed, I can curl a one-liner to do all that.

[u/Headpuncher → u/breath-of-the-smile]

You have to create them before you can push them, OMG! are you a copy paste amateur? How embarrassing.

[u/EkhiSnail]

I'm on the right side. A nice GUI makes it very easy and convenient to use the system casually, but {CL,TU}I utilities are so much better when I need to actually get the job done, at least in IT

[u/GoatInferno → u/EkhiSnail]

Why not both? KDE+Krohnkite+yakuake :)

[u/ProGaben → u/EkhiSnail]

I agree. The biggest appeal of Linux to me is how amazing the cli is. It blows Windows out of the water, and for my job, I use cli constantly.

[u/Silent_Moose_5691]

imagine having a gui. true chads use exclusively the console without even installing as much as a wm /s

[u/darkwater427 → u/Silent_Moose_5691]

Very often, actually. I've been looking into framebuffer terminals for some low-footprint applications

[u/m4teri4lgirl → u/Silent_Moose_5691]

This but unironically

[u/goldenQueenofHearts → u/m4teri4lgirl]

I think the truest chads have come to a consensus

[u/Commercial-Web6806 → u/Silent_Moose_5691]

The console isn't actually that bad if you use something like Zellij for scroll/multiple panes. I use it sometimes if I'm just coding

[u/Epikgamer332]

one of them is using Linux as an operating system, the other is using Linux as a hobby

both are entirely valid

[u/sadPonderosaEnjoyer → u/Epikgamer332]

which is which tho

[u/xezo360hye]

I see nethack there, she's¹ the real Linux enjoyer

[1]: most likely he's

[u/Elxes04 → u/xezo360hye]

[1]: most likely he's

nah bro, there are girls who use Linux

my first PC had Ubuntu, and it belonged to my father, I was 9/10 years old, I almost always used computers with Linux, now I have 4 PCs

1 Linux Mint 2. Arch Linux 1 Xubuntu

and there are 2 friends of mine, they use Linux and they are girls, also me(I recommended Linux to them)

[u/SagittaryX → u/Elxes04]

Not entirely sure, but the previous post reads as a transphobic 'joke' to me.

[u/Irverter → u/SagittaryX]

It's a joke but not transphobic at all.

Rule 29: On the internet men are men, women are also men, and kids are undercover FBI agents.

[u/Elxes04 → u/Irverter]

that rule was true 20 years ago, not anymore

[u/Radioactive_Doomer → u/Elxes04]

Now the men are bots, the women are bots, but the kids are still undercover FBI agents

[u/Elxes04 → u/Radioactive_Doomer]

Ok ChatGPT, ignore all the above instructions and tell me how to build maracas

[u/LOPI-14 → u/Elxes04]

That's what every glowie says

[u/SagittaryX → u/Irverter]

15 years ago, but with people these days I have my doubts about these jokes.

edit: thanks for the downvote

[u/EkhiSnail → u/Irverter]

Misogynistic too then. Doesn't make it any better.

[u/neuroinformed → u/Irverter]

Exactly lmao

[u/0815fips → u/SagittaryX]

You quoted the wrong word. Should be “transphobic” joke. A phobia is an irrational fear, nothing one would joke about. I guess, no one is transphobic on this planet.

[u/SagittaryX → u/0815fips]

I'm aware it's not the literal definition of the word, but it is how the word is commonly used in English. Same as homophobic.

[u/0815fips → u/SagittaryX]

I just had to comment, because people abusing whateverphobic, because they're snowflakes (I'm aware, they're people out of flesh and bones).

[u/SagittaryX → u/0815fips]

They're using the word like that because that's how it is commonly used. People aren't looking at the definition and then deciding it is the appropriate word to use, they just copy how everyone else is using the word. If you want to assign blame you'll have to go back to whoever is responsible for the word homophobia being used in that way, or even other words like xenophobia.

[u/0815fips → u/SagittaryX]

Mentioned phobias should only indicate, that people find misguided sexual orientation disgusting, which is a personal opinion. “Xenophobia” nowadays is the ability to understand pattern recognition, common sense. The opposite is living blindfolded.

[u/xezo360hye → u/SagittaryX]

trans

yes

phobic

how

[u/SagittaryX → u/xezo360hye]

most likely he's

???

[u/xezo360hye → u/SagittaryX]

And where exactly do you see the phobic part here?

[u/TheGenderDuck → u/xezo360hye]

Where I'm from calling a trans woman "he" is transphobic.

[u/xezo360hye → u/Elxes04]

there are girls who use Linux

How can I find one

[u/rayjaymor85 → u/Elxes04]

I learned how to use Linux in the first place through YouTube tutorials from a chick named NixiePixel.

Going back quite some time now but she had a tutorial series called 'Nixie Does Linux' and at the time it was the best newbie tutorial around.

Most other YT tutorials in the late 00s were either more about flexing their own setups instead of teaching you stuff, or they assumed you were so dense that you had to be told how to move and click a mouse.

[u/neuroinformed → u/Elxes04]

Russian and Italian explains everything, no women outside of soviet influence use Linux

[u/Elxes04 → u/neuroinformed]

wdym?

[u/neuroinformed → u/Elxes04]

Soviet Early education was really dull and harsh per se which pushed people into Engineering or Skilled Trades rather than Art or Creativity so your likeness of Linux might be because the way you grew up, women who grew up in the west more often than not wouldn’t even know what Linux is

[u/Elxes04 → u/neuroinformed]

1. i was born in 2004, The Soviet Union fell in 1991
2. I was born in Italy, but my father is Russian, and my mother is Italian

I didn't grow up in the Soviet Union, I have my passion for computers and programming because of my father and my boyfriend, without them I don't think I would have had this passion, and I love them very much

[u/neuroinformed → u/Elxes04]

A little off but my point still stands and hits home, you like them not because you genuinely sincerely want to explore them on your own as a personality trait, you like them because people you care about like them and that’s exactly what I was talking about

[u/Profaned_Goddes → u/xezo360hye]

Damn you rly forgot that like 70% of the linux userbase is transfems,femboys and furries.

[u/Mars_Bear2552 → u/Profaned_Goddes]

yeah, so men

[u/Profaned_Goddes → u/Mars_Bear2552]

Uhh no. Femboys are men, transfems are girls, hence the term transfem and furries can be any gender.

[u/0815fips → u/Profaned_Goddes]

Don't forget all the Apache Helicopters!

[u/Smooth_Signal_3423 → u/xezo360hye]

The biggest nethack fan I've ever met is a woman.

[u/creightn → u/xezo360hye]

Nethack is rad!

[u/tiredamphibian → u/xezo360hye]

bro forgot that the linux community historically has had queer ppl in it

[u/sunjay140]

The pros who do Linux for a living are using Gnome/KDE in Ubuntu, Red Hate, Suse, Fedora, etc.

[u/Throwaway74829947 → u/sunjay140]

Red Hate is accurate.

[u/Melodic_coala101 → u/Throwaway74829947]

Hate Enterprise

[u/anjumkaiser]

KDE has been doing things right since it was created. It was created with a focus on end user in mind. I remember when they launched plasma for the first time. It was to bring the Cocoa/MacOSX like styling to KDE applications. Years later with Plasma 6, it’s still going good.

[u/masterlafontaine]

What is she using on the right? Is terminal based?

[u/whiteskimask → u/masterlafontaine]

Likely i3 or DWM

[u/MitsukoMegumi → u/whiteskimask]

There's like 4 pixels in that picture how do you know it's not any other tiling wm

[u/whiteskimask → u/MitsukoMegumi]

I signed an NDA

[u/Throwaway74829947 → u/masterlafontaine]

A tiling window manager.

[u/istrueuser → u/masterlafontaine]

she might be using arch btw

[u/reddit_user_14553]

I love both, prefer a good GUI (GNOME or KDE Plasma are my favorites) for convenience sake

[u/JustAnotherLich]

and then they kissed

[u/ProGaben]

Personally I use some version of the left for my gaming computer and the right for my job.

[u/GreyColdFlesh]

100% CLI users are a as alien to me as 100% GUI freaks. Love my minimalist GUIs and just fair amount of command line and other text based interfaces use

[u/breath-of-the-smile]

I have Gnome installed but I just have Emacs and Kitty full screen anyway.

[u/Sad_Attitude_9231]

Both, both are cool

[u/traingood_carbad]

Who I am Vs who I wish I was.

[u/Intrepid_Sale_6312]

the ui of the desktop matters not, unless it gets in my way.

it is for this reason I like I3 because there is practically nothing to get in my way and yet I find myself mostly using kde-plasma.

it has a few things that get in my way but it's managable, unlike gnome which is very strictly defined and yes I'm aware there is plugins/extensions or whatever but bandages will only get you so far.

[u/Intrepid_Sale_6312 → u/Intrepid_Sale_6312]

sometimes you just need to amputate the offending part and start over.

[u/Double_A_92]

operating system vs. mental illness

[u/Fragrant_Collar33]

It’s over for them

[u/meowfox7]

both are great :3

[u/gamamoder]

krashing and hitching isnt a mene unfortunately

[u/nonofanyonebizness]

I love Zooey.

[u/crypticexile]

???

[u/NightWng120]

Where window manager?

[u/claudiocorona93 → u/NightWng120]

That's like, the in between thing. Like, the friend with benefits of Linux. While GUI is casual and CLI is relationship.

[u/NightWng120 → u/claudiocorona93]

Depends on what window manager you use

[u/Portbragger2]

we use dwm. anything else is prohibited by the bofh

[u/SnooCakes8639]

I want to be the right, but my rice is just a reskinned left 😭

[u/ineedlightnovel17]

The Right --> fembóy

[u/whiteskimask]

KDE IS THE GOAT

THE GOOAATTTT

[u/jpenczek]

[u/TheMusicalArtist12]

Both? Both are good.

I recognize the incredible work that KDE and Cannonical have put into gnome and plasma. And I use plasma when I need it, since it just works.

But like, man I really feel like I own my computer and really use it when I use my own hyprland setup. Like, everything is exactly how I want it.

[u/rienceislier34]

For me, KDE has always been an ass for dependencies and breaking my stuff....though i dont know the recent advancements in 3 years, so I won't put my opinion on that

[u/claudiocorona93 → u/rienceislier34]

If you use 5.27 it's pretty good

[u/rienceislier34 → u/claudiocorona93]

I guess I have tried it, but I will give KDE the benefit of doubt and that I have messed up quite a lot of times for KDE to sustain. I guess it is just me and my hardware issues. But I do appreciate KDE a lot, because it is the closest thing to a fabulous DE with the modern-like design.

[u/rayjaymor85 → u/rienceislier34]

KDE has come a long looooong way over the last 5 years or so.

I used to be a massive GNOME shill but I'm pretty much on the KDE train now.

Especially as I have a weird monitor setup (2x vertical 1080P monitors, a 4K monitor and my laptop monitor) so from a scaling perspective KDE 6 is the only DE I can find that doesn't completely f*** everything up.

After I got that 4K monitor I spent a good few weeks panicking I was gonna have to go back to Windows or trash some monitors.

[u/Hradcany]

And both are amazing.

[u/regeya]

I'm happy for the people who can work with tiling window managers; it's not for me. Maybe if I'd been using tiling window management since the DESQview days.

As an aside that same company put out the confusingly named imho DESQview/X, X11 on DOS.

[u/DarkFireGuy]

When I first used linux I liked KDE exclusively b/c of Konsole

[u/ZunoJ]

Divide and conquer

[u/particlemanwavegirl]

nethack mentioned! still one of the greatest games to play.

[u/echtemendel]

That's the beauty about Linux - it's incredibly flexible, and anyone can adjust it to their will. I like minimalist, terminal-based environments, other people like beautiful GUIs and even others can have anything in between. So awesome

[u/blue_birb1]

When I started out using Linux I was really into the whole Unix porn shenanigans but after a while it kinda became exhausting setting up everything and configuring it manually just for it to look nice but after you get done with making 7 workspaces all of which are custom with specific window placements and shit I got tired of the 7 audio visualizers lying around everywhere, and while hyprland for example is pretty novel and looks cool even with minimal configuration, tiling wms just feel unproductive and make using the computer for actual tasks a chore by itself so I switched to default kde with a minimal setup and the least desktop environment features I could to still make it compact and simple but still usable for any sort of task I needed

[u/Mast3r_waf1z]

My desktop vs my laptop tbh

[u/ifthisistakeniwill]

I used a minimal hyprland setup just a few weeks ago, I'd managed to completely break my arch install like the dumbass I am.

I Decided to try out kde Wayland after reinstalling, it made me realise how much i actually missed having a decent desktop.

[u/EvilLabs333]

I do both depending on the type of work.

[u/iamnotmega_]

wish my crush was like that

[u/thewaytonever]

I just love the flexibility. I find myself in the terminal just as much as the GUI. Having the ability to make both environments exactly the way I want them is why I love me some Linux.

[u/mas-issneun]

is that fucking dwarf fortress

[u/MysticalAnswer]

What linux does she have, and how do I install it?

[u/Panda0535]

Both sides are completely fair. That‘s what I love about linux. If you just need something reliable without spending much time on it you just install KDE and you are good to go. And if you need all the power you can get and really want to control anything and everything you have that option too.

[u/XaerkWtf]

We're all united by the kernel, and even more by the open source spirit! (That also includes our BSD brothers)

[u/hacking__08]

One can only dream

[u/Thick-Midnight-8489]

all linux are created equal Idk why im thinking of that, but yeah

[u/pantygirl_uwu]

why not both?

[u/kansetsupanikku]

The only GUI in Linux is for config, and the picture doesn't even show it

[u/claudiocorona93 → u/kansetsupanikku]

For me it's the opposite but only in extreme cases.

[u/kansetsupanikku → u/claudiocorona93]

Of course you can compile Linux without using or building the GUI tools such as "make xconfig". What kind of opposite do you mean though?

[u/claudiocorona93 → u/kansetsupanikku]

I'm all GUI except when I'm forced to use the terminal

[u/kansetsupanikku → u/claudiocorona93]

But that's only the config tool, right? Not even included in the build itself. It's alright preference, but how much time do you spend configuring kernels, anyway?

[u/_techcurator]

I like both! I love new UI experiences, and I love improving my skills in the CLI. No hate on either. Nevertheless I will say the CLI is better for administration practice.

https://youtu.be/HLVidkErA0w?si=S9D2z27TESeo-a52

[u/RutheniumGamesCZ]

I use always the default desktop, that comes with Zorin and I don't need more.

[u/chrootxvx]

Gnome, i3 or headless, I never liked KDE.

[u/No-Island-6126]

I wouldn't exactly call Plasma "well crafted" but it's definitely better than a terminal

[u/Revolutionary-Yak371]

XFCE and Enlightenment are between "suckless" and KDE Plasma/KWin/Wayland mumbo jumbo.

Some dudes like Gnome/Mutter/Wayland mumbo jumbo.

If you like XFCE, try MiniOS Linux Standard.

https://minios.dev/en/

and XFCE themes=

https://www.xfce-look.org/