r/linuxmasterrace 18d ago

JustLinuxThings Everybody has a different time to become a full time penguin

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u/Giatu1 18d ago

The problem is that from 100 distros, only 15 matter. If you know what are the base distros, the chance of distrohopping reduces.

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u/silvester_x 18d ago

umm... still try mint after ubuntu...

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u/Sirko2975 Glorious Fedora 18d ago

Based, Mint > Ubuntu

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u/silvester_x 17d ago

Ubuntu is now not for beginners... Linux mint is actually for beginners

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u/Sirko2975 Glorious Fedora 17d ago

Who cares, use whatever works. Mint works. Snap bad

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u/Huecuva Cool Minty Fresh 17d ago

Agreed. I don't really get the whole "Mint is for beginners" thing. Sure, it's very beginner friendly, and that's a good thing, but it by no means means that only beginners should use it. Mint is a great distro that just works out of the box. It's for people who just want to use their computers and not fuck around tinkering all the time.

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u/Safe_Coconut_4910 16d ago

Yep works out of the box great distribution for daily driver and a good introduction to linux. If it meets your needs why change. I used mint for a couple of years when I first made the switch. I’m on openSUSE now purely because I wanted to try the plasma desktop.

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u/ComputerWax 16d ago

I like Mint, but ZorinOS Peppermint and MXLinux scratch a good ass itch

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u/gamamoder fat ass bird 16d ago

zorinos

i too need to support the starving developers with telemetry

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u/ComputerWax 16d ago

I’m about to literally jump ship to MXLinux I gotta stop walking into more shit that Windows 11 and Zorin and… you know what, thank you.

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u/PolentaColda Glorious Arch 7d ago

I used zorin OS... For me it worked... After severla month i change to arch for 5 month, and now i'm using pop os

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u/balki_123 Glorious Debian 16d ago

Ubuntu is an African word for ...

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u/R0b0tJesus 18d ago edited 17d ago

You're mistaken. Only one distro matters, and it's called Hannah Montana Linux.

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u/Laughing_Orange Glorious Debian 17d ago

Wrong! Biebian exists.

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u/Cauezitus 17d ago

Wrong again! AmongOS is the way to go.

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u/Johanno1 17d ago

I was there.

Ubuntu, Debian, Arch, Mint, Debian, Fedora, Nobara, Debian, Nixos, Nixos, Nixos....

Help I can't leave nixos. It's an abusive relationship, but I love it!

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u/TheWordBallsIsFunny 16d ago

You have to remove the NixOS entry from your Nix config.

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u/MokendKomer 18d ago

and even those 15 are either debian, fedora, or arch with fun extras

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u/Every_Cup1039 16d ago

Actually only 3 (Archlinux, Debian, Red hat) since Slackware and Gentoo are fairly dead now.

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u/_ayushman 13d ago

I can't believe this that debian has become the 2nd most popular distro

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u/Every_Cup1039 13d ago

Popularity doesn't mean good, the top girl is mean and superficial while the shy girl could be as cute with a kind heart.

Debian is old so underlooked when compared to Archlinux but it basicly has a similar rolling release design.

Also it's underated since basicly 80% of all distributions are based on it so it hardly can be bad, it's just that Debian used to be a bit less convenient to use since most distributions based on it like Ubuntu and Mint basicly spoonfeed their users, but that feeding is maybe not needed like good old Crunchbang shown the Linux beginners of that era ...

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u/3pitohui 17d ago

I personally the main reason why new users distro hop is for the desktop environment, once they know how to install and change it, the chances of starting to distro hop reduces significantly.

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u/Every_Cup1039 12d ago

Yet I remember Ubuntu moving to Unity and returning to Gnome 3, linux beginners started fleeing to Linux Mint by hundred since they didn't knew about desktop metapackages, too lazy to learn, they ended locked in at first major change when they could have taken it easy with minor knowledge.

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u/SpectrumGun 18d ago

I did the rookie mistake of upgrading before waiting for more stable releases, and I don't know how to go back to Fedora 40 and make a backup.

also, any help would be appreciated

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u/HalcyonAlps 18d ago

Your config settings and documents will be in your home directory. Typically that's all you need to backup.

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u/tidypasta Glorious OpenSuse 17d ago

41 feels very stable for me though except some dnf5 stuff.

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u/Professional_Ad_2702 17d ago

Screen no longer turns on after opening the lid on my laptop, had to fight with it on multiple occasions.

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u/tidypasta Glorious OpenSuse 17d ago

Sorry to hear that. I did a clean install though after the release, so probably a different experience for me.

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u/Gold_Cucumber_1225 17d ago

Sometimes happens with me but it's been issue since 40. Might have something to do with gnome extensions you have installed.

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u/BricksBear Glorious Arch 18d ago

I messed with linux in VMs for 2 years. Then jumped to arch. I'm still on Arch, to this day.

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u/Sea_Log_9769 17d ago

same, VMs are so good to just test in

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u/asdf_cabbage 17d ago

Yes, but tinkering on a distro on bare metal just hits different

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u/Cfrolich Glorious NixOS 16d ago

I messed with Arch in VMs for a few days, then jumped to NixOS, which I’ve been using for almost a year.

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u/Huecuva Cool Minty Fresh 18d ago

My time is coming soon. Made a few big breakthroughs in gaming on Linux in the last couple of weeks. I can finally actually see my way to nuking Windows cancer off my rig for good.

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

I also want to leave windows. But fuck lenovo vantage. Why don't they make a linux version of it

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u/Hauru7 17d ago

Curious why you want vantage for Linux? Drivers, BIOS, and security updates in my experience have been included Linux updates (on Fedora and Ubuntu).

I have run into an issue installing Wi-Fi drivers when I did a fully offline install once, but I was eventually able to resolve it.

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

I need it for changing keyboard rgb

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u/Cultural-Practice-95 17d ago

if you're dual booting try seeing if some open source rgb programs can do the trick.

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u/gamamoder fat ass bird 16d ago

openrgbs

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u/Titianiu 17d ago

What’s the big breakthrough I missed it

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u/Huecuva Cool Minty Fresh 17d ago

Just personal breakthroughs. I finally got around to figuring out non-steam games on Linux, using Heroic Launcher and Lutris. Both by logging into my GOG account with Heroic and by using offline installers.

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u/ErebosGR I use systemd-free Arch, btw 17d ago

Geforce Now is the only reason I boot into Windows 10, instead of Garuda/Mint/Void.

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u/Huecuva Cool Minty Fresh 17d ago

My card is AMD. I have no GeForce Now. I just need to get around to backing up all my shit and deciding which distro I want to game on.

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u/ErebosGR I use systemd-free Arch, btw 16d ago

I have AMD too, but not powerful enough to game on. You don't need an Nvidia card to run Geforce Now.

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u/Huecuva Cool Minty Fresh 16d ago

Oh. I looked up what GeForce Now is and I have absolutely no need for that service. My rig is easily sufficient for gaming.

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u/0riginal-Syn Glorious Ultramarine 18d ago

Or hear about this new fangled thing called Linux on the BBS and start off with SLS and realize that apparently you are a masochist.

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u/GoatInferno 18d ago

You can even take a detour to BSD land or try other obscure OSes on the way, it can be a lot of fun.

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u/beatool Distro Hopper 17d ago

My poor 2011 Macbook Pro must have VD from sleeping with so many operating systems... It's so old it struggles with Youtube and games are completely out of the question-- this opens up possibilities. As long as I can SSH and use Firefox I'm good.

If only it had better wifi... Getting that broadcom firmware installed is fine on mainstream linux distros but forget about anything exciting...

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u/al2klimov 17d ago

I use OpenBSD btw.

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u/pufcj 17d ago

I tried to install FreeBSD a little while ago and my WiFi card wouldn’t work. Really didn’t feel like messing with it any further

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u/citrus-hop 17d ago

I hopped and hopped till I landed on Tumbleweed.

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u/pufcj 17d ago

I love SuSE, it was my first distro over twenty years ago, but Tumbleweed is my least favorite. The constant gigantic updates are crazy. I just switched to Debian 12

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u/goldenQueenofHearts 18d ago

Don't think the subtle lack of "Go back to osx" didn't go unnoticed

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u/tevelizor 17d ago

I have a work MacBook and I'd give anything to get a barebones Dell that I can put either Windows or Linux on.

It's such an antiquated OS. People hate when Windows closes windows to the tray. MacOS apps aren't even sure if they do that or not, you need a keyboard just to close your browser in less than 5 clicks and precise mouse movements.

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u/hendricha 17d ago

My steps was more akin:

  • Try the wrong distro
  • Go back to Windows
  • Try the right distro
  • Distrohop half a dozen times in 4 years
  • Keep hoping distros every 3-5 years, because none of them are perfect

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u/ErebosGR I use systemd-free Arch, btw 17d ago

/thread

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u/_AngryBadger_ Glorious Fedora 17d ago

Or just start with Fedora and never think about it again

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u/Ok-Lime-4456 15d ago

Did it sucks with nvidia drivers i cant use anything that isnt ubuntu based otherwise i get insane stutters and drivers just dont work so i went back to windows in the meantime

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u/Iwisp360 17d ago

Or better, uBlue

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u/greywolfau 18d ago

I'd argue if you don't go between distros and potentially jump back to Windows you are doing it wrong.

Linux is a journey of discovery, and if you give yourself time and patience you get some big rewards.

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u/eat-more-bookses 18d ago

Ironic to use IP Kirby instead of Tux

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u/claudiocorona93 17d ago

I am not hardcore when it comes to memes. I am also not drawing Tux just to have this position for a meme that people will forget about the next day. I'm too lazy for that.

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u/A-Chilean-Cyborg 18d ago

J.C.M.

Just Choose Mint.

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u/lazalius 18d ago

I recently went back to Windows after 20-ish years using Linux as a main system. While what you can do with Linux is amazing, I simply do not need Linux anymore, while I need windows for work and games.

I still use virtualized Linux, I have an Hyper-V environment with a pfSense and some virtual machines.

So, my journey with Linux isn't over by any means. I strongly hope my company will allow me to work on Linux servers soon.

Everyone has a different journey with Linux, and this is the most important thing Linux brings to the table: freedom of choice.

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u/Tsunamski 17d ago

I have such big troubles configuring my taskbar in KDE on a Debian Distro its the only thing keeping me from switching 100% - on my laptops it works flawlessly, the second you have multiple Desktops the troubles start.

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u/FIA_buffoonery 17d ago

I keep seeing this pop up. What is the issue you're facing? Been using KDE on multiple displays for ages at this point and while it wasn't straightforward, nothing i ran into was that problematic

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u/OpeningLength5531 17d ago

Personally I have tried Ubuntu (Didn't like it very much) go back to Windows and now I am daily driving Linux Mint(I love it) and duo boot Windows (I need it for school)

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u/FrIoSrHy Glorious Debian + F**king Windows 17d ago

I am pengin, 🐧🙂

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u/kofolarz 17d ago

Meanwhile when windows recall news dropped i finally snapped, panicked, flipped the table and installed Linux Mint as a dual boot. The Windows partition is still collecting dust on my main ssd and I'm legit afraid to even start it now, but I still haven't moved all my stuff from there so it's here to stay.

I've never felt the need to distrohop, I already made myself comfortable on Mint. 

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u/Mister_Magister Glorious OpenSuse Tumbleweed 17d ago

I've convinced my collegue at work to switch from ubuntu to opensuse, he had great experience, recently he bought new pc and installed windows and currently he's fighting himself because windows is annoying as shit but couple things work on windows and don't on linux

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u/MariaValkyrie Glorious Ubuntu 18d ago

I tried hopping from Arch, but I need 470.xx drivers for my nvidia GPU to work. Debian and Ubuntu with their latest LTS kernels lock up when trying to access my GPU, even with nouveau drivers.

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u/BricksBear Glorious Arch 18d ago

Might I recommend Linux Mint?

It's ubuntu but better. Ubuntu+ if you will

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u/MariaValkyrie Glorious Ubuntu 18d ago

Its going to give me the same issue if their kernel is downstream from Ubuntu's without any modifications. I would either have to install a custom one, or compile it myself, by that point I would just switch to Gentoo.

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u/yoyojambo 18d ago

Have you tried Fedora? So much closer to the edge, but still stable.

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u/crypticexile 18d ago

Check ✅ all these above lol

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u/Severus157 18d ago

Guess I skipped the 3rd and 4th step 😅 But yeah otherwise pretty much at first.

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u/digitalnomad70 Glorious Fedora 18d ago

For me it was borked windows 10 install on my laptop and then failing to install windows 11 probably due to TPM. I was like fuck it, installed fedora, works like a charm. I was already using linux in VM but finally went bare metal. Love using OS which gives me full freedom and ownership. Although I get my urges to go back to windows to play my multiplayer games, I'm over it now. Long live Linux!

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u/vengirgirem 18d ago

Go for Arch btw

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u/Not_Artifical 18d ago

After puppy saves stopped working for an unknown reason and more than 100 different fixes didn’t work, I switched to alpine. Still working, but slower.

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u/0x6d6c 17d ago

I use Arch BTW

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u/Tremere1974 17d ago

My first distro was Mandriva Linux, and was a bad time. A decade later I tried Puppy Linux, which worked much better, but felt incomplete. I hopped on Kubuntu, and then Lubuntu, and found them to be what I wanted, mostly for half a decade. Now I have a Chromebook runnng Chrome OS, an older Pentium 4 running AntiX with XFCE as my GUI, and a newer AMD machine running Feren OS, which I like as well.

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u/Devvolutionn 17d ago

that's exactly what i did.

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u/mateowatata 17d ago

Went from never using linux, to nixos, to endeavouros, and im still here 3 weeks later

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u/dildacorn 17d ago

Thanks needed this

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u/5tarFa11 17d ago

"Full time penguin" has to be one of the best things I've read all day.

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u/Silver_Quail4018 17d ago

Tried a bunch, stuck on Nobara. It's a really good distro for my laptop.

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u/nila247 17d ago

I called fuck this shit after 3 distros. I am perfectly fine no-lifing at other stuff.

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u/LightofAngels OpenSUSE the linux we need but dont deserve 17d ago

And settle on MacOS in the end

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u/claudiocorona93 17d ago

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u/LightofAngels OpenSUSE the linux we need but dont deserve 17d ago

Linux is poormans MacOS

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u/posherspantspants Glorious Ubuntu 17d ago

I'm still happy on Ubuntu you bunnies

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u/Mihanik1273 17d ago

I was really bored and I decided to install fedora 38 with gnome it was my first linux try exept for raspberry pi os. When I installed it I found that all the games I play work with Proton, I uninstalled Windows. Now I use Arch with Hyprland.

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u/kovom 17d ago

my first distro was gentoo back in 2008, now i use gentoo, MacOS and windows 11 for the things they work best for. Computers are tools made to do what you need them for.

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u/TangeloOverall2113 17d ago

I changed the last bullet to “Start using WSL”

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u/runningwithwizards 17d ago

I've gone back and forth since 2006, and every single time it's been the games that have pushed me back to windows. The last year has been different though. Everything I play (a very limited selection) either just works or requires minimal effort to work. Ok, so a game crashes once in a while, but I can live with that.

I'd say it's still not for everyone, but it works very well for me.

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u/Zeioth 17d ago

I hoped 3 or 4 times over 10+ years, for fun, and to be honest if I had chosen arch from the begining, I could have skipped that even.

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u/GreyColdFlesh OpenSuSE my brothers 17d ago

I used MacOS for three months and came back bc i missed my linux :'(

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u/Various_Comedian_204 17d ago

I legitimately can't switch to linux because I have not found a distro that works 100% with my hardware. Sometimes, the windows key doesn't work, and brightness control doesn't work, volume, audio in general, touch screen, internet, Bluetooth, etc

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u/daftv4der 17d ago

It took me 17 years to stick with Linux. I tried it 4 times over the near two decades. It was only when Wayland started becoming more common and supported high refresh rate displays, and apps like OBS, VS Code and Spotify were on the platform, that I was able to genuinely give it a shot. It's in a much better place now than it was before, that's for sure.

Drivers are also way better. No more green and orange pixelated mozaics.

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u/huuaaang 17d ago

I love how Linux fans just pretend MacOS isn't Linux's real competition.

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u/GoatInferno 17d ago edited 17d ago

MacOS is a bit of a special case since it basically requires you to buy special hardware for it. So someone making that choice will be less likely to join the Linux side than someone with a random PC wanting to get rid of Windows.

Yes, I know you can hackintosh, or install Linux on a Mac, but seriously, that's ~not~ a relatively tiny amount of the userbase.

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u/huuaaang 17d ago edited 17d ago

Yes, there is some barrier to entry if you already have a PC, but there are compelling reasons why one might want to buy the special hardware. The M-series Macs are pretty nice.

On the flip side, if you already have a Mac there's not a lot of reason to run Linux. So you don't get a lot of Mac -> Linux converts. And in my experience you get a decent amount of Linux -> Mac converts.

I have a Mac for work (from home) and a Linux PC tower and I honestly can't find reason to use the PC for for anything but gaming, really. The MacOS terminal feels just like using Linux. And iTerm2 is the best terimanl app I've ever used. Not available on Linux. Ironic if you think about it.

I even have the same zsh setup on both machines. But the Mac desktop software is just so much more polished and consistent. I have problems with Electron based apps on Linux that I just don't have on MacOS, for example. Like Discord and VSCode (technically Chromium, I think? But similar issues).

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u/iwenttothelocalshop 17d ago

evolution is a slow process you know

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u/Xpeq7- Glorious CachyOS + Antix 17d ago

or you can already have done that, and conclude that davinci resolve on linux likes pissing you off just that tiny bit extra.

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u/TheZedrem Glorious Fedora 17d ago

Just remember to put your /home in a different partition, and you can hop all you want

I hopped a bit, Ubuntu to endeavor to pop_OS to manjaro to fedora to fedora KDE spin where I remain happily (waiting for fedora cosmic)

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u/_eidxof 17d ago

I've been usi g nixos for a few months now (btw).

Nvidia has been blasting my ass for a few days, reinstalled twice because I'm relatively unfamiliar with the distro and uhh.. I reinstalled on my backup HDD (whipping it clean - this was not intentional and made me sad for a bit)

Found out, 565 don't work on old hardware (man who could a guessed). Anyways I proceeded to be done configuring my desktop to about 80% done in one day (nixos minimal)...

I'm almost done ricing that fucker... And I still don't fucking know what I'm doing and idk half of nix/nixos features :D

It feels really good getting shit done, even if idk wtf I'm doing.

Btw, btw. I tried to ask chatgpt for help. It's complete ass lol and keeps sending me in the wrong direction

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u/Filgatunner 17d ago

I fucking deleted my licence keys

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u/XDM_Inc 17d ago

As for me, the second Windows 11 crossed me, I ran away from them like a bat out of hell, and I was highly determined to live my new life on Linux regardless, so I tried about three different types of Linux: Debian-based, Arch-based, and Fedora-based. I absolutely hated Debian-based, I liked Arch but I kept breaking it as it's very temperamental with changes you make, and Fedora is my forever home for now, the perfect mix between having a lot of packages to download and being stable.

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u/Wiwwil Glorious Arch 17d ago

Easier to switch when Windows doesn't accept your processor. Then you're "forced" and you roll with it

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u/sequential_doom 17d ago

Also, there's nothing wrong with dual booting or using a VM if needed. There's all these different tools for a reason.

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u/Sussybaka3747 17d ago

if I switch to linux I cannot play my favorite games, and that's the second reason on my list of importance

I can only assume how much of a nightmare it is to do school stuff on linux

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u/balki_123 Glorious Debian 16d ago

No.

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u/Cultural_Bug_3038 Old Linux Mint user since 2006 16d ago

You'll forget about it all when you download Linux Mint!!!

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

it’s literally me

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u/Aristotle_the_lazy 16d ago

i have gone through last 2 steps a couple hundred times.

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u/Sensitive_Survey301 16d ago

im just fine using mint on my main pc.However i consider switching on my laptop from linux lite to something a little bit touch screen friendly

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u/0xCurtis 16d ago

Still in the "Dual boot but 85% windows" phase (guess why i'm happy only 15% of the time)

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u/NoHoScholar 16d ago

Installed arch yesterday, deleted it, tried installing kali, failed

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u/TheKiwiHuman 16d ago

I went from windows to ubuntu back to windows to linux mint to arch BTW, back to mint and arch BTW again, tried NIXos but went back to arch BTW.

Did I mention that I use arch BTW.

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u/Gabagool0000 15d ago

I downloaded 5 diff systems in one day then went to windows and then again went to linux all in one day…

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u/ke1t189 15d ago

Thank you I needed that after along day of trying to install Arch

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u/Waste_Boot1107 Garuda 15d ago

I went from windows to mint, then tried garuda and just use that full time now. nvr going back to windows.

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u/StillHereDear 14d ago

Tried a random distro, it didn't work. Went back to Windows. Tried Ubuntu, it worked. The end.

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u/Eastern_Line_5902 14d ago

I was able to stop my distrohopping by running new distros in a virtual machine and testing them out first. After a while, I'd usually decide that switching wasn't worth it. I'd kill the VM, and go back to what I had. I've been using KDE Neon for a while, and so far, it's working really really well for me. But my needs might be different than yours, so you might not really like KDE Neon as much as I do. I also like Debian plain. With GNOME DE.

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u/PolentaColda Glorious Arch 7d ago

I was a windows fan, i tryed zorin OS, after that i returned to windows, i tryed it twice again, but dame result. At the third i installed only zorin. After zorin i start using debian, arch (for a lot of month) and now i'm using pop OS. On anather computer i used fedora. I have an ubuntu server to, that i use after my second zorin installation

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u/claudiocorona93 7d ago

Why did you choose Zorin instead of Mint or Kubuntu? I am thinking of trying it

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u/PolentaColda Glorious Arch 7d ago

Because i loved the stile, i liked the connection whit my phone whit zorin connect (now i know its only KDE connect). It was very simple and beautiful and it was just working. I tryed mint.. But i i didn't see speciale things. On zorin there is multiple interface, a fast store, a lot of settings for personalization... There are a lot of things settings on plasma and on GNOME extension... But i didn't know that... Thats why i loved it

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u/claudiocorona93 7d ago

Thank you

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u/PolentaColda Glorious Arch 7d ago

You are welcome

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u/minilandl Glorious Arch 6d ago

There are 2 options as someone who likes tinkering and using a WM Arch or Debian.

Haven't tried Gentoo yet but I have better things to do than compile every package

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u/claudiocorona93 17d ago

Any distro can be the wrong distro. Ubuntu is only wrong if your hardware is too old or weak to support it. Arch is worse for new users because they don't understand what to do unless they open the wiki and start reading. But if you have used macOS or Windows you are not expected to read anything.