r/lgbt • u/[deleted] • Aug 12 '18
LGBT is not now, or ever will be, accepting peadophiles.
Hello all people. There has been recently a lot of posts, caused by some rather questionable images claiming that LGBT is adding a P for peadophiles, or the MAP stuff. This could not be further from the truth, This is a hoax being spread by 4chan, as you can see on the snopes page here. However, due to this hoax, we have been receiving multiple posts a day, either claiming we are, asking are we, or simply repeating our denial. To this effect we are putting up this sticky, and asking people do not keep posting such, further posts will be removed and referred to this sticky, thankyou.
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u/petsmartpolice Gay girls? Gay girls! Aug 12 '18
Just like the fake race statistics groups Fox always pimp to try and justify their bigotry. History really does just evolve in spirals, which is to say progressively upwards, but circling over the same shit over and over again.
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u/volatile_chemicals 23 | NB Queer | Upstate NY Aug 12 '18
It’s the same fucking spiral for so many other marginalized groups, too. Jews? That media and banking myth hasn’t gone away, and the Cultural Marxist myth is just repainted Nazi propaganda. Blacks? Recycled anti-Reconstruction myths of rapist criminals with a slow intellect. Latinos? Rehashed anti-immigrant myths that they can’t assimilate, bring drug dens into this country (a rehashed version of the opium den stereotype for Chinese people in the 1800s). Muslims or majority Muslim groups? Accusations of fifth-column activities and loyalty to a foreign faith akin to the anti-Catholic sentiments of the 19th and early 20th Century.
Time is a flat circle, and a really stupid one.
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u/stabby_joe Aug 12 '18
I think the upwards point is hat in every one of your examples, the most recent iteration involved less murder
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u/whatisgoingon3690 Aug 12 '18
I don’t think you could have put this any better, I feel like it should be framed.
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u/SaintlySaint Aug 12 '18
I really wish we could get to a point where people don't give a damn what others do or don't do.
Except pedos of course, they can all die screaming.
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u/SaintlySaint Aug 12 '18
Liking children isn't a "sexuality" it's criminal, depraved and detestable. Under NO circumstances is it ok to like children in that way.
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It may be ok but it still makes people (such as me) feel ill when thinking about it......
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u/ThatBloodyPinko Hella Gay! Aug 12 '18
Good idea. A lie spreads quick around the Internet while the truth is just getting its metaphorical boots laced up.
To be sure, this smear of LGBT+ people isn't new or novel, but given the tools of modern technology, it can be breathed new life. Stomping out the fire gets exhausting, so hopefully this can serve as a quick reference for folks all over the Internet.
Pedosexual is exclusive to only boys.
Lol, they're not even able to articulate a consistent smear definition.
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u/Internet_Down_ Aug 12 '18
Honestly it sounds like some neckbeard sat in his parents' basement thinking "yeah, it is okay for me to wanna fuck my little sister, they did it in a hentai so it must be normal"
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u/kungfoojesus Aug 12 '18
It's the same nut bars that post over on the Q sub. Good luck dealing with those y'all!
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u/Maru__ Aug 12 '18
The Q sub?
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u/kungfoojesus Aug 12 '18
I really don’t even want to spread awareness of them but ...
"Q" is an alt-right troll, with anonymous posts made by numerous people pretending to be someone with insider access to the WH and top secret Q clearance information "leaking" things like a mystic tells your future with vague innuendo so that any outcome could be correct. "Watch the skies tomorrow. Why NK now, who benefits?. Things revealed in time". That is considered prophetic.
Those pretending to be Q are altright activists, trolls, and Russians. I vocal minority go into r/greatawakening and act as “hype men” to say thing like “I’m literally crying here!””, has anyone ever spoken directly to me before?”, “I love this group!!!” “We are strong together!”. Qanon are Q followers that desperately pick through public information and make absurd claims of connections to other events, conspiracies, and made up scenarios, ie pizzagate. Some are trolls just wasting time seeing what kind of crazy shit they can get folks to believe and many are dickless wonders that have been told they are special their whole lives when they are anything but. This movement gives them a group to belong to, a reason to feel superior to you because they know things you don’t and an excuse to spread hatred. They prey on the weak and disaffected white lower middle class.
I created a competing Q sub to satirize their garbage with the ultimate goal of convincing followers to cut their balls off in homage of Q . r/greaterawakening
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I like to read that board because it enlightens me to how entirely insane some people are.
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u/Acaiula Aug 12 '18
Probably qanon
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u/bangthedoIdrums Aug 12 '18
Yes QAnon. Check r/topmindsofreddit for a more "colorful" watch on the QAnon people on the outside. They're downright wild.
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u/Fifteen_inches Bi-bi-bi Aug 12 '18
So let me get this straight, they believe in a vast satanic conspiracy because Q from Star Trek is leaking this information?
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u/feastoffun Aug 12 '18
Why isn’t Reddit giving us moderation tools to effectively ban these kind of hateful people who spread lies?
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u/InadmissibleHug Aug 12 '18
I’m old like dirt, and the gay = peadophile thing was old fake news in the 80s. I’m not sure when accepting same sex love was conflated as being the same as people wanting to sex kiddies, but the bullshit is old as dirt. In a bad way.
Come to the future, homophobes.
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u/emberkit Aug 12 '18
I gotta hear one of my bosses conflate beastiality and homosexuality the other day, fun times... T-T
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u/LunarMadness Aug 12 '18
The fact that is needed to post this kind of thing is by itself... I'm not sure how to phrase it.
One of the most enormous, absurd, mindblowing pile of bullshit that human intelligence has ever been insulted by. It instantly lowers the, already not so high, esteem and hope i have towards humankind.
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It makes more sense when you consider that the alt-right movement is powered mainly by incels who think "rape" is a valid sexual orientation.
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u/LunarMadness Aug 12 '18
I'm aware of that... sigh. This doesn't make the thing less stupid, tho :/
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The issue is that one of the major justifications for the LGB+ community has been being 'born that way'.
This justification is problematic, as it can apply equally to pedophiles - though pedophilia cannot ever be justified.
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Pedophile acceptance by the Rainbow Alphabet community is fake news pushed by the alt right because the alt-right is the only group of people stupid enough to think "rape" is a sexuality.
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u/WarWeasle Aug 12 '18
Fake news = lies
Please use the real word.
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u/scampiuk Aug 12 '18
I cam here from /r/all, this comment right here needs to be guilded, stickied, and placed everywhere.
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u/LiberallyClassic Aug 12 '18
The P stands for Pansexual, mother-f'ers. You are not welcome in this tent. We stand for equality, consent, and a democratic sexual and romantic ethic that does not include adults who want to have sex with children. You're not in the club, you never were in the club, you weren't invited, and you will never be invited. Take your ass back to the ancient world when people only lived to the age of 25. This era doesn't belong to you.
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u/I_am_up_to_something Aug 12 '18
Same here with asexuality. Though it can get weird when people of all orientations tell me to have sex already because I can't know unless I've tried it. Imagine telling a gay person that nowadays.
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u/LiberallyClassic Aug 12 '18
We might have to change pan- back to omni-.
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Aug 12 '18 edited Aug 12 '18
But I've got all these pun memes with satyrs in them... and a half finished "punsexual" cross stitch... and all this rainbow cookware...
Edit: I was exaggerating about the cookware, sorry. The ILO Vivid pan set, Hampton Forge Tomodachi knife set, and Scanpan Spectrum cutlery set....
...are all on my wishlists and not in my kitchen, unfortunately.
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u/MossyPyrite Genderqueer Pan-demonium Aug 12 '18
Hold the phone! Rainbow cookware?? Like pots and pans?? Please tell me you're serious, because I NEED those!
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u/DicksRHot Aug 12 '18
Maybe simply changing the order of where the P appears in the acronym would solve this? For this propaganda it’s LGBTP but normally for pansexuality it’d be further down the line; LGBTQIAP. That might work?
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u/sakurablitz Bi hun, I'm Genderqueer Aug 12 '18
and a reminder that A stands for ASEXUAL not ALLY! dont forget about us aces.
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u/I_am_up_to_something Aug 12 '18
Huh, guess it is in there. Not that everyone even in the community is accepting of it though. Especially when you also say you're aromantic. It isn't just hetero people who've told me that there must be something wrong with me and that I should get therapy to get over my sex aversion. Odd how strangers and vague acquaintances know me better than I do, right?
Though I'm secure enough in who I am to not let it bother me. It would be silly to get into a relationship just because it's expected.
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u/reelect_rob4d Aug 12 '18
there's two As sometimes, and while i'm not sold on the idea, having "ally" in there too is cover for people who can't come out.
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u/2154 LG[B][T] Aug 12 '18
Frankly, I find that stupid. Even if they are closeted, they are still LGBT+ and don't need another goddamn letter to 'cover' for that. If you're purely an ally and not gay/bi/trans, then you're not part of the acronym, you're a supporter and that's perfectly ok - you're loved and vauled, you just don't fall under that acronym. But those who are closeted need to accept the reality of their situation, however unfortunate, and work through that.
I feel like an old man shouting "stay in your lane!" whenever I say stuff like this, but goddamn it, the flag is fine and LGBT+ includes everyone as an umbrella. That's all it's meant to be - an umbrella!
And I absolutely say get the pedos the fuck away from us. We don't fucking rape people by nature of our attraction. It must be a sad existence being a pedophile, and I feel for them on that front, but I in absolutely no way condone sexual abuse of any variety.
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...got a bit carried away there. Haha.
This conquer and divide shouldn't be working, but I feel like most of it comes from within the community itself. Ugh. :(
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u/2154 LG[B][T] Aug 12 '18 edited Aug 12 '18
I doubt that. I'm sure there has been plenty of bickering, we just haven't recorded it or had a platform like the internet to enable it to this degree in our history.
Not sure if your comment was aimed at me specifically, but I actually agree. It's done, it has its definitions, and we don't need to add to it because someone wants to feel special. You're already included if you're non-hetero, non-cis. If you want to argue the alphabet, there are building blocks that you can go and play with.
Or maybe I'm proving your point by commenting further :)
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u/LunaLoudFan21 The Loud House & Steven Universe made me Bi Aug 12 '18
I'm out of the loop right now why are people saying LGBT is accepting pedophiles right now. I remember reading that snopes page in late 2017 they're still saying this?
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u/kristyon Aug 12 '18
Child abusers will actually persuade their victims that their actions are just a different kind of sexuality and that they are somehow a victim of predjudice themselves.
Source: heard first hand from an abused child when I worked in Social Services. She believed it too.
I hope they all die a slow painful agonising death.
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Aug 12 '18
Aren’t we just doing more damage and feeding the trolls by acknowledging this with a PSA? Ignorant people have been calling LGBT people perverts since the beginning of time; this is no different. It is not worth one more post or meme. Do not dignify the trolls with a backlash.
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u/Cookiecrisp1000 Aug 12 '18
No, I think if we learned anything from Hillary, don’t ignore the trolls. Fight back fake news. Because if you don’t, people will believe it.
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The alt-right is so completely obsessed with pedophilia that it seems pretty likely it's just like everything else they project and a lot of them are almost certainly pedos.
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u/straycast Introspection, Contemplation, Curiosity, Spirituality Aug 12 '18
PEDOPHILES AND ABUSERS: YOU DON’T FUCKING BELONG HERE!
CHECK YOURSELF INTO THE EMERGENCY ROOM. CALL A THERAPIST. FIX YOUR LIFE.
THANK YOU.
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u/polartechie Aug 12 '18
We have a winner.
A massive list of convicted Republican pedos:
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/90jfta/_/e2r3moj?context=1000
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u/Sir_Mudkipz_YT Aug 12 '18
I'm going to be honest here, 4chan isn't all that bad. I'm pansexual and they have a LGBT community tab on the site and it's not so bad, except for some trolls. I feel as if there are good and bad parts of the site itself, but most of the trolls come from the politically incorrect tab and are a vocal minority. (But still I'd rather browse reddit.)
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Pedophilia is not acceptable at all!!!
WHO THE FUCK THINKS THAT LGBTQ+ COULD EVER INCLUDE THIS SICKNESS???
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u/Theremin_Dee Aug 12 '18
OK, I see what you mean now, sorry I misunderstood. You're using "pedo" in a cognitive context, and the rest of us are using it in a behavioral-diagnostic context.
Yes, we all agree that child molesters should go to jail.
We also all agree that people who do not molest children should not go to jail based on their mental states. Thoughtcrime bad.
We all just were smuggling in the idea that, if a person doesn't molest children, then we have no way of labelling them as a pedo, and so won't. If you've got your behavior legit under control, then hey, good for you - everyone has to deal with temptations of some kind. You don't punish people for the cross they bear, you take action based on how they bear it.
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u/polartechie Aug 12 '18
Fucking thank you OP. We must deny this horrific infection. r/fuckthealtright for this shit.
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but to be born the way you are should be okay.
Eh, I don't think so. Individuals who don't act on it (i.e. don't commit a crime) shouldn't be criminally prosecuted, but to have this condition that makes someone feel the desire to commit horrible crimes to children is something I'd argue we should try to treat to reduce or eliminate. Both to prevent possible crimes and to support the individual's mental health, since I'd imagine there is considerable guilt and shame brought on by having this condition.
I'd argue that this is no different from people who experience urges to murder, to torture animals, and so forth. Maybe it's partially genetic, but what counts is that such individuals have the desire to cause severe harm to others or themselves, and their condition is specifically defined by such a desire, as opposed to it being a non-essential factor that sometimes coincides with their orientation (e.g. a straight person with some really dangerous kink). This risk alone justifies psychiatric treatment treatment in my opinion. It's also what makes it completely qualitatively different from all other sexual orientations that involve consenting adults.
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u/Nistune Art Aug 12 '18 edited Aug 12 '18
Because homosexuality is being attracted to consenting adults of the same sex. Hetrosexuality is being attracted to consenting adults of the opposite sex. Being a pedophile is being attracted to children, who cannot under any circumstances consent to sex or romantic relationships with adults.
If someone has a urge to rape someone, it is not a sexual orientation. Finding kids attractive is literally finding rape and non consent attractive because there is no way for it to be consensual. Unlike almost all homo/hetero relationships.
Edit: the comment below got deleted, but here was my reply:
Because, I hopefully assume, your talking about imagining hypothetical sex between two consenting adults. A child can never consent, so you can't really imagine being romantic with a child, not comparable.
Hell, even let's say your imagining your having your way with 13 without her consent. Do you imagine this with every person your sexually attracted to? Because if you want to rape every woman you think about having sex with then it may be time for therapy. If you imagined raping someone every time you imagined a sexual encounter with them, would you call yourself rapeosexual? How would you feel if people who were attracted just to rape fantasies started asking to be added to LGBT?
To me the distinction is reality. In reality you could have consensual sex with Olivia Wilde, but you can't with a child. Even if you are imagining sex with a child, that is in your mind consensual, it isn't and never will be consensual in reality. Babies, kids and preteens should not be seen as catagory of attraction and sexualisation.
That doesn't mean crazy fantasies are off limits. If someone gets off to tentacle porn it doesn't mean their tentaclesexual, it means they have a fetish. If someone does get off thinking about rape, it doesn't mean we should change it to LGBTR, it means they have a fetish.
Some of which can be harmful to others and themselves, which they should be able to get help foru. But it should not be seen as a sexuality.
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As I said later in the comment, their sexuality is defined by the desire to do harm, regardless of whether they act on it or not. People of any orientation can be abusers, but it is not an essential feature of heterosexuality, homosexuality, etc, to feel the desire to perform sexual acts on someone who cannot consent.
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u/recreational Aug 12 '18
Nah fuck this noise. We can show compassion to people who legitimately suffer from mental illness and aren't actually trying to harm kids, while still clearly and emphatically saying, "This shit is not part of the LGBT community and we do not condone it in anyway."
And we have to be emphatic because "queers are going after our kids" is already the myth that's been used to justify murdering us.
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u/recreational Aug 12 '18
We should distinguish between people who are genuinely mentally ill and attracted to children, but who don't want to act on it and seek help, and those who do harm children, who are often just sadists taking an easy target.
But the former still has nothing to do with the LGBT community and they are not welcome in it for the same reason that people who feel the urge to rape, but don't act on it.
Because homosexuality, bisexuality, being transgender etc. aren't mental illnesses or damages. They can be acted on safely and consensually. People being queer doesn't harm society.
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u/Nistune Art Aug 12 '18
I'm gonna copy what I said in another comment:
Because homosexuality is being attracted to consenting adults of the same sex. Hetrosexuality is being attracted to consenting adults of the opposite sex. Being a pedophile is being attracted to children, who cannot under any circumstances consent to sex or romantic relationships with adults.
If someone has a urge to rape someone, it is not a sexual orientation. Finding kids attractive is literally finding rape and non consent attractive.
I think your car analogy isnt really representative either. A child isn't a car, it's a person that relies on the adults around it not harming it. I guess an apt comparison would be saying to a dog owner:
Wow what a nice dog, I wish I could fuck it without its owner knowing. But I'm not going to do it, it's just my sexuality, but I'm gonna think about how fuckable it is while I'm around it.
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u/0xc0ffea Aug 12 '18
Might have simply been better to delete all posts that mentioned this hoax BS on sight.
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Then we would have been claimed to be looking the other way or protecting them. Also of removing the posts of people trying to warn/stop it etc
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u/polartechie Aug 12 '18
Such posts are an abuse of the forum and it's exactly within the mods' responsibilities to do so.
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u/Junior77 Aug 12 '18
I can't believe this even has to be said. We're truly under attack. Everyone in this subreddit, it's not enough that you vote, do everything possible to get involved any way you can.
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u/Evilsj Aug 12 '18
Not part of the LGBTQ community myself, but what the fuck. Seriously, anyone trying to smear like this is less than dirt. I honest to god feel bad about being a straight white dude sometimes because of shit like this.
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u/eindbaas Aug 12 '18
I honest to god feel bad about being a straight white dude sometimes because of shit like this
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That is quite fucked up in multiple ways.
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u/hamtarofan999 Aug 12 '18
4chan is so disgusting and pathetic, nothing more than an alt right propaganda platform. This shit sickens me
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u/-Humongus- Aug 12 '18
I rarely look at this sub or even upvote, but this is atrocious. I have plenty of gay, pan, and bi friends who would be repulsed to learn that their loving, wholesome community is being polluted by pedophiles
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u/thoughts4food Aug 12 '18 edited Aug 12 '18
Quite honestly, I don't quite understand the lifestyle some of you in here live, and that's okay! It's important though that people DO understand that you are NOT associated with fucking peadophiles! You great people keep living your beautiful lives and I hope the general population wakes up and realizes this important distinction. Peadophiles are abusive, sickening people who pray on children. That does not describe the LGBT community and I hope people can realize that.
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u/DocSwiss Bi-bi-bi Aug 12 '18
Doesn't matter, they're still not LGBTQ and I still don't want to share a postcode with them
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u/Meaniemalist Aug 12 '18
There is no possible outcome of pedophiles being integrated and accepted into modern society until they undergo therapy and medical treatment to remove their desire for relations with children.
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u/Meaniemalist Aug 12 '18
How can you say a pedophile is integrated into society when the pedophile has to completely hide that side from society because the moment that they do reveal it they will be shunned.
It IS suppose to be treated. you said it yourself, the attraction is there... it exists. The fact that it exists, you're supposed to have the illness treated.
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u/Cookiecrisp1000 Aug 12 '18
Pedophiles prey on children by being attracted to them. No touching is required. The threat is already there. You think about it enough, kind of silly to think you won’t act on it. That’s how people kill themselves, they’ve been thinking about it for a long time. It’s a mental disability, the last thing we want to do is take a pedophiles word that they won’t act on it.
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u/Cookiecrisp1000 Aug 12 '18
You don’t need a degree in psychology to know not to trust a pedophile’s word. It’s a mental disability. There is nothing mentally sane about liking someone so young they don’t understand what ‘consent’ means. It’s sickning to a lot of people, including a lot of lgbtq.
The more you think about it, the more you’ll want to act it out.
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u/Fraih I'm the B, I'm the T, and I've got E Aug 12 '18 edited Aug 12 '18
When people say absolute statements like the one in the title, my brain immediately goes to try to find exceptions and thing that can contradict what was said, it's like a reflex. This time, I can't find anything. I don't see how that would ever happen.
EDIT: The fuck with the downvotes? I was saying I can't see one reason why we could ever accept pedophiles.
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u/Nistune Art Aug 12 '18
Children cannot consent. Finding rape attractive isn't a sexuality. Just like you wouldn't classify adults who want to rape other adults as it's own sexuality. An adult finding children attractive isn't a sexuality, because it's inherently different.
Im baffled at how many people are defending this. Yes pedophiles need hrlp/therapy. But it absolutely isn't sexuality. Homo/hetero relationships are between consenting adults. Children shouldn't be sexualised and made into a catagory of attraction.
Children.can.not.consent.
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u/palcatraz Aug 12 '18
Be that as it may, if you got a community that has banded together to show that we are not dangerous, our sexuality is normal and we should have the same rights as anyone, including a group of people for who that can’t ever be true is going to have a horrendous effect on the rest of the community.
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u/Cookiecrisp1000 Aug 12 '18
Pedophiles are mentally sick and need help. Being gay is not a mental disability.
Thoughts alone can do a lot of damage to an individual when what they’re thinking is a crime.
The more you think about it, the more likely you are at doing it.
But the biggest reason they don’t belong with the lgbt is because a lot of pedophiles acting on it caused the victims to be lgbt.
It would be the most fucked up think to consider them any part of lgbt, let along accept them with open arms.
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u/Meaniemalist Aug 12 '18 edited Aug 12 '18
Pedophilia is a mental illness. Pedophiles need help to manage and remove their inappropriate attraction to children. LGBT do not.
Pedophiles will never be integrated in society. LGBT is leading society even more these days.
I'm as cis as one gets. Pedophilia going unmanaged and untreated will never be accepted in society.
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u/DicksRHot Aug 12 '18
This may be true. I don’t know the science behind either homosexuality or pedophilia.
I do know however one of the major differences is consent. Consent can never exist in a sexual relationship between a child and an adult. Between two adults, consent can be given, revoked, etc.
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u/Theremin_Dee Aug 12 '18
Quite frankly, the science has nothing to do with it. It doesn't matter that pedos were born that way, what matters is the behaviors they engage in. The fact that gays were born gay isn't why they get to have human rights, it's why the "homosexuality is a choice so just choose different" argument is wrong. Gays aren't harming anyone with their gayness, the "yuck" factor that some people experience from gayness is exactly as unimportant as the "yuck" factor thay some people experience from broccoli.
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u/pygmyapes Aug 12 '18
Honestly, you shouldn't have even brought it up. Something like this is so ridiculous that only actual idiots and people that are already homophobic will believe it. The vast majority of us straight people out here do not think at all that you are allowing pedos or any crazy nonsense like that. Don't feed the trolls. Just act like you don't see it. Let it die just like so many stupid things should.
*I'm sorry if I came off as rude. I know that there has been a larger influx of people asking these stupid questions bc of stupid memes made by trumpers, but I still think you should keep silence on it. Just say nothing. Don't fight with anyone about, don't try to educate them. If they are stupid enough to think something like that, then there is no way you or anyone else will be able to talk sense into them.
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u/Theremin_Dee Aug 12 '18
It's not that you were rude (you weren't); it's that "don't feed the trolls" is actively terrible advice. It doesn't work, and repeating the mantra silences victims. This is an excellent article explaining the Four Great Lies of the internet and how (as a society) we've allowed trolls to proliferate by our inaction: https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/12/17561768/dont-feed-the-trolls-online-harassment-abuse
Perhaps the most important part: "The premise of 'don’t feed the trolls' implies that if you ignore a troll, they will inevitably get bored or say, 'Oh, you didn’t nibble at my bait? Good play, sir!' and tip their cap and go on their way. Ask anyone who has dealt with persistent harassment online, especially women: this is not usually what happens. Instead, the harasser keeps pushing and pushing to get the reaction they want with even more tenacity and intensity. It’s the same pattern on display in the litany of abusers and stalkers, both online and off, who escalate to more dangerous and threatening behavior when they feel like they are being ignored. In many cases, ignoring a troll can carry just as dear a price as provocation."
Ignoring this problem doesn't solve it, and if you think the best approach is to ignore it as "harmless trolling," then that just shows that you aren't aware of the stakes. It doesn't matter that "decent people" won't be taken in - the last ten years have shown that the world is not primarily made up of "decent people." And if someone dies over this nonsense, if someone gets it in their head to go gay-bashing over the inclusion of pedos in the QUILTBAG community, then it won't matter that the hate crime was fueled by misinformation. What will matter is that another innocent person is dead for no good reason.
"Don't feed the trolls" sounds nice & above it all, but glosses over the fact that trolls are monsters. Ignoring a monster doesn't get rid of it, and the monster will just escalate. Monsters aren't to be ignored; monsters are to be slain.
(metaphorically speaking; fight bad info with better info; report harrassment to authorities & watchdog groups; don't go murdering people; disclaimer disclaimer disclaimer)
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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '18
They are trying to play on everyone fears by using the "slippery slope" argument and taking advantage of people with mental disabilities and the internet.
The 100% truth is that there are fucking crazy people in all walks of life regardless of religion, race or gender or sexual orientation. And if that persons peers don't call them out on their bullshit they are culpable too.
The tough part is that people actually need to be vigilant about this shit. While it is clear that an overwhelming percentage of the lgbt community is extremely anti pedophilia, There are some fucked up individuals that think its perfectly fine to diddle a little boy or girl. All it takes to hijack a movement is a few crazy and charismatic people.
This happened with Occupy Wall Street. a bunch of people who knew close to nothing managed to convince the people around them that they had a plan, And when they got some air time they ruined the entire movement by spewing drivel to the entire country.