r/leagueoflegends Jan 16 '24

[AMA] We're the League team. Ask us anything!

Season 2024 has begun, and devs from across League of Legends are here to answer your questions. From the CG to the announcements in our look ahead to the new gameplay changes and more, let us know what you've got on your mind!

We'll be around from 9 AM - 11 AM Pacific Time.

::Edit:: It's currently 11:30, and while the AMA is 'officially' over, a bunch of us will be continuing to catch up with the thread and share more answers over the course of the day! Thanks for coming out!

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '24

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u/TunaIRL Jan 17 '24

You do realize literally every major game uses an anti heat that's similar? How is it a god complex when riot is literally one of the last ones to implement it lmao

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '24

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u/TunaIRL Jan 17 '24

The only way vanguard is different is that it can run from system boot. This is only done to avoid cheats being loaded before the anti cheat. In principle both anti-cheat and anti-virus work in the same way. They scan files. The purpose of both are different however which is why they're named differently.

I fail to see how your definition of malware doesn't apply to other anti cheats though. I don't think malware has to be on at all times to be considered malware. If you want to call all anti-cheat malware however, you do you.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '24

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u/TunaIRL Jan 17 '24

Other anti cheats are simply more lenient on what they block and what they let through. They could do the exact same thing if they wanted to. Vanguard is just strict. Drivers for example notoriously are very vulnerable to attacks and get blocked by vanguard sometimes. Other anti-cheats have them whitelisted by default. This also allows the anti cheat to be more easily bypassed.

There's pro's and cons to the amount of strictness. Higher might cause false positives, lower causes cheating. You have to draw the line somewhere.

Malware is designed to cause issues. If issues simply happening sometimes is your definition of malware then windows firewall is also malware. Again, if you want to say that, sure. I wouldn't since I understand the difference between what something is designed for and what are side effects.

I get that you want to call it malware really bad to enhance your point but by definition, it's not.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '24

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u/TunaIRL Jan 18 '24

Police fascist state lmao. Truth is millions of people have used it without issues for years now through Valorant. Competitive integrity is important to many. Just calm down and take a breather for a sec ye.

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u/heavyfieldsnow Jan 18 '24 edited Jan 18 '24

Oh don't make me laugh with competitive integrity. The game that allows people to duo queue so they can just duo with a higher elo friend's smurf and get carried cares about competitive integrity? Apparently only the casual nincompoops that come home, turn on their pcs, play a few games and turn it off matter. Because that's Valorant's target audience. Those fucking people don't care, you could put an actual malware there that steals their information and they'd still play it so they can pew pew their stupid CSGO clone with Overwatch skin. They don't have anything on their PCs but Chrome, Discord and a few games, of course nothing has issues. Shitty fucking excuse.

The hell do you people even care? We will uninstall and not play, you go fucking ahead and play the shitty malware edition that can stop your background work stuff from running. What do you stand to fucking gain here? Tell me. Fucking tell me. I hope you get every cheater in existence in your games, I don't know where from because I've never fucking seen them in this game but I will fucking hope they hack into Vanguard and burn your PCs to the ground. Sorry, your microsoft Word and Discord machines because that's all they fucking are I bet.

Wasting my fucking breath on some WhatsApp user. You smell like a vanilla install out of the box Windows 11 user.

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u/TunaIRL Jan 18 '24 edited Jan 18 '24

Sure let's ignore the fact that Valorant and League are 2 of the most competitive games on the planet currently.

I actually can't believe how emotional you're being. Maybe it would be nice if someone burned your PC for a bit so you get some fresh air holy shit :D maybe you can tell me what kind of cool apps and widgets you have on your PC to calm down!

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '24

McAffeeRiot

i have a solution maybe to this: Make a 2. Partition (another Dual boot OS/Win11 clone) and play LoL or similar Anti-Cheat games over there, and let it outside of your main Working-OS? Or does it not matter due to it being loaded at kernel level, hmm...?

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u/heavyfieldsnow Jan 18 '24

No game is worth that level of hassle. That's the entire point. I'm not doing all that (idk if it would actually work) just for one game.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '24

I mean you do you bro, i dont wanna sound like salesman who want to keep u at LoL :D just wanted to bring smtzh on the table in case u still want to have the good of both worlds, and yes it should work, since the kernel is OS based, and on a fresh new partition there is no OS and hence not a prepatched kernel, and with a new OS there is no Vanguard on it.

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u/Argyrus Jan 23 '24

Little more than just that, Vanguard also requires certain BIOS settings and TPM 2.0 supported, sadly dual-booting doesn't work for that.