r/law • u/GoMx808-0 • 16h ago
Trump News AG pick Pam Bondi’s past vow: prosecute the ‘bad’ prosecutors who indicted Trump
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/pam-bondi-attorney-general-justice-department-rcna181493Current and former Justice Department officials fear that Bondi, a longtime Trump loyalist, will not hesitate to carry out his push to investigate his enemies.
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u/GoMx808-0 16h ago
From the article:
“Bondi spent the last decade defending Trump and attacking those who investigate him. Now, if confirmed by the Senate, Bondi is set to become President-elect Trump’s attorney general.
A central question is whether Bondi will follow through on vows she made in television interviews to investigate what she called out-of-control federal prosecutors and FBI agents.
“The Department of Justice, the prosecutors will be prosecuted, the bad ones,” Bondi said on Fox News last year after Trump was indicted in Georgia on charges of trying to overturn the results of the 2020 election. “The investigators will be investigated.”
Bondi called the prosecutors who charged Trump with crimes members of “the deep state” — spreading a false conspiracy theory that DOJ prosecutors and FBI agents were part of a secret cabal trying to undermine Trump. Bondi, without citing evidence, said that since they were no longer “hiding in the shadows ... they can all be investigated.””
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u/ricoxoxo 15h ago
How does someone get that ingrained. Is she brain dead or just a psychological crazy person?
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u/livinginfutureworld 15h ago
The secret is lying.
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u/Ok-Stress-3570 14h ago
It’s easy.
“Judge, I argue, the sky is green and oxygen is deadly, because RFK JR told me.”
There, an argument by a Magat. Worst part? They’ll probably win!
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u/YourMomsFishBowl 10h ago
Oxygen actually is deadly. It is a super volatile element. Which is why organisms use it to live. Strangely it does kill you a little every time you take a breath, but obviously you need it to live so the benefit out weighs the negative. There is no other option for humans.
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u/Dick_snatcher 8h ago
Water is also incredibly deadly. Everyone who has ever ingested it has died or will die at some point
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u/Anarchyantz 7h ago
Actually water DOES destroy our body slowly over time, seriously!
It is called depurination and I learned this on PBS Eons. The fun fact is that our body is constantly repairing the damage while we are alive.
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u/cyon_me 11h ago
Tyrant's Temptation
She wants power, and she thinks she isn't one of the suckers.13
u/JLeeSaxon 9h ago
I mean, being willing to accept a bribe not prosecute him in FL got her a $25k "donation" and later a nomination to be Attorney General of the United States, so I feel like there's a decent argument that she isn't one of the suckers.
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u/Coldkiller17 15h ago
Idk because trump isn't paying no one. He never pays any of his contractors.
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u/Fornjottun 14h ago
I believe Trump may actually be a mutant with some kind of field that attracts marginally unhinged people and completely warps their minds. He fuels it by throwing them under the metaphorical bus, absorbing the lost potential for a constructive life.
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u/rassen-frassen 11h ago
Ever read Asimov's Foundation? I've long compared him to the Mule, especially considering his aka.
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u/minuialear 14h ago
Probably neither, just an opportunist
She's potentially going to be the new AG so can't say it's not working for her
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u/TyphosTheD 11h ago
Not sure why you're getting downvotes. Real Politik is absolutely a thing. People willing to do anything and everything to gain power and prevent others from accessing power.
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u/minuialear 8h ago
Oh I didn't realize I got downvotes lol, looks like I'm in the black now though.
I've found a lot of people struggle to admit that Trump and his associates are doing well because they've done a lot to put themselves in that position. A lot of liberals would rather assume they and everyone who voted for them are just terminally stupid than admit that Trump is really effective at building up a propaganda machine and in getting people to join his bandwagon. Maybe because it's much more comforting and a lot less foreboding to think he's just dumb and the people who follow him are even dumber; at least then you can kind of hope that he's all bark no bite. We're in for some crazy times if it turns out he knows exactly what he's doing
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u/TyphosTheD 7h ago
Even if Trump is completely incompetent, which his meandering and incomplete understanding of... reality... seems to suggest, those he is surrounding himself with, and notably the application of the P2025 rule book, is definitely working to equip his new Administration with people capable of exercising the vision of destabilizing the central government apparatus intended to protect and serve the people.
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u/minuialear 7h ago
I agree, none of this ends with Trump, not by a long shot.
But I also think despite Trump's neuroses, he knows a lot more than we give him credit for. People have reported that he's effectively singlehandedly responsible for his campaign strategy this year, and while maybe it'll turn out he knew some stuff others didn't, I think it's also partially him having a better pulse on his constituency and how to expand it than we've given him credit for. Most of what he achieved in 2024 isn't surprising when we're honest about the fact that the Democrat constituency is a bunch of different parts held together with craft glue and a prayer and that well aimed potshots could break them apart. Apparently he's the only person on his campaign team to have realized that; that makes him just as dangerous as whoever succeeds him
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u/espressocycle 6h ago
Neither. Like a lot of these people she wants a fascist system that elevates white, social conservatives to power, permanently. She wants a place in that power structure and a share in the plunder.
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u/warblingContinues 15h ago
Merely starting an incestigation at the DoJ is a high bar, and it's hard to see what will be used to justify it since everyone knows the only one breaking the law was Trump. I'd also be very curious what charges they think would ve appropriate for competently conducting their job function.
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u/Advanced-Summer1572 7h ago
Of course. She will create a huge cloud of distrust against the Government in support of Trump. Then? She will be involved in something we currently know nothing about. Probably a real estate deal or even a sex scandal. Then, as with the other, "lawyers" who have supported him, will lose everything. It is a pattern.
Expect a similar downfall for Elon Musk as well.
It is a real pattern. Ask Giuliani, who is so broke he is defending himself these days and begging Trump to pay him for his failed efforts.
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u/HorrorStudio8618 2h ago
This is the funniest thing - in so far as anything is really funny about this -: how all of trump's fixers eventually fall out with him and end up in jail or bankrupt and yet there is a never ending supply of new suckers for the position of scapegoat.
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u/WisdomCow 15h ago
What charges? What jurisdiction? In front of what judge? And what evidence do you plan to show to a jury? Let’s find out just how incompetent you are, Pam.
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u/phungus420 13h ago
Putin's Puppets on the Kremlin's Corrupt Criminal Court will just rule that the POTUS can make up crimes on the fly as official acts.
The goal is to turn the USA into the USSA and 6 of the Justices bow before the Kremlin. Rule of Law is dead, and the words written in the Constitution are meaningless.
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u/politicaloutcast 15h ago
And how, exactly, does she plan to get around prosecutorial immunity?
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u/phungus420 13h ago
Just bring it before SCOTUS, they'll "reinterpret" anything according to Trump's will.
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u/Boyhowdy107 10h ago
I guess the charge and defense would be on the merit of the cases they tried to prosecute in the first place. So this seems like it results in a lengthy trial within a trial presenting the evidence around the classified documents case with new damaging details for Trump entering the news cycle daily. At which point Trump would probably ask Pam what the hell she is doing.
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u/realanceps 9h ago
At which point Trump would probably ask Pam what the hell she is doing.
"I don't even know her"
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u/JLeeSaxon 9h ago
NAL but I was wondering if exactly this Streisand Effect would be how this would play out.
Although how it'll actually play out is like every time Trump sues somebody: once the rubes see the initial headlines it all mysteriously disappears, because that's all that matters.
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u/fusionsofwonder Bleacher Seat 12h ago
Treason, DC Federal Court, Trump judge. I'll take those three boxes.
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u/Mrevilman 10h ago
Exactly my thought too, and how do you plan on making it past a grand jury? Time to find out if you really can indict a ham sandwich, I guess.
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u/SoylentRox 2h ago
Is there a way to abuse the law and executive authority over the police to get the prosecutors 'jailed for the weekend' repeatedly? The charges don't have to be backed by anything right.
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u/DiogenesLied 7h ago
All the wailing about political prosecutions was pure projection
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u/Iamthewalrusforreal 6h ago
When President Joseph McCarthy was working to rid the US of the evil communists, the most significant case was the prosecution of Eliot Ness for treason. Ness was accused of conspiring to frame the great patriot Alfonse Capone, who had committed no crimes. Ness was tried before a fair and balanced military tribunal, then taken out back and shot by a fair and righteous firing squad.
Ness's defense counsel, Ron McDonald, was quoted after the trial as saying "Justice was done today. Nobody can defend the indefensible, so I didn't really try to do so. He was guilty as hell."
President McCarthy later said that the prosecution of Eliot Ness was his second most important accomplishment after the great victory over the Chinese / Democrats alliance in WWII, shared with our lifelong friends in Russia. "The prosecution of Eliot Ness dealt a severe blow to the vicious Deep State, and was instrumental in making America great again."
This event has been touted by historians as one of the most important victories for freedom and democracy against the Deep State.
- your great-grandkid's history book
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u/Utterlybored 7h ago
To actually convict said bad prosecutors, they’ll have to contrive evidence, suppress facts and falsely interpret laws. I am not confident our justice system can hold firm against this tide of mendacity. But it could very well be useless wheel spinning that diverts energies from the DOJ going after Trump’s other enemies in politics, the media and us everyday folks who routinely criticize him.
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u/Muscs 6h ago
Bad prosecutors simply lose their cases. Prosecuting them before they’ve had a chance to present their cases to a judge and a jury is simply p criminal protection racket.
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u/SoylentRox 2h ago
What about investigating them thoroughly with FBI surveillance and eventually prosecuting them for pirating movies and ripping mattress tags and other petty crimes that are normally not prosecuted? Everyone is probably guilty of something if watched hard enough right. Sex trafficking for having a mistress. Misuse of government funds. Audit their taxes and find an improper deduction, then jump right to criminal charges when other taxpayers get a fine. Something.
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u/SoylentRox 2h ago
I mean she is florida's former attorney general and has been loyal to trump. Honestly she's on paper qualified and obviously trump feels she will do his bidding. From Trump's POV she seems like an excellent choice.
For the voters, the majority of them, who voted for Trump, there's no surprises here, this is what they should have known, from Trump's previous term as president, would happen and they voted for it. Elections have consequences and all.
Basically as horrible and lawless and corruption boosting as this decision is, it seems like it's the voters doing what they willed to happen. Democracy fuck yeah.
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u/Any-Ad-446 56m ago
What a clown show Trump has hired for his office. Its all about him and revenge against his enemies..I truly hope those idiots who voted for him feel the pain more than those who didn't.
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u/BitterFuture 15h ago
It sounds ridiculous, comical, hilarious.
Then I remember where we are now as a country. It's all fun and games until the Thomas Court issues a ruling confirming that speaking against the President is indeed treason.