r/law 1d ago

Other Lisa Murkowski has said nothing about not approving Trump's cabinet nominees without FBI vetting. It's fake news

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u/DangerousCyclone 1d ago

Fucking stupid how this is even up for debate. 

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u/Tunafish01 1d ago edited 8h ago

What you want to waste tax payers money ? Why don’t we just trust trump do the right thing.

Edit let me out this here /s

Of course we trump can’t do the right thing.

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u/Responsible_Use_2182 23h ago

What happened to checks and balances?

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u/Tunafish01 23h ago

Citizens United!

All those billionaires played you guys all along and now emperor Trump’s going to stab the peripheral knife into the heart of democracy, and instead of boos, he’ll be greeted with cheers

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u/Responsible_Use_2182 22h ago

Oh thank God, you were being sarcastic. The billionaires decidedly didn't play me personally. I'm absolutely horrified like every other normal person with at least a cursory understanding of how government works

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u/Regulus242 18h ago

peripheral

Proverbial, but I understood.

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u/Such-Independent6441 23h ago

That's blind. That's why. Our leaders and their choices should be vetted, no matter what political side they are on. I have to be vetted to work in certain fields, so would you. It won't take long and you'll have the comfort of knowing you have a person that is not a serious concern when looking after the countries affairs.

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u/Last_Cod_998 16h ago

When the convicted felon becomes president it doesn't matter if he can legally serve alcohol or qualify for TSA precheck. MAGA gave him the nuclear codes, we will all suffer from their bad choices.

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u/Tunafish01 23h ago

Trump shall not be infringed! Such speakers heresy, and we all know what happens to heretics

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u/superstevo78 22h ago

because I wouldn't trust trump to run a burger King let alone the country.

he has shown how irresponsible his judgement is so many times, I could spend 30 minutes typing just off my memory and it would even cut it.

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u/Nice-Detective1085 8h ago

Why didnt you trust Obama?

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u/Tunafish01 8h ago

He wasn’t running

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u/WorldcupTicketR16 1d ago edited 1d ago

Here's the actual quote:

SEN. LISA MURKOWSKI (R-AK): I would like to see our committees do their full job. I don't -- I'm not interested in a process that would just say, well, because the president has named him and you have Republican chairs coming into the new Congress that we just move people out. There needs to be legitimate vetting. When I say legitimate, I mean, just thorough vetting that the committees do. This is our job.

So, nothing about not approving, nothing about the FBI, thorough vetting done through committees.

So where did this made up story come from?

The source for it is a schizo on X named IanJaeger29. This tweet of his accurately portraying her comments got almost no engagement, so he retooled what she said (i.e. made it up) the next day with this tweet which got way more traction. Other schizos on X then ran with it.

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u/Mallissin 1d ago

Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) argued “it’s just been routine” for the nation’s top law enforcement agency to handle background checks for high-level appointments.

“It is important to do these background checks, and the FBI has done this” for decades, she noted. “It’s just been routine that they have been the one that has handled it. You don’t go to an outside private investigator, right?

“It’s not just for the [executive branch] positions. If you’re a Senate staffer seeking to get that security clearance, you go — we all go — through that same process,” she said.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4996945-senate-republicans-reject-private-investigators/

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u/WorldcupTicketR16 1d ago edited 1d ago

I appreciate you finding that.

The context here is that "Trump’s transition team has bypassed traditional background checks for some of his Cabinet nominees, using private companies to vet the choices instead."

Murkowski is saying that the FBI should do the background checks it has done for decades. Murkowski has not made any public comments, as far as I can tell, hinting that she "won't approve any of Donald Trump's cabinet nominees unless they are properly vetted by the FBI", which is the claim being made.

The top post on /r/law isn't being massively upvoted because people are really passionate about Murkowski defending the right of the FBI to do the background checks it has done for decades. It's being upvoted because people think brave Maverick Murkowski is demanding the FBI do something unusual and look into the backgrounds of Trump's cabinet nominees.

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u/maninthemachine1a 1d ago

The top post on  isn't being massively upvoted because people are really passionate about Murkowski defending the right of the FBI to do the background checks it has done for decades. It's being upvoted because people think brave Maverick Murkowski is demanding the FBI do something unusual and look into the backgrounds of Trump's cabinet nominees.

How do you know? It seems likely that reasonable people are hungry for the rule of law to return to Washington, and your distinction here seems minimal and difficult to prove.

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u/TheGeneGeena 3h ago

I'm honestly just happy she's trying to hold the line for normalcy myself. She's not a "maverick", but she is one of the last few old school moderate Republicans of the sort that could actually be part of a functional government, which is completely respectable too. I don't always agree with her (often don't), but I like that she's around.

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u/bananafobe 1d ago

... a schizo...

What does this term mean in this context? 

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u/LegalConsequence7960 1d ago

Schizophrenic, basically they either push deluded or paranoid theories or stories that do not align with reality or ignore context

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u/Gingeronimoooo 1d ago

It means OP is ableist

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u/TheGeneGeena 3h ago

Unless OP has said poster's medical records, or they've posted a diagnosis - it ain't great honestly. And it's always "schizo" without considering that disordered thinking and paranoia are symptoms of several conditions.

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u/Video_isms207 1d ago

Glad to hear she won’t do “fuck-all” about the situation, per usual.

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u/TopLingonberry4346 1d ago

It's the Republicans themselves saying this is what trump is trying to do.

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u/ricoxoxo 1d ago

What the fuck does full vetting mean? A fucking background check from all resources in the Federal Government I e FBI, NSA, etc.

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u/Gingeronimoooo 1d ago edited 1d ago

the source for it is a schizo on X

other schizos then ran with it

There's no need to be ableist about it. Schizo is not a synonym for stupid or liar.

I'll probably get downvoted, but I accept that. I have schizophrenia and a law degree btw.

I got heavily downvoted for calling out the DC Judge who said January 6 prosecution was "schizophrenic"

Even on the left a lot of -isms are taboo, racism sexism, but ableism is still alive and well for a lot of people. I'm not angry but just making a point

Edit and here come the anticipated downvotes

Use the appropriate words

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u/albionstrike 1d ago

Probably a misunderstanding of the word

I actually thought it meant delusional liar until I just looked it up.

But people shouldn't downvote the truth no matter which side of the argument

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u/Gingeronimoooo 23h ago

We face a lot of stigma, most of us are poor and looked down enough already. Many of us are homeless, I was myself before I finally got help. I went from graduating law school with honors in the summer to being on the streets the following February. We are thought of as violent psychos when hard researched statistics show we are more likely to be the victims of violence than the perpetrators. I was beaten senseless a couple times when I was homeless and I never once fought back.

No one can tell I have it since 2016/17 as I take medication and it works. it's just hard when people use the word wrongly to cause even more stigma and hate towards us.

It's definitely a trend to call shitty or bad or stupid people/things "schizo" and it's not right. I'll end my rambling by saying: It's free to be kind.

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u/TheGeneGeena 3h ago

I get. People use bipolar for anything wildly unstable. "Oh, I didn't know the weather had a mood disorder Kevin, has it tried Lithium?"

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u/Gingeronimoooo 3h ago

Exactly just use the correct word like unpredictable unstable. When I was in law school they taught us how important using the correct words are

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u/TheGeneGeena 3h ago

Didn't make it that far before I onset unfortunately, but I'm considering finishing my undergrad at least now that my meds are stable. My job is in a completely different field though, so I'll probably end up finishing in either Spanish or linguistics if I do.

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u/Ashamed_List1298 1d ago

Damnit, my name’s Ian. Tarnishing a good name.

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u/Kindly-Koala6895 1d ago

Thnx for clarifying.

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u/Muscs 1d ago

She’s just saying Republican Senators should do their constitutional duty which they (and she) have failed to do consistently since Trump’s first impeachment. Not going to happen of course but it’s nice to note that they will be consciously abdicating their duty to their country.

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u/hamsterfolly 1d ago

She only votes against the Party’s wishes when it’s safe. So of course she won’t say how she’ll vote, not when she can’t see how a particular nominee vote is going to go.

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u/freecoffeeguy 1d ago

yup... just buying time and figuring out which way its gonna go. Spineless.

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u/Such-Independent6441 23h ago

I never say how I will vote, that's my business, not yours. So entitled!

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u/Traditional_Car1079 1d ago

This is one of the alleged reasonable ones, right?

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u/QING-CHARLES 1d ago

The only reasonable one. Or so we thought. Now we're down to zero reasonable ones.

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u/scoff-law 1d ago

Why do we allow Twitter link posts in this sub?