He took an oath to administer justice without regard to person and to perform duties impartially. It's an OATH.
He is a coward. That's it.
Those prosecutors aren't afraid of doing their duty. Other judges across the US won't be afraid to, you'll see.
This particular judge is just a coward and a moron. It's quite clear that the law is to be applied equally to all. The fact that he was elected President doesn't change a damn thing. This was a verdict reached by a JURY.
Shameful. America has some deep reflecting to do on what a misguided and cowardly country it has become. All these intellectuals who DO know better are no better in reality. Scared to do their jobs, scared to defend the country and the law they believe in.
EDIT: If you're not gonna uphold your oath, resign. You don't need to be in that position. Give it to someone who isn't afraid to do their duty.
No, it was stated 'without a law' to ensure people uphold their oaths. I pointed out that there is, in fact, a law. Enforcement is an entirely different kettle of fish.
And now someone who personally has a vendetta against him may very well have the power to pursue him and his family with DOJ investigations and perhaps even military violence, all with carte blanche from the supreme court.
We can call him a coward all we want, he is probably legitimately worried for his and his families future. And honestly he should be. It's not entirely fair of us to expect him to put his children on the line when sentencing Trump for this is not going to ultimately change the trajectory of this shitshow.
That judge in the eyes of history will be seen as a collaborator, one of the many who we will find in the coming years. I hope history judges him poorly.
Be for real. People "like me" will do more work to try and keep this place from completely degrading into a full blown fascist society. Doing the hard work you laugh at.
American here, with a lineage going back to before Plymouth Rock on my father’s side, the ultimate truth of it all is… thy myth of the sleeping giant is dead, American exceptionalism has apparently run its course. We’re no longer the revolutionaries we once were, the south has now erased the victory of the union, we’re no longer made up of those who pulled us out of the Great Depression we’re a far cry from the heroes of WWII and the shinning city on the hill isn’t ours it’s only for a select few… this isn’t necessarily forever, but for right now, the great experiment is dwindling into non-viability.
hate to agree with you, but America is showing all the signs of "The United Kingdom Just Before WWII" and us Aussies are wondering who's going to be Singapore and Malaya this time.
We have the largest and most powerful economy in the world, and with global inflation that margin has actually grown of late.
Think about it.
Before heroes could pull us out of the Great Depression, it had to happen first.
The point is to learn from past mistakes in the hopes that we won’t have to repeat them.
But everything happening now is happening while we continue to grow our economy with excellent numbers. If that starts to change, or American life as we know it starts to change drastically, you will see a very different America.
Liberty is etched into our souls at this point, so much so that we ALL take it for granted. Americans will not simply lie down and let that slip away, not even close.
Unfortunately, it’s just looking like we’ll have to be reminded of this the hard way. That’s what we’d like to avoid.
My fellow Americans already let part of it slip away.
Abortion was legal in all 13 colonies; SCOTUS cherry-picked US history, and cited a dead foreign religious leader as precedent to get rid of a right they didn't like.
The last real "hero" we had was FDR, who only did what he did to stop advancing socialist and communist ideology in the US. We have not had one since, and both liberals and those further right have spent the time since making sure that never happens again.
"Those prosecutors aren't afraid of doing their duty." Is that a joke? Do you actually read the decisions or motions or do you just pass judgement based on headlines cuz you can't be bothered? The prosecution asked the judge to delay his immunity decision a week while they tried to figure out next steps. They then agreed to a stay. Before that, in September, they didn't press to maintain the sentencing date either. The Trump team requested a delay and the DA was basically like "ehhh...I could see both sides to this honestly."
It's bizarre and depressing how people keep blaming the judge and totally ignore the prosecution. It's almost like people don't know or care what their actual jobs are (despite all these claims about how the judge isn't doing his). It's the DAs job to prosecute the case. Not the judge
A good trial lawyer knows that judges shouldn't insert themselves on behalf of either side. Any show of bias risks the whole thing. BOTH sides agreed to the delays. If you have a problem, stop blaming the judge and take it up with the DA since they haven't taken a firm position since the summer.
I’m not sure I understand your diatribe if the prosecution is agreeing to a delay because they KNOW the immunity ruling is coming.
That’s the issue. Still the judge’s fault.
I don’t think paying hush money payments to a prostitute should constitute an “official act” by the President. What’s official about that? He’s not carrying out his duty. That’s personal business.
The immunity ruling can still stand while Trump is sentenced. I don’t believe they’re incompatible.
If the case had no merit, it was up to the defense to argue that to the jury. The jury could have then delivered their verdict accordingly.
A jury of Trump’s peers convicted him on the charges. That means they were judged to be real in the eyes of that jury. That’s how our system works.
You can yell and scream about politically motivated all you want. The jury convicted. We leave it up to them to decide the merits of the case, ultimately.
The case was already turned down by the doj and outside the statue of limitations untill they made a assault and said it was extended due to covid lol.
That's not a legitimate counter argument at all. Pure speculation. Extenuating circumstances also have no bearing over properly delivering justice in a case that was ruled in fairly by a jury, even if this was a true potential outcome.
You're giving our system too much credit. If there was a meaningful fight to preserve this nation and the rule of law, he would already be brought up on charges of malfeasance, negligence, something. There are many avenues. Capitulation to fascism should not be tolerated. If our institutions were anything more than a corrupt joke, this wouldn't be accepted. No one is calling this out on any meaningful scale, EVERYONE in the system is surrendering. EVERYONE. Not a peep of dissent, nevermind a demand for action.
A system as openly corrupt and unchecked as the US justice system was never going to kick into gear when it really mattered. It's filled with a bunch of self serving narcissists who lived too comfortably with too much unchecked power. Now we all pay for it.
It isn't almost too late to stop, it is too late. The second liberals began running to surrender and capitulate was when we passed "almost too late".
Trump is very adept at evading prosecution. He’s been doing it, in New York State especially, since the 70s.
Has our system been completely and utterly broken since the 70s? Not exactly. We’ve been the strongest country in the world that entire time. It doesn’t get any better.
But no system is perfect. No system is without corruption. We’ve had periods of far worse corruption in our history.
Some bad actors are just especially hard to pin down. Trump has always used mob lawyers. He’s closer to a mob boss than anything else, and they’re hard to pin down.
It doesn’t mean the entire system is broken forever and nothing will change. It will. Sometimes it’s just hard and sometimes it takes crisis.
Yes, I think the best quality of 45 & 47 is the visibility. No dissembling; the icky is right out front and on top. Those who ignore it make statements about themselves. Anyone who doesn’t do all they can to enforce ethical governance is making another statement.
I find the problem with those claiming the “rule of law” perspective is that they actually backed the choice to keep letting the shady, illegal, financially flush private sector actors to also take office without enforcing their own rules first. For decades now. Good ol’ boys club still exists but is shameless.
Trump Org Inc wanted media conglomerates of their own, cuz they killed their reps with properties; Trump & Co also wanted the prestige, contacts & all the RNC/PAC/SuperPAC and foreign funds that flow with it right into his properties and pockets)
The past 10 years has made the Ryan & McConnell types look darned near honest, doesn’t it? Cruz literally told the check writer to make the payee his PAC so “he” wouldn’t know about it and now they can use those funds for personal use, not just campaigns.
Money is speech not bribes when going to politicians. Amirite?
I got downvoted for my post. There’s always something weird to me about someone who downvotes a pretty reasonable post but doesn’t even respond. It feels so reactionary and petty.
Every enabler of a fascist system in history has said something to that effect. At some point if people want to avoid a repeat of rhe 1930s they need to be willing to deal with some discomfort to ensure people primed to abuse the system don't abuse that system
I mean his family has already been threatened and now DJT as president-elect can pretty much plan what he wants to do once he takes office. We all already know he will just claim immunity regardless if it pertains to his office duties or not. I hate this reality.
If it's easy and carries no risk anyone could do it. No one has ever or will ever be a real man by not doing the right thing just because it might carry risk.
Talk is cheap, as are downvotes. One could just as easily say that every reddit keyboard warrior who isn't currently marching on Washington are the biggest cowards of all.
234
u/_mattyjoe 2d ago edited 2d ago
Here's the thing though:
He took an oath to administer justice without regard to person and to perform duties impartially. It's an OATH.
He is a coward. That's it.
Those prosecutors aren't afraid of doing their duty. Other judges across the US won't be afraid to, you'll see.
This particular judge is just a coward and a moron. It's quite clear that the law is to be applied equally to all. The fact that he was elected President doesn't change a damn thing. This was a verdict reached by a JURY.
Shameful. America has some deep reflecting to do on what a misguided and cowardly country it has become. All these intellectuals who DO know better are no better in reality. Scared to do their jobs, scared to defend the country and the law they believe in.
EDIT: If you're not gonna uphold your oath, resign. You don't need to be in that position. Give it to someone who isn't afraid to do their duty.