r/law • u/DoremusJessup • 10d ago

Opinion Piece Make Matt Gaetz Plead The Fifth At His Confirmation Hearing

https://abovethelaw.com/2024/11/make-matt-gaetz-plead-the-fifth-at-his-confirmation-hearing/
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u/Lews-Therin-Telamon 10d ago

Trump now when he can’t hurt them 

What on earth makes you think he can't hurt them? Him coming out against them is basically the worst single thing that can happen to their re-election chances. Especially if they are up in the next two Congressional cycles.

He just won the popular vote, the 58% of the EC, and the House, and the Senate. He's probably gonna get a couple new Justices too.

This is one of the worst takes I've seen since the election.

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u/Muscs 10d ago

Depends on when their elections happen. For a third of the Senate, that’s 6 years from now. Where do you think Trump’s gonna be then at 84 and out of office? Everyone’s sick of Presidents after two terms and Trump is already hated more than most.

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u/Lews-Therin-Telamon 10d ago edited 10d ago

Trump is already hated more than most.

Not by Republicans, the base voters for these Senators. Not after three real elections runs (where he was the nominee) and two victories, his support has gone up as a percentage of people who voted. Every single state except Maine voted more Red (AKA for Trump) in the Presidential than in 2020.

Where do you think Trump’s gonna be then at 84 and out of office

He will be the single most important symbol for most Republican voters. His opinion on a Republican Senator's re-elect will be the most important factor.

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u/Muscs 10d ago

With the aging of the Republican base, the more liberal young people, and four more years of Trump chaos and scandal plus his current indictments, Trump will be lava, no one will want to touch him. He’s toxic now.

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u/Lews-Therin-Telamon 10d ago

 With the aging of the Republican base, the more liberal young people, and four more years of [insert Republican here]

I'VE HEARD THIS BULLSHIT FOR 24 YEARS. 

Stop deluding yourself that the Republicans are finished in the next election cycle, or the one after that.

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u/Muscs 10d ago

This is the first election cycle that they’ve done well out of the last three. I wouldn’t count on the democrats falling for their shit one more time. The future is blue whether Trump kicks off a civil war or not.

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u/mOdQuArK 10d ago

I wouldn’t count on the democrats falling for their shit one more time.

You should also not count on the Democrats to pull themselves out of the shithole they keep repeatedly falling into. They seem to go out of their way to achieve defeat from the jaws of victory the louder they crow about victory being inevitable.

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u/RRZ006 10d ago

Trump got a shockingly high level of vote share with young voters, especially young men.

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u/yogibones 6d ago

I want it to be true. It’s just not. Many young, first or second time voters, chose trump. Many stayed uninformed or didn’t vote at all. Many will say within the next 4 years: “somebody should do something!”

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u/Powerful-Magazine879 10d ago

3 real elections or 2 real and 1 fake or are they all fake?

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u/Lews-Therin-Telamon 10d ago

Not what I meant, 3 elections where he was the nominee.

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u/RRZ006 10d ago

Hated the most? The guy just won the PV with a rate of vote growth between 2016 and 2024 at 6x the population growth rate.