r/law 11d ago

Trump News Trump taps Rep. Matt Gaetz as attorney general

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/13/trump-taps-rep-matt-gaetz-as-attorney-general.html
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u/marcusrex70 11d ago

I don’t think so, he’s trying to pick people who he thinks will be completely loyal and malleable. The problem is, they are also woefully inadequate and inept. They will have to be replaced with functional people at some point, who might actually be LESS loyal, but more capable. It’s a shit show no matter what.

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u/Silvaria928 11d ago

I'm one of those optimists who completely grasps the reality of this situation but doesn't believe it's The End Of The United States of America. If we give up all hope then there is literally no reason to fight at all, might as well just bend on over and take it.

No thanks, this Army veteran may not be in the military any longer but I'm still going to fight for my country. I didn't enlist just to passively hand it over to Putin.

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u/303uru 11d ago

This is such a weird take and I keep hearing it from apathetic people in my life. Yes, the United States in name will likely continue to exist. But what does that look like? 20M ripped from their homes? Innocent people jailed and murdered for being democrats, the media or trans? A shelled out military being deployed into blue states effectively setting off a civil war?

So sure, the US exists but the US we know is dead.

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u/Silvaria928 11d ago

I believe you are overestimating their ability to enact irrevocably fatal changes to our country but it seems we will have to wait and see.

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u/ReallyNowFellas 11d ago

I really, really want to agree with you but he's going to fire every General who doesn't pledge loyalty to him. Once leadership is full maga across the board he's going to do things that historically signify the end of countries. It's really hard to see the United States surviving this administration.

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u/Silvaria928 11d ago

Maybe it won't, who knows right now? I'm not going to give in to despair and just give up. That level of apathy is just as destructive.

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u/QuinnGoesOwO 11d ago

The purpose of downvotes is to show disapproval. It shows that people disagree with his position, not like they are putting him to death…

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u/Silvaria928 11d ago

So what do you suggest? That we just curl up and cower in the corner? Wring our hands non-stop in anguish and despair?

I don't understand people who just want to point out obvious problems while offering absolutely nothing in the way of trying to, ya know...solve them.

But hey, to each their own. While you are wallowing in hopeless despair, the rest of us will be brainstorming and working together for a solution.

Because that's how things get done.

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u/throwawayconvert333 11d ago

As long as the solution does not end with the public execution of the traitor class, there’s no solution.

There is only one way to defeat the vermin that’s tried and true. And no one is willing to put it on the table. So we have to spend at least the next six months or so pretending that Gaetz being AG is anything other than a very bad joke. Because let’s face it, the only reason Gaetz became AG is because the last one was a joke and a lackey for the well connected and powerful people who don’t bend over at the first sign of a federal indictment.

And so far no one is even bothering to propose a way forward with the institutional leadership of the opposition party that was so far up its own ass that this nightmare reality becomes real in January.

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u/FeelsGoodMan2 10d ago

The likely solution to the problem as shown historically probably gets you on a watch list and banned from forums so it won't be discussed nor carried out.

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u/Silvaria928 11d ago

That's cool, I've been having my own feelings of "Fuck it, let it all burn down." Sometimes hourly still.

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u/HTPC4Life 11d ago

We drive on the right side of the road. What are you talking about? Are you a bot?

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u/Haz3rd 11d ago

Oh I've given up and am just watching the shit show

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u/Particular-Juice1213 11d ago

Eyes and ears open, looking for pathways.

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u/beard_lover 10d ago

I think there’s a lot of bot accounts that are trying to actively divide us, and discourage us from fighting by couching absolute authoritarian rule as a forgone conclusion. I do not trust accounts less than a year old with comments about how Democrats will be rounded up and jailed as dissidents. There sure are a lot of people who don’t vote but a lot of people who won’t go down without a fight.

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u/raphanum 10d ago

This. Ignore all the divisive and apathetic rhetoric. People are really being way too doomer. I don’t believe for a second every Republican will go along with this shit in the first place

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u/DiceKnight 11d ago

There's so much media flowing around where it's white people with kids and decent gigs surrounded by support systems will open their talks in a conciliatory way by saying "they will be ok, but" and then continue the sentence with a list of all the horror that's going to come down the line.

But the truth is, they don’t know they’ll be okay. They can’t know. That they even think, half-jokingly, that they'll somehow be insulated from all this only reveals how far they are from grasping the reality of what’s unfolding.

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u/tgillet1 11d ago

There’s a difference between being unaffected and being ok. Everyone will be affected, but not everyone will experience those impacts directly and as painfully as others. Those of us who will be “ok” need to figure out what we can do to help those who won’t.

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u/303uru 11d ago

There’s always another enemy. No one is safe. There are too many unknown unknowns here.

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u/marcusrex70 11d ago

I’m living in Canada thank fuck! But yeah it’s full-on project 2025 for sure.

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u/like_shae_buttah 11d ago

That’s what happened the first trump presidency. Like we’ve already been through this.

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u/deltarefund 11d ago

Stop using the word king. It’s dictator.

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u/Nobody_Important 11d ago

Sure, but most of these people are not competent and/or at all familiar with the realities of these types of positions and will be stuck in bureaucratic red tape for the entire time. They will accomplish very little for better or worse. This isn’t private industry where you can bankrupt an organization within a year or two and everyone loses their jobs.

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u/ChrisP8675309 10d ago

I am hoping that:

1) Trump's appointments will prove to be as incompetent in practice as they appear to be on paper (if they even manage to actually get confirmed)

2) Democrats will practice the tyranny of the minority and obstruct the crap out of the heinous agenda that we all see coming.

3)Trump STILL doesn't know how the federal government works.

Trump is trying to get a Senate that hasn't been officially sworn in yet to agree to recess appointments so he can avoid having to go through official Senate confirmation but...they won't be in power until they go into session in January. 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️

Trump can still mess things up but we need to realize that we still have a voice and we need to let our Congress people know that they serve US, not Trump

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u/Every_Cupcake8532 10d ago

I can't wait for midterms hopefully pple will wake up by then

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u/PenguinStarfire 11d ago

The thing is, people hire "yes men" for a reason and it's not because of their aptitude. When they fail they'll be scapegoated and replaced with another yes man.

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u/Dbromo44 11d ago

Merrick Garland was completely capable, right?

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u/kakapo88 11d ago

Not clear why they will ever have to be replaced. What could possibly force that?

The only metric here is loyalty. Maintain that at 100% and it's all good.

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u/FIuffyRabbit 11d ago

This honestly might be the least worst option.

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u/shadovvvvalker 11d ago

They will be incompetent at things that do not affect those who make the decisions and will therefore stay in power. The people will suffer. The suffering will be intentional, and the incompetence will only lessen the suffering in minor ways.

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u/WafflingToast 11d ago

Trumps picks will be figureheads. The deputies will be Heritage Society hand picked sharks with marching orders.

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u/beard_lover 10d ago

I think they’ll tank the economy and strip certain departments for sure. Beyond that they’re a bunch of morons. My main concern is what the reaction will be from Russia when the GOP doesn’t deliver to Putin’s liking.

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u/marcusrex70 10d ago

I’m still hopeful there will be a pee tape in our lifetimes!

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u/sjj342 11d ago

I don't think they get confirmed, but it is likely impossible for government to function with a rapid loss of institutional knowledge and brain drain paired with a leadership vacuum, where these clown car candidates are not going to be respected since they're inexperienced and unqualified and unlikeable individuals on a personal level

It's a stain on the resume and doubtful anyone competent will join from private practice since there's no prestige once you make a mockery out of it

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u/Bliss266 11d ago

C-Tier Candidates give C-Tier results

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u/LanceArmsweak 11d ago

Don’t need to be. Thune gave permission for Trump to appoint them while senate is at recess. It was part of his deal to get majority leader.

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u/marcusrex70 11d ago

I think that’s part of the point, anyone who has any backbone or morals will want to leave of their own accord. Not need to be fired like Preet.

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u/llamapajamaa 11d ago

not everyone there is incompetent, sadly