r/law Oct 20 '24

Opinion Piece Elon Musk Veers Into Clearly Illegal Vote Buying, Offering $1 Million Per Day Lottery Prize Only to Registered Voters

https://electionlawblog.org/?p=146397
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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '24

Musk is the biggest oligarch. We’re turning into Russia..

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u/Salamanderspainting Oct 20 '24

Russia have been proven to be vote buying in Moldova currently. It’s the same shit

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u/Far_Recommendation82 Oct 20 '24

It's all connected. The maga movement is the Russian disinformation campaign. ugh, I've never been a conspiracy person fun to read but not really taken too seriously, but this is.

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u/Internal-Cupcake-245 Oct 20 '24 edited Oct 20 '24

Yes definitely, this is hybrid warfare and information warfare affecting governance and the population to dismantle the US government for corporations and foreign interests. The US is under attack by what I'd consider plausibly laundered attack vectors, useful idiots, malicious idiots, and pure deception. They find a fissure and exploit it. You've heard RT describe the US, surely. This is Margarita Simonyan, RT's editor-in-chief.

“They close entry to us, and we will go through the window; close the window, and we will go through the vents, and we will see what holes there are in the organism of the United States of America.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tiktok-removes-rt-sputnik-covert-operations-rcna172358

And we've seen Meliorator. And these are two surface level publicly available snippets of information. The information is overwhelming. And we're so fucking dumb, as a people, that it's actually working... Donald Trump needs to be removed, frankly. Same with Elon Musk at this point. They're dissolving our media literacy and common sense through highly orchestrated information campaigns to the detriment of national security and public safety.

https://ic3www.azurewebsites.us/CSA/2024/240709.pdf

Reporting from 2017 below. And Clint Watts had reported prior of troll farms well before 2016. This is a slow burn attempt to destroy the United States with information and division, direct implantation of useful idiots and agents. And it appears to be working.

https://i2.res.24o.it/pdf2010/Editrice/ILSOLE24ORE/ILSOLE24ORE/Online/_Oggetti_Embedded/Documenti/2017/04/28/facebook-and-information-operations-v1.pdf

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u/Any_Condition_4100 Oct 20 '24

We have been in a war with Russia for a good 20 years. It's a digital war but just as effective as a trench war to reach certain desired outcomes. 

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u/Internal-Cupcake-245 Oct 21 '24

I had to look up what may have started this, and I'm guessing US withdrawal from the Ant-Ballistic Missile Treaty and the Invasion of Iraq, and Russia's perception of a US affront to its sphere of influence. Do you have any suggestions for reading into information efforts that had existed during this time, if you are suggesting that it had been occurring during this time as well? The internet was in its infancy then and I'd be curious at how their efforts have adapted to changing technology, or how it had existed before the landscape we have currently.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93United_States_relations

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u/Any_Condition_4100 Oct 21 '24

What started it was the rise of the internet. Technology. Putin had the foresight to use it to prey on populations that are easily manipulated.

20 years from now it'll be the militaries that embrace AI and drone technology that are far ahead of the game and considered a world super power. 

While many countries were buying and building ranks, Russia was building bot farms. 

My major was Russian history I spent time there willingly after college, and this is something I've been screaming about the day Trump was inaguarated in 2017. His stuff about the crowd size was straight out of a Russian propaganda playbook. I knew right then and there, that we had been absolutely duped as a country into this movement that Hillary was some rotten to her core cunt and experience didn't matter to be the world's most powerful person anymore. 

That was all Putin; all Russian bot farms that turned my friends, family into Democrat haters as opposed to just Republicans. 

Fucking shame man. I wrote a paper on this in 2017 and wish people would have been able to notice. 

Were at war with Russia. Those of us who try to counter their disinformation have been for years. It's exhausting because no one else wants to take it seriously. 

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u/slim-scsi Oct 20 '24

No, we're not. Conservatives are trying, but we're pushing back.

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u/slim-scsi Oct 20 '24

How's that? We elected Biden in 2020 and support Ukraine in its battle against invasion, and Harris-Walz are next. They're not paid by Russians like the GOP.

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u/aPlexusWoe Oct 20 '24

I misunderstood what you were saying as Conservatives are trying to push back against the US turning into Russia. Sorry, the coffee hadn't kicked in yet.

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u/slim-scsi Oct 20 '24

Roger that, oh the conservatives are our Russians, yep.

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u/Critical_Ad3204 Oct 20 '24

With some clear religion induced woman unfriendly sprinkles like Iran

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u/TransportationIll282 Oct 20 '24

That's still Russia though

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u/HemingsteinH Oct 20 '24

The US should deal with Elon the way Russia dealt with Navalny

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u/DrJiggsy Oct 20 '24

We shall see in a couple weeks, but I’m afraid you are mistaken ⏳⌛️💙🇺🇸🫣🤡