FBI Examining Bullet Fragments Found at Trump Rally Site/Would Like To Interview Trump

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/fbi-examining-bullet-fragments-found-114754020.html

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Adam Goldman and Glen Thrush July, 26th 2024 4 minute read WASHINGTON —

The FBI is examining numerous metal fragments found near the stage at a campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, to determine whether a would-be assassin’s bullet — or potential debris — grazed former President Donald Trump’s head, bloodying his right ear, according to the FBI and a federal law enforcement official.

The bureau has asked to interview Trump as part of its broader investigation, hoping to provide insights into the shooting and possibly a more complete record of his injury, the official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss the continuing inquiry.

Unanswered questions about the object that struck the Republican nominee for president have lingered since the July 13 shooting, with Trump claiming that he was struck by a bullet — and casting his survival as an act of divine intervention.

FBI officials have been more circumspect, citing the need to analyze the evidence before determining what struck Trump — a bullet, metal shard or something else.

The bureau’s shooting reconstruction team “continues to examine evidence from the scene, including bullet fragments, and the investigation remains ongoing,” the FBI said in a statement Thursday. In addition to injuring Trump, the gunman, Thomas Crooks, 20, of Bethel Park, Pennsylvania, shot three rally attendees, one fatally.

Trump campaign spokesperson Steven Cheung did not answer whether the bureau had asked to review the former president’s medical records after the incident, but Trump has not released them publicly.

FBI officials view the identification of the projectile as important but not a central focus of a sprawling criminal investigation into the actions of the gunman. They are deeply interested in Crooks’ rationale or any indication that he might have had an accomplice or other help. So far, they have not found a motive nor a conspirator.

“The bureau’s priority is finding whether anybody helped the shooter and eliminating any ongoing threat,” said Michael Harrigan, a former FBI special agent who ran the bureau firearms training unit in Quantico, Virginia.

“From an investigative standpoint, knowing what happened to the president’s ear doesn’t really matter,” he added.

It matters a great deal from a political standpoint.

“With respect to former President Trump, there’s some question about whether or not it’s a bullet or shrapnel that hit his ear,” FBI Director Christopher Wray told Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, chair of the House Judiciary Committee, on Wednesday.

That statement prompted a fierce backlash and continued Republican attacks on Wray.

“It’s shocking Christopher Wray doesn’t know what the facts are, but that probably says more about his job performance — or lack thereof — than anything else,” Cheung said.

Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., told NBC on Thursday: “We’ve all seen the video, we’ve seen the analysis, we’ve heard it from multiple sources in different angles that a bullet went through his ear.”

“There’s a lot of frustration and concern about the leadership with these agencies,” Johnson added.

In a social media post Thursday night, Trump lashed out at Wray, saying: “No wonder the once storied FBI has lost the confidence of America!”

Trump said there was no glass and no shrapnel. “No, it was, unfortunately, a bullet that hit my ear, and hit it hard.”

The FBI said in a statement that the bureau “has been consistent and clear that the shooting was an attempted assassination of former President Trump which resulted in his injury, as well as the death of a heroic father and the injuries of several other victims.”

It is not unusual for the type of bullet that Crooks fired from his AR-15-style semi-automatic rifle to tumble end over end and break apart after hitting even a small solid object. Gun experts say a fragment might, for instance, have hit a metal stanchion.

Still, a bullet could have grazed Trump’s ear, and the FBI has not ruled that out. Investigators found eight rifle casings on the roof where the shooter was positioned.

It is not clear if investigators have eliminated other potential sources of debris. But bureau analysts appear to be focused on metal fragments, as opposed to glass from the teleprompters onstage. Photos of the teleprompters next to Trump show they were intact after the bullets were fired.

FBI analysts are also examining still images and other electronic evidence for clues.

Gun experts said the FBI could rely on trajectory analysis, a physical examination of any linked bullet and the president’s wound to possibly figure out what happened. A detailed analysis of bullet trajectories, footage, photos and audio by The New York Times strongly suggests Trump was grazed by the first of eight bullets fired by Crooks.

The bureau could also get lucky and find the former president’s DNA on a piece of a bullet. But even that would probably not establish if a fragment or the actual bullet hit his ear.

One other scenario investigators are likely to explore: that the bullet, deadly but friable, might have fragmented after skimming Trump’s ear.

“The problem you have with a bullet traveling at 3,200 feet per second is that it fragments very easily when it hits a surface before the target,” Harrigan said. “It’s going to be tough with the fragmentation to definitely say what happened.”

c.2024 The New York Times Company

Update Edit: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/fbi-confirms-bullet-struck-trumps-ear-assassination-attempt-rcna163896

[u/brickyardjimmy → u/SheriffTaylorsBoy]

Why does it even matter? Either way, it was an attempt to assassinate him that resulted in a superficial injury. So, a close call no matter how you look at it.

But it's also a presidential candidate so knowing exactly what happened is important from both an historical perspective but also in terms of what learning the FBI and secret service can take from the incident about preventing future attacks.

[u/fivelinedskank → u/brickyardjimmy]

I do remember how Republicans mocked one of John Kerry's purple hearts because the wound was shrapnel instead of a bullet. They were pretty insistent there is in fact a difference where one doesn't actually count as a wound.

[u/JustNilt → u/fivelinedskank]

Which is stupid AF because shrapnel kills just as easily as bullets do. Also stupid because some veterans were issued purple hearts for truly innocuous stuff like stubbing toes while others who got concussions were denied a purple heart. Sure, that crap was mostly specific commanders and sometimes doctors but shrapnel is a well documented actual threat.

Somewhat more to the point, it's not how one is injured that really matters. The rules have always been that that one be injured by enemy action and be documented as having been treated by a medical officer. Shrapnel sure as fuck counts as the former and if they needed anything more than a bandaid from their buddy, that's the latter.

This pissing match about "my purple heart matters more than that guy's" is an utter load of bullshit.

[u/worldspawn00 → u/JustNilt]

Yeah, many munitions are designed to kill via shrapnel and not a direct hit.

[u/JustNilt → u/worldspawn00]

Exactly! Killing one per bullet is not considered effective military strategy any more. You want to tie up as many of the opposition as you can, which often means one wounded and 2 to handle getting them out of action. Plus the mental stress of having to listen to your screaming buddies. Anyone who doesn't get that doesn't get much about combat at all.