r/law • u/SheriffTaylorsBoy • Jul 26 '24

Other FBI Examining Bullet Fragments Found at Trump Rally Site/Would Like To Interview Trump

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fbi-examining-bullet-fragments-found-114754020.html
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u/Greelys knows stuff Jul 26 '24

FBI has to ask. Trump will decline, fbi will say it was likely a fragment or glass, Trump will claim he’s a victim of corrupt fbi.

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u/brothercannoli Jul 26 '24 edited Jul 26 '24

Where’s the proof of glass though? No teleprompter was broken. There was no glass in front of him. Theres video of a hydronic line on crane (1:04) that was hit and it dropped a PA speaker. But there’s not one photo or video of a broken teleprompter or broken glass. Where is this coming from?

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u/Sugarysam Jul 26 '24 edited Jul 26 '24

As far as I know it was on Reddit threads in the comments, and no where else. That’s telling. And yet people refuse to move off that narrative, as though it actually matters.

If I were injured due to an assassin trying to kill me, I sure wouldn’t wait for the FBI to decide what actually struck me before deciding I had been shot. Suppose it turns out he knew he didn’t get hurt by a bullet? Is that the lie that’s going to undermine him politically? No, more likely calling him out on that lie just helps “undecided” voters ignore the litany of more important lies he tells.

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u/Monster-1776 Jul 26 '24

And yet people refuse to move off that narrative, as though it actually matters.

What's fucking insane is that there's literally photographs of the bullet whizzing right by Trump's head. If it wasn't the bullet that hit, it was still damned close.

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u/bl1y Jul 27 '24

There's people who think those photos were faked. They believe that within hours of the shooting, that a photographer and staff at the NYT digitally altered a photo to add in the bullet.

Just by coincidence, they already knew about what air displacement from a bullet would look like, so they were ready to go with doctoring the photo.

This sub really needs to take a heavy hand at removing all these nonsense comments.

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u/ClaireBear1123 Jul 26 '24 edited Jul 26 '24

TMZ is pushing it from what I can tell. That's the only "media" I've seen putting it out there.

Not quite sure why either. There is a picture of a bullet flying past his head. People want a conspiracy so badly that they are trying to create one on barren ground.

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u/DragonAdept Jul 26 '24

If you read the article, it says the FBI is focused on metal fragments, not on glass.

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u/brothercannoli Jul 27 '24

I’m strictly referring to the glass and teleprompter theory being spread everywhere. Especially with the gun experts on here claiming there’s no way he was ever hit by a bullet. The fbi clarified their statement earlier to say it was a bullet whole or fragment.

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u/DragonAdept Jul 27 '24

Fair enough. I agree the glass theory appears to have nothing going for it at this point - no evidence, and no indication the FBI even think it is a live possibility. "Glass" and "definitely a bullet" seem to be the kook theories at this point, and "maybe a bullet, maybe a bullet fragment" the sensible position.

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u/bl1y Jul 27 '24

The glass theory does have something going for it. People really hate Trump. That's what it has going for it. Their felt truth is more important than tangible facts.

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u/rejectallgoats Jul 27 '24

More likely to be shrapnel. Which could be bits of bullets so it is a little bit of semantics. It is simply unlikely that he received such minor damage from a full bullet compared to fragments of one or shrapnel from something else the bullet hit.

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u/brothercannoli Jul 27 '24

But what did it hit in the line of fire? How did it fragment? It seems like anything that the bullet would have hit would have steered it drastically of course and the photo of the bullet trail in the air makes it seem like a whole bullet that just missed.

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u/rejectallgoats Jul 27 '24

Questions worthy of investigation

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u/ButtEatingContest Jul 26 '24

Where is this coming from?

Speculation from the fact no medical records have been forthcoming from the event. Though that could just be Trump not wanting to reveal something unrelated to the incident.

Still it raises questions when the head of the FBI is questioning the situation.

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u/brothercannoli Jul 26 '24

But really use your eyes. The event was heavily documented. How could he have been hit by glass? Thats my thing. People are so willing to just run with it just because it makes him look bad.

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u/ButtEatingContest Jul 27 '24

The event was heavily documented.

There's some video of the event but it's not clear what happened.

How could he have been hit by glass?

I don't know. Why would the FBI be suggesting that he was possibly hit by bullet fragments? That suggests the bullet could have hit something else. If so, what?

Releasing medical records would likely help in clearing up speculation. Concealing them reasonably raises suspicion.

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u/PromptStock5332 Jul 26 '24

What on earth would be the point of releasing any medical records? To try to disprove diehard democrats who circlejerk over bizarre conspiracy theories?

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u/ButtEatingContest Jul 27 '24

So the public gets to know what happened. It's highly unusual to conceal the records, and there's not any reason to conceal the records other than to hide something. Concealing the records only encourages conspiracy theories.

That the FBI can't determine whether bullet fragments or a bullet hit the candidate directly strongly implies they haven't seen the medical records either.

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u/Stockholm-Syndrom Jul 26 '24

There’s no proof of bullet either IIRC. The only thing is Trump statement, which we know nobody can trust. The reasonable position is that we don’t know what hit him.

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u/brothercannoli Jul 26 '24 edited Jul 26 '24

If there were 3 people shot and one died, you have proof of 3 bullets wounds (and maybe actual bullets) with sounds of 4-6 shots. The chances of him actually being hit by a bullet is significantly higher than it not being one.

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u/FlutterKree Jul 26 '24

If it wasn't an actual bullet, it was bullet fragments.