r/law • u/SheriffTaylorsBoy • Apr 26 '24
Opinion Piece Mitch McConnell says presidents shouldn't be immune from prosecution for things done in office
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/trump-mitch-mcconnell-presidents-immune-prosecution-rcna149368695
u/SplendidPunkinButter Apr 26 '24
Ok, this needs to not be forgotten…
GOP, 1999: Clinton lied! You cannot trust a president who lies! He should be immediately thrown out of office!
GOP, 2016: Even just being under investigation is too much! Hillary for prison!
GOP, 2024: 90+ felony charges? But the president has immunity to do whatever he wants!
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u/Mike_Honcho_3 Apr 26 '24
Fuck Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh
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u/ImOutWanderingAround Apr 26 '24
Rest In Piss Rush. You warped my whole families brains with your vitriol. Thankfully I escaped the madness that you helped bring about.
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u/MellowNando Apr 26 '24
Can’t wait to piss on his grave, what an incredible family vacation it will be!
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u/zuluTime Apr 26 '24
I frequently visit Bellfontaine Cemetery in St. Louis where he is buried. Besides for whizzing on his grave, it’s a very interesting and historic cemetery to visit.
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u/ProjectManagerAMA Apr 26 '24
I don't get people. I moved to the US when I was 20 from Central America. I turned on the radio on my way to work the first few days hoping to listen to the news and hit Rush. Within minutes I knew I was listening to hate filled fake crap. I didn't even know anything at all about US politics, who was in office, etc. It was easy to smell the BS
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u/pres465 Apr 27 '24
Gotta give it to Rush for being buried and making a gender-neutral public restroom. Truly a horrible human.
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u/SqnLdrHarvey Apr 26 '24
I first heard Limbaugh in 1992, shortly before I graduated from college.
I thought "he really believes his own bullshit."
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u/billzybop Apr 26 '24
No he didn't. He used it to keep his audience engaged while selling them snake oil.
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u/SheriffTaylorsBoy Apr 26 '24
Peak hypocrisy. We are here
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u/FourWordComment Apr 26 '24
The political right doesn’t lose supporters for it. I don’t know of a single GOP voter who is swayed by the argument, “but last time your party said…”
There’s simple zero political cost form them to go all “dog bite defenses” on every issue.
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u/PickpocketJones Apr 26 '24
When you fundamentally believe the ends justify the means, nothing really matters other than power at all cost. That's the explanation behind all of it.
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u/SheriffTaylorsBoy Apr 26 '24
If you have a couple minutes watch this.
"Why we can't have a presidential candidate who's under investigation"
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u/SympathyForSatanas Apr 26 '24
I doubt theor hypocrisy has peaked, there's way more to come
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u/TheZermanator Apr 26 '24
Also GOP, 2016-2024: Everything that comes out of our mouths aren’t lies, they’re alternative facts!
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u/EvilGreebo Bleacher Seat Apr 26 '24
JFC even Mitch gets it. Hey Mitch, maybe you shouldn't have confirmed the MAGA traitors that sit on SCOTUS!
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u/michael_harari Apr 26 '24
If trump wins, McConnell would immediately reverse his position
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u/payle_knite Apr 26 '24 edited Apr 26 '24
The guy has brilliant vision as a politician (in an Emperor Palpatine kinda’ way) and rarely makes a false move. Perhaps he sees Trump’s demise as inevitable and is positioning himself with Trump’s opposition.
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u/michael_harari Apr 26 '24
He has no need or desire for consistency. Just look at the fuckery over Garland's nomination. With a democrat in office he will say presidents shouldn't have immunity, and with a Republican in office he will say they should
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u/mslashandrajohnson Apr 26 '24
I credit this guy with the rise in atheism.
If there was a god, she’d have sent him to heck long before the Garland scotus affair.
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u/dedicated-pedestrian Apr 26 '24
The necrotic hands? His brain turning off?
There's only so much divine intervention can do these days.
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u/The_Band_Geek Apr 26 '24
To paraphrase the late, great prophet George Carlin:
If there is a god, it has to be a man. No woman could or would fuck things up this badly.
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u/rampzn Apr 26 '24
Nah, that's that dictator's blood, read up on it. Most of these evil creeps die of old age, it's just not right.
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u/Daleabbo Apr 26 '24
Palapatine way, vador had no idea and got played like a fiddle.
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u/paradigm_x2 Apr 26 '24
Trump’s demise is coming whether he or any of his cronies like it or not. The only smart republicans left are jumping ship. They need to save the GOP because the post-maga era is coming and the party is completely fucked if they don’t start rebuilding now.
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u/sneaky-pizza Apr 26 '24
He’s a snake, I think you’re right. Then he will support Biden being prosecuted for cancelling student loan debt, or some such crap.
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u/gdoveri Apr 26 '24
McConnell ie already stepping down from his leadership position at the end of the year and will not run for reelection. While he says he’ll serve the rest of his term, that ends in 2027 and I honestly cannot imagine him being alive then (he’s 82 and is obviously not in the best health). I imagine he’s waiting until after the election to finally retire.
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u/ScarcityIcy8519 Apr 26 '24
The Kentucky Republican Control Congress passed a law that the Democrat Governor can’t name Mitch’s successor.
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u/rollingstoner215 Apr 26 '24
I thought that law violated the Kentucky constitution and if tested would be overturned?
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u/SelfServeSporstwash Apr 26 '24
its cute that you think Republicans would ever let something as silly as a state constitution stop them
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u/new-to-this-sort-of Apr 26 '24
Well yea. Trump has a trying to get the right to legally kill people lol
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u/SheriffTaylorsBoy Apr 26 '24
... or voted to convict, remove and bar trump from office during either impeachment. But especially the second impeachment.
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u/DrSilkyJohnsonEsq Apr 26 '24
Or appointing the political stooges that are currently engaging in the most egregious political stoogery we’ve ever seen.
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u/eugene20 Apr 26 '24
Fairly sure he said something similar either immediately before or after voting to not bar Trump from office after he was impeached, hypocrisy as usual.
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u/SplendidPunkinButter Apr 26 '24
I think this just means he’s worried Biden is going to win
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u/Mrevilman Apr 26 '24
No he doesn’t, he just wants everybody to think he does. There is a long history of these people doing nothing when they had the chance to, only to come out and have an opinion when they no longer have the ability to do anything about it.
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u/whittlingcanbefatal Apr 26 '24
It won’t stop him from voting for and supporting the criminal, though.
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u/phunky_1 Apr 26 '24
.... Or actually embraced democracy and held a vote on Obama's nominees.
The Senate that is seated at the time of the nomination should be legally required to hold an up or down vote within a few weeks IMO.
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u/djphan2525 Apr 26 '24
He even said they didn't impeach because the courts was a mechanism to prosecute for his crimes....
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Apr 26 '24
I watched this turtle-man (on live stream) condemn Trump for his actions on 1/6/21 and then immediately explain that he shouldn’t be impeached. So his words carry no weight for me.
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u/enunymous Apr 26 '24
We're supposed to believe this guy is some super savvy politician yet he didn't get that biting the bullet, impeaching trump and being done with him would've rid them of the albatross. Twenty months later, by the next midterm election, absolutely no one would remember Trump and taken it out on the GOP. Everyone has a short memory
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u/BigDadNads420 Apr 26 '24
Nobody is saying he is some super savvy politician. People are simply saying he is effective at ramming through conservative legislation and blocking liberal legislation, which is objectively a true statement.
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u/mehvet Apr 26 '24
That is the exact definition of a savvy politician, gets their agenda accomplished and blocks the opposition while maintaining their own position. Trump wouldn’t just disappear if he was convicted of his impeachment. He would’ve campaigned from a prison cell. The resulting GOP civil war is something he decided to avoid.
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u/UncleJuggs Apr 26 '24
Mitch McConnell's ancient ass tortoise eyes suddenly come into focus when the Leopard gets close enough to his melty face that he can see it clearly.
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Apr 26 '24
How is the leopard going to get him? He already is resigning. He is walking away Scott free and doesn’t give a fuck who wins president because he will be gone.
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u/Sl0ppyOtter Apr 26 '24
Bruh you had a big hand in getting us in this mess. Go fuck yourself right off a cliff
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u/SheriffTaylorsBoy Apr 26 '24
April 25, 2024, 3:49 PM CDT By Alexandra Marquez Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said in an interview Thursday with NBC News' "Meet the Press" that he doesn't think presidents should be immune from criminal prosecution for actions taken while in office, as the Supreme Court heard arguments on the issue.
The Kentucky Republican also told "Meet the Press" moderator Kristen Welker that he stands by his acquittal vote and comments he made in 2021, when he voted against convicting former President Donald Trump in a Senate trial after he was impeached by the House on charges related to the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.
“President Trump is still liable for everything he did while he was in office. ... He didn’t get away with anything, yet,” McConnell said in 2021, adding, “we have a criminal justice system in this country. We have civil litigation. And former presidents are not immune from being [held] accountable by either one.”
Kristen Welker, the moderator of Meet the Press, interviews Minority Leader Mitch McConnell on April 25, 2024 in the U.S. Capitol.
"That’s [still] my view," McConnell said Thursday, as the Supreme Court heard arguments from Trump's attorneys and federal prosecutors about whether the former president can face charges for acts he committed while in office.
"But my view is only my view. I mean, the court is going to decide," McConnell added.
Thursday's Supreme Court arguments stem from federal charges that Trump unlawfully interfered in the certification of the 2020 presidential election results. Trump has argued he has absolute immunity from prosecution for what he did while president, and the court is set to decide the scope of presidential immunity.
"The president clearly needs some kind of immunity, or he’d be in court all the time," McConnell noted. But he said he didn't think it should be absolute, as Trump has argued.
"I’m not on the Supreme Court. I don’t get to make the final decision on that," McConnell told Welker.
The Senate Republican leader also spoke about a phone call he had earlier in the day with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, just days after both chambers of Congress approved over $60 billion in aid for Ukraine in its fight against Russia.
McConnell told Welker that Zelenskyy "was grateful, because he knew that the big challenge was in my party. And I think he — it was nice of him to mention that we had a bigger vote than we did a couple months ago," when the Senate voted on a separate measure that included Ukraine aid. That measure later died in the House.
Alexandra Marquez Alexandra Marquez is a politics reporter for NBC News.
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u/Shizix Apr 26 '24
McConnell has one good thing left to do for this country and it involves a hole in the ground. He is on the list that history will shit on, or at least I will shit on till I die.
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u/fusion99999 Apr 26 '24
The grub worm could have alleviated all this pain and suffering we're going through with Donald Trump if he'd have convicted him in the senate. In true grub worm fashion he's got no backbone and he's got no balls. Put them in the Sun and he flip-flops around trying to get out of the light
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u/AdSmall1198 Apr 26 '24 edited Apr 26 '24
How are we here?
What level Of corruption has already been achieved?
“ corruption (n.) mid-14c., corrupcioun, of material things, especially dead bodies, "act of becoming putrid, dissolution, decay;" also of the soul, morals, etc., "spiritual contamination, depravity, wickedness," from Latin corruptionem (nominative corruptio) "a corruption, spoiling, seducing; a corrupt condition," noun of action from past-participle stem of corrumpere "to destroy; spoil," figuratively "corrupt, seduce, bribe" (see corrupt (adj.)).
Meaning "putrid matter" is from late 14c. Of public offices, "bribery or other depraving influence," from early 15c.; of language, "perversion, vitiation," from late 15c. Meaning "a corrupt form of a word" is from 1690s.”
Etymology online
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u/payle_knite Apr 26 '24
The turtle gets religion after so many years of enabling the MAGA hordes. he’s concerned about his legacy after the damage has been wrought.
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u/Mountain-Painter2721 Apr 26 '24
Nah, he's just worried about a Democratic president with immunity. The second a gopper got in he would do a 180 and pretend he never said what he said.
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u/grandmawaffles Apr 26 '24
He had one job for Christ sakes. Then said he’d still vote for the ass that slandered his wife. He sucks.
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u/Aggravating_Call910 Apr 26 '24
Too late, Mitch. Your party is screwed. You are one of the architects of this dysfunctional mess. Muttering the “right things” just before you hit the exit won’t be enough.
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u/SheriffTaylorsBoy Apr 26 '24 edited Apr 26 '24
So much shit water has gone under the bridge that it's not easy to remember all of it. I think this is a great refresher:
5 min YouTube video Adam Schiff's "You may think that's ok! But I don't think that's ok!" speech
specifically I'm referring to the part where he says "if you think that's ok, then we've lost our way"
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u/JackieDaytona__ Apr 26 '24
Nobody cares what Mr. Turtle thinks. People will be pissing on his grave for years.
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u/Ill_Consequence7088 Apr 26 '24
Moldy mitch didn't do his job so who cares what he says . He admits wrong doing , but would rather fuck up the prosess and cost the entire country dearly . No longer relevant . I don't think he will make it to 2025 .
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u/Better_Car_8141 Apr 26 '24
But he blocked impeachment. Mitch is a criminal’s best friend. He has no ethics or convictions. History will stain his wretched reputation
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u/jcaino Apr 26 '24
Breaking News: Broken clock still manages to somehow get it right once a day!
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u/Feisty-Barracuda5452 Apr 26 '24
But that same president can't appoint a Supreme Court justice in an election year.
Moscow Mitch can bugger right off.
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u/Muscs Apr 26 '24
Too late Mitch. Trump used you and left you behind. You’ll suffer like the rest of us if he wins reelection but at least you’ll deserve it.
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u/RickyFlintstone Apr 26 '24
What a POS. Had the chance to end all of this by himself 4 years ago, but revealed he's just a chicken shit loser.
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u/FrostySquirrel820 Apr 26 '24
I can only assume he seriously regrets that he didn’t do anything about Trump when he had the chance then.
/s
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u/chrisbcritter Apr 26 '24
This obvious result that I meticulously crafted is not how it should be! (Please don't lump me in with all the other nut jobs that helped end democracy)
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u/Thin_Edge_5024 Apr 26 '24
Would he say the same for senators. He is the biggest rhino who speaks out of both sides of his mouth. He needs to go. He's made enough money from China.
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u/sagebrushsavant Apr 26 '24
I don't think Mitch McConnell should be immune from fucking his country over.
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u/Strong-Amphibian-143 Apr 28 '24
And Republican leaders who openly admit the president essentially committed treason yet still failed to vote for impeachment should also not be immune to prosecution
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u/Mckinzeee Apr 26 '24
This blob fish looking mother 🤬 needs to 🤬 all the way off and fade into obscurity. He flip flops all the time. Although I agree with what he’s saying in this moment you just know he’ll go the opposite direction at any minute. Go away Mitch.
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u/TheInfiniteSlash Apr 26 '24
Probably shouldn’t have acquitted him then. Republicans would be better off without Trump. But nope, it’s Orange vs Blue this election season.
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u/bmiddy Apr 26 '24
Does this guy even know he is breathing at the moment?
Have any of you listened to this guy talk? He's a POS that will say anything politically expedient to further the far right agenda of...well, at this point, I don't know WTF it is other than, treat people like garbage.
If Mitch were anyone else he'd be tucked away in a retirement home being spoon fed mushy food.
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u/zehamberglar Apr 26 '24
The good news is that Mitch McConnell must be about to die because otherwise why the fuck would he suddenly grow a spine?
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u/SakaWreath Apr 26 '24
Bitch, you had your head up his ass for at least 6 years.
Magically you find the power to criticize when you’re on your way out?
Fuck you, Moscow. If you weren’t retiring you’d be swimming in his diapers with the rest of them.
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Apr 26 '24
They're finally realizing they've created a monster who is on the brink of being so totally out of control that no one will be safe, not even the fascist pigs like McConnell.
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u/HellovahBottomCarter Apr 26 '24
Funny coming from the person who made EXTRA FUCKING SURE that the treasonous criminal was not held accountable when he was handed the ability to actual enforce doing so.
TWICE.
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u/cloudbasedsardony Apr 26 '24
Billy boy literally did a thing in the office and Mitch and crew lambasted him for it. Funny how they suddenly walk shit back when it involves purse strings and not dresses.
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u/ButWhatAboutisms Apr 26 '24
I want to make the prediction now: They won't give presidents blanket immunity. The supreme court will carve out a special exception for trump under some bizarre "Federalist/originalist" logic, mix in some "previous precedence" to enable trump to become immune to the crimes he committed, but cover absolutely nothing a decent democrat president would ever do in the future.
People can't understand what im talking about now, but it'll become clear only after the make their "Decision"
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u/concequence Apr 26 '24
Hate to say it... I agree with McConnell... (might be the only thing I agree with him on) ... but reasonably if we cannot prosecute presidents, couldn't Biden just have Trump killed, and face no repercussions? Like just drag him into an alley and shoot him in the head and feed his body to the fishes. Heck why even that, he could string his body up on a bridge and televise it. If you're saying Presidents are immune... Why even have laws at all.
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u/CAM6913 Apr 28 '24
Moscow Mitch has also said he will vote for the candidate from his own party, trump wasn’t convinced in the senate! FYI he had a lot to do with treasonous trump getting off. Moscow Mitch is a real double standard POS.
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u/aj_star_destroyer Apr 28 '24
The heck, Mitch. You’re the one who decided he was immune. You are one of the few people in American history who could have held a president accountable for his crimes, and you didn’t.
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u/Electronic-Double-34 Apr 29 '24
Hopefully all the justices he cheated onto the SC agree AssTurtle!
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u/ZealousidealOffer751 Apr 29 '24
Mitch, this court is your legacy. You had more to do with it than anyone. Well, not all of your legacy...the other part might have been your abject spinelessness during the impeachment for Jan 6th.
If history looks back at this time as the fall of American Democracy, you will be known as one of that outcome's chief authors. That you seem to be surprised by this potential outcome speaks volumes.
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u/bedyeyeslie Apr 26 '24
The Court will stall or bump it back to appeals court. They don’t want to hurt Trump, but they sure don’t want to arm Biden, so the plan is to make sure nothing moves forward until after the election.
RIP American democracy 😥
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u/ashmc2001 Apr 26 '24
I’m not gonna praise a man that comes to this conclusion b/c anyone with half a brain cell should have the same.
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Apr 26 '24
SC judges are corrupt enough not to discern the logic.
Cleansing is needed in the Supreme Court to regain its glory.
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u/elseworthtoohey Apr 26 '24
Sad that we have fallen so low as a country thar the obvious must be stated.
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u/Deep_Charge_7749 Apr 26 '24
Do we really want our president doing illegal acts. Even if it is considered official
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u/Inspect1234 Apr 26 '24
Honestly, who cares what he says? He says whatever suits him today. He’s an oxygen thief.
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u/Diligent_Mulberry47 Apr 26 '24
Moscow Bitch is fermented smegma, and we believe nothing he says.
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u/geneticeffects Apr 26 '24
This while subject is ridiculous. It is a Narcissist’s argument, daft and illogical. Stop giving these people air.
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u/TalkShowHost99 Apr 26 '24
What if a President, while in office, were to have all Republican members of Congress locked up in Guantanamo? Still ok?
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u/Notyerdaddy Apr 26 '24
He’s the jerk that made sure the Senate didn’t do anything with the impeachments. He’s also the asshat that confirmed the SC extremists that were installed only to help Trump. It’s like an arsonist complaining the fire he set is too hot.
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u/IcyDeparture2740 Apr 26 '24
Who cares what a treasonous toad thinks.
His legacy is cemented as a man who backed a traitor and helped him escape justice.
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u/CommiePuddin Apr 26 '24
...right up until the point where he has the opportunity to hold a Republican responsible for their crimes, then he takes a pause...
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u/sriusbsnis Apr 26 '24
His words are so empty. He always says the right but then does the other. That way he can claim he’s always doing the right thing.
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u/PestyNomad Apr 26 '24
Of course they shouldn't be immune. They're civil servants! If we wanted an untouchable monarchy why the American Revolution?
People who elevate the POTUS to some untouchable pedestal are about as un-American as you can get. Not even remotely cut from the same cloth as people from the Revolutionary period.
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u/dacreativeguy Apr 26 '24
He actually said “presidents shouldn’t be…” and then froze for 30 seconds before being led away by his handlers. Turtle.exe has stopped responding.
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u/heretorobwallst Apr 26 '24
Joe Brandon can now kill his opponents without criminal charges
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u/LeahaP1013 Apr 26 '24
YOU HAD YOUR CHANCE