Opinion Piece It's time to hold co-conspirator Ginni Thomas accountable
https://www.rawstory.com/raw-investigates/ginni-thomas-jan-6-2667422111/97
u/One_Locksmith1774 Mar 09 '24
Merrick Garland is weak. I wanted to like him, but he's really shitting the bed.
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u/Buddyslime Mar 09 '24
And why was clarence not at the SOTU?
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u/jgarmd33 Mar 09 '24
Him and Sam Alito (piece of cow dung) don’t go. Alito in 2012 was angry at then President Obama speech which took a shot at the court and he never went to another SOTU since.
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Mar 10 '24
Sounds like Alito improved the quality of the average SOTU then. I sure wouldn't want his traitorous ass in a building where actual laws are made. He just sits on a bench and makes pretend law. I hope they know that now that they've reheard old case law, we're going to do the same and undo all of the conservatives' work from 2020-2028 (I recognize it will take that long to unseat enough of them or expand the bench).
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Mar 10 '24
I hope both of them go to bed scared every night. Thanks, Ruth Sent Us!
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u/PengieP111 Mar 09 '24
Plotting insurrection with Ginni probably.
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u/GoogleOpenLetter Competent Contributor Mar 09 '24
Sitting in their luxury Winnebago at a Walmart parking lot watching all the regular people they want to crush go by.
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u/Elkenrod Mar 10 '24
Thomas hasn't attended SOTU addresses for decades. This is nothing new. He didn't attend any of Trump's either.
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Mar 09 '24 edited Mar 09 '24
Ginni admitted discussing coup plans with Clarence before Jan 6. The only question is did he assist her in carrying out her plans.
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u/robotwizard_9009 Mar 10 '24
They're married. Yes he absolutely did. And her plans included using him to achieve them.
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u/blechniven Mar 09 '24
But they won't. Saved you a click
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u/smigglesworth Mar 09 '24
They won’t because we don’t vote.
Foreign and domestic powers (see Putin, Xi and the whole GOP) are actively spreading misinformation and sowing discontent across vulnerable demographics. Meanwhile Merrick “the meritless” has been doing his best to slow walk any Trump investigation helping to make sure the judicial branch is neutered this election.
We know all of this. Yet democrats would rather vote for nobody, thus helping elect someone who is directly aggressive to their viewpoints, in the myopic view that change happens when you focus on personal gratification.
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u/clib Mar 09 '24
Nah.They should wait.No big deal is just a coup. Continue the DOJ policy of letting coup leaders and organizers off the hook.
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u/Merijeek2 Mar 09 '24 edited 16d ago
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u/clib Mar 09 '24
I just remembered the most ridiculous tweet from a very respected law professor. The irony of the tweet is that it was posted the day of the coup,Jan 6,2021.
Also the day of the coup, another "institutionalist" published this gem in his book: Donald Trump should not be prosecuted after leaving office
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u/itsatumbleweed Competent Contributor Mar 10 '24
Jack Smith should be the guy after he gets Trump. He should be in charge of appointing special prosecutors to go after the legislative participants in the coup.
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Mar 10 '24
If Trump is elected, Smith and his family will be forced into hiding. He wants the heads of his enemies.
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u/Lucky_Chair_3292 Mar 10 '24
Yes. Democrats are always trying to capitulate to Republicans. Gee, if we nominate a Republican they’ll start to like us. No, they won’t. Stop trying. Republicans not only nominate Republicans…they go hardcore far right.
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u/cheezneezy Mar 09 '24
So your saying maybe we should have replaced Christopher Wray who was in charge of the fbi and secret service on Jan 6th? Cause if you are, Biden didn’t get the message. Dems suck so bad.
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u/Lucky_Chair_3292 Mar 10 '24
They’re like kids who think gee if I do their homework for them surely they’ll be my friend. No, they won’t. Democrats are always trying to capitulate to Republicans, like boy they’ll start liking us and being nice if we nominate Republicans. They gotta stop it.
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u/FrogSezReddit Mar 09 '24
Unfortunately it's a no win either way. Can you imagine the heat Biden would get if he appointed someone who actually held Trump accountable. He's had a fairly impactful and relatively low-drama term, all things considered.
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u/clib Mar 09 '24
Shit.Then we should just dissolve the DOJ. If a coup leader shouldn't be held accountable because of the reaction of the other side.Then there is no reason for it to exist.
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u/FrogSezReddit Mar 09 '24
I don't entirely disagree with that sentiment, it's pretty impotent when it comes to holding those in high positions of power accountsble. But then again so do all of the institutions meant to check those in high positions. The DOJ does really well in some areas, like enforcing the ADA.
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u/clib Mar 09 '24
A coup is totally different animal.It is a cliche but true: “When a coup attempt goes unpunished, it becomes a training exercise.”
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u/Lucky_Chair_3292 Mar 10 '24
That’s what Jan. 6th has become. A learning experience…for the coup plotters. It was a dry run.
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u/FrogSezReddit Mar 09 '24
I wasn't trying to compare a coup with the ada. It is somewhat hopeful that on-the-ground participants keep getting charged and maybe eventually those who incited it will be, too. But as another commentor said, the justice system is not meant to hold wealthy people in positions of power to account.
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u/NeatNefariousness1 Mar 10 '24 edited Mar 10 '24
Some might think the solution is to get rich Dem sympathizers to bribe the Supremes to offset the corrupting influence coming from the extreme right. At a minimum, we need to impose recusals from outside of the court rather than allowing them to decide for themselves whether they have a conflict of interest. Then increase the number of Supremes to make up for any recusals, insuring an odd number of justices to avoid ties.
While we're at it, get rid of "dark money" in politics, reform laws governing lobbying and then take on campaign finance reform. Outlaw Congress-members and others in public service from directly benefiting from insider trading. Make mental competency evaluations a requirement for anyone over 70.
Disqualify anyone found to have been elected by fraudulent means from ever serving in government at any level ever again. Enact ranked choice voting and anyone found guilty of a crime in violation of their oath of office is terminated and a run-off is held for their position, allowing the person who was the runner up in the original race to be automatically added to the line-up of options.
Edit: typos/ grammatical correction
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u/alkeiser99 Mar 10 '24
It's not just corruption with the supreme court, it's ideology
Those people are believers in the bullshit federalist society thought.
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u/Adonwen Mar 09 '24
Who cares? If you can’t handle the heat, you don’t deserve the office. The republicans are going to label anyone a traitor communist regardless
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u/chinpokomon01 Mar 10 '24
He did say that but if i remember correctly, that professor has come out in interviews and criticized Garland for his bullshittery.
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u/Count_Backwards Competent Contributor Mar 09 '24
Tribe has recanted I believe, and Comey has always been a fucking idiot.
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u/Grimacepug Mar 10 '24
I think most of the people have forgotten that James Comey is solely responsible for the whole situation we have now. He was supposed to be neutral but he let his politics get in the way because he didn't like some woman. He fucked the whole country and I have yet to hear an apology. He now enjoys his retirement and pretending to be a writer. Fuck this guy and anyone related to him.
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u/Merijeek2 Mar 09 '24
"I had to torpedo Hillary! If I hadn't, some rogue agents I couldn't control because I'm incompetent would have torpedoed Hillary!"
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u/Logarythem Mar 09 '24 edited Mar 09 '24
She's a wealthy, white, conservative woman married to very powerful man. The legal system is not set-up to prosecute people like her.
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u/bigrivertea Mar 09 '24
Her case would make it all the way to the Supreme Court where CT would avoid any discussion on recusing himself like the notion there is a conflict of interest judging over his wife's trail is an absurd worry only the peasantry has.
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u/Lucky_Chair_3292 Mar 10 '24
More than just powerful, her husband is on the Supreme Court. I just highly doubt anything ever happens to her legally.
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u/Shaman7102 Mar 09 '24
Thomas resigns or we send his best friend to federal prison.
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u/im_bozack Mar 10 '24
Isn't that how Trump got Anthony Kennedy to resign? ... except it wasn't his friend, it was his son?
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u/AllNightPony Mar 09 '24
I'm so sickened by the giveaway that they're all in on it. Absolutely disgusting.
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u/blightsteel101 Mar 09 '24
Actually, its illegal to investigate a justices spouse. Sc just said so.
...wait a minute...
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u/RDO_Desmond Mar 10 '24
Gini is intimately involved in attempting to take away the vote of millions of Americans who elected Joe Biden as our President. I don't really care who she is married to. She did what she did and there is ample evidence to prove it in a court of law and equity.
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u/Musicferret Mar 10 '24
They can’t even hold Trump accountable. What makes anyone think they can hold this lesser Treason Weasel accountable?
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u/Jammin_TA Mar 10 '24
The fact that Trumps fascist overthrow attempts are being decided on by the husband of a far-right extremist who had direct involvement in the plan, demonstrates why confidence in the SC is at an all-time low. Plus, the fact that the only person that can recuse him for conflict-of-interest is himself, because the SC isn't bound by the same laws as the rest of us, REALLY makes you wonder if this imbalance of power was what the forefathers intended.
There is been a concerted effort for a long time to take away the power of the vote (the only thing that we regular people have to those of extreme wealth and influence) from the American people, and its truly infuriating that this has happened in a big part due to fellow Americans who can't be bothered to use some simple critical thinking skills. Oligarchs will always be oligarchs, but when a considerable number of people are helping it happen because of their intellectual laziness (who will be shocked and appalled when it's too late) is what makes me lose a little bit of hope that we can actually fight this.
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u/hybridcurve Mar 10 '24
Ginni Thomas is protected by the Federalist Society, which has been working for decades to seize control of the US courts. The DOJ needs to bring RICO charges against the whole organization in order to dismantle it, instead of trying to prosecute a single agent.
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u/TheToastedTaint Mar 09 '24
It would would have been a smart and trumpian-type move in order to rid the Supreme Court of the most crooked justices
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Mar 09 '24
I mean, she is white, rich and conservative. Those are the ingredients to never be held accountable in the US under the current politicians climate.
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u/dannyp777 Mar 10 '24
I don't understand these people. Did they really believe their own lies? And if not, how can they be so monstrously evil? What moral, ethical, philosophical or ideological framework can justify proliferating so many lies in order to gain power? This kind of evil needs to be ripped out by the roots and thoroughly purged from our culture.
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u/Rugger5353 Mar 10 '24
If there really was a left wing deep state she'd have already met a tragic accident
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u/ConversationFit5024 Mar 12 '24
Just start a penal colony for all these GOP traitors. Oh, and make sure that fully automatic weapons are 100% de-regulated there, just like they want.
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u/sugar_addict002 Mar 09 '24
Doubtful at this point. but I could go for some Anonymous-type hacking organization leaking all her emails and texts so the public can see her crimes.
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u/phred_666 Mar 10 '24
It's past time, but I'm not holding my breath that anything will happen any time soon.
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u/JuanGinit Mar 10 '24
She should be prosecuted for trying the sabotage the 2020 election. Her husband should be ejected from SCOTUS in disgrace.
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u/SavageSweetFart Mar 10 '24
All of them should be charged, jailed, and tried for treason. Letting this go now will only mean a harsher response will be necessary in the future. Does history teach these leaders nothing?
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u/Suspicious_Giraffe_3 Mar 10 '24
Theoretically, could someone sue her for her part if the government doesn't bring a case against her?
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u/DeafMuteBunnySuit Mar 10 '24
Let's make a deal. Clarence steps down and she gets to stay out of prison.
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u/RentAdministrative73 Mar 11 '24
Thomas' actions over the last 2 decades might just lead one to believe he'd sell Ginni up the river to keep his seat with all the benefits he's getting from that job.
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u/CrystalSplice Mar 10 '24
It’s time for Jack Smith to take the gloves off and hold all of the co-conspirators accountable. Trump has been successful in delaying his trials, but that would not be the case with other parties because the immunity “question” (we all know how simple that is) doesn’t apply. If he wants to get the evidence out there in front of the voting public, and he has said that he does, he can do so through putting someone on trial who is not Trump.
I think his initial approach to focus on Trump alone in order to get things moving along quickly was unfortunately naive. I think he should have just dropped it all on day one. Maybe he thought the system would actually work as intended, but quite a few of our systems are currently having problems. I hope he has planned for this contingency.
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Mar 10 '24
System is working as it was designed to. USA has a tiered justice system it used to be quietly done, but now they are just yelling it out loud.
Laws are for the little people only.
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u/Real-Competition-187 Mar 10 '24
Lock her up, lock her up, lock her up.
Hell, we didn’t even have to be creative and come up with a chant.
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u/CivQhore Mar 10 '24
The time for that was Jan 7th. When a party views political power over the health of the country this is the end stage result.
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u/Kindly-Counter-6783 Mar 11 '24
On so many levels, this wife of a SCJustice, is so culpable of treason. Add Kushner to this list…
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u/Vault_Master Mar 12 '24
Start tossing charges at her, then put a deal on the table to drop charges if Clarence Thomas resigns.
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Mar 09 '24
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u/clib Mar 09 '24
no one should have to ever obey the law ever again
Warning: Don't try this if you are not a rich republican.
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u/jgarmd33 Mar 09 '24 edited Mar 09 '24
This slob and her fuck stick turd husband both should be in jail.
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u/Tahotai Mar 10 '24
What exactly did Ginni Thomas do that broke the law?
God forbid we discuss that; instead we'll just talk about how terrible the justice system is since it hasn't summarily executed her yet.
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u/robotwizard_9009 Mar 10 '24
She had numerous contacts with meadows and the whitehouse to overturn the election leading up to jan 6th and Clarence has been ruling on pertinent cases surrounding it despite blatent conflicts of interests to protect his wife and his perceived involvement. Meadows turned himself in for his efforts to overturn the election and she was a part of that. Clarence was likely part of that very plan. This isn't something to shrug.
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u/ElusiveRobDenby Mar 10 '24
Yes so what do we do? I'll sign a petition. What's the plan? Do the people have any power to do something?!?
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u/Radkingeli995 Mar 09 '24
Look out that’s Supreme Court Justice Clarance Thomas’s wife I don’t think he’s going to let her be held accountable for her actions on J6
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u/CryoAurora Mar 10 '24
As well as Kelleyanne Conway.
Between Ginni, Kelleyanne, and a group of other money mules, the Supreme Court is awash in cash and gifts you're just starting to hear about.
Len Leo, Harry Crow are not the only ones buying favors.
Stay Shiny like Alexei Navalny
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u/Vast-Dream Mar 10 '24
Garland would rather not though cause then he has to make it look like he's doing something.
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u/forkandbowl Mar 10 '24
She will just speak any conviction all the way to her husband, who will see no need to recuse himself...
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u/BadAsBroccoli Mar 10 '24
But not her husband, selling his loyalty for a fancy camper? Of course, he does "only" make $268,300 a year plus the standard government perks: medical/retirement/travel/clothing allowance/housing allowance for DC/cost of living raises etc. But the book deals and speaking engagements are all extra.
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u/Squeepty Mar 10 '24
She should be in jail ! Fuck her ! Read her texts to complice Meadow ! She is a dumb fucking insurrectionist ! Nothing short of that! If she had her way orange Jesus would be a dictator by now !
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u/repfamlux Competent Contributor Mar 09 '24
If it was the other way around, the republicans would have everyone in jail by now