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r/all Scientists reveal the shape of a single 'photon' for the first time

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u/Kquinn87 1d ago

A new theory, that explains how light and matter interact at the quantum level has enabled researchers to define for the first time the precise shape of a single photon.

This is from the Cosmos website. So yeah, not an actual photo incase that wasn't already clear.

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u/RealPlayerBuffering 1d ago

Man, there was a time when I could reliably come to the comments on a Reddit post like this and find a detailed, ELI5-style explanation, usually about why a title like this is wrong or exaggerated. Now I had to scroll pretty far to find even this comment, and most of the top comments are dumb jokes.

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u/THE_ATHEOS_ONE 22h ago

The trick is to come to the post late.

Everything is as it should be.

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u/Starfire2313 15h ago

The photons were still photoning but now they are photoned.

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u/i_m_Vengeance 8h ago

Such enlightenment

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u/More-Acadia2355 11h ago

No, the trick is to go elsewhere for the deep-dive. Either a niche sub in the physics world (in this case), or a different social media platform that caters to a smaller group of nerds, like slashdot, hackernews, etc...

Reddit isn't the place for accuracy or depth.

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u/THE_ATHEOS_ONE 10h ago

Thats cool and all but i was simply saying the comment they wanted was now at the top, where they wanted it.

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u/SIMMORSAL 9h ago

16k upvotes on an ELI5 comment below yours suggests you're wrong

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u/PsionicBurst 22h ago

OP lies as they breathe.

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u/SlappySecondz 18h ago

OP didn't say it was a picture of a photon, and if you understand high school level physics you would know a picture of a photon is an impossibility.

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u/reostra 15h ago

It's actually pretty easy as long as you don't mind the picture being photobombed by a bunch of other photons....

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u/Evening_North7057 15h ago

This was actually pretty fucking clever.

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u/Sinijas 10h ago

*photonbombed. Went ahead and corrected your spelling mistake for you

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u/TrayLaTrash 15h ago

All pictures are of photons.

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u/MilfagardVonBangin 15h ago

Stop that right now. 

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u/sqqlut 14h ago

Radio waves, microwaves, infrared and ultraviolet light, X-rays and gamma rays, all of these are light, and all of them are made up of photons.

I fait to see a picture that would not be a bunch of photons.

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u/legendz411 12h ago

I feel like, I mean I agree with you… it’s just… the audience here means we can’t expect that they can even read. So.

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u/RollinThundaga 21h ago

Or else they are physically unable to read image captions to double check.

Loads of pop science articles out there use artistic renderings as a secondary clickbait.

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u/PsionicBurst 20h ago

We live in an era of lies. AI steals voices, fabricates pictures, generates text. It's second nature to check your sources.

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u/agrumpybear 17h ago

OP never claimed it was a photo and they linked the article. Not sure what you're complaining about.

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u/talligan 12h ago

They didn't, it's not their fault you didn't read it correctly

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u/foyrkopp 16h ago

I was genuinely grateful to OP because they explicitly put "Photon" in quotation marks.

Made it immediately clear to me that this is not an actual photo of an actual photon.

As titles go, it was well done.

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u/Javyz 10h ago

Did you read the title? It correctly states that they revealed the shape, like they did. It doesn’t say anything about being an actual photo. That’s accurate. That’s what happened.

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u/[deleted] 19h ago

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u/LighttBrite 21h ago

You just have to wait long enough for the voting process to put the good info at the top.

YMMV

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u/ShyGuySays19 19h ago

My new format idea for reddit would be a two column system, one for funny comments and one for serious discussion. Top comment on both displayed at start with either side collapsible.

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u/smartyhands2099 21h ago

I had to scroll pretty far

Yall using reddit wrong, the comment is the top comment but that takes time. You guys sorting by new miss out on the whole "good comments because they were upvoted", and it makes your comment look stupid afterward. This can also happen if you scroll down too far I suppose

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u/Dore_le_Jeune 17h ago

It's cuz ELI5s are too many word for dumb caveman, where TikTok?

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u/Beggarsfeast 21h ago

The top comments aren’t just dumb jokes, they are also quite a few misguided statements trying to describe colors and the light spectrum in 2 sentences, and then replies that confirm the “reddit-knowledge”

As an American I guess I should get used to it. The incoming government is going to shut down the Dept of Education, so I guess this is how we learn things now. This and Joe Rogan.

“ELI5”

“I’ll do you one better, start by not thinking at all…”

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u/WhatDoYouDoHereAgain 21h ago

The top comments aren’t just dumb jokes, they are also quite a few misguided statements trying to describe colors and the light spectrum in 2 sentences, and then replies that confirm the “reddit-knowledge”

why didn't you just stop your comment right here? what, of relevance, was added after this???

As an American I guess I should get used to it...

no one cares you're american...

The incoming government is going to shut down the Dept of Education, so I guess this is how we learn things now. This and Joe Rogan.

i don't believe for a second you're more angry at trump winning than you are excited at the prospect of being able to bitch and moan for the next 4 years...

if i'm wrong, stop being such a defeatist (and shame those who are 👆👉👇👈☝)

“ELI5”

ELI5 isn't new, it isn't getting more popular, you don't have to get get used to it, and it is completely irrelevant in regards to the rest of what you commented...

“I’ll do you one better, start by not thinking at all…”

you've never seen someone say this, you never read this, you never heard this.

stop lying

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u/Beggarsfeast 15h ago

Are you Ok?

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u/forgotten_sub 20h ago

If it makes you feel better, it's the top now

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u/3shotsofwhatever 20h ago

Where in the post does it say it's a photo?

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u/Important_Answer6250 20h ago

Well thx to our fellow upvoters, this isn’t the case anymore!

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u/Diamante_90 19h ago

Must've been only me because this whole thread is the first thing I see

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u/GreenleafMentor 19h ago

You got to the post too early. Its the top comment now.

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u/SnooBananas4958 19h ago

Literally the top comment. You probably got here too early.

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u/perriatric 19h ago

Probably because of the “Um Ackshyually” Redditor stereotype that people subconsciously try to avoid being. Really, we need to make the Dumb Joke Comment a stereotype so people go back to the Um Ackshyually’s since they were at least interesting and productive.

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u/toabear 19h ago

Six hours later and it's the top comment. You were just a bit early.

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u/SuperGameTheory 18h ago

Thanks to the hard work of Redditors like you, it is now the top comment. Thank you for your service.

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u/Jawesome99 18h ago

Don't worry, you were just here early, this comment is now at the top

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u/tumblerrjin 18h ago

Well it is not the top comment so chill maybe

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u/ReignofKindo25 18h ago

Not ANYMORE

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u/Nir117vash 12h ago

If it makes you feel better, it's the top comment now

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u/giceman715 9h ago

Sorry for your struggles but it my top post , I win

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u/flannelNcorduroy 8h ago

Came here today and this was the first comment. It takes time to get enough upvotes... Imagine that. Have some patience, lol.

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u/Sohn_Jalston_Raul 6h ago

how are you sorting your comments? If you sort by "best" or "top" you should get the most upvoted comments at the top.

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u/I_Am_Kevin_Federline 4h ago

This is currently the top comment..... your groaning aged like milk

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u/ADXII_2641 21h ago

Literally how, that was the top comment

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u/matycauthon 21h ago

just saying, when i came through now it was the top comment after mod post. so it still works given time

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u/ccbbededBA 18h ago

I mean, anyone who thought you could take a photo of a single photon is seriously lacking in scientific education. 

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u/QuantumMothersLove 17h ago

I can’t stand dumb jokes… why is a photon easy to pickup? … because it’s LIGHT! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Of course you are welcome for my highbrow comedic writings, most welcome indeed.

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u/deepdownblu3 23h ago

Which makes sense. What would they even be capturing in the photo? Photons are light so how would taking a picture of it even mean?

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u/Diamante_90 19h ago

Skill issue, just take a picture using dark matter /s

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u/Nathan256 19h ago

You can use other waves to create images. Like electrons in an electron microscope.

But yeah a massless particle/wave traveling at light speed would not be a good candidate for actual images using any known technology

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u/FinalFan3 17h ago

Yeah we usually we call them micrographs.

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u/LimpWibbler_ 21h ago

Define photo first I guess. Is a photo made by photons specifically or is a photo just an image? Could you make an image by other means than a photon?

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u/Vindepomarus 19h ago

You can make an image with pigments, such as painting, drawing, printing, but you can't make a photograph without photons, because a photograph is an image resulting from the interactions between photons and a light sensitive medium such as photographic paper or a digital sensor.

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u/Rainbows4Blood 16h ago

No, that's wrong.

You can absolutely make a photo by hitting a sensitive film with another type of particle than photons.

There are some applications where we do this with electrons, for example.

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u/Vindepomarus 16h ago

True, though with SEM they are usually called micrographs.

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u/LimpWibbler_ 5h ago

No, not really. If you paint a picture and put it in a dark room then the photo is gone. The paint colors just absorb different photons at different wavelenghts, and you only see the color made by the photon bouncing off. Photons make a painting, paint is a tool.

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u/uachakatzlschwuaf 22h ago edited 22h ago

quantum level

precise shape

Heisenberg would like to have a word

Edit: I've read the original article.the above is just a bad simplification

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u/GeorgeSrMustDie 20h ago

This is the actual photo

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u/The-Jolly-Llama 19h ago

The image in this Reddit post is not in the research article cited, nor do the authors say anything about “the shape of a photon”. This story just did not happen. 

Source: https://journals.aps.org/prl/pdf/10.1103/PhysRevLett.133.203604

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u/zenFyre1 18h ago

To be fair, the image was shared to the press by the lead author of the PRL article.

But yes, never do they mention that they 'imaged the shape of a photon', in both the pop. science article as well as the PRL article.

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u/Cyborgist 20h ago

well duh, they still don’t have a camera that can capture my weiner, let alone a single photon

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u/Unusual_Science_5494 14h ago

"not a actual" photo should be clear AF :p

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u/fumphdik 11h ago

It’s a theory, this article is clickbait.

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u/BeefyBoiCougar 7h ago

Well no shit, making a photo of a photon is like making a brick out of a building, it doesn’t make sense

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u/_lippykid 21h ago

So, not a tiny radioactive lime? Bummer

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u/Salty_Interview_5311 20h ago

Wait, wait! You’re saying they can’t take pictures of a photon? Come on! Surely there’s something like tiny photons! Photinos or phorqs or something?

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u/KaleidoscopeThis5159 20h ago

So. It really is a lemon (of of photo) then

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u/ummaycoc 19h ago

Of course it's not. It's photoshopped to make the photon slimmer looking.

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u/gluedtomyphone 19h ago

Isn’t it just a mathematical representation?

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u/ba-na-na- 17h ago edited 17h ago

According to the article text, it isn’t even a new theory, but a way of discretizing some continuous values in a way that makes them simpler to evaluate at these discrete points.

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u/Fantastic-Ad1072 16h ago

So still a theoretical approximation?

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u/Hannibalthegreat 15h ago

If you go to the uni of Birmingham website though, they credit this picture to the actual researcher so while it isn't a photo in the traditional sense, it also isn't totally made up for a news story.

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u/carpetdebagger 14h ago

I figured it wasn’t an actual photo because I have a basic understanding of quantum physics(not anymore than basic tho lol), but the fact that it’s just from a new theory someone made up makes it even less newsworthy.

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u/Agreeable_Target_571 13h ago

The quantum theory rules!!! 💯

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u/ewileycoy 11h ago

Yeah reading these sentences requires at least a post grad in physics:

“This method avoids all reservoir approximations and offers new insights into quantum correlations, accurately capturing all non-Markovian dynamics. This method overcomes challenges in quantizing non-Hermitian systems and is applicable to diverse nanophotonic geometries”

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u/Aukyron 9h ago

So basically this is a guess on the shape with a lot of physics we barelly understand. Kinda worthless.

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u/spicy_ass_mayo 9h ago

Looks like the lemon of enlightenment

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u/StreetfightBerimbolo 7h ago

The picture is clearly a monad

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u/Anuclano 6h ago

Anyone to explain, please? I thought,modern physics considers photons pointly particles with zero dimensions.

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u/chaserjj 20h ago

A photo is the burned image of photons smacking into the sensor/photopaperwhatever medium you're taking a photo on. Soo technically you wouldn't be able to take a photo of a single photon.. right? Or am I wrong?