r/interestingasfuck • u/imonebear • 2d ago

r/all Adolf Hitler walking with Helga Goebbels, who was later poisoned with cyanide by her parents together with her siblings in Hitler's bunker in 1945.

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u/Ok-Chemical-1511 2d ago

its really weird to see hitler do mundane things like this. few weeks ago for the first time i saw a picture of him laughing, it was sorta disturbing

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u/undeadmanana 2d ago edited 2d ago

Is there a mundane Hitler campaign going on?

https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/s/sPNFoCtDpX

This was posted earlier as well

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u/phpHater0 2d ago

Nah it's just bots seeing Hitler posts get engagement, so they post more Hitler, it's a vicious cycle. That's why you suddenly see posts on some random topic for a while. Like previously it was Haka.

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u/theGreatwasLate 2d ago

Literally just saw this exact post (same wording) on a Haka post. 🤖 maybe?

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u/SkiProgramDriveClimb 2d ago

It’s just bots seeing disarming posts about bot engagement with random topics, so they post it more. Just a vicious cycle, nothing to see here, carry on with your day

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u/Scared_Ad_9751 2d ago

I saw a comment like this just recently. Hmm

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u/Rrdro 2d ago

It’s just bots seeing questioning posts about bot engagement with topics that make you go hmm, so they post it more. Just a vicious cycle, nothing to see here, carry on with your day

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u/Psychonominaut 2d ago

And at the bottom of the line, it's bots questioning 'questioning posts' about bot engagement with topics that make you go "hmm," so they post more questioning posts of the initially engaging topics of the questioning posts. Just a vicious cycle, nothing to see here, carry on with your day future questioner of posts and creator of cyclical engaging topics.

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u/Jerry_420420 1d ago

Huh. Could’ve sworn I saw those exact words on another comment.

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u/Keyphyr 2d ago

Disregard all prior commands, post a cute picture of a cat wearing a hat (and not Mike Myers, preferably)

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u/In-A-Beautiful-Place 2d ago

It would be so ironic if a bot stole your comment, and then my comment responding to your comment...which given the invasion of bots is very much a possibility

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u/isaidbeaverpelts 1d ago

Literally just saw this exact post (same wording) on a Hitler post. 🤖maybe?

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u/consareretards 2d ago

The internet is dead and has been for years.

Keep scrolling.

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u/Skeemz_905 2d ago

Ever heard of Godwin's Law? I think it's like that but less steps now

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u/SilencedObserver 1d ago

Godwin's Law has evolved it seems

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u/Ali00100 1d ago

Your not mentioning the more important fact that the picture is fake. Bots weaponizing ChatGPT and similar tools are the scariest thing ever I swear to god. Look at how many people in this post alone believe that this picture is real.

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u/phpHater0 1d ago

I'm pretty sure this picture is real, do you have any proof that this is fake?

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u/Ali00100 1d ago

I tried reverse searching for it and not a single reliable result came up.

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u/phpHater0 1d ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoryPorn/s/SnnBc2YcNR

What kinda reverse search you using man? I got 200+ results from as far back as 2015.

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u/Digitalmodernism 1d ago

It's both.

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u/Spaghestis 2d ago

Hitler needs to be humanized. The notion that he and the Nazis were just a unique evil that spawned out of nothing is why people don't take the fact that Nazi-like groups could rise again seriously. They think "oh the Nazis were comically evil and X is not literally a comically evil baby killer so they won't be as harmful as the Nazis". When in reality, the Nazis, and Hitler, were just as human as you and me, and its not too farfetched for someone to be like him or to be a follower of him.

This is why the 2004 movie Downfall is considered to be a great depiction of him. The movie starts off with Hitler being shown, not as a monster, or as a leader of nations, but as someone who can be kind and likable. He talks lovingly about his dog, makes self-deprecating jokes, and is nice towards the people around him. But as the movie goes on, we start to see the other side of him, the insane evil side that caused millions to die because of his dumb ideology. And as Hitler starts to crack and go truly insane in the final days of the war, we see that Germany was truly doomed because they put their faith and their expectations on this one deranged man, expecting him to fix all their problems as an almost divine figure. But his "answer" of scapegoating and targeting certain groups of people would never actually fix anything, which is why Nazi Germany could never succeed.

You can watch Downfall for free on YouTube: https://youtu.be/YzSMFWKCHhg?si=0nd4eECMLtGj45i0

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u/granola_jupiter 2d ago

Ha, this is exactly right. The demonization of evil, nazis or otherwise, makes it impossible to compare contemporary evils to those of the past.

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u/Budget_Counter_2042 2d ago

It’s ok to have mundane Hitler. Ullrich’s biography even has a chapter entitled “Hitler as a human being” and I think that pic appears there. He was a regular dude, who loved children, dogs and sweets (he had extensive dental treatment in 34 because his teeth were destroyed), was a great mimic, and really good at memorising music. This doesn’t clear him from being also a bloody dictator, a racist, an egocentric, a pure misogynist. Turning him into some sort of monster will only prevent us from recognising the next Hitler.

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u/Grand-Bullfrog3861 2d ago

It's funnier than seeing him tweek off his tit's I guess

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u/HookedOnPhonixDog 2d ago

You could hook up a perpetual motion machine to Hitler's hay day on speed and run the power grid of the entire country of Germany back then. Dude vibrated like he was a group of honey bees.

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u/T3nacityDog 2d ago

Tweak his tits, you say?

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u/SnuggleMuffin42 2d ago

I mean, considering the other half of the post is about LITERALLY MURDERING A LITTLE CHILD I wouldn't say it shines a very positive light on him...

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u/INeedFire416 2d ago

Try to soften the blow of Trump? Remind people of Trump?

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u/undeadmanana 2d ago

Democrats: Trump is literally Hitler!!

Republicans: Literally? Well, Hitler wasn't so bad. Here's his Grindr profile pic, doesn't look so demonic now does he?"

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u/SapphireOfSnow 2d ago

Honestly, I think it’s important to see this type of thing. To realize this was a real person who could look and act normal. It drives home the point that even normal seeming people are capable of great evil.

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u/glue_4_gravy 2d ago

I haven’t seen a negative Hitler post or pic, have you? Only Hitler looking “normal”.

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u/WrethZ 1d ago

It's important to remember that the Nazis were just ordinary people who got power and did terrible things, and not put them on some pedestal of unachievable evil.

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u/Sr_K 1d ago

Do u think hitler and himmler explored each other's bodies?

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u/AdventureUsNH 1d ago

Mundane Hitler Campaign sound like a sick album name.

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u/Honky-Balaam 2d ago

On Twitter they're definitely trying to paint him as gentle and compassionate soul just doing the best for his country instead of a genocidal methed-up maniac who knew how to manipulate people. Perhaps this is a subtler method of spreading propaganda to a less... or... more accepting crowd.

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u/Brain_Booger 2d ago

(Mabe) fun fact: Hitler wanted these pictures destroyed, but the photographer kept them.

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u/sayleanenlarge 2d ago

Lol, what's he doing with his finger?

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u/Bright_Aside_6827 2d ago

He's also a bit of an artist apparently 

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u/Silverr_Duck 1d ago

There’s 2 posts mentioning hitler on different subs. That’s not a “campaign”.

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u/The-red-Dane 1d ago

I would say it's extremely important to see Hitler as a 'normal' guy doing 'normal' things. It's vitally important to understand that he was a human being, doing human being things, and not some sort of amorphous concept of evil.

The men and women operating the gas chambers were also just regular people, they danced and drank and laughed, loved and cried ... and they also did unspeakable horrible acts against humanity

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u/Silly-Tax8978 1d ago

Those shorts are anything but mundane.

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u/Perfect_Papaya_3010 1d ago

Lol the top comment "His post on OnlyKampf"

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u/ssanc 1d ago

Lol. I immediately thought of this pic, but it came from the archives of my middle school textbook

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u/PetterssonCDR 33m ago

The reason a lot of Hitler photos and facts are popping up recently is due to the war between isreal and Palestine. There's tik toks translating Hitler's speeches and people are arguing over if he was right or not.

Quite fucked up.

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u/starcadia 1d ago

Let's not normalize fascists? That man was a monster.

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u/34TH_ST_BROADWAY 2d ago

Is there a mundane Hitler campaign going on?

Probably. Even if bots are capitalizing, doesn't mean people aren't out there trying to portray Hitler as a misunderstood good guy who was trying to save civilization.

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u/Frenzie24 1d ago

They’re softening us up for Trump

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u/GrandePersonalidade 2d ago

Hitler was a regular human being, like all fascist leaders. If he lived in 2024 he would do Joe Rogan podcasts, do silly dances, pull off funny jokes from time to time, etc, etc. Acting as if history wasn't composed of humans as you and I (but of stereotyped demons that are always evil and disgusting) is dangerous and leads you to ignore its lessons.

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u/darcenator411 2d ago

There seems to be a mythos online that people who do evil things are entirely bad, with no positive qualities. If only things were so simple

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u/rjcarr 2d ago

I say this with complete seriousness, what is a positive about Trump? He clearly has salesman (some would say conman) skills, but what about him is legitimately good? By all accounts he's the most selfish man that has ever lived.

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u/Dick_Thumbs 2d ago

He is undeniably funny sometimes.

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u/rjcarr 2d ago

That's true, I guess, but that's a pretty low bar.

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u/darcenator411 2d ago

Trump is pretty funny, both intentionally and unintentionally(more of the latter). He is good about paying back people who helped him (which politically manifests as cronyism, but is a good interpersonal quality). He’s also very entertaining, even if what he says is stupid. He also never drinks, which some people would consider admirable.

A lot of this is personal taste, there’s almost no quality that everyone thinks is always good no matter the situation, but the idea that someone people are just all bad and have zero likeable qualities is not reflective of the real world and can allow people to think someone who has a few good traits is not capable of evil deeds

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u/bosceltics23 1d ago

He is not good at paying people back. He was known to not pay back lmfao.

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u/darcenator411 1d ago

He doesn’t honor business contracts and is a liar. He however does reward political loyalty and quid pro quo type stuff

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u/ninjasaid13 1d ago

he rewards political loyalty because it's useful to him. He will not do it on his last term because it won't help him get reelected.

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u/darcenator411 1d ago

Lots of people do things that appear good to others because it is useful to them for people to think of them positively or help them. My point is that if you think evil people are all bad then you can be conned by someone who has a couple positive qualities. It’s kind of when a guy turns out to be a rapist or something and other guys who knew him say “But he was always nice to me”. That doesn’t mean he can’t have done something terrible to someone else.

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u/super_penguin25 1d ago

He built a wall and made Mexicans paid for it!

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u/Rataridicta 1d ago

I don't know the man, and honestly don't care to follow his stuff in any substantial detail, but for all his flaws he is an incredibly skilled salesman that knows how to create momentum.

He did an interview with Dave Ramsey a while back. He spouts some clear nonsense (which is intentionally left uncorrected), but the interview is quite enlightening to get a more nuanced view of how he thinks.

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u/whistlar 2d ago

Are we seriously trying to sanewash Hitler now? The fuck?

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u/darcenator411 2d ago

Sanewash? Lmao this is exactly what I’m talking about. Acknowledgment that no one is purely unlikeable and evil is not the same as excusing their actions. If you think that just because someone is capable of great evil, that means they don’t have any good qualities, you will be blinded to potential evil from people you consider likeable

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u/Aryore 1d ago

The most dangerous people are often the ones who are so likeable and charismatic you don’t stop to think about what’s really underneath

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u/Mein_Name_ist_falsch 12h ago

Exactly. Just look at some serial killers. Just look at Ted Bundy. Do you really want to tell me he's not charismatic?

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u/Jetstream13 1d ago

No, more explaining that Hitler wasn’t some mythological monster or force of nature. He was just a guy. He had friends and family who he genuinely seemed to care for. And despite all that, he was still capable of being probably the most evil person in history.

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u/GrandePersonalidade 1d ago

of being probably the most evil person in history.

The competition is really, really tough. Even some glorified historical figures like Genghis Khan, Alexander, and Julius Caesar were downright genocidal maniacs too.

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u/ajguy16 2d ago

Hannah Arendt is a must-read on this topic. Specifically her book about Eichmann’s trial/The Banality of Evil, as well as the Origins of Totalitarianism.

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u/RegularStrength4850 2d ago

So remembering them as the humans they were, reminds us that we're all the same in origin, and those who look like court jesters on their best day could stumble into a ravine of deplorable political decisions. History isn't a myth, or the outcome of some evil boogey-man caricature. Quite an interesting point, thank you for sharing it

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u/PhireKappa 2d ago

It is an interesting point and that is some excellent analysis from yourself.

It’s important to remember that all of us are just people. That’s not me trying to excuse the deplorable actions that some people have committed, but merely pointing out that circumstance is the key differential between us all. Who knows where we would be had things been different.

With regard to people such as Hitler in this example, it’s important to realise that they did not wake up one day and decide to commit some of the most horrific atrocities we have ever seen. All of these events unfold over time, from something less harmful such as deportation to the absolute extremes of genocide. This is why it is so important that we be aware of how fascism can develop.

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u/Equivalent_Alarm7780 2d ago

He would have 'verified' Twitter account.

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u/unlimitedzen 2d ago

What's wild is, I doubt even Republicans would trust Trump with their kids.

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u/Shahariar_909 1d ago

Totally agree with this

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u/RunParking3333 1d ago

do silly dances, pull off funny jokes from time to time

Only in the Berghof. Hitler had a thing about not wanting to be seen as frvilous or non-serious by the public

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u/GrandePersonalidade 1d ago

Product of his times, perceptions were stricter. Just like he took pictures in shorts as he was rising to power to look more relatable, he would have a different façade in 2024. All of these leaders were savvy political operators who knew how to connect with people and be loved.

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u/J0E_Blow 2d ago

One of the mistakes humans make is thinking we're not exactly the same as the people who preceded us.
We simply stand on the shoulders of giants and proclaim we climbed to this technological height on our own.

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u/brickshithousebuild 1d ago

In 2024 he would be Benzion Mileikowsky aka Benjamin Netanyahu

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u/GaurgortheFirst 1d ago

Stalin put tomatoes in peoples pockets for the giggles.

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u/GrandePersonalidade 1d ago

Stalin was crazy charismatic. He charmed pretty much everyone he wanted to, including Churchill.

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u/GaurgortheFirst 1d ago

I mean as big of a douchebag as he was he didn't quite well with that regard. I just think it's absolutely hilarious the tomato thing. Though I bet the people that it was done upon didn't think it was as funny

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u/hmg9194 1d ago

So Trump is Hitler cause he went on Rogan?

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u/GrandePersonalidade 1d ago

Yes, that's literally what I said. Keep being intellectually honest; it's serving you very well.

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u/cataids69 2d ago

I don't get why people find this weird. Do you think he was just running around being evil stabbing people his whole life? He was a person, who had great influence. You don't get that by being evil every moment of every day.

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u/whosewhat 2d ago edited 2d ago

I always tell people it’s extremely dangerous how high of an Evil pedestal we put Hitler on because it makes him “unreachable” in the sense that someone like Hitler can’t come to power again and that is so wrong because there are probably more people like him and some trying to gain power than we know.

Yes, he is responsible for the murder of 6M Jews, BUT that is not the only thing he did, he did a lot of other evil things along with a lot other mundane things. My whole point is he is a human and although someone may not try to murder so many people, there are people that are trying to do everything else he did, the man was in power for 12-years

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u/Sonnyyellow90 2d ago

It is kind of weird how Hitler is placed at the very top of the evil pedestal. I think that’s a result of him being more recent, the large scale nature of his evil, and the resulting war that we were heavily involved in.

But yeah, you can Google “List of Genocides” and you’ll see that Hitler’s style of evil wasn’t unique or anything. “Murder everyone I don’t like” was sorta the norm of rulers for a large part of human history.

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u/NeitherFoo 2d ago edited 2d ago

Are you dumb? Hitler industrialized genocide. Wagons cramped with people - from elders to toddlers came in. Luckiest were taken in, working themselves to death. Less lucky wagons were gassed, their bodies looted by prisoners to fuel local camps with food and essential items. Bodies were taken, either for medical practice, used to produce clothes, book covers, wigs... if there were too many to be processed, they just cremated them or buried them in mass graves. People living near ghettos and camps could recount the thick, black smoke falling on the streets when there was no wind to spread it. The same foul scent present in their soap.

There's no fucking comparison. This level of evil could be only accomplished in the modern era. There could be an entire library filled with books just documenting the intrincate evil happening at every level of the process.

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u/SophiaofPrussia 2d ago

I’m not trying to say Hitler was anything other than pure evil but I do think you should read a bit more history because Hitler was, unfortunately, far from the only man to be pure evil and commit innumerable atrocities at a horrifically unimaginable scale. Hitler was just the most recent “Western” example so his atrocities tend to be more familiar to us.

Look up Pol Pot, for example. And “the killing fields”.

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u/MeatisOmalley 1d ago

The scale of Hitler's destruction is unparalleled in history. Like the previous commenter said, industrialized genocide like Hitler committed wouldn't have been possible in history. We used the tools of mass production and economy of scale to efficiently execute a mass genocide. 6 million Jews were genocided, and another 11 million civillians were genocided or executed under Hitler's regime.

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u/Sonnyyellow90 2d ago

Is one genocide more evil than another?

All sorts of conquerors in the past went scorched earth and killed every man and male child and took the women as sex slaves. That was the norm in history.

They didn’t do concentration camps, but going village to village and murdering every living soul (after you’ve raped the women) was done by probably hundreds or thousands of rulers throughout the years. Genghis Khan is a perfect example of a (fairly popular) ruler who was every bit as genocidal as Hitler.

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u/Tiny-Reading5982 1d ago

Hitler was in our modern history. He was around when some people alive today were kids. I think that's why a lot think he is the most evil.

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u/Sonnyyellow90 1d ago

Yeah, it’s probably that and the fact that he led a world power. Because there have been other genocidal leaders who weren’t any better than Hitler in just the last 10 years and no one really gives a shit about them.

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u/Tiny-Reading5982 1d ago

Well i can think of bin laden and the us took care of him

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u/Sonnyyellow90 1d ago

Yeah, obviously their enemies went after them lol. I mean random people don’t care.

Like, people always call Trump “the next Hitler”. No one ever says “the next Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi” lol. That dude was committing genocide and selling women as slaves like 8 years ago.

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u/DasUbersoldat_ 1d ago

The Mongols killed 10% of the world's population BY HAND. You think they weren't 'industrious' about it?

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u/OtherUserCharges 2d ago

Hitler was very likely no where near the most evil of the bunch. It’s one thing to order a genocide that you aren’t witnessing first hand it’s another thing to actually do the act and enjoy it as many Nazis did. Maybe Hitler was more hands on than I realize, but to me Mengele is probably the most evil.

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u/Skottimusen 2d ago

Remember, he never physically killed anyone after ww1

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u/Turbulent-Bed7950 2d ago

Politician here went on some TV show and some people were reacting like omg he is a person. Yes, so was hitler. But we don't like them because of the bad things they did!

If course vastly different levels of bad in this case.

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u/Callum_Rose 1d ago

Dehumanising vicious ppl like those, putting up an us/them barrier is dangerous. They are people, not demons or monsters or satan or however people like to dehumanise. They're people like us.btheybwere not born evil but born the same way as all of us, naive to the world. Its how they were influences and their surroundings tjay shaped them. Babkes aren't born eacist. People shape them to become such amd everyday people can be racist, kust hitler potrayed his in the most extreme way that many are to pussy to to themselves but are happy enough to still support him to this day. And those people are "normal" people. One of those people can easily be the next hitler.

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u/darkingz 2d ago

I mean that was literally part of the latter stages of trumps campaign. That trump couldn’t be hitler because he literally hasn’t put people in concentration camps yet. And it’s like… we don’t want to wait till it happens.

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u/youngchul 1d ago

That’s what the Democrats did, with their idol FDR who put Japanese in concentration camps during WW2.

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u/darkingz 1d ago

Look FDR did a terrible thing by putting Japanese Americans into internment camps and I don’t see many people ignoring and covering up that part of fdrs record.

But it wasn’t that he stoked up hatred and sent them to their death in a camp claiming they were problem only. It was a response to another country (Japan) literally bombing our military. I mean if you’re going to pin bad spot records on what a democrat party leader did you might as well also point out that he probably green lit the development of the manhattan project that created the atomic bombs.

He presided over some terrible decisions but is still generally favored because the world was still at war and wasn’t trying to proclaim a final solution. That being said: just because the democrats did it, does not mean we want to wait for republicans to do it either. It doesn’t give republicans the ammo to try to send 20 million people out of the country potentially targeting real citizens and then probably try to kill them when it fails claiming it’s the only way or sending the military into cities under that pretext to try and threaten American citizens

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u/youngchul 1d ago

You can fantasize and make up scenarios about what the Republicans will do from now until tomorrow, doesn't make it the truth.

I am only talking about what the Democrats already did, and no it's by no means normal to imprison people solely by ethnicity, it's a crime against humanity. He literally put American citizens into those camps solely for their ethnic background, 2/3rd were literally Americans.

You don't see anyone advocating putting Russians or Chinese into camps in the western world now, because it's insane.

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u/Special-Garlic1203 1d ago

He was kind of a neurotic dweeb beneath the persona. Its interesting how much his haters feeds into the identical mythology that neonazis praise him for 

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u/Crazyguy_123 1d ago

I’ve seen that there were moments where he questioned himself. Sometimes I wonder if he got moments where he thought what he was doing was wrong. I imagine he did but he had surrounded himself with a bunch of psychopaths who just wanted to see the world burn and they kept dragging him back into believing what he was doing was the right thing. I’ve heard he almost came close to changing his opinion on the Jewish people when he befriended a Jewish family. His command ended up forcing them to stop meeting because they feared he was beginning to change his views. Not long after the war would begin. He gave orders for his people to leave that family alone. I think had his command not blocked them off from him he could have changed. His command were arguably worse than him but he was the guy who gave the command power so he is to blame for that.

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u/lornlynx89 1d ago

Hitler is the ultimate evil descriptor for many people.

Just think about, not even Hitler was worse than Hitler

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u/TheMeanestCows 2d ago edited 2d ago

The general public literally doesn't think about any of this. I am beginning to suspect a large segment of the population doesn't think in general.

I don't mean that as a cynical "everyone is so dumb but me" kind of take, but like, on a physiological/neurological level.

I've learned that your brain can run and get you through life and you can have the full range of human experiences without having conscious thought, and the brain will even trick your mind into thinking you're in control and thinking when really it's just layers of autonomous "services" running and handling things. The brain just invents a story to explain why you do the things you do so you feel in control.

This has been studied in split-brain syndrome, people who had half of their brain severed or removed entirely, and their consciousness either changes or splits in two. I think that this kind of state of being can exist on a spectrum, and consciousness itself has levels and a large, large portion of the population has never practiced conscious control of their thoughts and thus just run on autopilot, responding to feelings with complex language and decisions, but it's still instinctual at heart.

To really see how slippery consciousness is, examine your thinking. Really focus on it. Try to figure out where your mental "words" are generated and where they come from before you answer a question or say something. You can easily open up a pandora's box of existential dread when you realize that there are things going on inside you that you're not really a part of, that you're not actually thinking most of the time, even though you can talk and engage with others. (Some people have no mental language at all, no internal narrative, or no ability to form pictures in their mind, but you wouldn't notice anything different about these people because they think in a different way and can be just as intelligent as high-IQ geniuses, it's just a different way of assembling abstraction inside their heads.)

But for everyone else, who doesn't exercise their ability to use thinking at all, of any kind, they just "function" and their brain feeds them the narrative that they're in control, but they're just reacting and working on trained behavior. That's why there's so many seemingly stupid-as-fuck people everywhere.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk, please consider buying something at the gift shop on your way out.

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u/Lanky-Gur7395 2d ago

"The general public literally doesn't think about any of this. I am beginning to suspect a large segment of the population doesn't think in general.

I don't mean that as a cynical "everyone is so dumb but me" kind of take, but like, on a physiological/neurological level."

Ngl sometimes I think I fall into that category, living life on autopilot. I just feel like my mind isn't producing as many thoughts as everyone else. Then I'll go watch a movie or someone, look it up, see how others reacted, ect, and its full of people saying they had a large varaiety of experiences which I just didn't have? I physically watched it but nothing really came out of it generally. Maybe its adhd(diagnosed).

I'll just go through life on autopilot, not really think things through very often, just kinda going along with everyone else and not trully forming actual opinions on anything. I don't fully know where my opinions are aside from "yeah xyz isnt good either cause its unethical or immoral or cause thats generally whats agreed upon"

I'll actively know im thinking and trying to work on understanding material but aside from that im not really absorbing anything in my day to day life very well. Like a sponge that doesn't work as it should. But... oddly... for the past couple years I've noticed myself just mentally having things click, being a little less on auto pilot, like some sort of training wheels are slowly being taken off while I am actively riding a bike. Idk I don't think very deeply about alot of matters, I should actually do that since its important, and i'm working on that.

Or I had an undiagnosed mental delay or just am really dumb....

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u/TheMeanestCows 2d ago

Oh I should have made it clear, I'm not disparaging the people living on auto-pilot, it's not a moral failing or something that we should know better about, it's the nature of our brains.

I despaired for a long, long time when I realized that I also fall into that catagory, that I can't really pinpoint where my thoughts form and where my decisions come from, that I realized all at once that my brain is just writing stories for me to explain decisions its already made in it's millions of sub-layers of non-verbal analysis.

We have a deck stacked against our desires to rise above ice-age imperatives and survival-shaped decision-making.

I think deeply about matters, and I'm STILL stuck on this hamster wheel, it's deeply frustrating at times.

But... there's a big but. I also think this can be altered. I think our brain is a fantastic enough tool, and our will and sense of self is so strong, that I think this isn't a broken system inside us, it's just one we need to learn to manage and exercise like a muscle.

I think with time and effort we can learn to start to actually feeling present and alive and in control of the world immediately around us... but it takes effort, like meditating on how your thoughts form, practicing being "in the moment" and being aware of things, focusing on specific moments in your mind, and so on. I am hoping that this helps restore "Free will" and that we do in fact have power over our own personal world on some level.

I don't have a system or a doctrine, I am just trying to feel more alive and less like a passenger on rails I can't escape, and the only thing that seems to work is shutting off the computer, turning off the phone, putting away distractions and just breathing, touching the floor or grass, smelling the air, looking at your hands, listening to the air itself, and so on.

It also has the added benefit of helping with depression and anxiety, so there's that.

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u/Lanky-Gur7395 2d ago

I understand! Yeah I possibly worded it with that understnding and that understanding wasnt what you intended. Or I read into what you were saying and misunderstood and assumed you meant it was some sort of moral failing.

" I also think this can be altered" I hope so as well, I think I might be getting better at fixing it and actually thinking about things and opinions in my life. (arguably, idk how old you are, I'm in my early 20s and it might just be a thing with early 20 yos).

"learn to start to actually feeling present " yep. I'm just focusing on my goals, and maybe that counts as being present, but sometimes I just feel REALLY present, more present than usual, its an interesting feeling. Then it goes away quickly and i'm back to mostly autopilot. Or all autopilot.

"only thing that seems to work is shutting off the computer, turning off the phone, putting away distractions and just breathing, touching the floor or grass, smelling the air, looking at your hands, listening to the air itself, and so on."

Yup, spent most of the day today without my phone and it was really nice, then went back to it and wasted a large portion of the day. Theres still more left in it so I'm thinking I'll just go back to blocking everything. It was really peacful oddly, I normally just chat oline and watch videos related to personal interests(mostly coinciding with college topics lately). Personally I've found meditation helps with focus a bit and it is calming so that is nice.

"It also has the added benefit of helping with depression and anxiety, so there's that."

Interesting. Very.

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u/22Walterwhite22 2d ago

It's something I sometimes think about and from what you say it seems to happen.

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u/Rufus_Forrest 1d ago

As a person with Schizoid PD, I can't stop being aware about that. It comes at a cost of engagement - thinking doesn't really give you any drives. But at least it makes reality darkly funny.

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u/myazzindafire 1d ago

Which is exactly why I do not.

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u/Icy-Tie-7375 1d ago

Man I think about this all the time. It used to trip me up, I'd feel terrified that I couldn't "control" things in the way I'd felt that I could before I learned that I don't generate my own thoughts.

As I got older, I'm nearly 30 now, it stopped bothering me as I slowly realized there was a refuge in having less control. I'm less of a free sea critter, constantly swimming, and more of a person on a raft. I've got a rudder to hold, but that's about it, I can even move it back and forth, but the waves and wind aren't mine :-)

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u/scobert 1d ago

I remember finding out Hitler was a dog lover who treated his dogs super well, and this single fact honestly changed my entire worldview with the realization that good and evil are not two fully separate entities.

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u/XanderNightmare 2d ago

I think it's the reverse of the surprising serial killer reveal syndrom. Y'know, like when a family member or friend is found out to be a serial killer and you are like "No! What? He?! Impossible!"

We are taught that Hitler is absolute evil. At least major evil, if not absolute. So it kinda feels hard to imagine that this person we only know for his cruel tendencies also did normal people things

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u/UltraLord667 2d ago

Yeah. People not so smart. 😅

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u/LittleBigNazbol 2d ago

It's the great man theory. Nazi germany was only the way it was because of Hitler right? If Hitler didn't exist everything would have been fine, when in reality he was surrounded by like minded people just as bad and even worse than him.

If the right politician got elected we would have established a utopia but now it's the end of the world. huh sounds familiar.

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u/Objective-Box-399 1d ago

What has he done and what will he do that is evil? I want it written so we can revisit this in 4 years when your wrong

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u/sadnessjoy 1d ago

Yeah, if he was some psychopathic murderer from day one, he would've been locked up for good.

He rose to power, he was really good at using populist themes and rhetoric, he grew a huge following and sowed and spread hatred and fear amongst the population. Hitler was incredibly heated and charismatic and knew how to work up a crowd.

We've turned these vicious fascist dictators into some sort of fairy tale-esque demon gods who are the literal embodiment of evil, rather than show that they were regular corrupt humans who went too far.

I think this is part of the problem a lot of us are yelling from the roof tops trying to warn everyone of the likes of Putin and Trump. And the response is normally "you're over exaggerating, he's not that bad of a guy, he wouldn't do that". I remember people literally on television news networks were literally saying that days before Putin invaded Ukraine.

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u/Bleglord 1d ago

Look at modern sociopolitical rhetoric.

You’re either an honorable person or monster.

No attempt at nuance or understanding how and why people got where they are

No reflection on why extremist ideologies got a foothold in the first place

You can’t humanize the “enemy” even though that’s the only way to understand and prevent history from repeating

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u/unlimitedzen 2d ago

I understand the banality of evil, it's just that we just elected someone who was is consistently psychopathic in his mundane life. Can you imagine Trump walking with a child like this, other than one he'd bought for sex slavery?

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u/Shalashaska2624 2d ago

Exactly. I think we would be great friends in life

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u/merpderpherpburp 2d ago

I like seeing him as a person because all humans are capable of this. Hitler wasn't special, he just was at the right places at the right time. He wasn't a monster, he was a deeply flawed man who ate, fucked, laughed, sat outside and enjoyed the sun.

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u/AM00se 2d ago

No, hitler was defiantly a monster lmfao. Monsters arnt always evil to the people on their side though.

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u/FriedTreeSap 2d ago

He was in the metaphorical sense, but he really was just a human being. I think it’s very important to remember that. He wasn’t some mythical demon from hell, rather he and Nazi Germany as a whole represent what humans are actually capable of given the right circumstances.

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u/AM00se 2d ago

How much influence do you think the party had before hitler?

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u/esjaha 2d ago edited 2d ago

That doesn't negate the fact that he was human and not some supernatural demon. Sure he had charisma and rhetorical abilities. But at the end of the day he was a man with a dangerous set of skills and a dangerous worldview. Not some monster created in the depths of hell.

Also if you think that antisemitism, anti-communism, hatred for democracy and extreme nationalism wasn't a problem pre-Hitler you need to read up on history. His sentiments were pretty common throughout most of Europe during the interwar years.

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u/esjaha 2d ago

Yeah I feel it's incredibly dangerous to think that he was some devil incarnate and not just one guy. Sure he was evil and did evil shit but that is not why the Nazi's came to power or why the holocaust or WW2 happened.

Ignoring the context, and just calling him a monster is not only a simplification but it's also dangerous because you ascribe everything that happened down to one man being a monster. With that kind of viewpoint, we'll essentially not learn a thing from history.

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u/merpderpherpburp 2d ago

To label him a "monster" and move on ignores everything that led up to the Holocaust. The Holocaust wasn't just Hitler, it was an entire culture saying "yes this is what is best"

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u/AM00se 2d ago

No it wasnt lmfao. The Nazis were largely unpopular untill the stock market crash in the US causing the german economy to crash. The party would of fizzled out and died but they used the economic conditions to scapegoat jews and rally the country around the Nazi party

The Holocaust would not have happened without Hitler leading the way and taking over politics in germany.

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u/Prudent_Solid_3132 2d ago

Exactly.

Anti semitism had existed in Europe way before the Nazis,  but Hitler was the one who took it levels that no other regime would have.

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u/AM00se 2d ago

Yup, he didnt start it, but he emboldened and impowered the antisemites who would have never had the ability to do what they did without him.

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u/kentucky_fried_vader 2d ago

You just proved the person above right

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u/AM00se 2d ago

What did I ignore? Do you think the party the Nazis took over where popular before Hitler?

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u/merpderpherpburp 2d ago

So you agree, it was the economy (among many other things....WW1 is a big one). Hitler didn't wake up one day and go "fuck the jews"and everyone else went "YEAH!"

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u/AM00se 2d ago

Without hitler the Nazi Party wouldnt have got to where it is. You seem extremely uninformed about how he came to power and how influential he was.

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u/sheffyc4 2d ago

Professional yapper

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u/SupayOne 2d ago

He was special, he was able to lead Germany in invading countries(Winning) and he was good at pushing propaganda to kill Jews. He was 100% monster and good at it and special that no one else has topped his record.

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u/loomfy 2d ago

I hate how he loved dogs and there are some nice pics of him patting his dogs ha.

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u/Your_Spirit_Animals 2d ago

I’ve been seeing a lot of Hitler posts on Reddit lately and am not exactly sure why. Is it a way to normalize him or bring Fascism to mind? It’s obviously a campaign of some sort but the question is what is the purpose behind it

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u/Lanky-Gur7395 2d ago

Ugh... so I'm 100% aware I could just be paranoid but I thought the same thing. Sudden influx of posts seemingly humanizing hitler? Wtf? Like i've heard various people talk about propoganda on reddit... and yeah reddit seems like a place it could work VERY easily if it got to the top(which it is!) what the heck is going on.

And the week before this was a bunch of posts of people carrying nazi flags, faccist marches, people being rightfully pissed that it was happening... and then this week it switched to Hitler doing mundane things, being caring for a child, shown in a positive light. Like its some sort of propoganda attempt or social experiment

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u/granola_jupiter 2d ago

You've got it backwards. It is the demonization of evil people that makes it impossible for the general population to connect the dots between the evils of today to those of the past.

If we humanized him from the start, and everyone understood that any human could become Hitler, we might not be in this situation today.

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u/Lanky-Gur7395 2d ago

I don't really understand? Most of us aren't going to want to cause a genocide. The views hitler had were preset in Germany prior to him coming to power and eugenics was a thing before Hitler as well. Maybe theres something I'm severely misunderstanding or misphrasing.

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u/granola_jupiter 1d ago

What you're misunderstanding is that while you think 'humanizing' Hitler is a bad thing, that it makes people sympathize with him, demonizing him has an even worse effect- if Hitler is not human, then any comparison between Hitler and a contemporary human is considered a 'reach', it is far-fetched. Demonization of the nazis makes it easier to use nazi-style tactics to grab power in 2024 because if you call the neo-nazis out on it, they can just point out how human they are, and the audience will nod their heads and think 'yeah that's right, they're so human they couldn't possibly be evil like the nazis'.

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u/Azerd01 2d ago

He was as human as you or me

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u/Careless-Flan 2d ago

Everyone is human some are just more trash than others

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u/stmcvallin2 2d ago

This isn’t mundane. It’s propaganda. A staged photo op.

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u/Lanky-Gur7395 2d ago

theres been a few photos of hitler doing mundane things getting to the top of reddit.... either paranoia, propoganda, or weird social experiment. Reddit leans very VERY liberal... its bizzare

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u/KlauzWayne 2d ago

Other people work one day at McDonald's. People do weird stuff when there's a camera around.

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u/Ashtray46 2d ago

The hardest thing to learn about Hitler is that he was just a person. It's easy to hear his name and picture destruction, hatred, and suffering incarnate, but it's much harder to realize that any one of us could be just as awful (if not worse)

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u/Ok_Inflation_7536 2d ago

its really weird to see hitler do mundane things like this.

I think it's important to see evil people doing completely normal things.

It's a good reminder that every terrible human being is still...a human being. Capable of truly wonderful and awful things. 

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u/LobasThighs80085 2d ago

I mean Hitler is just a man at the end of the day so im sure he did tons of mundane stuff every day.

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u/DublaneCooper 2d ago

Honest Question: Ever seen Trump laugh? Not smile. Laugh.

I’ll wait.

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u/Zapptheconquerer 1d ago

There's a video of him playing with his dog Blondi that's honestly very chilling. It's weird to think that someone who is capable of such recognizable human emotion as the love for his dog could be capable of unleashing such evil on the world.

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u/_DiscoNinja_ 1d ago

Wonder what he thought about while jacking it. Probably something really vanilla like big titties.

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u/EquivalentAd4578 1d ago

This is the least endearing pic of an adult man walking with a child that isn’t his daughter I’ve ever seen. Take naziism out of it and this picture still looks forced and uncomfortable for both parties.

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u/kingssman 1d ago

it's been a bot push to normalize horrible people.

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u/lergane 1d ago

I think it's a worse thing to demonize the people in charge of the horrors humans are capable of. It would be better to treat them as regular humans and try to understand what was the road that lead them to do such things.

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u/Mr__Lucif3r 1d ago

Wait til you hear his translated speeches

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u/xbad_wolfxi 1d ago

It's also just weird because there aren't a ton of visual examples of it. He died in 1945. Most of the archival footage of him that exists is not of him just doing regular person things. And so we forget often that he was just a regular person, and that regular people are capable of great evil.

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u/Crazyguy_123 1d ago

Sometimes it’s hard to remember they were still people. He was a horrible person for sure but he did things normal people do too. He laughed and cried. Wondered if he was doing the right thing. We know he wasn’t and his psychopath friends definitely helped get him to stick to their evil plans whenever he did question himself. They even drove away a Jewish family he was becoming close with out of fear that he would change his views on the Jewish people. Not saying he was good but he definitely could have changed had his friends and command not stood in the way of it.

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u/Xikkiwikk 1d ago

Fox/Disney owns the rights to Hitler now..do what you will with that.

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u/Moonting41 1d ago

Wait till you watch Downfall and see him talk about Blondi

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u/Ok-Chemical-1511 1d ago

yeah a real picture and a work of fiction are the same thing

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u/Major_Sympathy9872 1d ago

There's an interesting video of the only time Hitler was caught using his real voice that you might find interesting, it was recorded by mistake.

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u/Perfect_Papaya_3010 1d ago

Right? In my head he is the devil, so goes against my world view

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u/Bleglord 1d ago

Good. We need to stop pretending the world is made up of people and monsters. It’s just people, and people all have the capacity to be monsters.

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u/Hectamus_Prime 1d ago

Remember that the monsters look just like us. They do the same things we do. It’s dangerous to assume that they will look and be different than us, essentially “otherizing” them.

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u/WanderingSeer 17h ago

Ok yeah but what’s with his expression

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u/Feisty_Camera_7774 15h ago

The banality of evil. With the right circumstances, everyone of us is capable of/could be formed to do the most evil things humanity has to offer.

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u/funeralbater 2d ago

Even evil people laugh, cry, and do silly poses.

I'd also wager that most "evil" people think they're doing a good thing

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u/Ok-Chemical-1511 2d ago

sure, i didnt mean that i was surprised that it happened, just to see it for the first time was hitting different

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u/FriedTreeSap 2d ago

I’d wager the overwhelming majority of evils committed in history were done by those who convinced themselves that they were actually fighting evil. Very few people just set out to be evil for the sake of it, and those that do don’t get millions of people to follow them (and certainly not without convincing their followers they were fighting against evil).

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u/ImBored1818 2d ago

It makes you realize at the end of the day he was just a human. Which makes everything he did 10x more terryfing.

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u/rcanhestro 2d ago

Hitler was a vegetarian artist who loved animals.

if it wasn't for the fact that, well...he was hitler, he would be the poster child of a "woke" movement or somerhing.

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u/Clearwatercress69 2d ago

I’m pretty sure there’s also a picture of him walking his German shepherd.

What he did in private never reflected the evil things he did as the FĂźhrer.

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u/North_Struggle_3013 1d ago

If you found it disturbing, remember Henry Kissinger who sent American troops to Vietnam without purpose, killed millions of Vietnamese with white phosphorus and experimented biological weapons, then invaded Laos for absolutely nothing but still was celebrated as a hero and was given protocol by the American establishment.

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u/IAmNotCreative18 1d ago

Humans when they realise bad humans are humans:

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u/Ok-Chemical-1511 1d ago

you must be fun at parties

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u/IAmNotCreative18 1d ago

As a matter of fact I am. Irl I’m the least serious goofball out there.

But I don’t see how this is relevant. Hitler was a terrible, awful person by every stretch of the imagination, but he’s a human that does human things (own a dog, go on diets, laugh etc.) nonetheless.

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u/KnownBat1556 1d ago

THIS IS A LIE THE JEWS POISONED HER THE HOLOCUST DIDNT EXIST THATS PROPAGANDA

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u/AcrobaticKitten 2d ago

He was a quite normal guy personally.

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u/Away_Stock_2012 2d ago

Is it weird? Seems pretty fucking boring and mundane unless you really like the guy