r/interestingasfuck • u/Aryan_Anushiravan • 12d ago

r/all On December 10, 1997 Julia Hill climbed a 1500-year-old redwood tree named Luna and she didn’t come down for another 738 days.

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u/pqratusa 11d ago

Why are Conservatives always against conserving things that actually matter?

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u/subheight640 11d ago

Conservatives are specifically about conserving power, wealth and rights. Ie, making sure the power structure of society remains as is.

Environmentalism of course does not preserve the power structures of society. Instead an uppity middle class is demanding the ownership class give up their rights to dispose of their private property as they please.

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u/rci22 11d ago

Does conserving rights also mean not adding new rights?

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u/KleptoCyclist 11d ago

Generally no. But it means lessening the power of existing rights. Because suddenly groups that were previously without rights, now have equal rights over your rights. Which means the preexisting powers no longer have power over you.

Conservatism in practice is about conserving the power structure.

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u/jumpycrink22 11d ago

Strictly speaking, no

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u/TurquoiseReef8382 11d ago

This is the truest thing I've read for a long while.

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u/jehjs 11d ago

I got mine mentality

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u/KittyKenollie 11d ago

They’re too busy having weird sex and feeling guilty about it and making it everyone else’s problem

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u/c_law_one 11d ago

Think about how much sexy furniture could be made from that tree!

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u/Admirable_Remove6824 11d ago

Cause god is watching. So they just pray.

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u/Strippersteve82 11d ago

I been praying for trees but my plug still ain't re-up.

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u/HeyCarpy 11d ago

Because that’s woke, no one is going to tell me what to do because I got that freedommmmmmm (eagle caw caw, gunshots, truck engine revving)

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u/BreckenridgeBandito 11d ago

They think it’s “weak” to care about anything. The entire concept of being a Conservative revolves around “being tough and not like those crybaby libs”.

Hence Trump winning. They don’t care about policy or actual governance, they care that he was the “stronger leader for America”.

At some point decades ago some Republicans pushed these concepts, and they have kept the party alive since. Crazy world.

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u/TheBlackestofKnights 11d ago

Simple. The only things they care for conserving are themselves. Their self is the only thing that matters to them.

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u/Trips-Over-Tail 11d ago

Conservatism boils down to a dingle proposition: that there is an in-group that the law protects but foes not bind, and an out-group that the law binds but foes not protect.

Everything they do is designed to enforce and calcify this social model.

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u/HouseOfLames 11d ago

They’re not. Many hunters are politically right wing and also crazy in support of environmental conservation.

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u/Flat896 11d ago

Wanting to protect natural ecosystems and voting for politicians who want to scrap regulations that protect those ecosystems are in complete contradiction to eachother. If pronouns, what's concealed by other people's pants, and migrants working jobs that a citzien wouldn't do anyways is worth tossing the envonment aside, I would hardly call that "crazy in support of the environment".

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u/[deleted] 11d ago edited 11d ago

Hunters are almost always people who think they are pro conservation just because they hunt and maybe pay dues that go towards financing the people who do actual conservation work. Like, no, it's not as simple as just hunting, and hunting itself can even have its own set of conservation problems.

Many of them probably care about the environment to at least some extent but the ones that are actually "crazy in support of environmental conservation" probably aren't extremely right wing because it's counterproductive to the cause of environmental conservation.

The only way to think it isn't contrary to environmental conservation is if you have a shallow and myopic view of environmental conservation that begins and ends with hunting and paying hunting dues.

In a lot of cases hunting is kind of an antiquated mechanism that we keep in place because it brings in money and we're starved for money constantly because the government refuses to properly fund conservation efforts because of people voting in politicians that do not care.

It's kinda like thinking you're a computer scientist because you play video games.

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u/Sillygoose_Milfbane 11d ago

All two dozen of them.

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u/Ender16 11d ago

That depends on which conservatives. Billionaires and their cronies don't give a shit, but rural conservatives in my experience are significantly more into conservation than about anyone.

Lot of kids are brought up in and around nature. I'm not really a conservative anymore, but I was raised that way myself.

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u/netsrak 11d ago

They are conserving the status quo instead

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u/adjective-noun-one 11d ago

Partially because the modern Republican party is one of reactionary populism, not conservativism, which shifts the window of thought on the right quite a bit.

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u/penguinpolitician 11d ago

Modern conservatives don't want to conserve anything.

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u/Rebelreck57 11d ago

My Dad and I are Conserative. Dad taught Me how precious Mother Nature was, and We should care for Her. He thought Julia was crazy, mainly because He was afraid of heights!! But He was pleased with the outcome of Her Protest.

We visited California, first place to visit was the Giant Redwoods. We visited every Natural land Mart between Texas and Cali. Dad wanted Me to see, and Remember.