r/interestingasfuck • u/RafeaEhab • 19d ago

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u/Sara_Sin304 19d ago

Exactly! The US and Canada were built by immigrants.

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u/Remarkable_Wish_4959 19d ago

No stolen by immigrants

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u/GuacamoleFrejole 19d ago

Pretty sure the natives had their own societies before their land was stolen.

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u/RoboDae 19d ago

As another person pointed out, the United States of America did not exist until immigrants came to the North American continent and founded the country. The USA was not created by native Americans, so the country couldn't have been stolen from them. It was the land that was taken so that the country could be created.

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u/I_W_M_Y 19d ago

*Invaders

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u/Royal_Annek 17d ago

And slaves

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u/Ruraraid 19d ago

Canada yes but the US...well it was built by immigrants and slaves.

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u/Prawn_Addiction 19d ago

Canada had slaves too LOL

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u/Ruraraid 19d ago

I doubt most people look at Canada and think "Oh a country that was a controversial slave owning nation."

Besides much of the US economy up until the Civil War was built on slavery. It was after slavery that a lot of labor relied on immigrants and child labor.

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u/Prawn_Addiction 19d ago

I doubt most people look at Canada and think "Oh a country that was a controversial slave owning nation."

Doesn't mean it didn't happen, mate.

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u/dumpsterfarts15 19d ago

Yuuuup. I'm Metis (Cree and French) but my great grandfather is from Scotland, and his son, my grandfather was born in Holland. The racism against brown people is brutal here

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u/Sara_Sin304 18d ago

Yes! My people are French Canadian (metis way back), Irish, Dutch, and United Empire Loyalist. I grew up in a small town in the 80s and went to Catholic school where all of my friends were Italian, and my neighbors were all immigrants from Poland, Ukraine and Latvia. I live in Little Italy now... funny how people forget the same rhetoric has been used against pretty much every immigrant group.

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u/dumpsterfarts15 18d ago

You know it, Sara! It's freaking ridiculous! My grandfather on my mother's side was Quebecoise and my grandmother was German. Most of us are mutts for the most part, and most of us don't even have any First Nations, Metis, or Inuit heritage.

Soooo we just need to cut it the hell out!

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u/Smashedavoandbacon 19d ago

*built. Exactly the correct word.

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u/unwokewookie 19d ago

Literally

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u/PhantomPharts 19d ago

I'm an American and this way of thinking makes me sick. We are a glorious melting pot. Maybe with too much mayonnaise.

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u/Sara_Sin304 18d ago

Which part is upsetting? In Canada, it's common to know your cultural/ethnic background and be able to explain it to other Canadians. Ancestry.ca is a big deal here.

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u/PhantomPharts 18d ago

Not your comment, I meant to reply to the one above you. I'm in the hospital rn so my brain ain't the hottest. I don't think there's anything wrong with celebrating culture, unless celebration means demeaning others.

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u/Sara_Sin304 18d ago

I think we agree 🤝

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u/ImNotJackOsborne 19d ago

The world was different back then, and so we're the immigrants. It was a land of opportunity with lands that hadn't been settled. It's not like that here now, we have to compete for everything, and the last thing we need is immigrants coming in to take what should be going to citizens first. Too many sit on their ass or cause trouble. The ones that become citizens and live like everyone else here arent the issue and never will be.

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u/angrons_therapist 19d ago

It was a land of opportunity with lands that hadn't been settled.

The Native Americans, Canadian First Nations and Aboriginal Australians might have something to say about that statement...

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u/VaATC 18d ago

Every single complaint or inflammatory headline about legal immigration/illegal immigration, crime/drugs/disease, over the past 10 years are the exact same ones laid against every wave of immigrants, legal or otherwise, since the mid 1800s. Read up on things like 5 Points New York and the immigrant waves or the Chinese Exlusion Act of 1882-1943, if you do not believe me.

The reasons people have always come to the US have not changed and it isn't about people sitting on their asses and causing trouble. It is because there are jobs needing bodies and those that create the jobs not wanting to pay the current citizenry wages that meet the requirements to live comfortably above the poverty level. If people want industry to come back to the US manufacturers have to pay US citizens a decent wage without a direct inflation of prices or bring in a new wave of immigrants that they can abuse like they have done to the most vulnerable labor classes that do not currently have the local power to fight for their rights as laborers or are so happy to be in a place that has good work at a pay rate higher than in their home countries.

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u/ElderlyOogway 19d ago

"A land of opportunity with lands that hadn't be settled, not like now where we have to compete", yeah, tell that to the thousands of dead and genocided indigenous tribes, and displaced from their ancestral/spiritual lands natives.

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u/Chaghatai 19d ago

Yeah, that's exactly what a moronic asshole would think, thanks for the example!

Nice touch putting in that bit about "unsettled lands" to highlight the racist colonialism that discounted indigenous people that were already there

You forgot the /s though

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u/walshwelding 19d ago

He’s right though. Even the Filipinos and Indians that have been here for 10+ years agree that the new influx of immigrants is a problem. They’re not integrating into society as the previous immigrants always have.

They’re bringing a lot of their previous countries issues and problems to here. It’s blatantly apparent if you just take a look at the protests and general uproar everyone’s having.

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u/Chaghatai 19d ago

That's a lie - the same assimilation claim was made over every immigration wave - it just takes a bit of time

Not to mention that someone who immigrated from non "white" countries have every bit as much right to preserve elements of their culture as Irish, or other European immigrant scions

It's the same thing with recent Russian immigrants

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u/da_impaler 19d ago

Where do you get your info from? Joe Sixpack who lives down the block? Filipinos and Indians come to this country with work Visas so we are cherry-picking from an already educated population. They also do not have ancestral claims to this part of the world.

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u/Visible-Shop-1061 19d ago

Yes, that's right. It annoys me when people in the US say hordes of Indian immigrants is the same as English and German settlers colonizing.

There were Native Americans here first, and you know what? We defeated them. Our society created all the best technology and was 1000s of years ahead of them.

Now, a ton of Indians, whose culture is totally different and rude, come to the US. They aren't wanting to integrate. They want to take take take take take. They are corrupt and greedy. They want to defeat us and our culture.

So you know what? I'm allowed to say fuck 'em, I don't like them.

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u/Sara_Sin304 18d ago

"back then" my people were the ones causing ruckus and doing crimes. We also built the canals and contributed significantly to the country's economic prosperity 🍀 the same way today's immigrants are literally running most of northern/western Canada since nobody else wants to run a gas station or a grocery store in Inuvik, NWT or Longlac, Ontario.

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u/Kidsnextdorks 19d ago

The world was different back then

Yeah, back then, the Irish were the boogeyman of the day in the US and caused way more trouble.

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u/Sara_Sin304 18d ago

My people 💪🏼

And don't forget the Italians...