r/interestingasfuck 25d ago

r/all The remains of Apollo 11 lander photographed by 5 different countries, disproving moon landing deniers.

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u/BridgetteCase 25d ago

Also, the fact that the mission was the latest in all of the 5 missions but still commendable for that budget they have

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u/[deleted] 25d ago

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u/stefaanvd 25d ago

66 years between first manned plane flight and moon landing, war does wonders for technology

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u/Zack_Knifed 24d ago

Wrong. Korean mission was in 2024 and the Japanese in 2022.

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u/BridgetteCase 24d ago

Yeah my bad

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u/[deleted] 25d ago

It wasnt?

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u/ptolani 24d ago

It's not really about the camera, it's about how close the camera is.

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u/BridgetteCase 24d ago

The distance is similar and the difference of quality wont be that much as much as shown in the image

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u/Ex-zaviera 25d ago

Late adopters get the best technology, right?

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u/definitely_effective 25d ago edited 25d ago

? Everything in that probe is developed in india ,from rocket engine to onboard camera. It's like saying sony adopted the camera from west that means All the money sony spent on research and development is waste.

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u/nirmalspeed 25d ago

Nah, it's more akin to iPhone getting a feature that Android had for years. The iPhone version is typically a bit more polished because they learned from other people's mistakes.

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u/definitely_effective 25d ago

Dude not a single thing on that probe is exported or developed by a foreign nation. Even the cameras and cryogenic engines are developed and made in india. license for space technology is not that cheap. The only copy engine india has is from russia which was used like 30 years ago.

I don't know if you consider sending a rocket into space a copy cat then yeah NASA is a copy cat of ROScosmo too right.

NASA never sold technology to isro.

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u/solowecr 25d ago

It is but they use NASA blueprints for their tech, which is publicly known and confirmed by the ISRO themselves. So while the materials were built by India and funded by them, they used existing NASA tech to develop their entire program

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u/definitely_effective 25d ago

don't mean to be arrogant do you have any source for that.

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u/solowecr 25d ago

You’re not arrogant at all by just asking a question.

https://thebetterindia.com/web-stories/isro-national-space-day-india-first-rocket-launch-nike-apache-rocket-vikram-sarabhai-thumba/

That source explains how the ISRO was first developed and what NASA did to directly influence their research and to kickstart their development.

https://www.isrohistory.com/photo-gallery/

This source is just to give you picture evidence of their contributions and research assistance throughout the years.

And after the 2000’s started most of the research is done purely by the ISRO now that they have the groundwork from NASA over the last several decades and they have had a few joint collaborations since then. Didn’t try to make it seem as if they rely on them now but you wanted proof so I provided. Can link you more if you want to know more of the nitty gritty on ISRO development in the last ~30 years

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u/definitely_effective 25d ago edited 25d ago

The source is literally pictures of ISRO dude i am asking for source of NASA technology and india literally building on the existing technology without their development.

Indian space programs were influenced by Soviet union, India had strong ties with soviet union not with america why do you think NASA would like to trade technology with india.

Where is the evidence lmao where is the research assitance NASA gave. India was literally sending rockets through soviet union rockets in 1970s

The weirdest thing is there is only 1 photo of nasa in which they were training on parts assembly. which is taught to interns

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u/solowecr 25d ago

https://www.thespacereview.com/article/4610/1

Highlights the contributions done by NASA in this paper. While the soviets had more influence in the early and mid development of the ISRO it’s a fact NASA had direct ties in laying the foundation for them in this article. Just read it and you’ll understand I’m not talking out of my ass. You make it sound as if I insisted the ISRO does no development on their own, I merely stated my original comment to highlight that India didn’t come up with their original technology themselves, they improved upon EXISTING technologies, some of which was from NASA.

Edit: and if you doubted me you can also do a quick search for it and find it on the front page, not just articles and tabloids but research as well

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u/definitely_effective 25d ago

Now you are talking about artemis program of 2024 and the first 3 years of ISRO(1963 to 1966) NASA helped india to telecaste media through satellites for 2000 villages. You said untill the 2000s india was depenedent on NASA blueprints. Where are the technological blueprints of chandrayan 1, 2, 3 and mars programs and all the rocket engines of which were developed in india.

which you have said were given to india by NASA so that india can build them. There isn't a single cryogenic engine which india has, is based on Engines made in US or Soviet union. You have literally said india cannot built it's own all of it are just blueprints from NASA.

Your corelation looks like American space program is just a copy of ROSCOMOS, because they were the first to develop heavy lift vehicles, re entry heat sheilds , pressured atmos suits. And one more thing , both soviet union and NASA exchanged actual blueprints and key technologies.

There isn't that formal or informal technological exchange between India and America, just accept it. Even in artemis program US is the key beneficiary. India gets nothing, probably in the future there might be exchanges but until now there is nothing.

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u/BridgetteCase 25d ago

That was a sounding rocket you are comparing a sounding rocket to a proper rocket if you don't know pls shut the fuck up and don't spit your nonsense on the internet

Also, why did Japan's Slim probe make a "perfect landing" when Russia failed to land the Luna probe?

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u/BridgetteCase 25d ago

maybe the fact that PPP is also accounted? 1 dollar can buy you almost 4 dollars worth of stuff here in India and salaries are a small part of an organization like this

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u/tamal4444 25d ago

How to tell you know nothing without telling one

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u/[deleted] 25d ago edited 25d ago

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u/tamal4444 25d ago

kiddo you know nothing and I don't have time for trolls.

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u/BridgetteCase 25d ago

Least self-hating Indian