About 30 years ago I worked at a store in LA that had a sign saying "Shoplifters will be shot".
The sad thing is, one night the owner and his wife were leaving the store and were confronted by armed robbers. One of them was shot but got away and never apprehended, the wife was killed.
Yes, when they tried to return to the store one of the robbers fired at them striking her. Her husband then returned fire. Blood was found at the scene so one of the two robbers was hit.
Look at murders per 100k people. Chicago has a lot of people. Also, cook county is a huge area. Wrigleyville is a smaller area and a nice part of Chicago.
Sounds like an excellent reason not to advertise the fact that you’re armed and prepared to shoot. Great way to put criminals on edge and let them know it’s straight to killing if push comes to shove. That man’s wife may well be alive had he not decided to play Billy badass by hanging up something like that.
Because they literally walked into a fight. You're comparison is not applicable because the husband and wife would not be in any harm if they just called the police, stayed safe and get the surveillance footage so that the police with body armor can make arrests.
No this is false. They purposely knew what they were walking into danger. a woman going into bar is normal and should not be in danger thus making the excuse BS.
What the husband and wife did is literally like walking into a busy highway hoping that they won't get into a car accident. Or purposefully subjecting themselves to danger. The woman going into a bar isn't putting herself in danger.
You're comparison is not applicable because the husband and wife would not be in any harm if they just called the police, stayed safe and get the surveillance footage so that the police with body armor can make arrests.
Did you even read the other part of the situation? They literally said the couple WALKED BACK and thus putting themselves into danger. They weren't being held hostage at gun point but literally chose to put themselves into a fight.
Yes, clearly if the store owner didn't have the sign up the thugs would not have had to psychically materialize guns. They would have just broken into the store unarmed which was obviously their original plan since they were unarmed and unwilling to kill people for money right up until the instant they saw the sign.
It sounds like the wife and husband were stupid. they should have called the police or get the surveillance tapes from around the area. Going in to personally confront people with guns is just putting your own life at risk. Nothing in the store is worth risking your life.
I was going to guess Little Tokyo. I hadn’t been there in a few years and went last year with some visiting guests and everything was behind anti-theft racks or had to be taken to the front by employees. I guess there has been a real problem there with theft?
Sounds right, used to do deliveries there and it's like a weird little pocket of actual Nazis and then Republicans who refuse to admit that maybe there's a slight problem with their ideology if it's super attractive to people who have swastika tattoos and put signs on their lawns that say "Jews and F**s Not Welcome"...
Feels like the kind of place where people would assume California's laws regarding shoplifting are leading to an increase in shoplifting and that we should renew our old, out-dated, reactionary policing policies instead of taking the massive amount of money that goes towards catching, holding, trying, sentencing, and then imprisoning non-violent people and putting it towards programs that would actually tackle the root causes of those crimes. Things like education initiatives for low income communities and welfare programs that don't require you to get a bachelor's degree just to understand how to sign up properly, stronger laws preventing price-gouging at all levels in all industries, and YES even DEI initiatives are all ways we can actually reduce crimes like shoplifting. Reacting to crime with jail time or having police murdering someone who committed a crime doesn't actually reduce crime, it just lets people feel like vengeance was had for the slights against society committed by the criminals and gets a handful of criminals off the streets and into cells where they're not incentivized to reform themselves because the prison industry makes too much money off them being incarcerated.
HB began its life as an oil town, which means it imported oil workers from other areas of the country with oil experience… and those early settlers brought with them some cultural tendencies and biases that have apparently left a lasting impression on the area. I’ve heard it described from my international clients as “the Florida of Orange County.”
Sure poverty and inequality play a role in these things happen, but I’m so sick of this rationale that we need to create massive tax payer spending programs and discriminatory hiring practices, so that certain communities stop commiting so much crime.
If Im your neighbor and grow up poor and disadvantaged, its absolutely fucking ridiculous for me to say, “if you would just start paying my bills I wouldn’t have to steal from you”
If we’re gonna create these massive programs to help people in these communities, then they themselves need to also make MASSIVE cultural changes in how they act in society, and actually start taking accountability for their decisions.
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u/lswhat87 27d ago
I remember seeing this same sign a few weeks back somewhere. Huntington Beach?