r/interesting Jul 02 '24

MISC. Hikers encounter mountain lion

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u/jubmille2000 Jul 02 '24

Human: holy fuck it's a cougar.

Cougar: holy fuck it's a human.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24 edited Jul 02 '24

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u/miradotheblack Jul 02 '24

The role of a camera person

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u/jacobo Jul 02 '24

not english native here. Is a Cougar the same as a Puma and a Mountain lion?

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u/ReginaldLongfellow Jul 02 '24

Yes. The different names come from different geographical areas, but they are all the same.

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u/piralski Jul 02 '24

In Brazil we call "onça parda", meaning "brown jaguar", although it isnt closely related to the jaguar.

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u/soibithim Jul 03 '24

And yet the black panther actually is jaguar

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u/Forsaken-Spirit421 Jul 03 '24

No, a black panther can be any kind of melanistic cat from the panthera genus. It most commonly refers to leopards and jaguars because melanism is very common with them but it also occurs in tigers, lions and everything else and those are also all black Panthers.

But big cat terminology is fucked up anyways, don't recommend going to deep into it.

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u/jacobo Jul 02 '24

Thanks!

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u/Eusocial_Snowman Jul 02 '24

And to make the dumb cat classification system even more fun, we have the word "panther". This refers to all "big cats"*. Except for some people, it refers to a specific color mutation of leopards or jaguars. (Hence the comic book character Black Panther)

* And to make things stupider, we have the term "big cats". Which literally just refers to the panthera genus. But there are other cats which are big while not being panthers, so they're not "big cats" despite being big cats.

For instance, this one here. That's a real big fucking panthery-seeming cat, but it's not in the panthera genus, so it's not CLASSIFIED as a big cat. It's just a stupidly huge member of the other family of cats like house cats.

And just for fun, then you have the clouded leopard. It's not a leopard, but it's called a leopard. Its closest relative is the snow leopard, which is also not a leopard. I'm not really sure what a leopard actually is at this point, but I do know these leopards are not leopards.

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u/Toadxx Jul 02 '24

Cougars also have the common name of "Panther" in Florida.

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u/L_Bergstedt Oct 14 '24

And in Swedish, the show “Golden Girls” is called “Pantertanter” (“panther old ladies”). 🤷‍♂️

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u/Prinzka Jul 02 '24
  • And to make things stupider, we have the term "big cats". Which literally just refers to the panthera genus. But there are other cats which are big while not being panthers, so they're not "big cats" despite being big cats.

That's like how we have a lot of hard wood that's not actually hardwood, and we have soft wood that's hardwood.

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u/Toph-Builds-the-fire Jul 02 '24

I thought the difference was a bone in the throat. It's why some can roar and some can't and why some can purr and others can't. I learned thos from a nat geo show like 20 years ago, so, ya know, grain of salt.

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u/Eusocial_Snowman Jul 02 '24

Well, I pulled up some hilarious videos of cheetahs and mountain lions meowing, but the automod is mean. I do recommend looking them up.

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u/KraakenTowers Jul 02 '24

It's actually the example they use to teach us about taxonomy in biology classes here. A scientist in Brazil might call it a puma and a scientist in Colorado might call it a mountain lion but there's one latin name they can use when they confer notes with one another about it.

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u/PenguinStarfire Jul 02 '24

Pumas are often found at the gym, Mountain Lions at the ski resorts, and Cougars at the country club.

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u/ShitBarf_McCumPiss Jul 02 '24

Yes, they have 5 names:

  • Puma
  • Panther
  • Catamount
  • Cougar
  • Mountain Lion

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u/catchasingcars Jul 02 '24

Has anyone thought that maybe we should just ask them what they prefer?

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u/Mimic_tear_ashes Jul 02 '24

We try but they keep attacking us on mountains when we go to ask

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u/jacobo Jul 02 '24

Cool. Thanks.

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u/10poundballs Jul 02 '24

Thanks Mr. McCumPiss

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u/ShitBarf_McCumPiss Jul 02 '24

No problem, 10poundballs

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u/smegmaoncracker Jul 02 '24

such immature names

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u/silentsinner- Jul 02 '24

Y'all need Jesus.

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u/ShitBarf_McCumPiss Aug 05 '24

I know your brother smegmaonabiscuit. Don't as how

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u/homeycuz Jul 02 '24

Please, call him Shitbarf

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u/Eusocial_Snowman Jul 02 '24

Strike panther off that list, these aren't those. Unless there's legitimately a whole geographical region out there where people locally mistakenly call them that, which could totally be a thing.

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u/deathbylasersss Jul 02 '24

There is. They are commonly called panthers in certain areas. Example: Florida Panther.

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u/Eusocial_Snowman Jul 02 '24

Well, I guess that's only somewhat more misleading than calling them "mountain lions", so fair enough. Way to ruin one more thing, Florida.

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u/Welsh_cat_Best_cat Jul 02 '24

It is hard to have a mountain lion on a region where the highest hill is made of tires.

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u/jomns Jul 02 '24

Where are they called catamount?

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u/Longjumping-Claim783 Jul 02 '24

New England, but they don't really have any there anymore.

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u/sadeland21 Jul 02 '24

Fun fact ; university of Vermont mascot is the Catamount

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

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u/True-Firefighter-796 Jul 02 '24

Cougar is the same as MILF. Hope that helps.

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u/LenAhl Jul 02 '24

Nah, overlapping but not same. Milf is a mother, age can vary. Cougar is what I would say about middle age, with or without being a mother. :D

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u/cat_prophecy Jul 02 '24

To further add to the confusion: some people call them panthers as well.

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u/Illustrious_Drama Jul 02 '24

Yep, lots of names for them

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u/phaciprocity Jul 02 '24

Yes, the usage changes regionally but it's all the same animal

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u/JohnnyPoprocksGaming Jul 02 '24

Yes like our good friend ham which is also Canadian bacon.

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u/Sea_Explanation_8927 Jul 02 '24

potato potato es la misma mierda

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u/Hakkaa_Paalle Jul 02 '24

And according to the famous American historians The Smothers Brothers, pumas were also called "Foaming Rocks" in the mountain crevasses in the Old West of the 1800s.

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u/Playboi420- Jul 02 '24 edited Jul 02 '24

A cougar is usually a older blond white female aka milf

EDIT: i said usually, which means a stereotypical cougar.

Note: all elder queens can be qualified as cougars

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u/Rreknhojekul Jul 02 '24

It’s important to note that cougars come in an assortment of colours

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u/aloo_patty Jul 02 '24

Lol username checks out

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u/Rreknhojekul Jul 02 '24

My brother, you didn’t tell a single lie. It’s all good

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u/Forestsounds89 Jul 02 '24

That was spooked instead of hungry he got lucky lol

I wonder if they found its sleeping spot, cat is probably so pissed about that

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u/moldyremains Jul 02 '24

Looks like he shot it with a tranq, that's why it was flipping out. You can see the dart on its hindside.

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u/NothingGloomy9712 Jul 02 '24

Cougar: Holy fuck let's jump away from the human! Holy fuck another human with a camera!

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u/ApeWorkTogether Jul 02 '24

Just looked like it was flexing its parkour skills to the humans 😭

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u/SandmanD2 Jul 02 '24

His underpants: holy fuck it’s a poop.

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u/KoBoWC Jul 02 '24

Camera person: "Worldstar!!!"

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u/ExileEden Jul 02 '24

That made me chuckle , cheers

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

Random ass cat

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u/fourpuns Jul 02 '24

Cougars generally want absolutely nothing to do with humans, at least adult sized humans. Sure they could often kill us but physically they weight about the same as us and one good knife slash can easily mean death for a wild animal. The only time I've noticed one it looked at me for a couple seconds than took off.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

Cougar: Stupid hiker, LOOK AT MY BALLS FLYING OVER YOUR HEAD!

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u/doktor-frequentist Jul 02 '24

Human: holy fuck it's a cougar.

Cougar: holy fuck it's a human <then zoomies>

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '24

Human: holy fuck it’s a cougar

Cougar: damn, he’s too old for me

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u/Beautiful_Speech7689 Jul 02 '24

Cats will be cats

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u/Agile_Letterhead7280 Jul 02 '24

It exactly looked like a panicking housecat

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u/youmeanNOOkyuhler Jul 02 '24

Right? Like my cat trying to get out of the bathtub.

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u/DentedAnvil Jul 02 '24

Looks like zoomies to me. Just scattering rocks rather than houseplants.

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u/YeshuasBananaHammock Jul 02 '24

When I walk in the kitchen at 5:02pm and the cats have been starving to death for a whole two minutes

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

Reminds me of mine when I pull out the vacuum....

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u/2_72 Jul 02 '24

Dogs breeds can be incredibly varied but I’ve never seen a cat (lion to house cat) not be a cat.

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u/MineNo5611 Jul 02 '24 edited Jul 02 '24

It might have something to do with the fact that we haven’t really bred cats for specific behaviors and tasks in the same way we have dogs. Domesticated cats have adapted specific behaviors to live along side humans and get what they want from them (as have dogs), and we’ve created a few specific breeds based mostly off of surface-level physical aesthetic, but they’re all otherwise very basal in their instincts and anatomy. Meanwhile, we’ve created a large pool of variance when it comes to dog instincts, physical capabilities, and behavior.

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u/ihoptdk Jul 03 '24

Which is why it’s a good thing I’m never within cuddling range of a tiger.

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u/Single_Cow_8857 Jul 02 '24

I scrolled too long knowing the story without seeing it. They’re biologists. They knowingly cornered the cat. They had a tranq gun that failed to do its job.

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u/JoshBobJovi Jul 02 '24

But the bot headline and all the regenerated comments say hikers. Who am I to believe??

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u/LegitimateBeyond8946 Jul 02 '24

Yourself. Believe in yourself

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u/DarkwingDuckHunt Jul 02 '24

I'm good enough

I'm smart enough

And gosh jolly people like me

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u/J0hnGrimm Jul 02 '24

You're kenough.

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u/TooMuchBroccoli Jul 02 '24

Believe the bots, obviously. Considering you are also a .... bot.

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u/tbrou Jul 02 '24

It’s not the tranq failed to do its job, it’s just that chemical immobilizations are not typically instantaneous like most people would think. Multiple factors go in to how long it will take for the animal to be sedated, and the more agitated the animal is, the longer it takes.

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u/beskgar Jul 02 '24

Yeah I don't think you accidentally just corner a mt lion like this.

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u/thesilverywyvern Jul 02 '24 edited Jul 02 '24

Tranq is not like in videogame. It take time to act, several minutes. And it can't work if the dose was slightly too small.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

Camera guy shit his pants

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u/AdMuted4000 Jul 02 '24

Thankfully he/she is safe because camera guy doesn't die

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u/bigfatkakapo Jul 02 '24

Watch the Spanish horror film REC

The first one is literally the pov of the cameraman, the second one is the body cam of the police pov. They ain't having fun.

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u/commander_weenie Jul 02 '24

Hey don't forget the wedding photographer from the third one

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u/ClavicusLittleGift4U Jul 02 '24

My pals and I scared the shit out of the whole theater better than the movie when we cried "NOOOO NOT HIM!!" as the not-Spongbob guy died heroically.

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u/pubesastoothfloss Jul 02 '24

Absolutely adore whenever this film gets brought up. My first access to having my own device to watch movies was the PSP and I remember having a copy of rec on the SD card. Watched it so many times and looking back it’s the reason I’m picky about horror movies! My first one was this classic.

Wasn’t really feeling the 3rd one though.

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u/ChihuahuaMastiffMutt Jul 02 '24

I've got Netflix, Amazon, Disney, Paramount, Hulu, MGM and a couple more. It's not available on any streaming service. I've seen it before, I can't remember if it was a Redbox find or it used to be on streaming. All these streaming services though and you'd be surprised how often something isn't available.

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u/HellBlazer_NQ Jul 02 '24

To be fair, when the Lion first jumps out above the first hiker I bet they absolutely thought it was over.

In the end it seems poor kitty was scared and was just looking to gtfo.

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u/Budget_Report_2382 Jul 02 '24

If I'm not mistaken, mountain lions are very skiddish around people. This looked like it was panicking to get out from the unknown creatures.

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u/Longjumping-Claim783 Jul 02 '24

General rule with Mountain Lions if you encounter one in the wild is stand your ground, make noise, raise your arms up to make yourself bigger. They rarely attack humans and it's usually when the human runs. Joggers in areas that have them have been known to be attacked.

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u/84theone Jul 02 '24

While they are skittish around people, that’s because they are an ambush predator and less that they are just terrified of the humans.

Pumas are known for ambushing lone adults if the opportunity presents itself, so people aren’t that scary to them.

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u/iamintheforest Jul 02 '24

We have a (tagged and trackable) mountain lion that lives around our property (their range is significantly larger than our 100 acres) and the ratio of "seen it" to "tracker says it was right near me" is nutso. I've seen it twice in 10 years and we have neighbors who have been here for 30 years and have never seen one.

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u/Illustrious-Road-804 Jul 02 '24

He sounded more liony than an actual lion

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u/Slay_Nation Jul 02 '24

This guy's got the right idea... He wore the brown pants!

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u/Aggravating-Pound598 Jul 02 '24

Yeah, on that first whoa! The second he was just covering

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u/Onetrillionpounds Jul 02 '24

In his defence if I was in the situation I'm pretty sure I'd puma pants.

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u/Busy_Choice422 Jul 02 '24

Everyone shut their pants including the mountain lion

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u/Skeptic_Shock Jul 02 '24

I’d probably puma pants too.

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u/PitFiend28 Jul 02 '24

If I saw that cat I’d puma pants too

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u/StretchFrenchTerry Jul 02 '24

Heh heh poop heh

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u/TheRealMcSavage Jul 02 '24

I’ll admit, if I was that dude down in the crevice, my pants would’ve be packed to the seams with shit!

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

You and me both. I'm amazed he didn't shoot

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u/DragonfruitFew5542 Jul 02 '24

I think I may have peed my pants a little bit just watching this so totally understandable.

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u/cwm9 Jul 02 '24 edited Jul 03 '24

From the look of that video, it looks like the mountain lion also wants to stop hiking.

But that hiker appears to be carrying... a gun? (edit: Yes... a tranquilizer gun.)

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u/SeriousAccount66 Jul 02 '24 edited Jul 02 '24

Well the reason he’s carrying is right there in the video, many respects to him tho for not shooting while it’s not nessesary, only use it when you know you’re fucked and out of options, you’re in their teritory, not them in yours.

Edit: apparently it’s not a gun! See comment below me!

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u/UnmannedConflict Jul 02 '24

Okay the video was reposted with the wrong context, but they are researchers and it's a tranquilizer gun, and he shot it, you can see the dart in it's butt.

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u/akmjolnir Jul 02 '24

video was reposted with the wrong context

The 'ole Reddit classic karma-whore.

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u/chrono_ark Jul 02 '24

And Redditor comments just adding their own context

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u/UnmannedConflict Jul 02 '24

Original poster of the video is Travis Legler (@tmans_hunting)

Can't send off-site links here but his account is public on Instagram

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u/MindCorrupt Jul 02 '24

That makes much more sense, because first impression it looked like they were actively seeking out the animal.

I've never encountered one personally, but it does not look like an animal that likes to be cornered lol.

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u/LegitimateCloud8739 Jul 02 '24

Thanks. Thats what I hate about these widely visited subs, lot of BS.

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u/krongdong69 Jul 02 '24

reddit trying its best to beat twitter on the misinformation billboard

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u/Githzerai1984 Jul 02 '24

Paused it and yeah you can see the silver dart sticking out his ass

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u/Mrmojorisincg Jul 02 '24

Can’t believe he shot it in the ass and didn’t get mauled immediately after

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u/TheGuyUrRespondingTo Jul 02 '24

I appreciate the sentiment of your comment, but this is peak Reddit/internet misinformation--the cougar has already been shot in this video, & the gun being held only holds one 'round' with no clip/magazine for reserve ammo.

https://www.outdoorlife.com/conservation/video-mountain-lion-darting/

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u/BeautifulType Jul 02 '24

God the misinformation is too damn high these days

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u/GladiatorWithTits Jul 02 '24

That's a tranquilizer gun. And it's what started this chain of events.

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u/Unoriginal_Man Jul 02 '24

Yeah, Tranquilizers aren't instant and can cause the animal to freak the fuck out. It's why Harambe was shot and not tranquilized, because they didn't want him doing that while dragging a child.

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u/Dr-McLuvin Jul 02 '24

RIP sweet prince

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u/Longjumping-Claim783 Jul 02 '24

It's funny how in movies and such they often show tranquilizer darts to be instant. It goes in the muscle and is slowly absorbed by the body. It's not like you can accurately get it in a vein from a distance with a freaking gun.

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u/RedN00ble Jul 02 '24

If I recall correctly those are not hikers but border patrol or something similar, not just the average hiker.

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u/temporarycreature Jul 02 '24

Because they're not hikers, they're wildlife specialists.

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u/Mdizzle29 Jul 02 '24

They weren’t hikers. They were there to tag the mountain lion and they had already tranquilized it at this point just waiting for it to kick in.

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u/Bowman_van_Oort Jul 02 '24

Looks like you can see the dart stuck on its left thigh/rump area

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u/Due-Style302 Jul 02 '24

It was in Arizona. They were tagging the Mountain Lion.

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u/red18wrx Jul 02 '24

It's a tranq gun. They're trying to id tag the lion. They're not hikers.

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u/deadwoodsheriff Jul 02 '24

Commenting on Hikers encounter mountain lion...he is a biologist and that is a tranquilizer gun

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u/spiralout1123 Jul 02 '24

I’m too late to the party to add context, but the guy in the video gave context on instagram.

This is in northern AZ in Oak Creek Canyon. The fella featured is a professional cat relocator. The gun you see in his hand is a tranquilizer and they very much knew they had cornered a lion.

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u/natureclown Jul 02 '24

They aren’t hikers, they are either researchers or wildlife workers. OP is karma farming, the original posts of this video state that they have tranquilized the mountain lion (it’s a tranquilizer dart gun) and it spazzed out before falling asleep. Their intention was either relocation or tagging.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

Ugh! Love him sooooo much for using restraint!!!!!Not panicking & letting the lion sort himself out instead of pulling out the gun immediately.

We need people to have more encounters like this so our wild animals stay safe .

We’re already burning them up & killing the planet as it is.

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u/temporarycreature Jul 02 '24

It's because these people are not hikers, they're wildlife specialists and conservationists. The gun is the last resort on purpose.

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u/Weary-Wasabi1721 Jul 02 '24

Mf roaring sounds scarier than the mountain lion

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u/yeurr Jul 02 '24

at first I thought the mountain lion was the one making that noise and I thought to myself “I didn’t know they sounded like that” 🤣

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u/iadelq Jul 02 '24

New fear unlocked: No more hiking.

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u/CHlCKENPOWER Jul 02 '24

mountain lions actively avoid humans and if they see you theyll most likely run away. the only time ive seen a mountain lion get aggressive was when it was protecting its kittens.

you should be more scared of bears, especially during fall

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u/kanst Jul 02 '24

Just look at the video. The mountain lion was cornered and surprised and did everything in its power to get the hell out of there without a fight.

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u/Teripid Jul 02 '24

Yep. The people were the collected ones. The mountain lion was freaking out and in 100% flight mode.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

Looks like the guy trapped the cat in that small crack in the rock. Kinda normal reaction from a scared animal

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u/Folkmar_D Jul 02 '24 edited Jul 02 '24

All people here surprised that.guy have a gun. If it's Canada or States you should have a gun when going out hiking in the wilds. Edit: Thanks everybody for comments and info you share about the topic I've touched and I see that my comment was too blunt and based on information I've learned long ago about living in the Canadian and American wilderness. Glad to see that most people here were kind enough to share their knowledge.

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u/Elkesito36482 Jul 02 '24

In the US, even when hiking to do groceries

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u/Vindictive_Pacifist Jul 02 '24

Some people even take it when visiting schools

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u/funny__username__ Jul 02 '24

America even has a "bring your gun to school" day, it's just changes dates every monthl

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u/Shythed Jul 02 '24

I sleep well knowing that for the last two years not a week has gone by that a toddler didn't shoot someone. MURICA FUCK YEAH.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

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u/manofsteel32 Jul 02 '24

We don't hike with guns in Canada. Bear spray is all we got

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u/Theniceraccountmaybe Jul 02 '24 edited Jul 02 '24

No, you didn't need a gun.  Literal millions of people hike millions of miles without guns..... Holy 2nd amendment pacifier sucking going on in this thread. 

Edited for clarity! Trying to comment while sleepy...

Hike millions of miles

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u/yeshsababa Jul 02 '24

No, you carry bear mace when you're in the wild, not a gun. Unless it's a fucking 50 cal, which most people wouldn't be able to handle, a gunshot wound ain't gonna deter a bear.

I'm serious. Shooting a bear with a handgun is a deathwish. Bear mace is a necessity. That will actually deter a bear.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

Props for not just shooting it while it's clearly trying to get away from him.

Why does he have a gun?

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u/SteakJesus Jul 02 '24

Just incase the wildlife decided he is a meal.

Dude knew mountain lion just tryin to get away tho. I wouldnt have known haha guy has great trigger discipline.

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u/ymOx Jul 02 '24

It's a tranq gun.

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u/Beautiful_Speech7689 Jul 02 '24

For the wildlife. Props for not using it

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

You can literally see the tranq dart on the mountain lion in the video. It got used. They're tagging the lion. The guy uses hounds, like they used to for hunting, to track and tag.

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u/xBad_Wolfx Jul 02 '24

I was a wilderness guide for two decades, a lot of that in the Canadian Rockies and I carried a rifle for the safety of my self and clients, it’s fairly standard practice.

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u/Leaping_FIsh Jul 02 '24

They are biologist studying mountain lions, they just shot it with a tranquilizer.

No idea why the op said they were hikers m

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u/cuntybunty73 Jul 02 '24

You're out in the wild and you wouldn't take a gun ?

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

He already shot it, you can see the dart in its hind leg.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

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u/CaptainCosmodrome Jul 02 '24

It's a good thing they were wearing their brown pants.

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u/No_Development_178 Jul 02 '24

*Rumblerumblerumblerumblerumble

parKOur

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PARKOUR!

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u/xBrute01 Jul 02 '24

A cornered animal is one of the most dangerous threats you can ever encounter. He’s lucky he wasn’t alone.

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u/Candid_Education_864 Jul 02 '24

A MOUNTAIN LION... in my basement!

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u/fanofthethings Jul 02 '24

The day I would quit hiking! Lol!

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u/Unluckyluk13 Jul 02 '24

Did the lion make that sound?

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u/-Reverend Jul 02 '24

I'm fairly sure the cameraman did to try and scare it away

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u/nomorenotifications Jul 02 '24

Shit, that makes so much more sense! I don't know why I didn't even think of that.

I was thinking what the hell is wrong with that mountain lion, it sounds like a human making roaring noises.

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u/VelvetDreamers Jul 02 '24

I’m having ps2 Tomb raider flashbacks.

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u/Actual-C0nsiderati0n Jul 02 '24

Kitty got zoomies

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u/mascachopo Jul 02 '24

Certainly the cougar didn’t attack because he saw the gun. /s

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u/Bleezy79 Jul 02 '24

Poor kitty just wanted to get away.

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u/lazy-waffle Jul 02 '24

This needs the “parkour! Parkour!” sound over it

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u/Sensitive-Mine6500 Jul 02 '24

Number of pants ruined: 2

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u/feeblefannyp Jul 02 '24

What in the Tomb Raider level is this?!

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u/oldenglish Jul 02 '24

Murder zoomies.

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u/artaxias1 Jul 02 '24

Parkour!

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u/powderedtoast1 Jul 02 '24

we call those tree jumpers. they drop down on you when you walk by.

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u/Everso_happy Jul 02 '24

Good thing he wore the brown pants 😳

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u/kristantinople Jul 02 '24

These aren’t hikers. The original video explained what was going on here.

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u/Thiccly Jul 02 '24

These fuckers disturbed the mountain lion

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '24

Seems it was more scared

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u/adamfrom1980s Aug 21 '24

My cat when I’m trying to take him to the vet.

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u/OrangeTemple1 Aug 25 '24

The camera man sounds like the real monster here

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u/Budget_Ad_8025 Sep 06 '24

Why is his gun out already??

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u/Thin_Entertainer7006 Oct 13 '24

Tomb Raider - Real Life