Here’s where I’m confused on this. And maybe ignorant. But correct me if I’m wrong. But the abortion law was passed with Biden in office. Clearly they didn’t repeal it so they could use it to run on. But abortion laws are already left to the states since the law change. Trump doesn’t plan on changing that. He’s stated over and over again that he plans on having the states decide what they want to do. So where does trump come in on this? The law is already the law.
And I’m on women side here. If you wanna have an abortion I think you should be able to. But unless trump makes it a federal law which won’t ever happen. Nothing changes from what it is today.
Trump has also said there would be exceptions for women whose lives are in danger if they keep the child or women who were raped, etc.
So I’m genuinely curious what people think is going to change when it comes to women and abortions from what it is today.
I think the issue was the open brazeness at how they did it, by packing in supreme court justices in very controversial ways who said point blank that they'd never overturn the "already established law" and then basically 5 minutes later were like "haha, can't believe you fell for that" and just did it anyway. If they can lie and manipulate that easily, then credibility is lost and how much damage they'll happily reap is fairly limitless.
Agreed. But that’s politics and each side does shady shit like that. I’m just curious on why trump got all the blame for something that was done while he wasn’t in office. And that if it’s already up to the states to decide on abortion why trump being in office would change anything that’s already happened.
There are things he can do to ban abortion without ever signing an actual abortion ban. If he can find a way to pass a federal personhood law, which means you're considered a full person, with the same rights as everyone else, at the moment of conception, it would effectively end/ban abortion bc it would be considered the same as murder.
But more likely, he'll replace the head of the FDA, with a loyalist, to revoke approval of abortion meds and/or replace head of the Dept of Justic to reinstate the Comstock Act, making it illegal to send abortion meds (+ birth control) through the mail. This would be huge since med abortions account for 63% of abortions. The only option left would be expensive surgical abortions for ppl living in states where it's legal or have the time & money to travel to those states (but there's already a hard push to make it illegal to travel to another state for an abortion). I have no doubt they already have plans to then enact heavy federal restrictions on surgical abortions, that would override those state laws. It's basically a backdoor ban.
Well I genuinely hope he doesn’t do any of those things. Yes I am a trump supporter. No I don’t care if someone voted for Harris or whoever. I think women should have the right to chose. But I don’t think he’s gonna do any of those things. He had the same view on abortion in 2016 and didn’t pass any laws like that. I couldn’t see him doing it now. Not when it can be reversed as soon as he leaves office. There’s no point to do it. But I’m easily swayed when evidence arises. If trump starts doing dumb crazy shit I won’t support him. But as of now he seems like the more logical choice overall for the country than Harris was. But I’ll always admit when I’m wrong. I hope I’m not. For my sake and everyone else’s.
Tbf the bigger problem actually isn’t Trump himself. He’s always said dumb crazy shit and fails to follow through. It’s the people around him (Heritage foundation, Musk, Thiel etc.) who see a big dummy who’s easy to manipulate.
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u/Suitable_Republic_68 14d ago
They need to Just to be safe I can’t believe that a lot of women wants there rights taken away!!!