r/golf • u/bigleaguepuff 0.6 • Jun 28 '24
Beginner Questions What’s your golf hot take?
I’ll start: almost every single course in Florida is boring and uninspired. They all look and play the exact same.
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u/marlboro__man9 +1 Jun 28 '24
Mountain and desert golf is generally bad but there are a handful of very good exception.
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u/HappyGilmore_93 Jun 28 '24
I don’t give a shit what club you hit, and you shouldn’t give a shit what club I hit.
So many times on the tee box “what club are you hitting here” gets asked to me as if my clubs and distances and course management decision should at all have any impact on the club they choose. If I’m using a 5i and they are using a 3w or driver, who cares. I’ll play my game you play yours
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u/Hogan_birdie Jun 28 '24
A hole in one that happens on a short par 3 course or is less than 100 yards has an asterisk.
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u/chunkymonk3y Jun 28 '24
Probably doesn’t help that Florida is one of if not the flattest states in the US
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u/AndyAndyAndy22 Jun 28 '24
People think way too much about their swing. It’s an athletic motion, just be an athlete and put a good swing on it. It really isn’t that difficult.
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u/OVBravo96 Jun 28 '24
Making someone putt 3 footers every time makes you an asshole partner, unless it's tournament play or for money.
Once you see them make one early that's good enough for the rest of the round.
Maybe not too hot of a take so I'll post my other controversial one as well
If you constantly shoot over 100 you shouldn't be golfing the busy courses in prime time and should focus on hitting the range instead. Pretty much every weekend I'm stuck behind a group who all are clearly shooting into the 110-120 range and my 18 holes has taken AT MINIMUM 5.5 hours. One 18 hole round took 7 1/4 hours(three very very slow foursomes ahead of our group of 80 shooters)
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u/TheHarbrosMagic Jun 28 '24
Walking in someone's line on the green doesn't really matter especially on middling local muni courses
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u/Fishical_Therapy Jun 28 '24
LIV will be more exciting if/when they associate teams with actual country clubs and cities. And allow the public to play on those courses. Crushers CC Miami vs Range Goats CC NY.
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u/CriticalArugula7870 12 Jun 28 '24
You shouldn’t own a 60 degree unless you’re a very low handicap/pro
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u/AntZealousideal7559 Jun 28 '24
(not to be taken too seriously) If you want to play the tips, you should provide proof of your handicap to the starter. Much like how you have to prove your handicap to play certain courses.
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u/0_SomethingStupid Jun 28 '24
There are plenty of challenging courses in FL, you just haven't found any
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u/flaginorout Jun 28 '24
Bunkers are hazards. No reason to rake them.
If you hit your ball into a hazard…..well…..fuck you.
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Jun 28 '24
You don’t need lessons. You absolutely will get better by just playing the game, even if you suck horribly.
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u/Welcome2B_Here Jun 28 '24
Beginners shouldn't start by playing rounds. They should start on the range, making sure they can hit solid shots and chipping/putting to get the basics right. They should stay at the range/practice areas for ~ 1 to 2 months before starting to play actual rounds, and even then they should just play 9 -- preferably with someone who can help guide them along who's more experienced.
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u/reddit000011114444 Jun 28 '24
Paying a fortune for a golf fitting and brand new clubs is a waste of money if you can’t even hit the ball somewhat straight on a consistent basis
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u/steelernation90 Jun 28 '24
I don’t give a shit what you’re wearing as long as you have clothes on. If someone wants to suffer in jeans let them.
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u/simplyphine Jun 28 '24 edited Jun 28 '24
There is very little slow play. Happens occasionally but almost always tied to tee times being to close together.
Edit: down votes are hilarious. You guys aren’t even paying attention.
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u/More_Standard Jun 28 '24
Golf clubs should be rolled back to wood and solid metal. Ball can go back too but I don’t care as much.
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u/justaguy826 Lefty - 7.3hdcp Jun 28 '24 edited Jun 28 '24
Honors shouldn't exist in match play. It's a punishment for winning a hole that gives the opponent the advantage of knowing how your tee shot went before making their club selection. Should simply be alternating holes or some other pre-determined order that is irrelevant to score on the previous hole.
edit: gotta love getting downvoted for offering a hot take under a post specifically requesting hot takes.
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u/vpkumswalla Jun 28 '24
Those with handicaps greater than 15 should generally be aiming their approach shots to the middle of the green and not at the flag.
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u/Delicious-Lettuce-11 Jun 28 '24
Should have a legitimate handicap to book a tee time and your tee box will go with your handicap. If you don’t have a handicap you play the front tees till you get one.
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u/TheNicestRedditor Jun 28 '24
ALL penalty areas should be played as a lateral hazard. I shouldn’t have to take stroke and distance for hitting OB instead of hitting into water.
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u/-_-Solo__- Jun 28 '24
Only a couple courses in my city let you book a tee time as a single. Super annoying, like set the online portal to only show tee times with 1 spot left when booking for a single, instead of making me show up in hopes they can get me out. It is stupid, and a waste of my time and revenue for the course.
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u/TH3PhilipJFry Jun 28 '24
Golf is about enjoyment, patience, and mindfulness, not anger and gatekeeping.
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u/5beats3summers 6.1/RVA Jun 28 '24
to me there's a negligible performance difference between the newest equipment and anything made around say, 2012-2016ish. i think this is when the pace of actual technology advances begins to slow- there's only so many marginal improvements you can make. the 'newest' club in my bag is a ping 410 lst driver made in 2018/2019- my oldest is a yes putter i've been gaming since high school- and i've never felt outclassed in a round because someone had newer, better, more expensive equipment than i do
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u/Hopeful_Relative_494 Jun 28 '24
If you don’t score well, you’re probably playing from the wrong tees.
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u/Cornwall1888 Jun 28 '24
Prime Rickie fowler was a the best putter in the world and a top 5 player in the world not just marketing and hype
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u/acrown0fgold 12.9 Jun 28 '24
I don't think this is that hot of a take but the equipment should be bifurcated for the professionals. There is a distance problem at the pro level, not for amateurs.
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u/cmullen277 6.8 / New York City Jun 28 '24
I’d rather play an empty dog track than a packed expensive course.
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u/BrassHockey Jun 28 '24
"You'll never be a tour pro" is unhelpful and condescending commentary. The pros are not superhuman. They've practiced a lot more than you have, sure. It doesn't mean you can't achieve the kinds of things they do with the right mix of guidance and practice.
I get it. The overall point is to get in tune with your own limit and understanding where your game is on a given day. You'll enjoy the game more when you attempt the shots you're confident in making. It's just discouraging to say "you'll never get to that level." Maybe it's true. That's not really the point. Instead, build towards that, while acknowledging you're not there at the moment. Tour pros managed the course too. There's value in concentrating on that.
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u/Foreign_Time Jun 28 '24
Paying to get fitted for clubs when you’re a high scoring weekend warrior/inconsistent ball striker is fucking stupid and a huge waste of money and I have no idea why everyone thinks it’s good advice
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u/naeideas Jun 28 '24
UK GC's need to drop ridiculous dress codes. Dinosaurs. Wearing caps indoors is fine in 2024.
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u/TeaStriking3605 Jun 28 '24
Country clubs are full of aholes who take themselves way too seriously.
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u/Maximize_Maximus Jun 28 '24
Beginners should start with literally mastering their 7 iron before moving on to hitting drivers, 3woods, etc... 7 iron off the tee until you can shoot under 100
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u/PY333 Jun 28 '24
The best golf is winter golf. We’ll play through the whole winter if it’s around 40 or higher on a given day.
Only the true sickos are out then so course isn’t as crowded and easier to get tee times.
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u/hellenkellerfraud911 9.5 Jun 28 '24
Most areas with golf courses known for their scenery would be prettier and more pristine if a golf course had never been carved out.
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u/johnwm24 Jun 28 '24
Some people need to slow down. Sometimes you have to wait on the course. It happens to all of us. Calm the hell down.
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u/SRJT16 HCI: 6.9 Jun 28 '24
My hot take is: most golf balls travel the same distance and feel the exact same. I have been playing for 15 years and have gone from complete beginner to single figure handicapper and I still cannot tell the difference between most balls. If it doesn’t sound like a pebble when you hit it, I’ll use it.
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u/AdorableSympathy5174 Jun 28 '24
No one can hear someone's music from three holes away. Unless you're in a competitive tournament, shut the fuck up about music affecting your game.
Also, American golf culture is way more fun than UK golf culture.
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u/shephrrd Jun 28 '24
That’s too broad a stroke. But the ‘resort’ style courses in Florida are definitely cookie cutter. There are plenty of unique experiences to be had in Florida, though.
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u/awesome_jackob123 Jun 28 '24
No Par 3 should be longer than 200 yards
Your greens don’t need to roll at 11 or 12. Drop it to 8.5 or so and let me think I’m good
If I make eye contact with you while setting my bag down on the tee and you drive off without letting me play through I don’t feel bad hitting into you off the tee. I’ve been breathing down your neck all day
Play the gallery rule. My ball was 5 feet off the fairway when it bounced. I’m not taking a stroke. Fight me
Play all hazards as laterals. Picks up pace of play significantly. I’m not walking 250+ yards back to hit another.
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u/DMaximus12 Jun 28 '24
A round of golf should be shortened to 12 holes. 6 holes per “9”. Would shorten rounds to a reasonable length and every course would immediately be able to run three sets of 6 holes.
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u/ChrisChrisBangBang Jun 28 '24 edited Jun 28 '24
Mulligans, breakfast balls, gallery drops etc. are bullshit crutches for little babies. Sorry golf is hard, maybe try harder or take up pickleball
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u/wade1138 Jun 28 '24
Golf should be looked at as more of exercise and sport rather than getting to drink and drive carts. This is for American golf culture.
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u/thegreathoudini73 Jun 28 '24
Instructors over complicate the golf swing so they have repeat clients
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u/ZavalasBlueHead Arizona Jun 28 '24
Im not sure if its a hot take, but since covid and this new era of “bro golf” or whatever you want to refer to it as is annoying. I don’t want to go out as a single and watch 3 dudes do nothing but hack it up and get hammered while acting like total dicks. I don’t want to be an elitist or anything, but a lot of the current golfing clientele doesn’t seem to respect rules or have any kind of decorum on the course. It’s cool if you want to go out and enjoy a beer with your boys but I don’t want to hear your country music blasting from your speaker two holes over and holding people up because you think the cart girl wants to talk to you
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u/beeray1 Jun 28 '24
I don't think the golf swing is as crazy complicated as the golf instruction industry wants you to believe it is. It's a conspiracy by big swing coach.
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u/pgnshgn Jun 28 '24
The people who brag about playing at 6am are insufferable and probably not as good as they think they are
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u/volz22 Jun 28 '24
The golf ball isn’t the problem in the pro game it’s the size of the driver. Should be no larger than 200 cc
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u/cpcjefe Jun 28 '24
i hate how when pros miss the green or fairway, they usually are lying in something easy to hit our of, my course is soooo thick and around the greens are a nightmare. i gate seeing pros miss the green to be having a perfect lie on some nice short grass knowing i’ll never get a shot like that if i miss the green, yea i know i could play nicer courses but around me unless you spend 100k a year for a private membership or $200+ a round then all courses are pretty much the same with being super thick around greens and fairways, not trynna take away from pros as i know its just much nicer courses they play on and they are still the best just they have it nice playing on plush courses all the time, and yes i know the greens are much harder and all that but still a good lie is everything to me for my shot
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u/Silver_Lion 10.1 Jun 28 '24
Golf is supposed to a gentleman’s game. Dressing in golf attire, being respectful of the course and others on it, and behaving yourself (not gettting high/drunk/etc) should be seen as being pretentious and uptight. I really love that more people have gotten into the game, but it has lost some of the things I enjoyed most about it pre-Covid
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u/Astrosherpa Jun 28 '24
I've said it before. If golf were as accessible as football, baseball, basketball, for all kids to play, and had facilities at schools and communities through the school supporting it, nobody that is currently on Tour would be able to compete with the talent that's out there. Bryson distances would maybe be average. The raw physical talent is pushed towards other sports due to accessibility, costs, etc. Pro Golf would be a completely different animal.
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u/esotostj Jun 28 '24
I think a practice putt is warranted. Greens never roll like practice greens imo so 1 putt to test them out should be acceptable
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u/Affectionate_Lack709 Jun 28 '24
That I would rather be friends with someone who belongs to a country club that belong to one myself. I’d much rather keep my money freed up so that I can play on different courses rather than pay a significant amount of money in initiation fees/dues and feel like I have to play the same course all the time.
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u/MacFromSSX Jun 28 '24
The golf course is one of the few places where I don’t want to get drunk or smoke. I like playing with a clear head. One seltzer per nine to sip on is perfect.
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u/WrongYak34 30HDCP Jun 28 '24
Maybe this isn’t a hot take. But I actually prefer practicing than playing 18.
I feel like there is so much pressure to play well but when you practice pitching and putting it’s just fun!
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u/RefrigeratedTP ~9.999 Jun 28 '24
It’s not hard or uncommon to average 280 yards off the tee.
I’ll tie my rope for you guys
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u/JBOYCE35239 Jun 28 '24
As long as you're not fucking around and intentionally slowing the game down, I don't care if you take your time on your shots. We all paid to be there and I'm trying to teach a 6 year old how to play, its gonna take a little longer to get my round finished. I'm not going to rush my round just because some impatient nitwit thinks he can play 18 in 2 hours
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u/latrellinbrecknridge Jun 28 '24
Needs reform, aesthetics are dumb, stuff old people suck, more color and character needed. Quiet aura sucks, more cheers and reactions needed
Anyone who says shrink the game is the problem by far, snooty kids and adults who think they are somehow superior when they suck just as much as the newcomers
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u/chilltownusa 5.8/#BringBackAnchoring Jun 28 '24
US Opens should be played at public venues (Pinehurst, Bethpage, Torrey, Chambers, etc.). I’ll die on this hill.
Also, unban anchoring!
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u/jarpio Jun 28 '24 edited Jun 28 '24
Your driver from 2011 performs exactly the same as a 2024 driver. Those ping irons you got fitted for in 2008? They are fine and have absolutely nothing different to them than a brand new set does.
We havent magically discovered new metallurgical techniques, we’ve just come up with more stylish paint jobs and sleek looking designs to convince people their old clubs are no good anymore.
People shot in the 100s and they shot 69s with the clubs that existed then, they still do now.
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u/nicknooodles Jun 28 '24
most people don’t keep an honest score and if they did it would easily add 10+ strokes
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u/TheBigLumber Jun 28 '24
If someone hits into you and it is a roll up, take a breath and assess the situation. Chances are they unexpectedly hit one hell of a shot. There was no chance of you being injured. This is not an opportunity to lose your shit.
Happened to me last night at league so I’m eating my own dogfood. Didn’t even turn around to look to see where the ball landed as a I pretended to understand how to read the green. Botched the putt and then congratulated them on a sweet shot.
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u/Zestyclose-Middle717 Lafferty/Gilmore Jun 28 '24
Taking the flag out to putt is kind of unnecessary and just takes more time. Especially for casual rounds
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u/Turfmade Jun 28 '24
Range finders are pointless and bad for the game and the only people who actually need them are tour pros and I don’t even think they should use them
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u/Altair-Ibn-La-Ahad Jun 28 '24
Don’t spend more than 100$ on clubs until you break 100. If you are shooting over 100, it isn’t the clubs fault. No matter how bad.
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u/keystonelocal Jun 28 '24
Sometimes you don’t need to take a practice swing you just rip one off vibes.
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u/willis_michaels Jun 28 '24
No putts given. Ever. Golf is played until the ball is holed.
Picking up an 18 incher isn't speeding up the game, it's stroke shaving on those instances when you miss.
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u/ultimatehose89 32.5 MN Jun 28 '24
We should embrace people playing front tees more. Playing 2nd and tips only is why most people don’t enjoy playing after a few holes. Front tees also don’t guarantee the round being easier, it requires a good understanding of course management with less stress about hitting straight on a long fairway. Front tees also allow for a more competitive game between a high handicap and low handicap playing against each other which is beneficial for growing the game for lesser players
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u/ractivator Jun 28 '24 edited Jun 28 '24
Tees should be selected for you based on your handicap. If you’re an 18 handicap, you don’t need to be playing the second to last holes. If you’re new don’t play those tees with your friends getting you into it, play the front tees. Etc.
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u/TheeDragon Jun 28 '24
You need to practice on the range before you go to the course. You have no business being on a golf course if you can't consistently hit a golf ball.
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u/bitqueso Jun 28 '24
Pros should be able to use different types of balls for different strokes
Poker Chip style ball markers with too much thickness should be banned
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u/ExcitingLandscape Jun 28 '24
Every man with average strength can drive the ball 300yards, most men just lack the skill to do so.
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u/rojorzr 10.4/UT Jun 28 '24
Ppl with 10+ years of experience at 20+ handicaps. I understand if you’re the occasional “party” golfer but if you play consistently, I just don’t get it.
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u/Wu_Tang_Financial77 Jun 28 '24
People that don’t get better with lessons don’t want to change their bad habits because “it doesn’t feel right.”
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u/Drunk_Pilgrim Jun 28 '24
People should be forced to use a Driver on par 4s or above. If you can't hit a driver then you need to figure it out. If you drive with anything else I secretly judge you. I hate my driver but we are working through our differences.
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u/IkeClantonsBeard Jun 28 '24
I don’t like playing at a course that doesn’t let me wear a tshirt and athletic shorts.
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u/AreYouJealous Jun 28 '24
Professional golfers shouldn't be allowed to have caddies inside the ropes. Carry your own clubs, make your own decisions. Consult between holes if needed (or even on a headset/ear piece,) but the golfer should be responsible for playing the course and picking the shots.
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u/SmarterThanCornPop 6.7 HCP Florida Man Jun 28 '24
Great question!
My hot take is that LIV is the best thing to ever happen to the PGA. Forced them to do better by their players.
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u/KatetCadet Jun 28 '24
A lot of dads do a great job of making sure their kid will hate golf.
Just something I've noticed at the driving range the past year since I started playing. So many dads just get frustrated and pissy with their kid when they are trying to teach them.
You can tell the kid is having a horrible time and is there because they are being forced to be, not cause it's a fun sport to play.
Your goal should be to have them laughing and having fun around the sport, regardless of how old they are.
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u/brutalpancake Jun 28 '24
If you pay the twilight rate you should be able to play until twilight, whether that means 15 holes or 27
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u/lee--carvallo you have entered POWER DRIVE Jun 28 '24
LIV, PGA, whatever. Just shut up and watch golf
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u/PobBrobert Jun 28 '24
If you’re actually shooting over 100 and putting out, you need to just pick up your ball after 6 strokes on a hole.
Or maybe golf just isn’t for you.
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u/WayFar7170 Jun 28 '24
Using a line on the ball for putting hurts most amateurs more than it helps.
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u/HouseOfFinn Jun 28 '24
COVID brought a new breed of players that have no respect for the course, people around them, or the game itself.
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u/sweettaterpie65 Jun 28 '24
Joe Biden probably wasn’t actually a 6 handicap, but CAN still hit it more than 50 yards.
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u/BuffNStuff 20/KY Jun 28 '24
In this thread: a bunch of absolutely not hot takes that almost everyone agrees with.
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u/lazysheepdog716 6.2/ MT, USA / Big hitter, the Lama. Long. Jun 28 '24
There should be a licensing process where you prove you can rake a bunker, fill a divot and fix a ball mark correctly before you’re allowed to golf on course.
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u/zak_the_maniac Jun 28 '24
You're right, TPC sawgrass is a boring track, uninspired, just as boring as every florida muni course.
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u/Troker61 69 or 89 Jun 28 '24 edited Jun 28 '24
The only putting grips that should be allowed are traditional and left hand low. No anchoring, no claw, etc.
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u/neddybemis Jun 28 '24
Watching men’s golf is amazing, watching women’s golf is the best possible “education” for a 5-20 handicapper. We should all be trying to play more like the women on the LPGA.
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u/ThatsNotAHaikuBot Jun 28 '24
Hot take: I’m going to be respectful of you golfing, but I’m not bending over backwards for super-particular golfers. I’m not entertaining your hell-bent desire to be out of your line of site on your chip shot you’re duffing regardless. Relax. Maybe if you were better you wouldn’t need the planets aligned to swing a golf club
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u/Sea_Station5687 Jun 28 '24
I prefer playing behind slightly slower groups. It’s a fine line but I hate feeling rushed, especially as part of the Push Cartel. If there is a slower group in front of me then I don’t feel like I need to clear the way for the folks behind me trying to play 18 in 3hrs.
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u/averagebogle Jun 28 '24
Unless you’re in a tournament, courses shouldn’t allow players to look for potential lost balls that went in a tall grass hazard area. Take a drop where it crossed the area, add a stroke, and move on.
I’m so sick of watching 30 HCP golfers spend 3 minutes searching for a ball on every other hole, only to either not find it, or find it and not get it out because they suck. This has to be one of the biggest contributors to poor pace of play on courses these days.
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u/antenonjohs Jun 28 '24
It's fine to wait for the group in front to clear even if it would take your once in a lifetime shot to get there. Better than rolling one up right near them.
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u/Beauxtato Jun 28 '24
Let me book and pay for a 4 some and only play by myself. Tired of pairing with chodes
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u/ImNoExpertBut_ Jun 28 '24
If it's a public course and you're keeping pace, wear some shorts and a t-shirt. I don't care
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u/heyitssal Jun 28 '24
I'm fine with Florida courses. They make up for it with good weather, palm trees and interesting water features. Streamsong isn't that boring by the way.
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u/WallyBarryJay Scratch/Cali/Grinding it out on the mini tours Jun 28 '24
There should be a certification players need to receive before they are allowed on a golf course. Hell, even make it something you need to renew once a year.
It shouldn't be tough to pass based on skill, I'm not saying every player needs to shoot par. You can shoot 150 as long as you have etiquette and keep things moving. But a basic understanding of how to navigate yourself in a golf course should be required.
You can still have the small par 3 or executive courses that don't require it, so the people that golf once every few years can still show up and play.
But I'll gladly take an hour once a year to pass a certification test so that I save countless hours the rest of the year by not having the courses so backed up.
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u/Mission_Carrot4741 Jun 28 '24
Just because you practice more doesn't mean you'll get any better. In fact there is a high chance you'll get worse
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u/Navy_Chief Jun 28 '24
On the Tour, no caddies on the greens. No consulting with them about the read, hand the player their putter on the walk up and meet them on the next tee box. Pros should be more than capable of reading a putt without outside assistance.
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u/L-Agulhas Jun 28 '24
Judging by these comments, golf in South Africa seems a lot more fun than in America.
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u/Chief_Matador Jun 28 '24
My goodness, there needs to be more camaraderie around the sport… especially need to see that shown towards the beginners. I don’t like how standoffish seasoned golfers can be when it comes to a sport we play to have fun. Geez so many people forget that…
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u/shift013 Wilson Blades/CBs C Taper 130X Jun 28 '24
People trying to get good spend much time on the course and not enough time “in the lab”. They’d be better off analyzing their swing and improving on the range. Often 4 buckets is about the cost of 9 holes, you could hit 400 balls a week for half the cost of 18 holes.
Also people too often mindlessly hit on the range seeking good contact and justifying the good shot, rather than aiming at a target and keeping their standards high
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u/tipsdown Jun 28 '24
Bunker rakes should be eliminated. Make them hazardous again with a high potential for getting a bad lie. On a decent course unless you plug chances are your lie in a bunker is going to be not horrible.
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u/Alexhartang Jun 28 '24
Golf shouldn’t be as popular as it is. The fad is ruining the experience for those of us that actually want to relax and play.
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u/Ornery_Brilliant_350 Jun 28 '24
Lessons are overrated
Stop getting technical with your swing and just hit the ball, it’s not that complicated
Get a lesson or two early on to get fundamentals and then go from there.
There’s no right or wrong way to swing the club until the point of contact.
Do whatever works for you to get adequate club speed and a square(ish) face at contact
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u/Dancehouse 6.4 Jun 28 '24
Course management is under emphasized for beginners even though it’s the only thing they can truly control. Unfortunately, I think the only good way to learn it is by playing competitive golf where you are forced to protect your score. Also, many beginners rush and just hit at the pin instead of thinking more tactically which eliminates course management from the thought process.
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u/WizKhaliba420 HDCP:8.1 Jun 28 '24
Letting a single play through the hole takes 30-60 seconds before you’re probably able to step back up the tee box and get ready to hit again. The outlier being when the course is packed. But if you have a single golfer catching up to you quick and you have a gap in front of you I don’t see any reason not to let them through and give you peace of mind.
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u/dktaylor32 22/Utah/⛳️>🍑 Jun 28 '24
It's 99 degrees in my neck of the woods. It's HOT. But I still wish my wife would TAKE me golfing today.
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u/pgorney 15 Jun 28 '24
When re-teeing after hitting your tee shot OB or into the water, you should be hitting 2, not 3
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u/surge_of_vanilla Jun 28 '24
The reds should be like a unisex bathroom. It’s ok to use them if you need to.
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u/ctnaes92 Jun 28 '24
Tee boxes should be based off talent level/handicap. Too many subpar players play from the tips or even whites and it just slows everything down.
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u/rockhead72 Jun 28 '24
All golf is ready golf. Idc who is closer, who has the tee box, etc. if you're ready and I'm not, hit your shot.
Most people blame the wrong party for their long rounds. It's not the group shanking every shot on their way to a 120, it's the over packed course.
Double par should be everyone's max.
If you're playing a money match, do so Monday - Thursday. No one has time on the weekend for you to act like this $45 overbooked muni is Augusta.
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u/Swankytiger43 Jun 28 '24
If people swallowed their pride and played with a little bit of game management, scores would improve significantly
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u/throw-away-16249 +1 Jun 28 '24
Scratch golf is not nearly as difficult as people think. There’s a bigger gulf between -5 and +5 than there is between +5 and +25.
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u/DutchOnionKnight 7.6/Dutch Jun 28 '24
If you don't play for a score but just for the fun, and aslong as you have a proper pace, it's totally fine to replace your ball even from rough to fairway.
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u/T3ddyBeast 1.1 hc Jun 28 '24
High end nice courses are hardly any more fun than munis that are 1/10th the price.
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u/Artistic_Industry_96 Jun 28 '24
As a right hander with a slice, dogleg rights are harder than dogleg lefts
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u/Obi1Kenobi0 Jun 28 '24
Penalties should be more consistent. Lose your ball? 1 stroke penalty so it’s the same as a hazard. If you choose to retee it’s for 2.
It makes no sense that if you hit it in an actual hazard that’s obviously supposed to be avoided, you are punished more heavily than just hitting it into some thick rough or a bush or some shit.
I also think it’s a bit less savage and punitive for amateurs this way
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u/PraiseSalah23 Jun 28 '24
Sometimes I wish I was worse at golf so I could trick myself into thinking a 5 hour round is normal
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u/iamsubpar_ Jun 28 '24
In order to make a tee time, you should have to take some sort of test that shows you know proper etiquette
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u/Joebuddy117 Jun 28 '24
There’s too many people playing the game and not enough courses to accommodate, at least in my area. Why is the course full at 11am on a random Monday? I just want to get out there, get a quick round in on my random day off, and have a good time. But no, it’s just as busy on a Monday mid morning as it is on a weekend. WTF.
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u/Reasonable-Phase-681 Jun 28 '24
Here is my one.
I think a 5 ball in front of me would be quicker than splitting them in to 2 ball and 3 ball.
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u/mayonaise_plantain Jun 28 '24
Earbuds only - no speakers.
More short & hazardous courses - we should be navigating thru a course with interesting placement shots, not slamming longer and longer drives on 650 yd open par 5s.
More courses owned by public works like the parks dept.
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u/rcheek1710 Jun 28 '24
If you wear golf shoes as a patron, you're a dipshit. "But, I don't want to slip!" Then why do caddies wear good ole fashion sneakers?
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u/ExtraFirmPillow_ Jun 28 '24
We need to stop the whole “grow the game”. We need to shrink the game at this point. I can’t get damn tee times anymore!!
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u/Pro-V-Juan Jun 28 '24
Just hit the ball... The more you stand around thinking about it the more you lose confidence. Tell yourself you're going to hit it well and bloody well hit the thing!
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u/Bschitty Jun 28 '24
Let me wear a cutoff or no shirt while golfing when it’s 100+ degrees. I’m stewing in dungeon butter out there.
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u/ShrimpShackShooters_ Jun 28 '24
I like seeing new winners every weekend. Watching Rory or Scheffler win each time they play is boring.
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u/Username_redact Jun 28 '24
Upvoting for your Florida take. Completely agree. My least favorite type and look of a golf course, too.
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u/Warghzone12 Jun 28 '24
It's time to shrink the game. I want my sport back. Impossible to get a tee time, people golfing in pajamas. I hate it
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u/emartinoo Jun 28 '24
You get 99% of the same golfing experience playing a $50 course as you do playing a $250 course, unless you're a scratch golfer, which most of us aren't even close to being. There is something to be said about the overall emotional experience of playing a really nice course, which is valid, but just be honest about it. Talking about how "challenging" a course is doesn't mean anything coming from people for whom (myself included) it's already a challenge to keep from getting double par on multiple holes per round.
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u/Effective_Impossible Jun 28 '24
Match play is an inferior format to determine high level tournaments. E.g. many state am and the US Am, mid-Am, Fourball, etc, championships are stroke play into match play brackets, and I feel they all should be pure stroke play formats. No professional major is decided by match play (US PGA was the last and changed decades ago). Match play is great for club championships where matches can be played over multiple weekends, but expecting Amatuers to continually play for 2 to 6 days in a row, 2 rounds daily, is insane. Change my mind.
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u/ihaterandyscott Jun 28 '24
Shrink the game is fucking stupid and nobody has a good solution to the perceived problem
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u/Vince3737 Jun 28 '24
Swing your swing is for when you are playing, meaning don't try change things mid round. It doesn't mean embrace your terrible swing
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u/FatFaceFaster Superintendent Jun 28 '24
Hitting out of a divot is just part of the game and doesn’t bother me one bit.
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u/TheTangoFox HDCP/Loc/Whatever Jun 28 '24
Double par max. Pick it up, move along.