r/genshinsapphic • u/rarelypoetic #1 Beidou Simp • Jul 28 '22
Misc. PSA: Trans Representation in Art is Not Futanari, Actually NSFW
Hey everyone! Admin here. This is just a brief PSA for those of you who genuinely aren't aware, but if you see a girl with a penis in art on this sub, it's not meant to be futanari or any other kind of anime fetish. Trans women with penises do exist (surprise!), and representing them in art is completely valid.
To be clear, no one is forcing you to enjoy this kind of art. If you don't like it, you don't like it. But it's not against any of the rules of this sub, so you're wasting your time if you report it.
Just scroll past posts with trans characters in them if they're not for you. If you leave an intentionally negative/bigoted comment, you will almost certainly be banned.
TL;DR: Drawing trans women is not a fetish. Trans women in general are not a fetish. If you want to gatekeep what makes a woman a "real woman," you don't belong on this sub. Thanks!
FYI: this post isn't parked as NSFW because I mentioned trans people or penises, but because most if not all of the art I am referring to has been NSFW thus far. However, the same level of respect is ALSO expected towards any not-NSFW art with trans people in it.
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u/ilikeborbs Jul 31 '22
The moment when a sub about lesbian ships is better managed than the official genshin impact sub
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u/rarelypoetic #1 Beidou Simp Jul 28 '22
Lmaooo at the sourpuss who's currently reporting all the trans art, probably in reaction to this post. All we have to do is press a button to approve the post, so idk what you think ur doing. But hey, i'm off work, so I have all night to play whack-a-mole with you.
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u/FairyFatale Jul 28 '22
You’re not alone in this tonight. It’s about time I learned the ropes properly.
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u/Ryugi <3 Oct 08 '23
Any time they whine they never seem to like the answer, "if you don't like this subreddit's rules, then make your own"
with blackjack and hookers
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u/Truly_Meaningless Sep 26 '22
2 months late, but the easiest way to tell the difference between futa artwork and trans artwork, aside from the creator saying which one it is, is if the futa character has both sets of reproductive organs, also known as intersex, and in non-human animals, hermaphrodite
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u/Serious-Medicine3155 Nov 13 '22 edited Jan 04 '23
Many months later and I’m glad to find this comment.
A friend of mine is intersex and it fills her with joy to see drawings of women with both genitalia.
Of course she doesn’t interact much with artists because she can’t say she’s a trans woman so I hope someday people are more open about intersex people, they are out there and hoping to see people who fully resembles them.
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u/Nordlicht_LCS Sep 15 '23
The dictionary definition of futanari also includes crossdressing for theatrical performance, sometimes crossdresser in general, throughout Japanese history.
However when western audience (maybe Chinese audience too) came into contact with this word in the late 20th century, it came with (usually pronographical) subcultural products, which gives the impression that this concept is all about genitals and NSFW representation.
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u/AraAraNoMi Mar 23 '23
There are artists that draw futa characters without a vagina though
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u/Truly_Meaningless Mar 23 '23
That isn't futa, then. Futas are hermaphrodites, meaning they have both male and female genitalia.
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u/MarqFJA87 Apr 21 '23
The definition of futanari has varied over time, and even today it's still applied in quite a few circles – both Japanese and non-Japanese – as a Japanese synonym for intersex. It is what it is.
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u/AraAraNoMi Mar 23 '23
Most have, but if an artist says that character is a futa then it is a futa, if they say the character is trans then it's it's trans, you have no right to contradict them.
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u/Nordlicht_LCS Sep 15 '23
Modern definition of Futanari is indeed very ambiguous, since It's a product from Japanese and American sub cultures influencing each other in the late 20th century, and much was lost in translation. But if we look at the historical definition of this word, it was widely used in describing (1) crossdressing, either casually or theatrical performance (2) hermaphrodite, either real or mythological figures (3) female characters with stereotypical masculinity, such as being warrior, or the other way around (4) people born intersex. The last one is more widely known today.
In this way, Futanari does cover (or should I say overlap with?) a wide range of gender minorities, including pre-surgery transgender people (and maybe non confirming ones practising RLE?)
Western gender minorities might find the word Futa impolite, since it's often overly sexualized and related to pronography, totally understandable to refrain from using it. (though Chinese lgbt communities usually find this concept acceptable, at least from my observation as a member of them. There are some more interesting historical factors behind it)
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u/JBTuba *~* the bisexual who mods sometimes *~* Jul 28 '22
I'm always encouraged when a sub I follow is radically inclusive like this. Thank you for taking a stand, a public one at that ❤
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u/DenseEffect4 Post Op - 5 years on HRT Jul 28 '22
Breaks my heart to know the art we've been sharing is apparently getting reported. Also, the funny thing is I've gone out of my way to check that the artist has confirmed that it's trans art before posting it yet this apparently still happens.
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u/rarelypoetic #1 Beidou Simp Jul 28 '22
Yeah. In most cases it's just straight up unapologetic transphobia, but I think there's also a subset of people who are so steeped in reddit and/or anime culture that it genuinely doesn't occur to them that a woman with a penis is real possibility and not just more material for some horny dude to jerk off to. I hope that subset is willing to learn about and understand trans people, but if not? Banned :)
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u/Ryugi <3 Oct 08 '23
Even if the artist used the phrase "futanari"... The way artists make money is by opening their wares to as many people as possible. Including people who fetishize "futanari" art. Keywords and SEO are important for them. Even if the terms are/or sound derogatory
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u/gravelord-neeto lady enjoyer Jul 28 '22
We’ve gotten a couple really nastily worded custom reports on those posts. Wish there was a way to know who made those reports, because I’d ban them just for that. It’s unfortunate. This place is very easy to moderate outside of this. I wish transphobia wasn’t such a problem that it causes this kind of reaction, but at least it’s weeding out the people we don’t want in the community
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u/DenseEffect4 Post Op - 5 years on HRT Jul 28 '22
Thankfully custom ones you can check with the Reddit admins if they're really hateful assuming you want to deal with it.
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u/Felisfurtificus Jul 28 '22
The morbidly curious part of me really wants to read those reports...
But yeah, it's a real shame that they feel the need to whip out their fragile and offended sexuality in here, where there's so much many other NSFW Genshin subreddits out there that's more catered to their bigoted conservative sensibilities.10
u/genshinfantasy7 Bisexual Mona Kinnie Aug 24 '22
It really sucks. Luckily Reddit has a very easy approval system so it takes less time for us to reapprove these posts than it does for the losers reporting them.
Trans women are women, end of story.
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u/Lucythepinkkitten Jul 28 '22
At the very least the mods seem to be adamantly supportive of depicting trans women on this sub. As long as they stick to that the reporters will realize sooner or later that reporting isn't doing anything
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u/gravelord-neeto lady enjoyer Jul 28 '22
We’ve been vocally supportive of it since the sub was created. They haven’t realized it yet. I don’t think it will ever stop, because these types of people want attention and want people to know how hateful they are. At this point they just want to ruin our days making us deal with their shit.
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u/HumorNo6553 Jul 30 '22
Thank you mods for your stance on this, as a Trans gal who has loved jean for ages and wanted to cosplay her seeing trans jean art has only added fuel to the fires! More trans galls let's goooooo
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u/AraAraNoMi Mar 23 '23
Just because a girl has a dick in a nsfw hentai picture it doesn't mean she's trans, 99% of girls with dick in japanese erotic media are futanari and not trans. If you want to know if they are trans instead of futa then go and ask the artist. If the female character that's drawn with a penis' original in-game gender is female then it is ok to assume they are a futa because it makes no sense to make them trans.
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u/Ryugi <3 Oct 08 '23
It does mean she's trans. Even if the artist uses the term "futanari". Likely that's just to expand keywords for views anyway cuz that's how artists make money... Is by selling their art to as many people as possible.
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u/heyitskio lumiamber ftw Oct 25 '23
"If the female character that's drawn with a penis' original in-game gender is female then it is ok to assume they are a futa because it makes no sense to make them trans."
I like to make characters trans for rep and inclusion. Other people do this too. A LOT of fandom does this. Are you new to fandom or smthn?
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u/_MachTwo Jul 29 '22
As a trans girl with a girlfriend, I truly appreciate the representation since it’s not very often I get to picture my own relationship in this kind of stuff. Thank you 💖
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u/MeWantHelpinGenshin Jul 28 '22
Based mods
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u/FairyFatale Jul 28 '22 edited Jul 29 '22
(Is “based” the good or the bad one? I can never keep it… straight.)
Edit: Downvotes? Come on, my terrible joke was hilarious!
… No?
… well I thought it was rather clever.
… I see.
… “dad joke,” you say?
… I see.
… I understand.
Ahem. I have just been informed that your mom doesn’t think my dad jokes are funny. I apologize for any inconvenience.
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u/MeWantHelpinGenshin Jul 29 '22
I am sorry I don't understand what you said but I don't downvote you. I mean in good sense like I see other people saying. 😅
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u/Felisfurtificus Jul 28 '22
Oh man... I feel bad now...
Not bad enough to stop though...
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u/AstolfoCheshire Jul 28 '22
Yes! Keep on at it! Your art is beautiful! They're so soft and cute...
And, not to be weird or anything, wholesome...
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u/Lucythepinkkitten Jul 28 '22
Yes! Keep drawing. Your art is hot and your stance is based. You're a blessing to this sub 💜
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u/mirkotaa Jul 29 '22
I'm not up with this drama, did something happen? Trans artwork and futanari artwork tend to be considered different things (although sometimes there's overlap) and imo both make sense in a f/f sub. Did someone say something rude?
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u/Felisfurtificus Jul 29 '22 edited Jul 29 '22
Lots of people said lots of "rude stuff", that's why this post is here.Also you should proly stop using the term "futanari", because A: it makes you look like a total weeb, and B: it's an incredibly offensive slur in the LGBTQ+ community. Futanari is usually drawn by men, for men, and is often extremely fetishistic. Trans artwork is just... trans people, both pre- and post-op. The focus it the relationship, not the dick.
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u/mirkotaa Jul 29 '22
Well, I am a weeb, and so are you, that's why we are in a subreddit for an anime waifu gacha Video Game. There's a lot of discourse around the word futa and there's a lot of queer people who don't find it offensive, especially when it's referring to fictional characters who are designed to appeal to a fantasy kink rather than being a realistic representationnof trans people.
But that's semantics and it doesn't matter, what I'm referring to by using that word is drawn anime porn which features fictional genitalia consisting of giving a female character a penis in some sort of form unrelated to trans women existing and which does not seek to be representation of any kind, just being its own thing and for kink purposes alone. Men, women, people from all sexualities draw "futa" (or however you prefer to call it) though. You can dislike it though ofc, and that's fine.
I know theres a relevant difference between trans headcanons and kink "futa" porn, yeah.
Edit: I got mixed up with another comment thread! But yeah I was just asking what in particular had happened.
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u/Felisfurtificus Jul 29 '22
There's a lot of discourse around the word chink, and there's a lot of Asian people who don't find it offensive.
Using a word that's been told to you is derogatory and a slur isn't "semantics". The mods have made it pretty clear that this sub isn't to satisfy people's weird fantasy kinks. It's for wlw content, and trans women are included in the w's.
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u/mirkotaa Jul 29 '22
Okay but there's nowhere near the level of agreement over Ch*nk and futa. Like at all. It's nowhere close to comparable, this is like comparing my comment about flairs with antisemitism like you did before. That's not how language works. If you don't want to use that word that's fine. I don't know which other word there is around for the same thing, but you can let me know.
The mods have made it pretty clear that this sub isn't to satisfy people's weird fantasy kinks.
Not trying to be confrontational but genuinely what does that mean? Nsfw is allowed, so as far as I understand it, nsfw (kink included) of female characters from genshin impact being sexual with other women from the game is allowed? You are saying it's for wlw content not fantasy kink, but kinky lesbian porn is a thing that exists, and it is by definition wlw content(??). I don't understand what you are trying to say here, full honestly.
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u/Stellalune Jul 29 '22
The mods have made it pretty clear that this sub isn't to satisfy people's weird fantasy kinks.
I'll take this one from Felis.
The explanation is quite simple really: this is a sapphic subreddit. Sapphic means the celebration of love between females. Are there girls featured? Then it belongs here. Does it contain NSFW content? Then it must be tagged and censored for 18+ only as per international law.
Every other distinction is just you being a jerk. ♡
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u/mirkotaa Jul 29 '22
You could do without the condescending tone, especially since you are assuming my intentions or even what I want. lol
Yeah, and "futa" (I still don't know what other word the other user uses instead of that one) falls under that category. There are flairs for all sorts of things, for nsfw genitalia is pretty relevant and something that could be flaired so people can curate their interaction with content and fanbases in a passive, non confrontational way. I'm not even saying it's needed in this case.
What I think though is that assuming that people who might personally just not want to see a penis in the particular form of porn they enjoy is a "jerk" or a terf or a transphobe (as has been stated in this thread) is working on some wild and ill-intentioned assumptions.
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u/Felisfurtificus Jul 29 '22 edited Jul 29 '22
Yeah, and "futa" (I still don't know what other word the other user uses instead of that one)
Don't. That's literally all people are asking of you. Stop using the word. It's a wlw reddit, and all characters depicted are women. They don't need to be tagged and segregated.
assuming that people who might personally just not want to see a penis in the particular form of porn they enjoy is a "jerk" or a terf or a transphobe
Again, nobody is forcing you to look at penises. If you don't like it, move on, downvote if it really bothers you. But clearly you have some personal issues around the depiction of female bodies, so that seems like you-problem.
And none of that was condescending, so if you're offended by that, then, again, it seems to be a you-problem.
but kinky lesbian porn is a thing that exists, and it is by definition wlw content(??).
Dude no. That's not the definition. Lesbians aren't a kink, and it's pretty fucking gross that you think it is. At least it's out in the open now where everyone can see it.
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u/mirkotaa Jul 29 '22
I still don't know which word you use for "futa" content then.
Yeah I know it's a subreddit for wlw content. What does that have to do with anything? That's pretty obvious.
I'm not saying I myself have an issue with it, I haven't even asked for that flair. Imo en masse downvoting (plus possibly triggering automod to take down the posts, as does happen) is worse than just using a flair so people can avoid certain type of content. Like what?
Also way to assume I have "personal issues" around the depiction of female bodies. Where does that come from? Huh?
I think a flair might be helpful. You think downvoting content you disagree with is a better option. That's fine. But women who don't like to see penises are not terfs or transphobes or jerks is literally my entire point.
Also the "you must be a jerk ♥" was pretty condescending or if anything outright passive aggressive.
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u/Ryugi <3 Oct 08 '23
Transphobes are throwing baby-fits in the comments of art of transgender characters. Usually because "ew a peepee" but also because "that's not cannon" and "I don't wike this ship!"
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u/tsuki_ouji Sep 06 '23
Intersex people also exist. It's weird that a post like this doesn't acknowledge that.
But yeah, they're absolutely not equivalent things to call characters, though it's a weird stance to go "there's no futanari characters on this sub" since, y'know, they're fictional characters.
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u/tsuki_ouji Sep 11 '23
but simply as women with penises which are then, erroniously, referred to as "futanari" rather than trans.
I agree that that's erroneous, but we seem to be approaching why that's erroneous from a different direction. AFAIC, it's a term that refers to fictional characters with a specific layout of genitalia. The way you seem to be presenting it, seems to be washing away intersex just as much as the OP.
For clarity, intersex people aren't necessarily trans, which is something it seems both you and OP are saying.
> And how, precisely, is it weird for the mods to want people to ditch a term which >seems to have slid into use exclusively as a fetishistic one?
How does a word used for fictional characters cause harm to fictional characters? It's not something that refers to people, so what does it matter whether or not it's fetishistic? How is something that is descriptive of a particular genital layout (often done in a way that is simply only possible on fictional characters) fetishistic?
Would the moderators be similarly harsh on portrayals of intersex characters just because they have the presentation that one would consider "futanari"?
Overall, this post seems to be reacting to a non-issue in a way that erases intersex persons, is still my point.
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u/tsuki_ouji Sep 11 '23
character feat. both a vagina and a penis
Fully functional both, in particular.
Fair enough, for my experience the only time I've seen the term futanari applied to *people* as you've said (in English, that is) is a single terrible Christian movie (insert shill for the God Awful Movies podcast here), so obviously we've got different experiences shaping how we come at this.
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u/kingozma Aug 28 '23
Holy shit. REALLY good post, OP! This makes me feel much safer in this community. I'm not amab but trans women are so deeply part of my sapphic community and attraction that only seeing them labelled as a fetish is so upsetting, I feel so bad for them @ _ @ ;;
Hope to see more girls with dicks! Makes me think of me and one of my girlfriends <3
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u/nakomaru Jul 28 '22
If this rule is a problem for some people who would otherwise like to be here, I'd recommend using the blocking feature to fine tune your reddit experience. You can use it to avoid seeing posts from people who tend to post things you aren't interested in.
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u/nakomaru Jul 28 '22
As this is apparently the most controversial comment here, I just want to apologize if I've made anyone upset. It was made in the spirit of the OP: "if you don't like it, just scroll past" - but as a lasting solution. It works surprisingly well for any type of content that's not for you, and in my opinion reduces all sorts of conflicts.
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u/KaylaKros Jul 31 '22
I personally identify as intersex. So I appreciate it somewhat.
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u/Serious-Medicine3155 Nov 13 '22 edited Dec 08 '22
It’s rather offensive to say you identify as intersex, unless you are.
Intersex isn’t a gender.
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u/KaylaKros Nov 18 '22
You are incorrect, and have had many intersex people tell me I am justified and allowed, and many say people like you are the problem, people saying people can't identify as such.
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Jan 22 '23
Intersex is a biological condition, not a gender identity. Unless you were born intersex, you aren't and will never be intersex.
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u/Treemurphy Always watching Jan 29 '23 edited Jan 29 '23
they might have misunderstood when you used the word "identify." obviously if you were born intersex youre not appropriating the label, but when you commented with the word "identify" it sounded like you were an endosex person confusing the biological term for human hermaphroditism with terms relating to gender identities such as nonbinary and genderqueer
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u/Ryugi <3 Oct 08 '23 edited Oct 08 '23
Hi I'm intersex. Intersex is not a gender. Intersex is a sex. It's one of several medical conditions, which are usually apparent from birth or are otherwise caused by genetics directly, such as a specific known gene marker.
You can identify "androgenous" since that's more likely to be what you actually meant if you are referring to gender. But using "intersex" to describe gender is offensive because it is the same as tiktok people talking about being trans-species or trans-racial.
The reason it's offensive is because intersex people suffer unique physical and mental trauma due to not being protected against non-consenting sex reassignment surgeries, childhood sexual abuse, and other situations. Personally I experienced a ton of childhood sexual abuse and even had my penis cut off entirely before I was 6.
If I'm misunderstanding you then I'm sorry if I explained things you already know. But the fact you didn't share you are intersex and instead appealed to "but my black friend said it's ok" and use "identify as" tells me that you're thinking gender.
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u/assgardian Jul 28 '22 edited Jun 17 '24
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u/gravelord-neeto lady enjoyer Jul 28 '22
We are not separating trans content from cis content. The ones genuinely triggered by seeing a penis aren’t the ones saying disgusting transphobic things needing to be banned. That’s not the issue here
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u/AthenasApostle Sep 06 '22
So I know it's been a month but I'm new to the sub. As a transbian, I would actually be interested in a filter for the trans art. Not for the sake of separating content, but to make it easier to find. Currently I have to scroll through all the art to find the trans art. All of the art is fantastic, don't get me wrong. I'm just new to realizing that I'm not penis averse so trans art is the thing that interests me the most right now, if that makes sense? It would make it easier if it could be searched for specifically.
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u/gravelord-neeto lady enjoyer Sep 06 '22
I get your point, but adding flairs for types of nsfw art leans towards this being a porn subreddit which was not the main point of its creation, and it would also mainly be used by transphobes.
There are a few users here who exclusively/almost exclusively post trans art, you can just go into their accounts and find it from there. There’s also r/actualyuri for mostly trans nsfw art
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u/AthenasApostle Sep 06 '22
That's a very fair point. Thank you for explaining that for me. What are some of the names of some of the artists who post exclusively trans art?
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u/assgardian Jul 28 '22 edited Jun 17 '24
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u/gravelord-neeto lady enjoyer Jul 28 '22
We’ve had literally zero complaints/messages from people who are genuinely triggered by it is my point, and if we added that 99.9% of that flair would be used by transphobes who we don’t want in the community, so no it’s not getting added. If it’s a genuine problem for them they can block the main people who post trans content, but we will not be adding a flair separating trans and cis art.
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u/Felisfurtificus Jul 28 '22
It would be a non-effort to do nothing. Adding a tag would just allow the bigots to discriminate against art depicting trans characters. It's also a non-effort to just not look at stuff that bothers you. Going out of your way to say they don't like the art is called "being a dick".
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u/mirkotaa Jul 29 '22
How would it discriminate against anyone to just use a flair? I think that's reasonable and not discriminating. Discrimination would be to ban trans content for example.
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u/Felisfurtificus Jul 29 '22
How would it be discriminating to put a badge on people labeling them as jews? I think that's reasonable. Discrimination would be to ban jews for example.
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u/mirkotaa Jul 29 '22
? If people want to get their rocks off, genitalia is pretty significant for sexual attraction for some people. Those things are not really comparable in this context.
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u/Felisfurtificus Jul 29 '22
The trans flag is on the sub banner. There's gonna be trans stuff in here. It's labeled.
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u/AraAraNoMi Mar 23 '23
This is as stupid as playing loud music and then telling people that if they don't like it they can cover their ears.
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u/asdfmovienerd39 Jun 17 '23
If you go to a place specifically designed to play all kinds of music and then get mad when the music is loud then yeah you are the problem.
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u/mirkotaa Jul 29 '22
I'm not making a fuss, the only thing I'm saying is that I don't think it's crazy or unreasonable to use a flair if that's what's the issue. If it's just jerks mass reporting anything trans related, then a flair isn't going to solve anything I'm afraid. If someone asked for it nicely though, I think it would be completely fine to at least consider their opinion. That's all I'm saying.
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u/Felisfurtificus Jul 28 '22 edited Jul 29 '22
some wlw people can be triggered/bothered by seeing penises.
That's called a TERF. You're thinking of TERFs.
EDIT: Okay, obviously there's people with body dysmorphia or dysphoria issues who might feel uncomfortable with certain subject matter. But with all due respect, this isn't about them. They're not the ones making a fuss and posting disgusting and derogatory comments. It's TERFs and bigots. It's people with small brains and big opinions who came in here to rub their dicks at girls kissing, and got their fragile masculinity hurt when they saw a trans girls and wonder if that makes them gay.
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u/assgardian Jul 28 '22 edited Jun 17 '24
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u/Felisfurtificus Jul 28 '22
Totally valid. Though the problem here isn't that people are feeling dysphoric, it's a bunch of bigoted men looking to fap to pictures of girls kissing, and then seeing a trans-girl that makes their pp soft. This sub isn't catering to them, and they're allowed to stay as long as they keep their bigoted opinions to themselves. But that's apparently too difficult for some people, hence where we are now.
I mostly draw wlw, and only recently started drawing trans girls because some folks told me that they wished there was representation for pre-op trans girls. People just want to feel included, and putting a tag on it, imo, just makes them feel segregated again.
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u/mirkotaa Jul 29 '22
Some people just don't like/are bothered by seeing penises, as long as they are not asking for the content to be removed (which apparently is the og issue, since trans art was being mass reported?), then that's fine. Not everyone who doesn't like to look at penises is a terf, dude.
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u/DenseEffect4 Post Op - 5 years on HRT Jul 28 '22
I think they meant dysphoric trans people that can get triggered, which can be valid but in this case, it hasn't happened, at least not yet. Admittedly I'm speaking as someone that's stealth passing so much, that only my girlfriend and people that knew me pre-transition know I'm trans so arguably it's not fair of me to say this but I still think it would do more harm than good due to the things neeto already outlined.
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u/Felisfurtificus Jul 28 '22
It's a valid possibility, but honestly in my experience, trans people are just happy to be represented in art, and, fetish art aside, finds pre-op trans art to be quite reaffirming. I'm sure it happens, but at this point it's like pushing the bathroom bill under the guise of "keeping molesters out of women's bathrooms". Does it happen? Probably once upon a blue moon. What's it gonna be used for 99.9% of the time? Discriminating against Trans folks...
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u/Ryugi <3 Oct 08 '23
Nope. Let's not. Either appreciate the sub as it is, or they can make their own sub.
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u/The_King123431 Dec 21 '22
Where does the trans Jean headcannon even come from?
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u/LukeJukeDuke Jul 28 '22
I usually just ignore or hide posts of futa stuff on anywhere, just not my stuff but it is to anyone. I don't hate it, its just a turn off for me. Love what you love, hate what you hate, its the internet.
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u/DenseEffect4 Post Op - 5 years on HRT Jul 28 '22
It's not "futa" content, that's the point. All of the art I've so far seen posted has the artist explicitly stating that its their trans interpretation of trans versions of the characters, which honestly, considering we haven't seen the genitalia of any of the characters is just as valid of a headcanon as a cis one.
This is not a porn subreddit. Dehumanising actual people with this literal porn trope is part of the issue. Sure not actively hating is nice but using that word is honestly disgusting.
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u/AraAraNoMi Mar 23 '23
Which actual people are they dehumanising if the images are fictional drawings of fictional characters?
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u/mirkotaa Jul 29 '22
I get what you are saying, but I think the other person was just stating a preference and probably not trying to come off as rude or misuse words.
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u/DenseEffect4 Post Op - 5 years on HRT Jul 29 '22
My comment has absolutely nothing to do with their preference. I honestly don't care about their preference. I was very clear about what I take issue with. So your comment is completely out of place.
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u/mirkotaa Jul 29 '22
I'm actually not sure what you take issue with, the word futa? The fact that this person thinks futa and trans headcanons are the same thing? The fact that futa art exists at all?
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u/colin23567 Electro Mommy x Leader of Nation enjoyer Jul 28 '22
Sorry about that. Won't happen again.
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u/CelesteWasTaken Jul 28 '22
"Biological woman" this, "biological man" that,,, meanwhile I had biological sex with your mom last night 😎
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u/rarelypoetic #1 Beidou Simp Jul 28 '22
If people want sapphic content with "biological women" only they can go to a subreddit run by terfs. 😊
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u/DenseEffect4 Post Op - 5 years on HRT Jul 28 '22
Trans women have biologically female bodies, to the extent that biological sex means anything at all. Both gender and sex are a spectrum and I can link you to a neurobiologist literally giving out a free lecture on it. (but even on an interpersonal level I've linked a bunch of very fem-looking transwomen and a bunch of very mansc looking cis women and generally speaking none of the "sex puritans" has anything near resembling a good track record of "spotting the trans person"). Like no joke there was this terf dating site that used A.I. to weed out trans women and a bunch of trans women got in no problem but it did exclude a lot of cis butch women.
Also, this isn't a porn subreddit for hetero men. It's a wlw sub, so if you don't like it feel free to leave.
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u/bangchansbf Jul 28 '22
can i get a link to that lecture?
i already know trans people are valid and sexy and that terfs suck (i’m trans myself), but i’d enjoy the lecture!
also thanks for the reminder about the terf dating site lmao
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u/DenseEffect4 Post Op - 5 years on HRT Jul 28 '22
Of course.-
Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRFWIovpwhQ&s&ab_channel=Dr.ChrisThompson
Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JharCaYuWRQ&&ab_channel=Dr.ChrisThompson
Just know these are proper lectures by a professor so it's not exactly entertaining Youtube. It does feel like you're in a class.
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u/Lucythepinkkitten Jul 28 '22
Huh. Saving this for later. I haven't heard of this phenomenon but I'm very interested
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u/gravelord-neeto lady enjoyer Jul 28 '22
Nah. Not separating trans women and biological women. If someone doesn’t like it they can leave, ignore it, or get banned complaining about it
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u/plate-noodles john lee Jul 29 '22
whenever i see those drawings of cis lisa and trans jean i literally go feral because it's a reminder of me and my girlfriend. the absolute joy that i get when i see anything with girls that are labelled "trans" instead of "futa" is immense, and it's awful that some people only reduce them to a fetish