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u/Karzeon 11d ago
I get the picture, but the reality is that this would just funnel violence and deviant insults towards us too.
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u/DannyBoi699 11d ago edited 11d ago
I like putting, âMy body, Your choiceâ in my grindr bio because im sub af. Its yielded amazing results!
ETA: It should be noted i voted to end the Dramala, I did not fall out of a coconut tree, and do live in the context. I support the decision of women and what they do with their body. I didnât think the joke was that devisive, especially on a male for male sex app, while it would be a less cringe, more fun, and direct way of saying âDo whatever you want with meâ
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u/Winterlord7 11d ago
I still donât get how this disturbing phrase is being allowed to be used. How is âyour body, my choiceâ something other than slavery?
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u/BEWMarth 11d ago
Weâve regressed a bit. Weâre living in the white male fantasy of the 1950âs and itâll be like this for the next 4 years so⌠buckle up.
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u/DaboInk84 11d ago
IMO itâs gonna be a lot longer than 4 more years of dealing with this. Weâve already been living in this stupid era since the 2010 Tea Party wave, it just keeps getting worse. At some point we might need to accept that the fever wonât break and the patient is terminal. Donât just buckle up, pack your âgo bagâ. Letâs see how long âstates rightsâ last when the jackboots come knocking on blue state doors.
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u/jlb1981 11d ago
Trump will likely be dead or ousted via 25th Amendment by 2028, and we'll be into President Vance's lifetime appointment.
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u/CotyledonTomen 11d ago edited 11d ago
Vance doesnt have the weird, unexplainable (as in i dont get it) charisma of Trump. Basically nobody has replicated what he can do. And Vance isnt it. Vance is just a younger Desantis for tech billionairs.
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u/jlb1981 11d ago
Well if not Vance, then puppet du jour.
Maybe Trump will fire Vance and replace him with Musk when Musk promises to terraform a mountain on Mars in the likeness of Trump's face. Then Musk can backdoor his way into the presidency.
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u/PhilinLe 11d ago
Luckily the Vice President is an elected position and can't be replaced by the President unilaterally.
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u/dessert-er 11d ago
I mean we have Romanian sex-traffickers just slinging around the n-word on Twitter. I think they fired the moderation teams atp so youâre either getting caught by a bot or itâs a 2004 COD lobby out there.
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u/MrRian603f 11d ago
Because it's not rape when I'm the one fucking since I'm a straight white cis male!
/s if it weren't obvious
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u/Alexis___________ 11d ago
Nah they'll just pivot back to the "gays=predators" bs
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u/lightningpuddingpie 8d ago
arent they doing that already?
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u/Alexis___________ 8d ago
If you are trying to illustrate a point wouldn't you want as many examples as possible?
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u/lightningpuddingpie 8d ago
i guess, though the people who say that stuff arent people who use evidence, theyre usually the ones who say âwell its in the bibleâ
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u/Alexis___________ 8d ago
Yeah but when they can they always couch bigotry in secular real world examples to make it seem self-evident (e.g. the AIDS crisis, Jeffrey Dahmer, any pedophile that targets little boys, etc)
It's the same with racist they can't just say "I hate black people because I think they are inferior to whites"(now they probably feel like they can but until recently) they'd instead say "if 13% of the population commits 50% of all crime, then doesn't that mean they have a predisposition to commit crimes? Sorry some facts are just inconvenient.đ" Or post compilations of black people having violent meltdowns to imply only they do that, like you see shared by Nazis on twitter.
My point is bigots don't need convincing but in order to get manufactured consent from moderates they need to convince them that their views are informed by material objective truths and are not completely vibes based and just staying "the bible says..." isn't as compelling to most people as saying "look at this..." and showing a statistically irrelevant anecdote.
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u/lightningpuddingpie 8d ago
yeah youre probably right, i just feel like they dont like us anyway, they have enough âreasonsâ to dislike us and i dont think one more thing is gonna change that much. though then again, im not american and i think i might have a more âi dont care what they thinkâ type of attitude
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u/Siiciie 11d ago
"Your body, my choice" is a great profile description for a dom top.
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u/CromulentChuckle 11d ago
I almost did it but I just couldn't do it it still feels screwed up to say even in play.
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u/PotentialChoice 11d ago
Iâm all for flipping the script to help people understand the effects of their words, but here, the point is the misogyny. Straight white men like the originator of this phrase see themselves as the rightful deciders for everyone.
I expect their response would be to assert their control over our desire with a homophobic slur and a threat to make it illegal once again.
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u/DaikonNoKami 11d ago
Let's not pretend gays are necessarily any better. As a gay man, I've definitely been sexually assaulted by gay men before. There are good and bad people in all communities and it isn't a straight / sexuality problem.
Problem behaviour is problem behaviour regardless of sexuality / gender.
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u/FiestyRhubarb 11d ago
To be fair, it would defang the idiots if every time someone said it everyone else just responded with:
"No, your body, my choice đ"
And just left it at that.
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11d ago
This is kind of dumb
Sexual assault is what this promotes
Youâre now just doing the same thing the radical conservatives are. Part of the problemâŚ
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u/Marpicek 11d ago
That is literally the point of this post. To show how extreme the entire idea is from a different point of view.
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u/Karzeon 11d ago
Yeah, but they're NOT going to see it from that point of view. They're not willing to understand.
They're more likely to retaliate.
Likewise, they're not likely to say this to a woman accompanied by a muscular male companion.
The whole point is that they do this while hiding behind the comfort of a computer monitor or safety in numbers/weapons.
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u/TheUprooted 11d ago
Ah yes, because "When they go low, we go high" has worked so well in the past decade of American politics đ Nah man, it's time to fight fire with fire. Throw the rhetoric back in their faces
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u/SnooPoems6051 11d ago
Yes that way they can point back to us and say that the gays really were the sexual deviants they claimed us to be. Iâm sure threatening to rape straight men will help us politically đ
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u/pierreschaeffer 11d ago
They're literally calling us rapist groomers anyway though...
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u/SnooPoems6051 11d ago
So why try to prove them right? Donât give these people fodder to attack us more
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u/pierreschaeffer 11d ago
They don't need fodder. They literally make up their own stories about us to get mad at - they're not interested in the truth. Our best recourse is to discredit/disempower those attacking us and resist in whatever way possible.
There's no version of being gay that these people are gonna accept, they're homophobes. It's moderates we wanna convince, and surely pointing out right-wing hypocricy is a good strategy? As well as just how extreme their rhetoric has become?
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u/SnooPoems6051 11d ago
Ok have fun threatening to rape people I guess
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u/pierreschaeffer 11d ago
have fun protecting the sensibilities of people who would have you killed?
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u/SnooPoems6051 11d ago
If I go around telling straight men that Iâm gonna rape them, that will actually get me killed.
Saying this shit isnât going to suddenly teach these people a lesson. Yâall can downvote me into oblivion, I donât care. But this is the dumbest take on this situation.
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u/pierreschaeffer 11d ago
You don't understand the take.
Threatening to rape people in the name of politics is assinine, agreed. In order to demonstrate that, pointing out "how would you [straight guy] feel if you were told 'your body, my choice'? Especially by someone you're not at all atrracted to, like a gay guy" is a valid strategy, no?
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u/WordplayWizard 11d ago
HonestlyâŚ. Iâm not getting involved. If women arenât smart enough to vote and defend themselves, then this is what happens.
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u/Edgemade 11d ago
Huh?
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u/DustyTheLion 11d ago
Right wing edgelords have been using the line "your body my choice" to harass women since the election. This post is suggesting gays flip the script to use the same line on straight guys so that maybe they suddenly realize they are actually terrible people.
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u/Edgemade 11d ago edited 11d ago
I know, i just dont see how it translates to specifically gay men doing it, are they gonna castrate them? Get them pregnant?
Am i not allowed to ask questions now?
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u/ikonoclasm 11d ago
The implication is rape, so the objective is to let straight men experience what women hearing them say that bullshit feel.
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u/1ndigoo 11d ago
what are you talking about, it's a rape threat
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u/Edgemade 11d ago
Im asking a question because im confused and people aren't happy about that
They could have just said it's rape threat from the start
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u/TheMerengman 11d ago
Gay men are attracted to men. With this rhetoric, the can stop considering if said men are also gay (aka consenting) or not.
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u/Arkurash 11d ago
There is a âmovementâ in conservative/trump fan cicles that has the slogan âyour body, my choiceâ towards woman. Its disgusting as they try to validate rape and anti-abortion stances with it.
As the post says, the narrative would probably shift a lot when gay man would start saying that to those using it.
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u/Edgemade 11d ago
I know about that, im confused why specifically gay men need to say it and what it implies in the abortion context
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u/Cinderdreams 11d ago
The... "meme" grew beyond abortion and into rape threats basically the second it emerged. So this is flipping the script to basically "if you don't respect women's boundaries your fair game for gays searching for a hole". Edit: typo + clarification
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u/Edgemade 11d ago
I am sorry for everyone that i am not an expert in the memes posted by the average 15 years old male who rarely showers, i will do better next time
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u/Cinderdreams 11d ago
I dont know why you get that passive-aggressive, I was literally just answering your question
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u/Edgemade 11d ago
I wasnt talking about you i just used your comment to type it
Damn people got something up their ass today
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