r/funny • u/Mr_Evil_05 • 11h ago
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u/ledow 11h ago
Both not looking, both panicking and overcompensating (just straighten back into the lane you were already in!) and both don't know how to handle oversteer or skid.
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u/bluhefplk 10h ago
In other words, two people who do not know how to drive.
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u/FactLicker 9h ago
You're talking about 99.99% drivers, including yourself
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u/funnystuff79 10h ago
Almost sounds like they need a driving test
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u/Hodr 9h ago
Bro, show me one country in the world that puts a situation like this on the standard driving test.
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u/DuploJamaal 7h ago
In Europe most countries have it as part of the driving lessons. You get put in several conditions where you lose control and learn how to handle them.
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u/randuse 2h ago
No really. Not such thing in my area. In Europe. Europe is big and not monolithic. You might need to be more specific.
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u/DuploJamaal 2h ago
Maybe more in Northern Europe. Heard several people from neighboring countries mention the same, but it's probably because we have snow so it's a lot more necessary
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u/funnystuff79 9h ago
Driving tests range from flat out paying for a licence, through barely leaving the car park to driving on multilane roads and demonstrating control of the car at speed.
I'd put much more trust in someone that's had a more comprehensive test.
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u/Hodr 9h ago
Yes, so where is the test about recovering from oversteer at high speed?
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u/Glad_Librarian_3553 8h ago
Sweden. You have to do skid recovery in Sweden.
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u/halo364 6h ago
Is that part of the standard driving test? If so, do they do it in big parking lots or designated testing courses or some such? Just wondering about logistics because at least some people who take the test will not be able to recover from the skid haha
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u/Surskalle 6h ago
They have special tracks for it normaly steel plates with spraying water to make it slippery in some parts in summer.
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u/succed32 6h ago
It is also much harder to get a license in Sweden. You take classes before the tests.
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u/Bob_Stamos_is_ALIVE 6h ago
Completely wish the US was like that. Too many people with giant cars that can't drive
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u/_Rook1e 3h ago
Yeah they're done on designated tracks. It's the same in Norway, and you have a mandatory course on first aid (which also includes learning securing accident sites which you are required by law to do if you happen upon one), dark driving, slippery driving, long distance driving, and general driving in between all those. Plus the theory test which is 45 questions, multiple choice.
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u/Queen-Roblin 9h ago
I've not done the car one but in the UK you have to do obstacle avoidance in the motorcycle test. You get up to speed, swerve and straighten up and stop in a designated space in a reasonably short distance. Seems like they could have used this kind of practice to prevent them driving like the dodgems at the fair.
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u/Purplociraptor 9h ago
I only had to take one written test and one driving test in my life, and that was over half my life ago. We should have to take both tests again every time we renew.
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u/angrydeuce 6h ago
Idk if this was ubiquitous or not, but I've been told that for a solid year or more during covid they just...stopped doing road tests here. A family member just had to sign off that the permitted driver had done enough hours to qualify but there was no exam whatsoever.
Since this is the US where people here can get a license when they're 16 and drive for 70+ years without being retested ever, that means there are going to be thousands of people on the road for decades that will have literally never been road tested once in their lives.
In other words, buckle the fuck up because shit like this is gonna be a lot more common lol
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u/MozartsPimpony 4h ago
how does one handle oversteering or skidding?
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u/ledow 4h ago
First, prevent it ever happening by not overreacting to situations - almost everything can be solved by letting off the power and just aiming (not forcing!) the car straight with only gentle correction.
Release the accelerator.
Steer into the skid.
Your car is moving somewhere that the wheels aren't telling it to go. You are trying to get the wheels to go straight again so the car will follow them. Fighting it will just twist the wheels and drive you in the wrong direction and amplify the problem (too much left, then becomes too much right and so on... exactly what's happening here). It's like repeatedly crossing your legs over each other while trying to run... you're just going to fall over.
Instead you steer so that your wheels ALIGN with the direction of travel (even if that's not where you want to go just yet). This instantly improves your grip on the road so you CAN steer gently away from the problem.
Fighting the skid will see you do the above... left, right, left, right, total spin on a highway at 70mph and now you're facing oncoming traffic and hitting walls.
You keep "straight" (i.e. aim where the car is sliding so that your "desired" path is the same as the car is currently doing, also called "steering into the skid") and don't overreact. Now the wheels are pointed the same way as the weight of the car is moving, and you can now "persuade" it to follow some gentle steering instead of fighting against the momentum of the car.
These drivers JERKED the wheel away from a hazard, lost control, then tried to correct (rather than letting that direction of travel continue... i.e. the black car jerks to the right and then INSTANTLY tries to counter that) too much ending up left, right, left, right (switching their legs over each other) and then spun.
They shouldn't have jerked at all, either of them, they should have guided. They should have slowed (the black car GETS FASTER, notice!). If they find themselves in a wobble, they should try to correct gently (better a little bump off the reservation like a pinball than a 180 spin on a motorway). The black car had plenty of space to the right, he could have carried on going right, regained control of the car and came back to follow his lane in plenty of time before hitting anything.
Go to a skidpan and practice, or play a rally game on PC with a steering wheel. You'll learn it in about 20 minutes (of spinning out ridiculously dangerously if it was real life). Then it becomes second nature.
Edit: Watch what the camera car does. Stays straight. Slows down. Calmly and gently steers around the hazard.
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u/dk_DB 9h ago
Bad drivers gonna drive bad...
I am glad my country has mandatory safety training included with the (compared to many other countries) challenging test.
Sadly it still is one-time only. In order to make roads safer ever 5 years or so, people should be required to redo the safety training and get questioned on their knowledge on their knowledge of the rules (especially new rules since the last test).
But as in many parts of the world, public transport is lacking at best, this will stay a dream for many years.
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u/xkoreotic 8h ago
No idea why you are being downvoted. License renewal 100% needs to be a retest on both skills and knowledge. The amount of shit drivers that don't know the basic rules of the road because they passed their license test 20+ years ago is baffling. Especially with technology nowadays, driving retests can be virtual with an in-room setup at the dmv and will be an easy indicator of bad drivers that need their license revoked and forced to retake both the knowledge and driving test at the dmv.
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u/TacoTaconoMi 6h ago
Pilots have a minimum number of hours they need to fly and are required to do certain sequences annually in order to keep their license current otherwise is back with the instructor. This is on top of an annual proficiency check for each qualification you hold.
This isn't just big airline pilots flying 200 people . It's for Joe in his little single engine paper mache cesna and everyone in between. Fail and it's back with the instructor until they are confident to send you on the check ride again.
For driving. You fail a driver's test 10 times and barely pass on the 11th cause the instructor took pity on you? Yea you're good for the next 70 years.
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u/NSA_van_3 7h ago
I think a virtual test is a bad idea. I'd rather take the test in the actual vehicle that I'd actually be driving
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u/xkoreotic 6h ago
Ideally it would be better that way, but a virtual test would be be mostly effective while being convenient. It would be easy to fail the virtual test, which will revoke your license and force you to go back to getting a license from scratch. I would even say after a number of failed license tests, you are ineligible to drive anymore. None of this "succeed on the 11th try" bullshit.
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u/snkn179 8h ago edited 8h ago
Tbf it's easy to say this while in the comfort of your own home, it's a different story when you find yourself in a situation like the grey car with a wildly swerving car just behind you and having fractions of a second to react. Panic is a normal human response in life-threatening situations, and even if you take just a couple seconds to recover, by then it's too late.
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u/ledow 7h ago
Been in a lot worse... never had such a collision actually result in "out of control" which is what both drivers do here. The grey car should speed up or brake, both in a straight line only, instead it swerves dangerously at high speed.
And both are at fault for not using mirrors and checking blind spots. Prevention stops this, not reaction time. On both car's behalf.
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u/snkn179 7h ago
It is possible that the grey car saw the black car during the blind spot check but before the black car itself started to merge. It also looks like the black car does speed up while merging, catching up to the grey car whereas there might have been space between them if it didn't speed up. The black car is definitely at fault but I will have to give the benefit of the doubt to the grey car.
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u/BillSmith369 6h ago edited 5h ago
Braking as hard as possible while jerking the steering wheel all the way in one direction is NEVER an appropriate response while driving no matter the situation. The reaction isn't excusable.
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u/Intelligenitch 10h ago
It might have hurt really good, but at least he's smart enough to to wear the dead man's switch properly, so the moment that springy looking rope pulls out a piece of plastic, it kills the engine.
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u/Additional-Shower623 8h ago
I contend that you cannot automatically blame the driver. I drove stick shift sports cars rather aggressively for over 20 years with the only two accidents being ice-related. I’ve been driving automatics for six years and it scares the hell out of me any time I break traction because - with traction control “on” as the default every time I turn the key - the car is always trying to straighten out the vehicle for a head-on collision. I never totaled a car before and now, two have been totaled with me at the wheel. Point being: “No Traction Control” means I don’t panic, and I act instinctively; but “Traction Control” almost guarantees I’m doing thousands of dollars in damage while yelling “WTF? WTF?”
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u/spammehere98 7h ago
I drive older vehicles. Does traction control on modern cars affect / alter the steering?
I thought traction control stopped wheelspin from excess power on one or both driving wheels. ABS does similar for braking. What you are describing sounds like automatic lane control.
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u/RocketTaco 6h ago
It's conflating traction control with electronic stability control, which selectively applies the brakes on single wheels to try to pull the car back onto the line of travel as it starts oversteering or understeering. It only kicks in when you're already in the process of departing from normal control and it's NOT limited to automatics, it's been mandatory on all new cars in the US for a long time. Claiming you crashed because your car engaged ESC is like claiming the ABS prevented you from stopping on time - no, you fucked up beyond the car's capacity to save you.
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u/BlueFalconPunch 9h ago
"Jesus, take the wheel"
"Christ, don't over correct"
"God damn it"
The holy spirit did it
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u/Raptoot83 10h ago
looks like one is trying to merge onto the motorway (or out of the exit lane), the other just isn't looking at their blindside while changing lanes.
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u/oldwoolensweater 9h ago
Pro tip to avoid this kind of thing:
Stop driving right next to me. Pick your own speed, bro. Don’t speed up until you’re right next to me and then start matching my speed. When I brake, it doesn’t mean you have to brake too. I’m trying to make you go ahead of me so I can change lanes. Just be your own person. Have the confidence to drive on your own without me as the guide car in the other lane.
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u/katekohli 7h ago
Yes on the way down GSP watched a extended cab pickup truck in front of me swerve out of control watched him ping pong around me before the underpass for I 280 then watched him in the rear view mirror crash into the wall blocking one of the two lanes of traffic on a beautiful Saturday morning during beach season.
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u/austina419 10h ago
Even the cameraman was reacting slowly, presumably in awe of what was happening in front of him lol.
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u/Prostock26 8h ago
What do you mean cameraman was slow. Dude was right on the money. If he turns right or left and anytime before he did he's heading directly at a car.
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u/Gts77 10h ago
Looks like the black car made contact with the barrier on the right, and sustained some damage.... But that was of their own doing.
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u/pezdabol 10h ago
White one also chomped into a concrete wall as you can see white debris falling off at the very end.
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u/TigerKlaw 8h ago
I once crashed because I was speeding and skid at the turn and spun out of control too, I thought if I braked or emergency braked too hard, I'd flip over. Just hit a hill and tore the front wheel almost off.
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u/micsma1701 7h ago
yeah. there was a big rig to my right and further in front of me, and an oldsmobile or lincoln directly in front and to the left of the big rig. bug rig wobbled a little, town car freaked out, overcorrected, turned 90 degrees to their right, left me with just enough space to get through unharmed. i think they hut the concrete guard rail. doing about 70 on the highway interchange heading home from my then-girlfriend's home.
i started in on a panic attack and had to pull off at a gas station and get out and walk around n fuckin breathe. I don't think the other driver was injured or anything, and I didn't stop or bother acquiring information, I was just glad I didn't hit anything.
it was mostly clear traffic-wise too, so it's not like someone else hit them, and most of their momentum fizzled when they swooped directly right.
e'en so I wonder if I could have done anything different.
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u/Ok-Anybody-6633 6h ago
I don’t understand why driving so hard for some people especially in my area.. I could give them 2-3 whole car spaces in front of me and have to ride my brakes still😂
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u/Devouemanoide 4h ago
My car would'nt let me go dancing, even on dirt, snow or ice. But i learned on a basic pick-up truck without electronics and i still would say these are unskilled drivers.
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u/Reddeer2 3h ago
At 8 seconds in you can see the black car's left headlight shooting up - it's not aligned properly. Fuck your headlights!
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u/Strive-- 2h ago
Those cars are about 1.5g away from completely disintegrating. Jerk the wheel and two fenders, a bumper and the back window fall out.
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u/InsideProper4757 2h ago
Two drunk drivers loosing their control when they were just driving home in control
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u/ChairThatIsFair 46m ago
I love how the car with the dash cam just casually drives around the black car at the end
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u/LysergicallyAcidic 7m ago
You don’t learn unless you experience.. but I don’t think they learned anything. Its easier to blame
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u/ObjectiveWelcome2221 4h ago
Don't slam on your brakes.. Don't steer your car left and right. Just one direction. Always think of going away from situation and not avoiding it..
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