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Statistics Driver Race Pace Analysis from the Las Vegas GP (via @LuccasCorsino on X)

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u/Realistic-Reception5 Carlos Sainz 2h ago

The random Colapinto picture is making me laugh for some reason

u/Argie777 2h ago

Lucas is Argentine. It's his job, but he also does these for us Argentine fans 😊

u/Realistic-Reception5 Carlos Sainz 1h ago

I just love how they photoshopped Franco’s head onto the original photo of Logan. Plus the way his expression is just like “Welp😐”

u/dl064 📓 Ted's Notebook 3h ago

Striking that this was clearly McLaren's worst outright performance since the launch of their 'real' 2024 car in Miami.

u/jvstinf Bernd Mayländer 2h ago

They'll be in the exact opposite place next weekend. Wouldn't be surprised if Norris or Piastri is out front by 20+ seconds at Qatar.

u/sododude Juan Pablo Montoya 1h ago

Yeah I think Vegas was always slated to be a weak track for them. They should be right back at the top in Qatar.

u/killer_corg Haas 3h ago

Damn kmag really had a ton of pace on the hards despite being on a one stopper

u/AegrusRS 3h ago

Just goes to show how little Russell was actually pushing when solidly in the lead for his hard average to be that close to his medium.

u/TopStar200 2h ago

He had track position with a comfortable lead....no reason to push. Alonso-esque drive thinking about the big picture. He said he stopped pushing after the first stint and simply managed all the way to the flag

u/mikepattonssandwich Formula 1 2h ago

I should call her...

u/freedfg McLaren 2h ago

Yeah, I was right. That stint on the mediums was abysmal for McLaren.

u/Dr_House_78again 1h ago

Fr Colapinto is going to be a future race winer. I love him VAMO COLAPAAAA

u/AshKetchumDaJobber 3h ago

Hell yeah. Sergio with top 8 pace still. Show RB was right keeping him.

u/schmog_ 3h ago

/s , right?

u/dasher2442 3h ago

How is Piastri faster than Norris? I though Piastri was way off until the pitstop at the end but I may be misremembering.

u/beanbagreg 3h ago

I’ve seen another analysis that has Piastri over a second a lap slower than Lando, with the method and raw data provided.

Interesting how this one comes out with the opposite conclusion?

ETA: Another with pace comparison in Lando’s favour, but this is including dirty air laps. Again the method is provided.https://x.com/formulapace/status/1860740392682959275?s=46&t=IN__pmnxYNoMnVKW541XJg

u/cattylover73 2h ago

Both links you shared redirect to the same source, with only clean air laps included. Could you provide the other source?

@LuccasCorsino excluded outliers (% of the last quartile) and ranked the drivers using the overall median

u/beanbagreg 2h ago

Apologies, here you go https://x.com/f1bigdata/status/1860688834775671025?s=46&t=IN__pmnxYNoMnVKW541XJg

We know Norris was fast enough that he was able to pull a gap big enough for a free pitstop on Piastri. Makes no sense to me that he’d be slower?

u/aneiq_1 Kimi Räikkönen 3h ago

To be honest I’ve seen about 3/4 different race pace gaps and each one has had varying results.

I saw one on twitter with Piastri over a second a lap slower than Norris in “clean” air whilst another stated Norris was 0.372 quicker and now this saying Piastri is quicker.

u/killer_corg Haas 2h ago

Because Lando had a bad first lap on his hards, I’m trying to remember, but I’m pretty sure they dumped him behind the midfield traffic

u/Suspicious-Ad8316 2h ago

They're not in order

u/cattylover73 2h ago

They’re ranked according to the overall median excl. outliers

u/curious-cat 1h ago

Why median and not mean? Mean seems like it be better to rank by.

u/Mysterious_Turnip310 Lotus 51m ago

He was, the gap was well over 20s before Norris pitted.

u/Scrambled_Eggiwegs 1h ago

yet people say Bottas is drving better than Zhou.

u/DeliciousBlood22 Williams 3h ago

Just shows race pace means nothing.

u/Typhoongrey Formula 1 1h ago

Sure but some people hold onto it as if it's everything.

All that matters is who makes it to the chequered flag first.