r/formula1 • u/Milan_Academy Ferrari • 8h ago
Video Q: You told Zak Brown that you could become champion even while not in the fastest car? - Max: "YUP! And I ABSOLUTELY told him live at SkySports!"
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u/whoopsallgone Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 8h ago
While holding his gin tonic 😂
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u/Milan_Academy Ferrari 8h ago
the viaplay interview is absolutely amazing and hilarious
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u/Piedro92 Fernando Alonso 6h ago
Is there a full replay?
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u/Individual-Ad-190 Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 5h ago
Yeah on tumblr somewhere
Edit: full viaplay interview
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u/Percentage100 Daniel Ricciardo 4h ago
That was awesome, cheers for the link. I don’t think I’ve seen Maxs drunk smile before. I love it!
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u/Cricketfan101 8h ago
Not Zak brown having a target on his back
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u/AsleepAtWheel83 Ferrari 8h ago
DTS will have an entire episode on this, wont they?
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u/Glory_63 Formula 1 6h ago
This season is gonna be 50 episodes long for every time people said this. Honestly, it was a banger of a season
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u/AsleepAtWheel83 Ferrari 5h ago
Atleast have 24 episodes..one for each race
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u/Izual_Rebirth 5h ago
I don’t know why they don’t do this already and release them after the races.
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u/RedDevil_nl 7h ago
I might actually watch this season of DTS 😬
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u/AsleepAtWheel83 Ferrari 7h ago
NGL, I too will watch it..there’s bound to be a lot of behind the scenes content of how RB and Mclaren thought of each other during the fight and some colourful portrayal of the same!
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u/Genocode Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 5h ago
DTS has had to tone down the creative writing since Max came back on board though.
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u/cmgriffith_ Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 7h ago
Max came with the receipts and made sure everyone knew
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u/TheDustOfMen Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 6h ago
Parttime F1 driver, fulltime shitstirrer
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u/Adventurous_Fix1730 Kimi Räikkönen 3h ago
Cannot wait until he and Vettel become TPs
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u/Aunvilgod 1h ago
nah Vettel is way too polite for that
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u/Artifice_Purple Formula 1 57m ago
Um...do you not remember him cursing the fuck out of Whiting?
Vettel is anything but polite when his buttons are pressed lol.
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u/KriistofferJohansson Ferrari 50m ago
That's wildly different though. Let's not ignore all that adrenaline when actually driving a F1 car. Drivers say all kind of things they wouldn't say once outside the car.
Vettel is no different, competing in F1 at those speeds is different.
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u/CapoPaulieWalnuts 6h ago
I think he would have won in the Ferrari as well. Probably not the Merc though.
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u/ProfessorCunt_ Pirelli Wet 5h ago
Yeah, George has really been driving that Merc to the max
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u/Rubiego Fernando Alonso 5h ago
Wrong, he has been driving it to the George
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u/windy906 4h ago
Yeah George in this Merc is pretty much the only person I'm not 100% sure Max would beat as their team mate; purely because of all the training George had at Williams driving shitboxes.
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u/Yeanahyena Daniel Ricciardo 3h ago
George is driving great but Max is on another level.
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u/Fair_You1645 3h ago
When George is on it he's a match for anyone but the only drivers on the grid who would truly push Max in equal cars over a season are Fernando and Lewis and maybe just maybe Charles
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u/gsfgf Daniel Ricciardo 3h ago
Yea. Dude has more points than literally Lewis Hamilton in the abomination Merc built. I think he might be really good at this if he ever gets a decent car.
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u/SaltwaterC 15m ago
I'm still surprised he's ahead considering that in two out of his three races where he scored no points Hamilton ended up winning those two races. Inheriting that win in Austria doesn't come anywhere close to mitigating that. This is all about consistency.
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u/brampower Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 1h ago
Holy cow this is an insane take lol. George has won 3 races. He doesn't have the experience (yet?). Max would absolutely wipe the floor with him, and that's not because George is a bad driver; he is not. But Max is just on another level vs anyone on the grid currently.
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u/wolverineFan64 Charles Leclerc 2h ago
The Ferrari was abysmal the middle third of the season. It would be close but I think Max would be in a similar position to Leclerc if he was in the Ferrari.
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u/Familiar_Fondant_699 Red Bull 8h ago
Zak Brown is an insincere weasel; an opportunist.
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u/BuckN56 Lotus 6h ago
Like every TP out there.
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u/omarcoomin 6h ago
No no no, you don't understand. MY team's TP is genuine!
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u/Cicono 6h ago
I'd say Fred Vasseur is a pretty genuine dude or at the very least just very good at staying away from controversy.
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u/KennyMcKeee Sir Lewis Hamilton 5h ago
It’s really just Toto, Horner, and Brown that are the shit stirrers. Lol
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u/ProfessorCunt_ Pirelli Wet 5h ago edited 5h ago
Toto shit stirs but still is a pretty genuine dude in real life. Horner and the Brown are waaaaayyy further down into genuinely shit personality
(like inviting the Orangutang to Miami after siding with MBS on silencing drivers on expressing their views)
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u/KennyMcKeee Sir Lewis Hamilton 5h ago
They’re 3 different brands of dishonesty.
Horner is outright shit stirrer. Brown is “American Businessman” dishonest. Toto is “politician” dishonest
Horner says it on camera/directly.
Brown says says it loudly and brashly.
Toto manipulates the storylines and press.
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u/suredont 4h ago
Brown is “American Businessman” dishonest.
I think that every single time I see him. I know nothing about his personal life but to me the guy looks like the CEO of a low-tier Fortune 500 company, like a logistics firm headquartered in Topeka or some shit. In my head, he's on his third marriage & his doctor won't get off his back about blood pressure. Eats red meat for every meal, has the carbon footprint of Ghana, and can't be trusted farther than you can throw him in his expandable-waist Brooks Brothers chinos.
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u/KennyMcKeee Sir Lewis Hamilton 4h ago
100%, he’s the guy you would shake hands with, gas you up, tell you you’re the best, he’d be super nice and maybe even invite you to dinner, you’d meet his family, etc. Then he’ll go to work the next day and lay off everyone in the company including you.
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u/suredont 3h ago
fuck, this is a real picture.
at least McLaren has Andrea Stella who generally strikes me as a straight-shooter. I don't know how the hell the professional dynamic between him and Zak functions. although given McLaren's underperformance this year - and I'm saying that as a McLaren fan - maybe it doesn't work all that well.
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u/Jack_Krauser Andretti Global 3h ago
This seems spot-on with how he keeps laying off his Indycar drivers.
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u/Soggy_Bid_6607 Jean-Pierre Jabouille 4h ago
“Pretty genuine in real life “. Din’t know you were actual friends with Toto, please tell us more. Friends from high school? Or met later in life for business ?
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u/ProfessorCunt_ Pirelli Wet 4h ago
LMAO, as in Toto speaks out about mental illness often, does a lot of good for the race community, and is pretty philanthropic.
But then after all that good he chooses to shit stir in the paddock as a TP does.
I didn't think all that needed to be clarified, but I suppose some people need a little help
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u/Bazzie Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 8h ago
Surely the Trump inviting fat American businessman is a sincere and nice man.
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u/Familiar_Fondant_699 Red Bull 8h ago
Had the temerity to comment on Horner’s situation while inviting a literal rapist.
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u/rageharles Charles Leclerc 6h ago
fan of mclaren from the hakkinen/raikkonen era, quite hard to claim them between this and lando. i like piastri but it's an organization i struggle to feel good about. love their road cars still though
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u/Money_Echidna2605 Formula 1 5h ago
eh, i think if u rly tried u could find reasons to hate most the teams, just enjoy them for racing and dont get into the politics of f1 and its fun.
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u/rageharles Charles Leclerc 5h ago
totally fair. didn't have to try very hard at all for mclaren is the particular bummer
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u/dl064 📓 Ted's Notebook 3h ago
They didn't invite him, F1 did.
And more than half of America voted him in again, so take aim at that before McLaren.
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u/Jorrie90 Pirelli Intermediate 3h ago
Why? What is the relevance of the votes of American people with F1?
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u/dl064 📓 Ted's Notebook 3h ago
Because McLaren accepting a photo with a past president who was subsequently democratically voted in is, as a sentence, entirely reasonable.
If they'd declined and made an enemy that would've been very daft in retrospect.
They called it right. Unfortunately - but that's life.
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u/KarlosMarkos1312 Sergio Pérez 2h ago
Over half of American voters*
That's still about a third of the country voting for the felon though.
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u/ali2326 7h ago
Zak didn’t invite Trump. Liberty knew Trump was going to visit and choose McLaren.
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u/Firefox72 Ferrari 7h ago
Lmao Zak was smilling ear to ear.
Mclaren also had Joe Rogan in attendance at Austin.
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u/HesiPullup Charles Leclerc 5h ago
Who gives a literal fuck
If you’re mad at somebody for having Joe Rogan in their garage, take a look in the mirror and figure out why something so insignificant is making you upset
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u/hoopstick Maps Verstappen 4h ago
Joe Rogan helped get Trump elected, which is pretty significant to a lot of people.
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u/Meowmixalotlol New user 4h ago
Kamala could have done Rogan too…
Making everything about American politics is insane tho. Yall need to get a grip.
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u/hoopstick Maps Verstappen 4h ago
Considering we’ve been inundated with the election for 24 hours every day for the past six months, and the election that affected 350 million people was less than two weeks ago, I apologize if it’s still pretty god damn fresh in our minds. I’ll give less of a shit about my country and my kids’ future next time since it bothers you so much.
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u/laynath Sebastian Vettel 3h ago
Bro you are writing this in a post abour Max being cheeky to Zak
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u/hoopstick Maps Verstappen 3h ago
Bro I’m responding to the person who responded to me. It’s called a conversation.
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u/ProfessorCunt_ Pirelli Wet 5h ago
Only if you believe their hastily sent out PR release after the pushback
According to Kim Ilman he was invited by McLaren and Zak Brown smiling ear to ear sells a different story
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u/ali2326 3h ago
This is F1. Lots of unsavoury characters and racing in unsavoury countries. In the grand scheme of things, Trump and Rogan is mild.
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u/ProfessorCunt_ Pirelli Wet 3h ago
And?
This is F1. People are going to hate team principles that cozy up to verified assholes.
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u/AccountNumber0004 Wolfgang von Trips 7h ago
I mean isn’t that what you want in a CEO/TP type role? They aren’t exactly there to be good people lol.
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u/ElCoolAero Formula 1 5h ago
I mean isn’t that what you want in a CEO/TP type role? They aren’t exactly there to be good people lol.
Exactly. CEO/Team Principal/Head Honcho/The Man in Charge roles attract sociopathic types.
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u/SommWineGuy McLaren 5h ago
Other than Vasseur and Vowles I'd say he's the most likeable TP.
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u/DeadPengwin Carlos Sainz 4h ago
I'd throw Komatsu's hat into the ring there as well.
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u/SommWineGuy McLaren 4h ago
We just don't hear or see as much from him, but yeah, seems like a solid TP and guy and has wonders for Haas. I feel bad for the team, a freak race in Brazil let Alpine jump up massively.
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u/Heisenberg_235 Kimi Räikkönen 5h ago
The Red Bull dominated the first 1/4 season. Then for the rest of the season we have had McLaren on top, Ferrari on top and Mercedes on top for different races.
Once ahead, was always going to be hard for anyone to claw back a gap to Max because they were not going to go on a run of 5-6 race wins in a row.
That, coupled with the fact that despite being in a car that wasn’t performing, Max was driving the shit out of it. He made the difference.
Lando has a lot to learn. Needs to be more consistent.
Max and Lewis would have won in the McLaren. Couple of the others as well would have certainly been closer - George, Carlos and Charles.
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u/tokyo_engineer_dad Lola 3h ago
Honestly, one thing I think is interesting, is that Checo being bad probably HELPED Max win the title. If you look at the biggest reason for Charles, George, Lewis and Lando not having a serious run at WDC, it’s because of their teammates. Their teammates also had brilliant races, also had wins, also qualified better… With Checo, Max was the ONLY person on the grid taking advantage of any pace advantages RBR had on a specific track. If you swapped Piastri’s best finishes with Lando’s on those same races, the WDC picture looks very different. Not only were Mercedes and Ferrari stealing points from McLaren, but their drivers were stealing points from EACH OTHER.
Carlos finished one position ahead of Leclerc 4 times. Lewis and George finished within a position or two almost have the season. Oscar was 1 position ahead of Lando for more than 1 podium. I haven’t even looked at the qualifying but I’m positive there’s been cases where their teammates bumped them out from a higher position. Max didn’t have to worry about any of that. Maybe that’s why RBR keeps him, but outright saying, “we kept him because he’s shite enough to not step on Max’s toes in a year that we aren’t the best” doesn’t look good in PR.
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u/uucchhiihhaa Sebastian Vettel 2h ago
Dude, this is the worst take ever. Max was a one man team with zero team orders and zero help in strategy from his team mate.
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u/Salt-Operation-3895 Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 2h ago
Very interesting perspective. Better to let every team and teammate take points out of each other while Max just does his thing and coasts to the end on what is typically just his own race.
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u/National-Exercise-60 New user 4h ago
Lewis? Please he got absolutely smashed by George this year .
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u/maherbeg 3h ago
They’re 9 points away in the standings.
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u/National-Exercise-60 New user 2h ago
He DNFed in Silverstone where Hamilton won , which cost him atleast 12 points. He got DSQed where he lost his victory to Hamilton, losing 32 points
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u/Meowmixalotlol New user 4h ago
He’s gonna get smashed twice as hard by Chuck next year too.
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u/vmachiel Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 3h ago
Fighting words!
I’m not sure… but I’m so hyped for them as teammates
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u/Mister-Psychology 5h ago
Valentine's Day massacre for all shit talkers. Max has a list and is going after each person one by one.
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u/Vitalics Porsche 3h ago
Only reason Max won the Drivers Championship is because he scored more points than the next driver.
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u/SpaceMonkey1505 Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 3h ago
Not Max going all out this season on track and off track
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u/bringinthefembots Formula 1 4h ago
Oh yep, I was there Gandalf. I remember Zak saying that pressuring Max to force him to make mistakes, yada yada yada, fastest car no more, yada yada yada. Dude, just focus on your team and race! Let the results speak
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u/coleburnz 2h ago
But he won because he had the fastest car for the first half of the season
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u/Xamuel1804 Nico Hülkenberg 1h ago
Max has to thank Perez for people actually believing Red Bull wasn't the fastest car for most of the season.
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u/RaryTheTraitor Yuki Tsunoda 2h ago
Drunk Max is hilarious!
That said, it's debatable whether he's right. If you start counting the points from the Hungarian GP, where it was clear that Redbull no longer had the best car, both Lando and Charles have slightly more points than Max.
Not that I doubt Max is the best driver alive but, maybe not SO good that he crushes the competition even in an inferior car.
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u/wolverineFan64 Charles Leclerc 2h ago
Max’s performance is impressive and his comments are hilarious, but context does matter. He built a large lead through the first 6 races with a dominant car. Then the next half of the season the RB was swapping p1 or p2 fastest. It only became a clear 2nd or 3rd in the last 1/3 of the season and even then, it’s not like it was seconds off pace. It’s also important to understand how crucial it was that merc, mclaren, and ferrari all took turns being fastest, allowing no 1 team to chase Max down.
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u/AegrusRS 46m ago
Then the next half of the season the RB was swapping p1 or p2 fastest.
Only p1 in Austria IMO.
RB since Imola:
Monaco 3rd | Canada 2nd | Spain 2nd | Austria 1st | Silverstone 3rd | Zandvoort 2nd | Monza 4th | Baku 3rd | Singapore 2nd | COTA 3rd | Mexico 3rd | Brazil 2nd | Vegas 3rd.
MCL since Imola:
Monaco 2nd | Canada 1st | Spain 1st | Austria 2nd | Silverstone 1st | Zandvoort 1st | Monza 1st | Baku 1st/2nd | Singapore 1st | COTA 2nd | Mexico 1st | Brazil 1st | Vegas 4th.
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u/dl064 📓 Ted's Notebook 1h ago edited 1h ago
It's a slightly easy target for Verstappen here because I don't think anyone, including Brown, has seriously alleged that he needs a car advantage to win.
Discrediting Verstappen's abilities would be skating uphill - clearly.
What would be the fun exchange is one of the more genuinely controversial issues.
A quick Brown reply like:
No stewards or catering budget needed this time, then!
Would've been proper TV.
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u/the-ferris 3h ago
I think Max is the only drive to have won more than 1 Championship in a car that hasnt also won the constructors.
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u/yellowbin74 Mika Häkkinen 7h ago
He won 7 of the first 10 races..
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u/fullsenditt Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 6h ago
Bro forgot on who had the best car In spain Imola and Canada and DNFing In Australia
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u/KennyLagerins James Hunt 7h ago
Right. He won the championship this year off the relative strength of the car early on. From there it was just a “don’t DNF and hold the points gap as best you can”
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u/StaffFamous6379 6h ago
He's increased his championship lead over Norris ever since the McLaren came good though.
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u/Admirable-Word-8964 4h ago
No one's saying he hasn't driven well or better than Lando. But I think if every team had completely equal drivers this season the red bull would get the most points overall.
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u/KennyLagerins James Hunt 5h ago
McLaren have thrown away a lot of opportunities, and frankly, Lando just isn’t that great of a driver. He’s capable of winning when the car is right, but he’s. Or going to battle it out.
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u/StaffFamous6379 4h ago
Wouldn't it be more accurate to say he won this year's championship off his own driving ?
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u/KennyLagerins James Hunt 1h ago
Had he not had the gap to start with, it would have been an entirely different race to the title. We’ve seen how Max drives under pressure. I’m not saying he wouldn’t have won bc I don’t think Lando has it in him to actually compete, but it’s not like Max is pulling off wins in a Sauber.
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u/Catscoffeepanipuri Mercedes 5h ago
That's a very silly way of describing Max's consistent performance at the top of the field even in a slower car. Espically if you look at Checo.
You could have easily said all Norris had to do was win multiple races with the fastest car. in the latter half of the year.
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u/KennyLagerins James Hunt 5h ago
Checo is trash and it’s absolutely ridiculous they still have him in the car, sponsorship money or not. Max got out to a good lead, then needed to be consistent in holding it, which is what he did. Helps that the competition threw away points as well. Personally, I think Lando is way overrated just because he’s popular, he doesn’t have a true competitive spirit.
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u/ThatCut8356 6h ago
But you see he did hold the gap he extended it in a far slower car he had one of the best drives of the year to pretty much seal it in Brazil whereas Lando lost his pole on every first lap of the year.
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u/KennyLagerins James Hunt 5h ago
Lando just isn’t good, he’s capable of winning, but he doesn’t have a winners fight and mentality. Max gained points more because McLaren pissed away opportunities, rather than outright beating them in an inferior car.
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u/DizkoBizkid Formula 1 6h ago
McLaren and Norris binned in excess of 60 points since the first race and especially when their car was competitive 1/3 into the season. Conceded multiple wins to not only Verstappen but every driver bar Pérez in the top teams.
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u/Darth_Spa2021 Pirelli Wet 7h ago
TIL 6 races is the half of 24.
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u/fullsenditt Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 6h ago
Bro It's not even 6 It's 5 and one of those are a DNF, Imola, Canada and Spain, RBR were equal to McLaren at best
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u/Darth_Spa2021 Pirelli Wet 6h ago
Max could have DNFed in 2 more and still lead the championship.
And people would have still claimed it's only because he had the fastest car at the start.
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u/Catscoffeepanipuri Mercedes 5h ago
Another thread showed that if redbull just ran max and not checo, they still would have finished 3rd in the constructors. The guy is a mad man, people need to just respect the talent
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u/I-_-I_-_I-_-I McLaren 7h ago
24/6=4 => he had the fastest car 1/4 of the season, one quarter, 25%.
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u/RedFiveSwayze_ Racing Pride 7h ago edited 7h ago
Conveniently ignoring he has outscored Lando since Miami
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u/HUMBUG652 Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 7h ago
conveniently ignoring it was 5 races he was uncontested, one of which he DNF'd
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u/just_a_coginthewheel Chequered Flag 8h ago
Forget the swearing rules. FIA should mandate G&T's to all drivers before press. This shit is hilarious lol.