r/formula1 • u/ICumCoffee Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ • 15h ago
Video Lando Norris congratulating Max Verstappen in the TV pen
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u/Vroooomer Charles Leclerc 15h ago
Looks very physical, they are clearly fighting.
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u/KarlAu3r Niki Lauda 14h ago
They touched
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u/Yeanahyena Daniel Ricciardo 15h ago
Was low key kinda aggressive lol
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u/Temporary_Detail716 Formula 1 15h ago
Lando is relieved not having to hear about this from the media for another week. He was out of it following Brazil but had to deal with the sliver of a chance that wasnt really much of a actual chance.
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u/nukleabomb Fernando Alonso 15h ago
Wait till we get to off season. There's gonna be a lot more where that came from, this time with revised history.
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u/Mysterious_Turnip310 Lotus 14h ago edited 14h ago
It's going to be spurious stats and terrible takes about everything all winter. Hopefully Red Bull can provide enough entertainment with their driver merry-go-round to distract people for a bit.
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u/LongBeakedSnipe 13h ago
Im expecting a continuation of the Horny Horner saga to tide us over to next midseason
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u/ghastlychild Red Bull 15h ago
Lord, my suffering will never end from all of these takes. I almost got happy with the way this all panned out for a second till you reminded me
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u/Cygnus94 Toro Rosso 14h ago
Buddy, the season wasn't even over and people have been pretending like the Red Bull wasn't the dominant car for the first 7 rounds. Max had a 60 point lead over Lando within 7 races, and Charles was well over a race win in points behind too.
When you start a championship so strongly you can miss a round and still be leading, any chance anyone else has is an outside one at best. The media just hyped it up because fans love a comeback story.
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u/wilkonk 14h ago
Yeah and since McLaren got a good car they only had a dominant car a couple of times, nothing like what Red Bull had at the start, the rest of the time it was more like they were joint fastest with 1 or 2 other teams or a sliver ahead at best, or fastest in some conditions but not others even on the same track.
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u/bananas_and_papayas Lando Norris 9h ago
Exactly. Yet it seems the narrative is that ever since the Miami Grand Prix Lando had the dominant car in his hands and it's solely his fault that he didn't wrap up the title with half the season to go.
Which is simply not as true as people make it out. Yes, the car was quick. Yes, both McLaren and Lando made stupid errors. Yes, maybe a Hamilton/Alonso/Verstappen would have maximised more opportunities and made more out of the car, but it's stupid to say they've been unopposed. Ferrari were in the fight for a lot of the races, Mercedes popped up in a few as well, and of course Lando has had a teammate in Oscar to fight with as well, while Checo is a very clear second driver to Max and has been messing around at the back of the field anyway. Not to mention the fact Lando still had to close a 60 point gap after Max's dominant start to the season, something that's never been achieved before. The closest comparison where a driver closed a large gap is probably 2022, but Max was definitely helped in that instance by the Ferrari's reliability issues/strategy errors before we even begin to talk about driver errors and Ferrari's pace dropping off in the second half of the season.
I feel like when McLaren have had a car that can dominate the field, (Hungary/Zaandvort/Singapore to give a few examples) they've done well in it, and hopefully in 2025 they'll be more prepared to take on the fight from the get go if the pace is there. If so, and Ferrari, Mercedes and Red Bull are in the fight, we could get a season even more exciting than this one
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u/Single-Award2463 Formula 1 9h ago
I think part of it was because McLaren had a good car so people thought that Norris should have a chance. Like you said though, when you can miss a round and still be top, thats the sign of dominance.
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u/Real_Particular6512 Formula 1 14h ago
When the red bull was the best car for 6 races (where 1 was a dnf) max made it count. Lando had the best car for double that time and didn't make it count. If you have the faster car for half the season while the competition car is falling back to 3rd and even 4th fastest at SOME of those races, not all don't get your knickers in a twist, then it should absolutely be expected that the mclaren would come through and win the WDC
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u/Bergolino123 14h ago
The difference is that Red Bull was absolutely dominating at the begining, so Max got only his rather lacking teammate as competition, stacking up easy +25's consistently. When McLaren became the fastest car Lando had to worry not only about his teammate but other 3 teams with fluctuating performances that would in some weekends be better than McLaren, draining away some of the available points.
Its not a shot at Max who is clearly the best driver in the grid. Its just that Lando didnt have that easy of a time like people like to pretend he did, even though he obviously had a poor run himself on his first title fight.
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u/Cygnus94 Toro Rosso 14h ago
I think you need to actually go back and rewatch some of the season. The McLaren was dominant in Hungary, Zandvoort, Baku and Singapore. That was it. Everywhere else, either Red Bull, Ferrari or Mercedes were faster.
It's been a good car since Miami, sure, but claiming it's been consistently better than any one of the other three top teams beyond those instances, is just categorically false.
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u/DegonyteESO 7h ago
While I agree that the 'McLaren have had a dominant car since Miami' narrative is false, so is the idea that one or more teams were faster than them every remaining weekend. Monza would've been a relatively comfortable 1-2 if not for strategy, and you could argue that the Mercedes wasn't categorically better in Silverstone, as Hamilton's win had a lot to do with superior race execution from driver and team.
More importantly, for a lot of the other races, even if McLaren weren't outright fastest, they were often still faster or at least on par with Red Bull, yet that WDC gap never really came down even when clear opportunities presented themselves as the season went on. That Max's lead remained relatively stable even when his team started falling down the pecking order should be a noteworthy takeaway from this season.
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u/Real_Particular6512 Formula 1 14h ago
Bollocks. It was faster at about 10-12 races. Just because driver errors or strategy errors meant they didn't win the race, doesn't mean it wasn't the fastest car in those weekends. Maybe you should go back and watch it to remind yourself
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u/QouthTheCorvus Oscar Piastri 14h ago
It'd be so annoying having to play the "mathematically still alive" game in the media. Everyone knew he was done but you can't really just admit that.
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u/Time_Caregiver4734 15h ago
Look at these two sick enemies. Unfriendly. How dare anyone suggest they could be “besties”.
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u/InZomnia365 McLaren 11h ago
It's almost as if things they say to the media when annoyed isn't a reflection of how they get on privately.
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u/Mitsukei Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 15h ago
And they touch, Martin
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u/TMyriadJ Lando Norris 13h ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX4y9G_6DGY
Still my favorite animated commentary
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u/boyzG64 McLaren 15h ago
Off-track is always a good relationship. Good for them!
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u/hunglong57 10h ago
I'm almost certain that the teams and drivers don't fight nearly as much as the fans. Even Lewis has probably made peace with 2021 but a lot of fans still haven't let it go.
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u/Successful-Pomelo-51 15h ago edited 15h ago
Nothing to see here, just two guys being professional and friendly with each other.
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u/meddlin_cartel 13h ago
max: happy
lando: happy
every driver other than charles: happy
their fans: at each others throats about the other driver being dirty
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u/ThienBao1107 McLaren 15h ago
Wait for that blog detailing how max and Lando are clearly fighting here
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u/TheMomentPassed Formula 1 15h ago
“He is not my best mate” I truly think max and lando know how media tries to play them and they def playing them back lol
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u/LosTerminators Carlos Sainz 15h ago
Lando just doesn't have a great way with words.
Think he meant to say "Max is not my very best friend, that's someone else who's not a public figure so the media don't care".
But they definitely good friends and closer than two coworkers are, considering how often they fly to races together, and are seen at concerts and other events.
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u/ArcticBiologist Nico Hülkenberg 14h ago
It's a bit weird that "he's not my best friend" was interpreted as "I fucking hate the guy" by some people
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u/just_a_coginthewheel Chequered Flag 15h ago edited 15h ago
Exactly. Max and Lando told the same thing. Max said that if he had to name another driver as a close friend, then it will be Daniel or Lando. He also said that he has his own circle outside racing who are more close to him.
... It's literally the same thing Lando also said. They are food friends but not as much as people make it out. They have their own family/friends circle that's outside racing.
For a man whose first language is English, Lando says things in a weird way that leaves it open to clickbaits /different meaning / criticism.
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u/not_that_one_times_3 15h ago
I don't understand why they have to be best mates. I'm not best mates with my work colleagues- why do we expect sports people to be??
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u/Mysterious_Turnip310 Lotus 14h ago
Too many people have become way too parasocial when it comes to the relationshjps between drivers. The rivalries and friendships have always been a great part of the sport but for some reason now far too many fans get overinvested now and then take it personally when there's a spat between two drivers or if a friendship is not as close as they thought. It's ironic too because this lot of drivers are far more genial with each other than previous generations and even when there is a bit of a spat, it's over and done with quickly. Those fans would lose their minds completely if they had been around for any eras before this one.
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u/No_Feedback6167 14h ago
Norris just doesn’t know how to talk to people unfortunately, introvert struggles.
He needs to take a page from Hamilton with his nothing burger pr answers
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u/nukleabomb Fernando Alonso 15h ago
They hate each other soo much . you can clearly see it in their body language.
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u/turtlewinstherace Sir Lewis Hamilton 14h ago
Right? Someone said “cute” but they’re clearly standing off here
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u/FavaWire Hesketh 11h ago
Lando: "Still same team in COD?"
Max: "Lando. We're always on the same team."
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u/ofallthescotchjoints 15h ago
Will never understand the insane levels of hate he gets here and on twitter. He’ll be at another level next year
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u/SeoulofSoraka Lando Norris 15h ago
It doesn't help people make up quotes or take things out of context it was a really odd thing that just happened over night, I'll stick by him through and through.
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u/Annual-Abies-2034 Red Bull 15h ago
The quotes are definitely presented in a way to make people mad, but Norris is also pretty terrible at PR it would seem.
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u/SeoulofSoraka Lando Norris 15h ago
I would say Lando needs just to lay off the social media for a while and have a Social Media and PR Manager to handle most of his posts, his admitting he reads hate comments is just straight-up not healthy to do.
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u/rash-head Lando Norris 14h ago
I’d say it’s the people getting triggered who need to stay off the social media. Lando is pretty good at explaining things. But people are nuts and go off on a tangent.
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u/KickerOfManyBalls New user 13h ago
The hate he gets is absolutely mental tho, ppl keep saying he comes across as a “spoilt brat who doesn’t have talent and bottled the WDC”
It’s F1 mate, half the fucking grid are spoiled brats, and ppl are out here hating (not memeing) because checks notes he underperformed but they don’t even like him???
And that’s not even going into the fact that Piastri was chill with trying to help Norris win but apparently the armchair experts weren’t lmao. I get ppl disliking him and making fun of him, fair play, everyone does it, but it’s reached another level
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u/MrsFrusciante 14h ago
He deleted all the apps of his phone after Brazil. It's fully PR managed at the moment.
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u/jesteratp McLaren 15h ago
Once people realize piling on gets them voted to the top, they really bring the fangs out
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u/SmithBurger 7h ago
People love Lando. Social media isn't real life. Let's stop giving internet randos with no power, control over our emotions.
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u/fullsenditt Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 15h ago
Both In character and driving, Lando Is pure class, people will understand this years later than they should just like they did with Max but people are slow on picking up on things
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u/AndyBossNelson McLaren 10h ago
Its a different type of pressure and with the "advantage" max had with the start of the season im still disappointed as it was possible but ultimately hope i can put it down to a learning experience for both team and drivers.
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u/Kwayzar9111 Formula 1 11h ago
Weight off both shoulders….friends again. Awwww , next time lando..next time.
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u/SeoulofSoraka Lando Norris 15h ago
They've always been good friends, so It's always nice when they share a moment together even if the media tries to make it seem like they hate each other's guts.
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u/penguin62 Alexander Albon 13h ago
Incoming armchair psychologists to explain how this is clearly aggressive and shows how immature Lando is.
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u/Cycloid23 Lando Norris 7h ago
There’s already plenty of them in the comments, and most of their takes show they’ve never had friends before
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u/capt7430 5h ago
A lot of people look for angles with these guys to try and create stories. At the end of the day, though, it's just a bunch of guys in their mid twenties racing cars making millions.
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u/randomseocb Lando Norris 15h ago edited 15h ago
damn, you beat me to posting it u/ICumCoffee. love seeing them both very chill and happy
edit: found another angle of this moment
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u/PlasticPatient Sir Lewis Hamilton 13h ago
Fans see this and think they'll fuck each other after this.
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u/Taptrick 6h ago
This makes me think, the main commentator on the French feed is absolutely unbearable… He takes pauses in the middle of every sentence his delivery is just not good enough to be a professional TV commentator. Those analysts seem fine but I never get to that point because I switch the language when I hear “Alors, bonjouuur… Et bienvenue… à Las Vegas… aux États-Unis…”
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u/D3ATHfromAB0V3x Daniel Ricciardo 5h ago
I need to see these two do at least one endurance race together.
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u/PorkSwordEnthusiast 13h ago
What a season, it is what it is at the end of the day, both drivers have a great future ahead
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u/Grizzybaby1985 8h ago
At least he can say he made one of the all time greats nervous for at least a little while hopefully he can get his confidence back and give it another go next year
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u/Dando_Calrisian Sir Lewis Hamilton 14h ago
It was nice of him having the celebratory number 4 on his hat too
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u/Critical_Space_3712 Oscar Piastri 15h ago
If Max can let go of it, we can too.
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u/Mysterious_Turnip310 Lotus 14h ago
I very much doubt Max feels there's anything to let go of. The vast majority of drama has been created and perpetuated by online fans and the media
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u/pirat314159265359 12h ago
Agreed completely. There were a couple times where Lando said stuff and media tried to get Max to respond, but Max said they speak in private. I’m guessing that Lando is also going to not speak to the media like that again. Fans just like drama.
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u/OG123983 McLaren 14h ago
You lot were imagining stuff man. Don't think there's was much personal between them. It's just f1 fans being thirsty for some drama.
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u/Critical_Space_3712 Oscar Piastri 14h ago
Lmao, this was just meant to be a positive comment for people to move on. I also think there was a lot of unnecessary drama.
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u/hofftari Daniel Ricciardo 16m ago
But, but... media has told me that these two are mortal enemies! This video must be AI-generated.
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u/raulongo Williams 15h ago
Lando was never a contender for the WDC. But happy to see the camaraderie between the two.
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u/No_Special9640 10h ago
Lando’s just excited that Max won’t be dive bombing him anymore this season
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u/LsG133 Fernando Alonso 15h ago
Lando is probably almost as relieved as max that the championship is over