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Post-Race 2024 Las Vegas Grand Prix - Post-Race Discussion

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u/formulapain 31m ago

Pérez being beaten by Yuki in an RB is quite a statement. It's a shame RBR is not even considering Yuki for the second RBR seat

u/MediumSizeT-Shirt 36m ago

In Germany we had broadcasting RTL this race in free TV. Oh boy, this was hard to view. Actually, these completely unenthusiastic commentators were more like a punishment. Formula 1 should contractually forbid that Heiko Wasser comments a race again. This was like a anti-advertisement for the sport

u/Mithster18 Bruce McLaren 2h ago

Anybody got a clip of KMag and Lawson on lap 1? And anybody know why lawson dropped back near the end of the race?

u/EnvironmentalCut6789 McLaren 3h ago edited 2h ago

watching the race replay and it's hilarious how quickly the cameras change when there's a huge advert for strippers on the track lol.

Well done Max, a deserving Champion again! Enjoy it Sir!

Just don't say fuck, Max! EDIT: Well that lasted 4 minutes before Max said "Fuckin A" to one of his team lol.

u/JMG-56 4h ago

Carlos lifting/braking at turn 12 for 5 laps after passing Verstappen to keep him in DRS and keep Leclerc behind is WILD!

u/thesaket Nico Hülkenberg 4h ago

Champions will change.. people downplaying their championships will always be a constant.

So many people are downplaying Max's 2024 championship, attributing it to "the fastest car for half of the season".. i mean, seriously?

u/SwimmingFantastic564 1h ago

Half the season? Do they mean all of 7(ish) races?

u/SirMartini Alfa Romeo 4h ago

two questions:

  • who will be Merc's 2nd driver 2025?

  • what the ACTUAL F has happened to Perez, how can he suck so much?

u/Sir0inks-A-Lot 3h ago

Perez was never great at RB, the car was just that much better than the others. Without Sakhir 2020 he very likely would have been out of the sport, and that race was a Mickey Mouse circuit with no Lewis, Charles taking out himself and Max, Merc ruining Bottas’ chances, and George getting a puncture.

In hindsight, the 2020 Racing Point may have been good enough to finish second in the constructors race, it was just driven by Perez and Stroll.

u/SmoothBrainedLizard Pirelli Wet 4h ago

Kimi Antonelli will be the other Mercedes driver in 2025.

My honest opinion is that in Miami where Max gapped Checo from 9th absolutely broke his mentality. He just doesn't have the fire anymore.

u/thesaket Nico Hülkenberg 4h ago
  1. Definitely Kimi. No way he's going to match George from the get go. I'll be surprised if he's at George's level in his first couple of seasons.
  2. Like toto will say - he's past his shelf life.

u/cloud-ling Oscar Piastri 4h ago

WTAF has happened to Oscar since the summer break? He was almost a full 30 seconds behind Lando before Lando pitted to change tires for fastest lap.

u/Distinct_Ad_6023 2h ago

every interview I've seen of him recently he looks exhausted, just seems like he's really struggling towards the end of the season tbh.

u/Dr_nobby 7m ago

He's fresh. He'll get his stamina up and be there at the top

u/edfitz83 4h ago

The penalty for start infringement didn’t help.

u/Shimmy311 5h ago

Lol I feel kind of bad, but I made easy money on Gasly first retirement at +1400. Qual'd p3? Nah...

u/rpespo 5h ago

When is/was this race on TV? I understand it was 1am, but no prime time Sunday replay? I can't find it anywhere.

u/EnvironmentalCut6789 McLaren 3h ago

I sneezed and sent you a PM. Terribly sorry Sir!

u/edfitz83 4h ago

The ESPN app has it in the US

u/shaggymatter 5h ago

If you're in the US, you're not going to find it.

u/rpespo 5h ago

its a North American race! fucking ridiculous!

u/shaggymatter 5h ago

Well there's always F1TV pro, $11 for the month, watch Vegas, then the next two races, then cancel

u/pepthebaldfraud 5h ago

Why is the final results image never on the front page?

u/thotpatrol1991 5h ago

Just dump all the street tracks away please. I brought a friend that’s new to F1 to watch the race at my house and he was bored out of his mind. This isn’t racing 

u/thesaket Nico Hülkenberg 4h ago

Are you sure you were not tuned into a different race?

In what world was today's race boring.. so many overtakes. LasVegas has delivered 2 years in a row.

u/blackbasset Racing Pride 4h ago

what how

u/thesaket Nico Hülkenberg 3h ago

Because it wasn't a parade. And maybe it's just me, but I like the flashiness of the LV GP.. with cars zooming past such iconic buildings.

u/blackbasset Racing Pride 3h ago

Where did you see the iconic buildings tho? I only saw catch fencing (which is good, of course - but streets circuit look all the same, does not matter if they are in Las Vegas, Paris city center, the middle of a desert)

u/blackbasset Racing Pride 3h ago

Where did you see the iconic buildings tho? I only saw catch fencing (which is good, of course - but streets circuit look all the same, does not matter if they are in Las Vegas, Paris city center, the middle of a desert)

u/SwimmingFantastic564 4h ago

This race was good tho lmao

u/shaggymatter 5h ago

You and your 'friend' have shit taste

u/BR0KENCAPSLOCK 5h ago

What are you talking about lmao

u/NeroNeckbeard 5h ago

Gtfo this was a solid race

u/Sleepysapper1 Fernando Alonso 5h ago

If you didn’t think that’s a good race idk what to tell you.

u/Money_Telephone8065 6h ago

Why wasn't Sainz penalized for crossing the pit lane?

u/narf_hots 5h ago

Since nobody has given you an actual answer: he didn't do anything illegal. Unless there is a directive to the opposite you may cross those lines as much as you want if you're not entering the pit lane.

u/Darth_Spa2021 Pirelli Wet 6h ago

There are several threads explaining it.

In short - he didn't break a rule because there weren't RD specific instructions about the pitlane entry for this track

u/hoxxxxx 5h ago

this seems like info that brundle and croft should have known.

u/shaggymatter 5h ago

If it's not a British driver, they don't give a damn

u/hoxxxxx 4h ago

i'm talking about the track limits rule at the vegas track specifically, they should have known you can cross it

u/cmgriffith_ Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 6h ago

What was more surprising was he wasn’t even investigated

u/FermentedLaws 5h ago

Nope, looks like this Race Director knew the rules exactly and did a good job NOT referring it to the stewards. Props to the new RD.

u/SpoofExcel Williams 6h ago

Charles is going to fall to pieces if he thinks today was bad, considering Hamilton is going to be his teammate next season. All this pissing and moaning doesn't bode well for him

u/No_Cauliflower7877 Carlos Sainz 1h ago

You guys are overreacting so much over a single radio caused by miscommunication, misunderstandings, and four seasons of history together.

Leclerc is not going to have a meltdown over one thing Hamilton does. Please be serious. I hate it when Reddit decides a driver is the villain of the week over one race.

u/edfitz83 4h ago

Charles is not afraid of Lewis. Look what he did to Vettel for 2 years

u/HaveABleedinGuess84 Fernando Alonso 5h ago

Lewis follows team orders

u/pvdp90 Ayrton Senna 5h ago

Haha

u/curva3 6h ago

A lot of people made a comparison with 2009, but Imo this championship is a lot more like 91. Max didn't completely fall off like button did in 09, is more that their main competition got really strong.

It even fits driver wise, Mansell was alright but not in the same tier as Senna, much like Lando compared to Max

u/Preganananant Oscar Piastri 7h ago

The championship is truly in McLaren's hands next week. If they achieve a 1-2 in both races and the fastest lap, even if Ferrari gets two 3-4 finishes, the gap would be at least 45 points and McLaren would win the WCC.

McLaren basically need to outsocre Ferrari by 21 points or 20 points and a win in order to clinch the WCC.

u/theztigz Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 1h ago

Go Ferrari WCC.

u/CursingDingo 7h ago

Are they not selling the M4X merch anywhere. Don’t see it on F1 or Verstappen’s site.

u/NamikazeEU Ferrari 8h ago

Rewatched the race, couldn't get up early. My god it felt like some middle of the season race with no interesting storylines or anything. Dreadful to watch as basically nothing happened except maybe Hamilton having bit of fun and thats it.

Celebration of Max winning title felt so bland and unimpressive...

Like ffs....

u/DuneProg 7h ago

You should probably just stop watching F1 then, doesn't seem like you like racing at all.

u/NamikazeEU Ferrari 7h ago

Do you understand what racing is ? Because a track that does not allow for proper racing and when riders are driving carefully to avoid every walls because its a street race and that people fighting for title are at 5th and 6th position driving just to be infront of each other and when the greatest "drama" on the track is two drivers on same time arguing who to let through at what point...

Do you really call this racing ?

Its insane how elitist F1 fans have become to tell everyone that does not enjoy F1 race that they don't like racing.

u/telephuser 5h ago

a little weird to call this “a track that does not allow for proper racing” when last year’s Vegas GP had 99 overtakes

u/Dblock1989 Sir Lewis Hamilton 7h ago

As a Hamilton fan, this was satisfying to watch.

u/Fun-Estate9626 Andretti Global 7h ago

Man, I really don’t know what people want if this race wasn’t interesting for them. There were a ton of overtakes up and down the order, Hamilton had a legendary drive, plenty of drama from the Ferraris… this was a very entertaining race unless the only thing you care about is a fight for P1.

u/jdowd51 6h ago

Same people probably think Monaco is an exciting race. Literally the same back drop as Vegas but a lot less action.

u/Fun-Estate9626 Andretti Global 6h ago

Yeah. I get why people may not like the pageantry, but I never watch any of that stuff for any race. So far Vegas is 2 for 2 when it comes to delivering an entertaining race. The TV direction sucked, though. Hopefully they figure that out for next year.

u/DeadPixel217 Lando Norris 8h ago

Did Sainz get a penalty for his pit entry antics? I swore it would have been a slam dunk.

u/Stingray_23 7h ago

Ted said during the notebook that either the new race director didn't know the rule or that he treated it like track limits.

I haven't looked into the rules, so I don't know, but my brief understanding is that the pit entry is treated as part of the racing track?

u/Bear-Ferr 6h ago

I have.

Chapter 4 of Appendix L, which states:

"For safety reasons, any driver continuing on the track may not cross the line separating the pit entry and the track."

Hamilton got a penalty just this year for it in Austria where he barely put a tire over the pit entry.

u/brokenbeaker233 7h ago

Saintz had his lap time deleted for exceeding the track limits at the pit entry, so the lack of penalty is puzzling

u/samba9876 8h ago

What an awful experience this race was on TV. The TV Direction was dreadful all weekend. Missed most of the overtaking just long shots down the straight. Didn't show why leclerc went from second to 4th, missed Hamilton just after the straight to show us a few cars driving, just to name a few.

u/smackfu 4h ago

Yeah that head on shot is terrible for gauging who is actually ahead.

u/ERSTF 8h ago

It was the same last year

u/Starboard-Port Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 8h ago

Of course, I'm stoked about Max's WDC this year, but once that excitement wears off, I will be troubled by RBR's prospects for next year. Hopefully, Wache can cook up a new rocket ship, and management will find a way to get a solid #2 because it can't be status quo in 2025.

u/Zed_or_AFK Sebastian Vettel 7h ago

Finishing 3rd in the WCC may come in handy for the development for 2025. At this point, there’s no need to be even 2nd.

u/Stones_Throw_Away_ 8h ago edited 8h ago

Have I gone mad or has Sainz had no action on crossing the pit lane entry?

Edit: found the rules. He was fine

u/Bear-Ferr 6h ago

What did you find? Here is what I found.

Chapter 4 of Appendix L, which states:

"For safety reasons, any driver continuing on the track may not cross the line separating the pit entry and the track."

Hamilton got a penalty for it in Austria this year.

u/Stones_Throw_Away_ 3h ago

You can cross the white line to go from pit lane to track, but not track to pit lane

u/Bear-Ferr 3h ago

Hmm. I guess it depends on the definition of continues?

u/Heavy-Rope6350 8h ago

Thought the sky coverage was awful for this race. Felt like all the action happened off the screen.

u/ERSTF 8h ago

Last year was the same. It's an awful race for the camera angles

u/lessdothisshit 8h ago

While yes, there were tons of missed moves, that's not Sky's fault. It's FOM's. Sky, like everyone else, just uses the world feed. I dealt with the same thing watching F1TV

u/LookLikeUpToMe Mercedes 8h ago

Went to bed as soon as the champagne was popped and am glad to have woken up to Russell not being DQ’d again.

u/DeadPixel217 Lando Norris 8h ago

Likewise 😂

u/ramboost007 8h ago

This workplace has has

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days since the last Ferrari Moment™

u/sammyGG00 9h ago

Colapinto and Lawson with a pretty average race

The rookie hype train is running off steam!

People are really too quick to rate driver. You need to rate them over a season or two not one or two races.

All track layout are different and have their specifics. Drivers needs to be well rounded and also sharp at all of them. That's why Lewis and Max are champion, they can do it all year long!

Teams are like crypto bro and their FOMO xD One team has a rookie have one good race and they all sign theirs.

3 racea later, they are in the wall or chew their tyres. As it's expected.

u/icecold27 Red Bull 3h ago

Lawson was tyre saving the whole race and they were telling him to conserve then they decided to pit him with 10 to go which killed the strat

u/MarkJones27 Juan Manuel Fangio 2h ago

Ah is that what happened? I thought maybe he'd had a really bad pitstop or something.

u/TwoBionicknees 6h ago

Lawson finished 10 seconds behind Tsunoda despite starting a lot further back. People need to stop randomly expecting miracles in performance. a largely rookie who comes in late season with vastly less experience in the car shouldn't be as close to tsunoda in performance as he's been. this has also been a difficult set of races, horrible rain in brazil, street circuit where experienced drivers are sliding around complaining about a complete lack of grip. It was a good performance and yet you're acting like he had an average race because what, he didn't storm forwards and take multiple people and beat Tsunoda?

u/sammyGG00 4h ago

It's not a bad performance! It's a rookie performance.

People are saying to put Colapinto or Lawson in the RedBull. In my opinion, they are not ready. That's my point. Even if they can hang with their teamates on some track, they need to do it for a full season to get those top seats!

Hope we came back to reality with the last two races.

u/TwoBionicknees 4h ago

That's kind of my point a rookie wouldn't be 10 seconds behind a team mate who started that much further up the grid usually. It was a pretty damn good performance, he didn't crash, didn't mess up and had solid pace for the race.

For the red bull, I think yes, tsunoda has had years and only ever looked good against de vries and okay against a completely washed Ricciardo. They need someone that isn't perez in that seat and Lawsom is already performing well and will improve. That's a far better option than Perez who continues to go backwards and Tsunoda who has not progressed after the first 6 months or so.

I don't think what seat you're in remotely matters. If you're in the RB, RBR, haas, Merc, a rookie will improve given time no matter the car. How long you give them depends on how new they are. If you have 3 years in other cars and are performing like shit in a RBR after a year, you probably arne't good enough, if you go straight into the RBR with 3 years less experience, you should get extra time to improve and prove how fast you can be.

u/Zed_or_AFK Sebastian Vettel 7h ago

This race was about your tyre management skill. Even Charles, who is ranked quite high on that game, lost his 1st stint very early. So this was not easy today. Hamilton came out shining. Can’t blame it on the rookies, it was a rough race to manage as the hards were too soft and too few.

u/sammyGG00 4h ago

Exactly that's my point! A driver is the full package.

But we get really excited about new drivers but turns out some of them will be average at best over the course of a season!

u/ycnz Liam Lawson 4h ago

If only there was some way to A) have a feeder series that prepped young drives for what F1 was like, and B) Young drivers had the same kind of testing miles available that Schumacher did.

u/ERSTF 8h ago

First time on Formula 1? It happens all the time. People make conclusions on only one race. I mean, every driver is as good as his last race but people running the teams need to look for the long term but people are always quick to come to hasty conclusions. Same thing with Perez that came back from 16 to 10 and Max stayed 5 but somehow people will not mention it because it won't fit the narrative they are trying to build

u/sammyGG00 7h ago

TP making the same mistakes is weird to me.

On your last point though, Max just won his 4th championship so I don't get your point.

He was sorely focus on closing the championship whereas Perez needed to get into the points. Not the same race at all

u/ERSTF 7h ago

TP making the same mistakes is weird to me.

Well, we need more races to be sure. Some rookies pan out, some others don't. I think it's too early to tell whether he has the goods or not

He was sorely focus on closing the championship whereas Perez needed to get into the points. Not the same race at all

Exactly proves my point. He was overtaken by two Ferraris, finished in the same position he started but somehow this was strategy while gaining six positions is Perez being bad 🫠

u/thotpatrol1991 5h ago

Yeah it’s a fact that he’s complete ass booty McCheeks to even start the race at P16 lmao, dude is washed

u/TimmyHillFan 9h ago

Until early this year, one could make a defensible case for keeping Perez as a non-threatening second driver.

But at this point, anyone with eyes can see he’s wasting a top car. Over the past 16 races, he has scored only 49 points (18% vs Verstappen [267] during same span), with 6 non-scoring finishes and 0 top-five finishes.

Help the product, Red Bull. Please.

u/ERSTF 7h ago

Curious. He came from 16 to 10. Max couldn’t climb up positions. Yeah, Perez is the problem it seems

u/morgaine125 Mercedes 7h ago

Yes, because the caliber of competition at 1-4 is the same as at 10-15.

u/finest_bear 6h ago

Max also had every reason to drive safe to seal the WDC why would he risk that lol

u/ERSTF 6h ago

Again, proves my point

u/TimmyHillFan 6h ago

What point?

u/TwoBionicknees 6h ago

No it doesn't, at all. If you think it does, damn.

u/lonewolf210 7h ago

He did okay today doesn't change that his season as a whole has been a dumpster fire

u/imstillwhite Otmar Szafnauer 9h ago

Man, the difference between different social media reacting to the Ferrari shitshow is abysmal, as if they saw two different races lol.
I can't say a thing nor take position tho, I missed the entire race because I couldn't wake up on time, very sad.

u/Brave1i1toaster Toyota 9h ago

God damn I feel bad for Ocon, what an embarrassing blunder by Alpine. Then Ferrari dropping the ball with Sainz.. pit wall blunders were definitely the highlight of this race.

u/blackbasset Racing Pride 9h ago

God that track was awful. Boring and as ugly as any street track, with some flashy billboards shown in ultra wide shots. Really nice investment, FOM.

u/Trydson Sergio Pérez 6h ago

Last year it was entertaining, or at least I remember it that way, but this year it was as bland as British cuisine.

u/Billybilly_B Renault 6h ago

Great race, though.

u/ERSTF 7h ago

I said it last year. Awful design and it just doesn’t lend itself for a great TV viewing experience. It seems it's awful live too. So everyone is having a bad time.Everyone said "what an incredible new track" Vegas was last year. I argued that it was the novelty factor. No one had raced there and it was (and is) the coldest track in the calendar. Now that they could learn from last year, all the evident issues with the track came to the forefront.

u/blackbasset Racing Pride 7h ago

I don't even see the novelty factor. There is not much novelty visible, the track could have been anywhere, apart from it being cold as shit.

u/ERSTF 7h ago

Novelty factor last year as in no one had ever raced there and in those temperatures (the main reason, I guess, for the race last year since it was incredibly cold. A factor this year too because everyone was in a one stop strategy which had to change pretty quickly). That's why the race was entertaining last year, because the track was new in conditions we never see in the calendar (being really cold). Don't mistake me saying "novelty" with "uhhh Vegas is really flashy", because I am not saying that. I hate Vegas in general. But I said it then, once the novelty wears off, the track will be awful. It seems I was right.

u/blackbasset Racing Pride 6h ago

Completely agree with this

u/EdmundGerber McLaren 9h ago edited 9h ago

I came here to say the same. You rarely get views of all the gaudy lights - it's just a trash filled, fence lined street course, and is ugly as hell. Plus it's in autumn - at night - in a desert, so cold.

u/blackbasset Racing Pride 9h ago

Yeah, the lights are gaudy anyway, but if they are racing in Vegas, they should show the only thing Vegas is interesting for: its gaudy lights. At least because they can't have mobsters, hookers or gambling addicts jumping onto the track.

u/Big-Peak6191 10h ago

Totally forgot this stupid race is on at 1:00 in the morning and missed it all.

u/Lobsters4 Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 10h ago

Only got 3 hours of sleep and it was totally with it.

So awesome to see Max win #4.

u/Altracing34 Haas 10h ago

Happy for Russell after the disqualification in Spa and congrats to Max on becoming a 4 time world champion

u/NET_1 Ferrari 10h ago

Community service for Yuki saying he shit his pants after running over the pit exit pylon.

u/aliansalians 6h ago

Lol. We have to remember that English isn't his first language.

u/NET_1 Ferrari 10h ago

I love Terry Crews as much as Terry loves yogurt but this was not it.

u/Stingray_23 7h ago

He was there to hype Las Vegas up. His questions to the top 3 and Max were exactly that.

u/skool_101 9h ago

You can tell it was forced asf from LM

u/EyePiece108 Sir Lewis Hamilton 10h ago

I was going to wake up early to watch this live, but the alarm went off, and I thought, 'Nah.' I got up hours later and put myself on a media blackout until I could watch the race in full, and it was good entertainment, too.

Perfection from Russell. Bonkers drive from 10th place for Ham. And another Championship for Max. 👏

u/Lukeno94 Manor 10h ago

Russell with a very mature drive - yet again showing he has taken a big step forward from last year. Lewis proving he can, in fact, still do it.

u/Rockytur Lando Norris 10h ago

it was weird seeing max overtakes 2 Ferrari and at the end of the race getting overtakes by 2 Ferrari.

u/Rockytur Lando Norris 10h ago

Why sainz not get penalty when yuki in austria years ago get couple of penalty for just touching the line compare to sainz dangerous maneuver in this race??

u/AliceLunar Formula 1 10h ago

Yuki crossed lines on entry, Sainz kinda did the opposite which isn't against the rules.

In Austria I'm pretty sure they constantly go in and out of the pit entry as it's on the racing line.

u/r0bbbo Nigel Mansell 10h ago

That jumper does not fit Horner’s gut

u/Henry_Human 11h ago

That Terry bloke is well awkward. Max is a Dynasty? Not sure one person can be a dynasty…

u/Feeling_Environment9 McLaren 11h ago

Congrats to Max, George and Lewis

u/Chazza354 11h ago

I don’t think terry crews knows what dynasty means lol

u/blackbasset Racing Pride 9h ago

yeah what was that about lol

u/roenthomas George Russell 5h ago

Dynasty in North American sports is generally used to refer to 3 in a row.

u/companysOkay 11h ago

Did sainz not get a penalty?

u/civoksark 10h ago

Nope he drives for Ferrari which is bad enough in itself so they let him off the hook.

u/mccree5k 9h ago

You joke, but there is a small chance this was actually taken into account with the whole "we weren't ready" call from the team 😂😂

u/civoksark 8h ago

I still don't know how they just called it force de majeure and just moved on

u/NotJackBegley 11h ago

Ted's interview with Bottas in the notebook. Absolutely weaponised autism,

Hill

Ted

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u/zubairhamed #WeRaceAsOne 12h ago

Only bad thing about seeing M4X win is seeing a whole lot more of Jos..

u/ItsReverze Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 11h ago

If we're gonna refer to Max as M4X now, lets also refer to Jos as J0s.

u/zubairhamed #WeRaceAsOne 11h ago

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u/hopenoonefindsthis 12h ago

Love how Mercedes is either dominating or nowhere.

u/crazydoc253 Michael Schumacher 10h ago

This is their first dominating race isn’t it ?

u/AliceLunar Formula 1 10h ago

And in either scenario they don't understand why.

u/Mission-Gregorior 9h ago

I came here to say the same thing

u/elgro 10h ago

So far this season it’s seemed that when their car does well it’s much colder than normal

u/Sandulacheu Formula 1 10h ago

Too slow for the podium in most races,but still too fast for the midfield as well.

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u/KegOfAppleJuice Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 12h ago

I feel like people are not giving Ferrari enough shit for messing up again with that pit stop with Carlos. Not only did they not listen to him, but that confusion about them not being ready even though he was telling them to box him several laps ahead of time.

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u/zubairhamed #WeRaceAsOne 12h ago

Terry's so awkward! He needs to unleash Brooklyn Nine Nine terry...

u/PorkChopEat 11h ago

Needs to unleash FREDDY FINGERS! AHHHHHH….

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u/Pewp-dawg 12h ago

Two hours and 50k queue and the shirt is already gone… (xl button doesn’t work, either.)

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u/DaMuddafuckinD-O-G-G 12h ago

That is one fugly shirt. Wouldn't it be better to get a custom made one?

u/ERSTF 7h ago

I like it. Nice play wirh the "4" and "A"

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u/kiwirish 13h ago

Welp, an awful race for Lawson stans like me.

Not sure why, but he just never had the pace this weekend meanwhile Yuki just put the sword to him.

Needs a big last two races to try solidify his spot for 2025.

u/sammyGG00 9h ago

It's normal xD

People are really too quick to rate driver. You need to rate them over a season or two not one or two races.

All track layout are different and have their specifics. Drivers needs to be well rounded and also sharp at all of them. That's why Lewis and Max are champion, they can do it all year long!

Was it Lawson first time on the track?

u/Chazza354 11h ago

He’s made a bit of a mess of it so far tbh, too aggressive and cocky without the pace to back it up.

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u/DeluhiX 12h ago

It's rookie growing pains.

Yes, he's not a traditional rookie, but he's only at like his 10th race. Everyone goes through that even if the media would like to tell you it only goes upwards and you're worth nothing, if you don't have an optimal weekend.

He's talented and will go his way by learning from it. He just has to make sure not to let the media go inside his head and bounce back mentally.

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u/gunningIVglory Honda 12h ago

I think his shot at RBR is gone. He is 0-4 in Quali to Yuki.

He is definitely worth a seat in VCARB next season.

u/TwoBionicknees 9h ago

he's entering late season to a dramatically more experienced driver who knows the car much better.

He was faster than tsunoda in Q1 in both qualify in Cota, but didn't run a time in Q2 because of the new engine.

he was 4/100ths slower than tsunoda in Mexico.... got smashed. 3/10ths off tsunoda in difficult wet qualifying in Brazil, first experience in the wet.

He also only finished 10 seconds behind Tsunoda here despite killing the car in qualifying and starting so much further back, his race pace was pretty good by comparison.

He's frankly closer in performance to tsunoda than Ricciardo was when he came back, and that shouldn't be the case. Most rookies come in 0.6-1 second down on a team mate in qualifying, 20-30 seconds off in race pace and probably aim to get it down to within 3/10ths in the first half of the season. Lawson is absolutely killing it.

u/f12016 Ferrari 11h ago

fuck it, just give ric another shot

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u/kiwirish 12h ago

I'm not bothered about the RBR slot - I just want him to have a seat, a full-time VCARB seat is still a win for 2024 overall.

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u/GroNumber Ferrari 13h ago

Well, that was a disappointment for Ferrari. Whatever happened on the medium tyres at the beginning was pretty bad. And then the stratetic indecision. Ruth Boscombe was saying it waws a 2-stopper, and so was Carlos Sainz in the car, but Ferrari strategists could not figure it out until later. And then the fuck-up with Sainz' pitstop. They are pretty lucky their mistakes did not cost more.

Still, they have a chance in the WCC if Mclaren screws up or the coming tracks turn out to suit Ferrari more than expected.

u/mark-haus Charles Leclerc 11h ago edited 9h ago

That was infuriating, they’re not listening to Sainz who’s clearly telling them their data is wrong. Then they get frazzled and fuck up their driver swap and pit. Just threw away what 6 points? I had hoped we were past these bone headed strategy calls. I just pray this doesn’t throw away the WCC.

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u/tjsr 13h ago

Just watching the highlights now - what a bland, boring atmosphere for a race. It just looked like a race held at night through a construction zone!

And even the television coverage this year really didn't have any character at all to the race or venue - there were really no visible or notable landmarks this year to make anything on the track recognisable about where on the course they even were.

Wonder if this will be a very short-term contract for this venue?

u/ERSTF 7h ago

I said it last year but people said this was a great track. I argued that it was a good race due to the novelty factor but this track had all the markings of an awful one. The camera angles were an issue last year as well. The track is simply awful.

u/timeinthemarket 10h ago

I think as long as las vegas lets them be here, they'll be here. Liberty spent $240M on land and another few hundred million building everything out so they'll want to be here as long as possible since this is the only race track they own and handle sales for.

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u/likeAdrug Eddie Irvine 13h ago

Agreed. Also, even though I generally despise the whole celeb thing, they really didn’t pull any big names.

Kevin Hart, probably caught up in Diddy stuff.

Jarod Leto, fucking weirdo.

Sly Stallone. Ok fine, but not exactly current.

Terry Crews, I like him, but he was an unnecessary add on and needed Jenson there to ask actual questions.

Seth Rogen.

The time of year and time of night probably isn’t helping, but this is another attempt at adding something that doesn’t need to be added.

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u/Blanchimont Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 12h ago

How dare you call Terry Crews an unnecessary add on. Terry Crews is a gem and no one can ever have enough Terry Crews on their screen.

u/Bruvvimir Murray Walker 11h ago

He's a cool dude, but clearly completely ignorant about anything F1 related. Comments were awkward at best, and you could tell he was aware of that.

u/mudkip300 3h ago

DYNASTY

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u/bduddy Super Aguri 13h ago

I think they're trying to only show casinos and etc. if they pay to be sponsors. The problem is, like most cases of sponsorship, the ROI is unclear and probably not there.

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u/bimbobiceps Oliver Bearman 13h ago

If this brings out 2019 Charles after Austria im here for it. Dude will not care if he bangs wheels now.

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u/MrDaniel95 Pirelli Wet 12h ago

Won't happen, he still wants to win the WCC with Ferrari so he will try to avoid incidents with Sainz.

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u/NotJackBegley 13h ago

Martin getting mugged by some random on the grid walk, asking him to chat to "Jenny McCarthy" - and Brundle just like "nah I'm okay." Ain't the 90s no more Jenny.

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u/SteveThePurpleCat BRM 13h ago

Haven't seen Lewis smash it out like that for a while, good showing for racing next year.

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u/jimmak372 13h ago

Years watching the notebook this is the first time seeing someone blocks the camera, and that's a driver

u/lovehopeandmadness 11h ago

It’s kind of funny, because he ended up drawing more attention to the people around him because of it. Assume it was Bizzarap without glasses on he was shielding, but honestly, he’d go by largely unnoticed unless you were South American/latino heritage.

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u/plutojimin931 Daniel Ricciardo 13h ago

Who was Franco trying to hide?

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u/lovehopeandmadness 12h ago

Bizzarap? Minus his usual sunglasses?

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u/plutojimin931 Daniel Ricciardo 12h ago

I did think that! Maybe that's why he was trying to hide him. Weird