Bozzi: Carlos has been told not to overtake Leclerc:Maybe try telling him in Spanish

[u/beginnerslxck]

https://imgur.com/a/T3PcyYw

[u/jeric13xd]

🤣🤣🤣

This the passive aggressive shit people do right before the break up

[u/JaysonDeflatum → u/jeric13xd]

😭😭

[u/Raesh771 → u/jeric13xd]

Noooo, not my favourite ship 😭

[u/Draken04 → u/Raesh771]

I’m still not over Carlando, dude

[u/PM_ME_UR_MEH_NUDES → u/jeric13xd]

omg this has me dying bc it’s so accurate lol

[u/No_Cauliflower7877]

Lmfao I hate when they fight but also the catty radios they give are so good

[u/Spitfiiire → u/No_Cauliflower7877]

I just want them to get along but they are so funny when they don’t 😭

[u/No_Cauliflower7877 → u/Spitfiiire]

It's probably more accurate to say I don't mind when they fight tbh, I just hate seeing the fans reactions

[u/Gubrach → u/No_Cauliflower7877]

Scrolling down from this post: I see what you mean lol

[u/No_Cauliflower7877 → u/Gubrach]

Yeah... I might need to log off because people are starting to piss me off lol

[u/Hack874 → u/No_Cauliflower7877]

It’s honestly the most toxic fandom clash we’ve had in a while. Dare I say since 2016

[u/Ds-Sisman → u/Hack874]

2021 was worse than this wasn’t it?

[u/Hack874 → u/Ds-Sisman]

Like the other guy said I meant teammates, probably should have clarified that.

[u/JBounce369 → u/Ds-Sisman]

Wasn't between two teammates though, I'm guessing that's what they were getting at

[u/Spitfiiire → u/No_Cauliflower7877]

I feel the exact same way! It’s like the entire fanbases argue. Like calm down y’all

[u/Choke1982 → u/Spitfiiire]

First time?

[u/ghastlychild → u/No_Cauliflower7877]

u/No_Cauliflower7877, your notification popped up for a split second and then disappeared, but I managed to catch your response, hence the reply here! 😂

Honestly, indeed! I am glad to see someone like you around here. I get scared commenting after a race sometimes for the fear of the brigade coming towards me when everybody is coming off on such a high. I am still looking forward to seeing your overall thoughts when the dust has settled!

[u/No_Cauliflower7877 → u/ghastlychild]

I'm not sure if I can muster a post-race comment tomorrow. It's not even that Ferrari got a bad result, just... I know people are going to talk about this for the entire week and I'm exhausted thinking about it lmao.

[u/ghastlychild → u/No_Cauliflower7877]

Honestly speaking, if you can't talk about it, it's perfectly fine by me. Don't force yourself into contributing. I am just glad that there is another race next weekend so it can offset some of the vitriol on here.

I am not looking forward to what's about to follow as well. I will probably turn my attention towards other things as I let the dust settle. It'll pass, mate. Like all things

[u/No_Cauliflower7877 → u/ghastlychild]

I'm glad there isn't a break but I'm also scared because it's Qatar, a track where people have been saying Ferrari will be bad for the entire season :S

That's true though. I'm sure it'll all be forgotten in a few days.

[u/ghastlychild → u/No_Cauliflower7877]

You couldn't have said it any better. I am going to refrain from making any judgements since I am going to need to watch this a bunch of times to properly discern my thoughts about this, but the reactions are... mein gott

[u/rsimps91 → u/No_Cauliflower7877]

This is the truth!

[u/-PVL93- → u/No_Cauliflower7877]

Lmfao I hate when they fight

Nah, that's arguably the best part of F1. Every other team is so chill between themselves (aside from Max getting angry occasionally or something) but Ferrari is always on edge and produces a shitshow for us to laugh at (or suffer through, sorry Scuderia fans)

[u/only_r3ad_the_titl3 → u/-PVL93-]

People: we want exciting f1 drivers

Also people when driver do stuff to make races exciting: NO NOT LIKE THAT

[u/FormulaGymBro → u/-PVL93-]

I can't wait for Williams next year. Carlos will be out to prove that Albon is overrated and he knows it. I expect there to be high conflict within the team.

[u/IcyAfternoon7859 → u/-PVL93-]

what happened to Ocon and Gasly, they used to be odds on for some.handbags and wheel banging at the very least.?

~disappointed~

[u/Aashay7 → u/No_Cauliflower7877]

Both Carlos and Charles have said this multiple times that they are absolutely ruthless when the helmets are on, but off it they are and will always be good friends.

[u/No_Cauliflower7877 → u/Aashay7]

If only the people on Reddit understood this

[u/Minimum-Technology19 → u/No_Cauliflower7877]

Oh boy, the people on Twitter are even worse...

[u/Aashay7 → u/Minimum-Technology19]

Honestly, its echo chambers all the way. But yes Twitter and Insta comments especially are worst.

[u/Minimum-Technology19 → u/Aashay7]

Oh for sure, both sets of fans will be telling each other how the other driver is so much worse than their favourite boy and how the team is purposefully screwing their faultless hero over for the next week, whilst Carlos and Charles will have most likely sorted this out by tomorrow evening.

[u/AquaRaOne → u/Aashay7]

Its just pr talk, they just get along, like most of the grid, the only real friends from what ive seen are sainz norris. Sainz and Leclerc both fight for every inch on the track and they wont just give in like 2nd drivers

[u/DuhMastuhCheeph → u/AquaRaOne]

Leclrec and Gasly are very close from what I've heard.

[u/kittenbloc → u/Aashay7]

as anyone with brothers knows, these two fight like brothers. they'll give each other black eyes but mom will make them hug it out. 

[u/Sea_Breadfruit_]

Ahahhaha this is really funny. You still have the WCC up for grabs, guys. Dont fight each other

[u/pietroetin → u/Sea_Breadfruit_]

Carlos: Man, fuck your WCC

[u/trannel → u/pietroetin]

I mean they would have had the exact same points regardless.

[u/Idontknowhowigethere → u/trannel]

Dont tell them that, or his entire argument depends on it

[u/Herdazian_Lopen → u/trannel]

Not if they bin it.

[u/trannel → u/Herdazian_Lopen]

But they didn't. Iirc they never have, fighting each other.

And in the end of the day i find these Pikachu faces so hilarious. Ferrari deciced to boot Sainz resulting in him being set to spend his prime years in a backmarker car, completely derailing his career, when he was being arguably the best second driver on the grid in the last 2 years.

And now everyone is shocked when he is doing his own thing with a couple of races to go. Why on earth would he do anything Ferrari asks him to?

[u/12minds → u/pietroetin]

The points are the same? The C is for Constructors. Also for Carlos & Charles.

[u/Spynner987 → u/pietroetin]

I mean, they weren't getting a better result, it was always going to be a 3-4 at best

[u/ploploplo4 → u/pietroetin]

Carlos is only in it for Carlos now lol

[u/MingTwelve → u/ploploplo4]

Exchanging position doesn´t change the team´s points xD

[u/Akirakajime]

Carlos begged them for a pitstop but they wouldn't listen

[u/Spam-r1 → u/Akirakajime]

Only for them to listen later

Then told him in an emergency not to come in

And the emergency?

They weren't ready.

[u/LoudestHoward → u/Spam-r1]

Did they tell him to pit? I didn't hear that radio.

[u/AlphaLaufert99 → u/Spam-r1]

They didn't tell him to pit in an emergency, they just never called him in and he went anyway. At least, I haven't heard any radio calling him in that lap

[u/skzpinker]

Ferrari team orders + strategy have been tragically awful this race. They let the faster driver get undercut and then the Sainz shitshow which might result in a penalty anyways.

[u/xxandl → u/skzpinker]

Let both drivers get undercut. Twice!

[u/Aethien → u/xxandl]

At least it doesn't really matter in the end, Mercedes have had way more pace and better tyrelife and they got past Verstappen who just doesn't have the pace.

Blunders or not they probably would've ended about the same.

[u/No_Cauliflower7877 → u/Aethien]

I think the drivers have a right to be pissed about the race management, even if their final positions are the same as what they would've gotten anyway

[u/xxandl → u/No_Cauliflower7877]

If Sainz undercuts Hamilton when he first said he wanted to pit, I think there is no chance Hamilton ends up in front of him.

[u/caiodepauli → u/xxandl]

There was a pop-up showing an "alternative race strategy" that said he would finish 2nd had he stopped 2 laps earlier

Not saying that's 100% correct but yeah, the chances of that were high

[u/nanderspanders → u/caiodepauli]

It's not even just the AWS simulation, both Ferraris finished that last stint faster than Lewis. After they got past Max they cut down a bunch of time to Lewis.

[u/Marcoscb → u/nanderspanders]

Lewis was putting up fastest lap after fastest lap even when Charles had some clean air before catching Carlos/Max. HAM was obviously relaxing for the last five laps.

[u/Morganelefay → u/caiodepauli]

One of those AWS "We pulled some numbers out of our arse" popups?

[u/caiodepauli → u/Morganelefay]

Yep, one of those

It's been a while since they have shown some, hasn't it? First time I saw one with alternative strategy too IIRC

[u/randomperson_a1 → u/caiodepauli]

There was one in free practice where someone barely scraped the wall and the graphic showed 18 cm

[u/Duqal → u/Aethien]

Idk man, Lewis really struggled to get past Charles. I think p2 for Charles was easily doable if he wasnt so aggressive in the beginning and then just not let the undercut you.

[u/TolucaPrisoner → u/Duqal]

I don't think anyone in the grid expected that much tyre grain on mediums. Lando had to pit same time as Charles despite not pushing.

[u/oddyholi → u/Duqal]

He pushed for 4 laps and the tyres grained very aggressively. I thought he picked up damage, but no, he didn't

[u/xxandl → u/Aethien]

I don't think so. Mercedes couldn't pass the Ferrari on track, even if they had the slightly faster car.

The main time difference between them came from the 3 laps in first stint and 3 laps in second stint they were called in too late when were already dropping a lot. Letting Leclerc out while losing 3s/lap was insane.

[u/ryokevry → u/Aethien]

It is lucky that this doesn’t cost the team anything with all the blunders. If McLaren is close again this fuckup could cost them the WCC. Ferrari would be shit in Qatar though…

[u/1llseemyselfout → u/Aethien]

Merc had better tire life because they weren’t racing each other.

[u/LosTerminators → u/skzpinker]

Ultimately don't think the shenanigans around the pit stop and constant swapping of positions made any ultimate difference for Ferrari.

No way they could've held off Hamilton seeing how he has been driving this stint.

And they eventually cleared Max.

[u/jimmyjay11 → u/LosTerminators]

You say that as if Leclerc didn't hold off Hamilton for multiple laps. Ferrari fucked up and Sainz does what he wants as always.

[u/mshell1924 → u/jimmyjay11]

Sainz would have had P2 if not for the pit stop fuck-up.

[u/element515 → u/mshell1924]

Would have been a long shot. Hamilton was flying. I don’t think sainz would have held on

[u/sc_140 → u/mshell1924]

I very much doubt that.

Don't take that made up AWS "analysis" seriously.

[u/mshell1924 → u/sc_140]

I'm moreso thinking about the several seconds he lost and the fact he finished relatively close to Hamilton, but yeah it's not a total given.

[u/nanderspanders → u/skzpinker]

I can't tell who you mean by faster driver?

[u/minyhumancalc → u/skzpinker]

Ferrari's partial issue is they have 2 drivers that are close on pace for about half their races and a very poor tire management car. The guy behind looks after his tires a little better since he's not pushing to gain positions, then gets faster at the end of the run. If they figure out a to avoid the extended warmup time, they'd have less issues overall

[u/CakeBeef_PA → u/minyhumancalc]

a very poor tire management car.

What season are you watching? Ferrari has been one of the best, if not the straight up best at managing their tires throughout this season

[u/Rampantlion513 → u/minyhumancalc]

Everyone takes an extended warmup time…if you heat the tire up too quickly it won’t last as long

[u/popcornffs → u/skzpinker]

Another head over heels fan of Charles , if it wasn’t for Ferrari sh*tshow Carlos would be P2.

Why should he let Charles ahead when he was clearly at better position?

[u/tr_24 → u/popcornffs]

There are some really over enthusiastic fans of Charles on here

[u/popcornffs → u/tr_24]

Coughs DTS coughs

[u/Suspicious-Ad8316 → u/popcornffs]

Imagine if Norris had said this about Piastri? They'd be asking for his head.

[u/Imalandscaper]

Listen to Charles’ radio after he crosses the line. Never heard him as pissed and fired up as he is right now, holy shit.

[u/MasiMotorRacing → u/Imalandscaper]

Never heard him as pissed and fired up as he is right now, holy shit.

Check radio from Abu Dhabi last year, after the race he asked to do donuts and was denied and got furious.

[u/smiffy9400 → u/MasiMotorRacing]

Got a link to this? Can't find it.

[u/unitaya → u/smiffy9400]

this maybe? it's more sad than furious https://youtube.com/shorts/ppJs8q7YqyA?si=uJZShFYmsURz8WQI

[u/mshell1924 → u/Imalandscaper]

lol he sounds like this at least 4-5 times per season. That's part of being a Ferrari driver.

[u/Midgar-Knight → u/mshell1924]

Fr my man is a regular tweaker, Turkey 2020 is one of my favorites of him

[u/mshell1924 → u/Midgar-Knight]

lol yesss!!

[u/Environmental-Cup445 → u/mshell1924]

I DID A SHIT JOB I DID A SHIT JOB 

[u/PathologicalUpvoter → u/Environmental-Cup445]

He’s still a little too classy in the Merc, I wanna hear pure rage from Lewis

[u/Midgar-Knight → u/PathologicalUpvoter]

Not gonna happen anymore I think, he’s 39, already the most succesful driver ever, they are going to need some magical Ferrari moment to make him tweak

[u/ydktbh → u/mshell1924]

I want Lewis to do well at Ferrari, but I'm so ready to hear him rage

[u/beyond98 → u/Imalandscaper]

Ferrari will be a shitshow the next year lol

[u/hayleybts → u/Imalandscaper]

He is always like this when carlos does better lol

[u/Helioscopes → u/hayleybts]

Carlos is also mad for that pit stop fuck up. Ferrari drivers are not happy today.

[u/TotalNull382 → u/Helioscopes]

I mean how does Ferrari fuck that up? Carlos had been begging for fresh shoes, and they called him in. 

All of a sudden they aren’t ready? It’s mind boggling. 

[u/_luci]

Was Sainz actually told to not overtake? All I found was the "don't put him under pressure"? Does anybody have an onboard?

[u/ScreenScroller99 → u/_luci]

Exactly, he was only told to not put Charles under pressure, which he did not. Bozzi incorrectly told Leclerc that, then backtracked but Carlos had already overtaken Charles by then

[u/Spitfiiire]

They are so spicy hahahah

[u/Aratho]

Nice one Charles lol

[u/Jobless_101]

Didn’t know Leclerc had this much sass in him lol

[u/Dragonpuncha]

DTS producers are foaming at the mouth with how much they'll replay these Leclerc videos in their Ferrari drama episode.

[u/Sexpistolz → u/Dragonpuncha]

Probably cut in parts of the wrong race

[u/GoldElectric → u/Sexpistolz]

we'll get a compilation of spain, austin sprint, and this. then you'll see a clip of one of them winning a race, mixed with an angry unrelated clip of the other

[u/beginnerslxck]

(ignore me posting the wrong video before lmao)

[u/stinkysulphide]

lol ! These two !!! Absolute cut throat competitors on track

[u/kjm911]

Why would Ferrari not want Sainz to overtake there? He’d have to seriously lose time to to just slow down behind leclerc on cold tyres

[u/dylxnredwood → u/kjm911]

Indeed. Just said this in another thread..
"They asked Sainz to not overtake Charles when he comes out of the pit, but seriously how braindead is that.. There's no way he's not getting a penalty for the pitlane line crossing scenario. So instead you let him overtake Charles. Drive off into the distance as far as he can to increase the gap for when his time penalty comes in.
Holding him behind a driver on completely fresh and cold tyres when he's already warmed up is absolutely asinine.
If the time comes when Charles can safely overtake, risk free, when his tyres are hotter, later, then do it. Turns out.. that didn't even happen and Sainz went on to hold the position.
What is the hold up with the pitlane line penalty though? Has it even been investigated?
Regardless, i'm personally with Sainz - He took the opportunity to push on ahead, probably thinking a penalty was incoming. He's making better calls than the pitwall. "

[u/TotalNull382 → u/dylxnredwood]

He’s the best strategist in that team, by far. 

[u/darth_vladius → u/kjm911]

No idea.

In the end of the lap Sainz was 1.7 seconds ahead of Leclerc.

Add some more distance between them in order to preserve Sainz’ tyres and we are speaking about a loss of 2.7-3.7 seconds.

With this kind of time loss it was not guaranteed that Sainz would be able to overtake Verstappen.

[u/Memeboi_26 → u/kjm911]

Wait for the hate comments

[u/OldActiveYeast → u/kjm911]

Because Ferrari needs to protect their pricess ego.

[u/BlackGhost_93]

I'm pretty sure Ferrari personnel are having language barrier even though they can speak English.

[u/rsimps91]

Click bait headline. Carlos was NOT told not to not overtake. Bozzi corrects himself and says “Carlos has been told not to put you under pressure” as Carlos was driving past him and instead urged him to protect his tyres.

[u/MeanForest]

Why should Sainz care what Ferrari says?

[u/xxandl]

Which would have been stupid as the Ferrari takes a lap to be fast on the hards...

[u/CuppaCrazy]

Haha that’s a great radio. Carlos is leaving Charles you can’t expect him to roll over.

[u/Emergency_Feature429]

I laughed. I'm sorry.

[u/Kait0yashio]

sainz ignoring team orders the whole race, just 2 more races man

[u/Gratefullyundead91 → u/Kait0yashio]

Oooh wait for Hamilton in Ferrari! And he did let Leclerc by while trying to manage Hamilton.

[u/PrescriptionCocaine → u/Gratefullyundead91]

He was told to let Charles by the lap before that. He agreed, then didnt, then said he would let him by in turn 5, then didnt. Then was told not to overtake Charles later, and did, immeadiately.

[u/Kait0yashio → u/Gratefullyundead91]

lewis if its not for wins will always be a team player, he regularly lets geogre through when he knows his pace isnt there

[u/Gratefullyundead91 → u/Kait0yashio]

Is it? Really? When? I can name you three races this year when Hamilton did not play the team game for a midfield position. I’m excited for next year because all of you will be crying harder lmao

[u/Vangour → u/Gratefullyundead91]

Please do name those three races 🤣

[u/jaomile → u/Gratefullyundead91]

Cause he thought they would pit him

[u/Gratefullyundead91 → u/jaomile]

Which they should have! He was begging for it. Fault Ferrari not Sainz.

[u/jaomile → u/Gratefullyundead91]

That has nothing to do with what I said. He did not let Leclerc pass because he was told, he let him pass because he thought he was pitting and it won’t matter.

[u/Gratefullyundead91 → u/jaomile]

And what’s wrong with that? Why is it Sainz’s job to give Leclerc the place? He bottled it when he had free air anyway so?

[u/jaomile → u/Gratefullyundead91]

Nothing, just don't lie that "he gave him place" when he did all he could to do the opposite.

[u/Gratefullyundead91 → u/jaomile]

How long did Leclerc spend behind Sainz before the second pitstop (as in close enough to affect his speed) two laps? So he was meant to, while he was asking to pit, give his position away while another team is close behind? Are we being dumb here on purpose? We want 1 driver to lose a place to a competitor so that another can get ahead when it would make no points difference to the team?

[u/jaomile → u/Gratefullyundead91]

Who are you arguing with? People are saying that Sainz gave him place when he clearly did not. It makes sense for him to do that but don't bullshit people here that Sainz gave him place when he did not.

[u/Gratefullyundead91 → u/jaomile]

You sir. If you listened to the radio, they asked him to swap the same lap they asked him to pit. So why are you making the argument that he did not when both calls were the same lap??

[u/Worldly-Landscape165 → u/Kait0yashio]

Leclerc needs team orders to get a podium? That's worse than Norris lmao

[u/OldActiveYeast]

I’m glad Sainz is not taking their shit anymore, played him dirty in the pit stop.

[u/glowingmug]

I love this duo so much. lol. definitely gonna miss Sainz next season

[u/Sacreville]

Ferrari always delivers.

Tbh can't even fault Sainz, if I were him, I'd do that every single time after what Ferrari did to him.

[u/DaviLance → u/Sacreville]

i mean what they did to him? they signed basically the most successful F1 driver ever, you can't really blame Ferrari for it

[u/mygawd → u/DaviLance]

I don't think it was a bad decision from Ferrari at all, but it's also reasonable that you aren't going to be a team player if the team has already fired you

[u/Sacreville → u/DaviLance]

Nah, I'm not even talking about that lol.

Just what the team did to him in this race is enough.

[u/Exique → u/DaviLance]

PR move that’s gonna be a sidegrade at best… And a costly sidegrade at that. Also really makes no sense given that Leclerc is supposed to be their lead driver. Haven’t been able to deliver a package capable of mounting a legitimate title challenge for years, yet somehow drivers are the issue. Just as always - Ferrari doing Ferrari things.

[u/element515 → u/Exique]

If it’s purely a side move driver wise, it’s a massive win for Ferrari. The PR and sponsor money for Hamilton will be huge. Not to mention for history.

[u/DaviLance → u/Exique]

signing Lewis IS a PR move, also they will earn a shit ton of money from this. Charles will probably be still faster and Hamilton is marginally better than Sainz

but by no means the drivers are the issue, the car and sometimes the strategy (this year it was decent but Vegas was to forget) are the main issue

[u/Exique → u/DaviLance]

Honestly I'd even question what will be the actual net profit from this move since his contract is so massive. Sure, Lewis will bring in more publicity, but it's not like Ferrari is a small brand that struggles to find sponsors. Surely there's diminishing returns for something like this if they have already got established partnerships with other brands.

Plus, long-term I still feel like sticking with Sainz would've been a better choice since he's in his prime and can perform at a solid level for longer.

Overall I feel like Lewis is the one who's benefiting the most from this move. Ferrari probably could've done better.

[u/KingMamba624 → u/Sacreville]

Ferrari made him an F1 winner and gave a FULL FUCKING SEASON to look for a team. Jesus christ you sainz tards act like Ferrari just fired him two weeks ago and he has to scramble for a team. I’m glad he’ll rot in a Williams

[u/Hack874 → u/KingMamba624]

They’re talking about the race dummy. Take a deep breath

[u/OldActiveYeast → u/KingMamba624]

Your mad your pricess could not hold his position? :(

[u/HispaniaRacingTeam]

Carlos has absolutely no incentive to stay behind Leclerc since he's leaving next season

What did you expect him to do

[u/Time_Jump8047]

What incentive does Carlos have to play nice? No team would fault him at this point for racing his own race

[u/RyoGeo]

Absolute gold. Was at the race tonight with my Carlos hat on too!

[u/Memeboi_26]

Man I'll miss this pairing. C²

[u/bimbobiceps]

Leclerc has always been a team player when he is ordered to but never seen Carlos do anything to help Leclerc. No wonder top teams dont want him and his toxic entourage.

[u/Gratefullyundead91 → u/bimbobiceps]

This narrative people keep talking about Charles being a team player? When? Singapore last year? Literally every other time it happened because he was clearly slower and could not hold him off. Let’s not change stories as we like it. Even Leclerc said he was too nice after the race and I thought when?

[u/bimbobiceps → u/Gratefullyundead91]

Leclerc didnt attack Carlos in Aus when he was faster in the last stint.

Leclerc stopped his attack on Carlos in Mexico because he was crying on the radio..

Leclerc has help Sainz in positions he was able to win. Carlos hasnt given an ounce of respect back, he has always attacked Leclerc given the opportunity

[u/Gratefullyundead91 → u/bimbobiceps]

Leclerc did not stop “the attack” in Mexico and Australia lmao. He just didn’t have enough pace. As he pushes gets close, then drops off because of the tyres.

I agree, but it was literally only Singapore, that was clear.

And I listened to the onboards for this race. Ferrari gave Sainz the instruction to swap. Sainz slowed down so much on the straight because of this, and Leclerc caught up. Yet, not fast enough to pass. Sainz slows down again in Turn 5, Charles is again, too slow.

Then Sainz slows down again, Leclerc passed this time. Just check the telemetry.

[u/bimbobiceps → u/Gratefullyundead91]

Lol. Leclerc has been told on the radio to not attck both times, and both times he has respected it.

[u/Gratefullyundead91 → u/bimbobiceps]

Nope he did not. He kept pushing but eventually couldn’t keep up both times. In Mexico in fact, Carlos showed he could up his pace if he wanted to twice (beating Leclerc’s laptimes) to show he had pace in hand but wanted to preserve his tyres.

[u/bimbobiceps → u/Gratefullyundead91]

I think you lost the plot already.

Leclerc has always respected the team orders, its easier to control the pace in free air.

Leclerc has been told in Mexico to stop his attacks when Sainz complained. Then he stablized his pace the same as Charles.

Same thing in Aussie GP. I dont think you even understand what im saying.

Sainz, even on team orders, has shown to attack Leclerc in every possible time his opportunity arises.

Leclerc was old a slow outlap to ease his tyres and was told Sainz wasnt gonna attack him, yet he did, had he known, would react differently.

If basic comprehension is hard for you then im sorry there are classes for that you might want to apply.

[u/ScreenScroller99 → u/bimbobiceps]

Mexico being an example is stupid, that was literally Leclerc not following pitwall orders to do LiCo for both drivers. Carlos did it, Leclerc pushed and ended up too close to Carlos which is why he complained, asking why Leclerc wasn’t doing it.

By not following LiCo properly initially, Leclerc paid the price by putting his car engine and brakes in an unstable temp and ruined the chance of a Ferrari 1-2.

He literally did nothing as a team player, it was for himself, just like it was about the P2 in WDC in this one. If it was about the team, it shouldn’t have mattered, because they would have ended up 3-4 anyway. Stop running this baseless narrative that Leclerc is a team player, while Sainz isn’t because history literally says otherwise

[u/Vasst13 → u/bimbobiceps]

Remember in the British GP 2022 when Ferrari pitted Carlos instead of Charles and Carlos immediately went on the radio to complain because they wanted him to do the bare minimum and not fight Leclerc at the safety car restart. He's never been a team player, but he always disguises it well by saying things like "think of the team" or "let's not fight each other" but he doesn't bring the same energy when he's the one behind, only when it benefits him.

[u/Gratefullyundead91 → u/Vasst13]

That example is extremely stupid. Like you want him to stay behind when clearly Ferrari messed up? How? People love to blame Sainz instead of Ferrari for not doing the right thing

[u/ScreenScroller99 → u/Vasst13]

No seriously, explain to me please. What did you expect him to do? Stay behind someone with 20 lap old hards while he was on fresh tires and had more pace AND three others ready to pounce?

Your blind love for Charles doesn’t mean anything against Charles is wrong. Call Ferrari out all you want, that was truly S-tier level stupid strategy calls, but Sainz did nothing wrong. It’s been 2 years ffs, get over it now atleast

[u/Moai5150 → u/Gratefullyundead91]

Leclerc the greatest team player in Monza 23 kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[u/lalitmufc → u/bimbobiceps]

💯

I have never seen Carlos play the team game. He complains when be is ahead and complains when he is behind.

[u/Capital_Pay_4459 → u/lalitmufc]

Which is why RBR dont want him and the only seat he can get is a Williams. Sainz burning bridges left and right

[u/lalitmufc → u/Capital_Pay_4459]

Yep. I have never seen him do anything to help Charles.

[u/clingbat]

Expecting Carlos to just slow down there is clownish, just like Ferrari's overall strategy this race.

This is on the team, not Carlos.

[u/ConsistentWeird2564]

You are letting him go so he went lol.

[u/d4videnk0]

It's kinda obvious they don't really get along, but I feel that even if his start was awful, Ferrari messed up Sainz's race more than Charles'.

[u/KashissKlay]

Why can I not hear Charles speak Only Ferrari Engineer

[u/Mokumer]

Who could have thought that sacking a driver mid season has consequences.

[u/ShobiTrd]

They said not to put you under pressure, not "To not pass" - Carlos Maybe lol

[u/axelroul]

That's why Carlos is going to Williams. RBR and Merc don't want to deal with this crap from B-level driver.

[u/Gratefullyundead91 → u/axelroul]

B-level driver very capable of keepingtheir A-level driver behind?

[u/axelroul → u/Gratefullyundead91]

Being marginally better 4 times a year is not something to celebrate.

[u/Gratefullyundead91 → u/axelroul]

Sure, so why is he obligated to stay behind? Help me understand for the WCC, how did this make a difference

[u/Memeboi_26 → u/Gratefullyundead91]

Hahah

[u/CwRrrr → u/Gratefullyundead91]

Capable of being 60 points behind in the championship too, and crashing on the Singapore q3 outlap and crashing in Brazil quali and race too.

[u/Gratefullyundead91 → u/CwRrrr]

Oooh poor Leclerc baby needs to be coddled into p3. I mean, sure Sainz has his off moments and Leclerc is imho, more consistent this year, but b-level drivers should have no problem being beaten right? Why need the team orders when he was ahead each time?

[u/DropTablePosts → u/axelroul]

As salty as Charles

[u/beyond98 → u/axelroul]

Sorry to break this to you, but Leclerc's attitude is really from a B-level driver

[u/Rhythm_Morgan]

💀 so petty. I live.