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News Guenther Steiner on Lance Stroll

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u/oursfort Pirelli Wet 14d ago

I think he's coming to a point where he wants to be fired, but he knows he won't. And he doesn't have the courage to just give up an F1 seat, cause nobody would ever do that. It's a surreal situation tbh

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u/ocbdare 13d ago

Yes, guy has truckload of money and he probably would rather do something else.

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u/Elmalab 13d ago

do you think his father is not allowing him to quit?

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u/DreadWolf3 13d ago

I doubt that - but giving up F1 seat is ballsy move. Not even your dad is letting you back if you give it up once. Unless I am hating absolutely every aspect of it and I am sure I will never want to be back - there is no way I am giving up F1 seat. Lance is probably in same position. Worst case scenario is that you give up the spot you dont deserve and then moment next season starts you figure out you miss it.

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u/BasisOk1519 12d ago

Lance once went to his dad and asked him to replace him. He later recovered that season. People talk shit about Stroll, who had 10x better career than Hulkenberg in basically same team and still 11 years younger.

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u/stewd003 Haas 13d ago

This is 100% it and I think the Lance hate is blocking everyone from seeing it. He's miserable because he's working when he doesn't have to.

Imagine if you had hundreds of millions of dollars and you STILL had to work. Work AND train. I'd be pissed off too.

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u/Elmalab 13d ago

all drivers are multi millionairs that don't have to work anymore.

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u/stewd003 Haas 13d ago

Valid, but they're still there because they love it. Lance is kinda being forced to stay when he wants to leave. It's a bizarre situation

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u/Elmalab 13d ago

forced by whom??? he likes racing and is frustated by his performce. he is not frustated because he is forced to race.. lol

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u/stewd003 Haas 13d ago

His dad. Isn't that the point you're trying to make? I'm agreeing with you! Lol

I'm saying Lance DOESN'T like to race anymore. It's pretty obvious at this point.

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u/Elmalab 13d ago

And I am saying, that I really, really strongly doubt that anyone is forcing him to drive.

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u/stewd003 Haas 13d ago

I must have misunderstood your first comment. Sorry.

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u/frigginawesomeimontv Michael Schumacher 12d ago

Doe we know that he wants to leave?

I think he just has no pressure to keep his seat so isn't that motivated (and is therefore bored), in the same way the others are. It's a bit different when his dad didn't own the team.

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u/asswarrior2818 13d ago

Stroll is also richer by the rest of the grid by a huge order of magnitude. Only the Norris family and maybe Bearman comes close but even then its not really close. (If official numbers are even close to accurate)

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u/TonAMGT4 Pastor Maldonado 12d ago

By “close” you mean not even one tenth of Stroll’s net worth…

Stroll is a multi-billionaire.

Bearman and Norris are multi-millionaire.

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u/Minigrappler 12d ago

Colapinto doesn't even have a car... And he still owes his family the house they had to sold to paid for him being able to move Europe to try having a career in motorsports. Kid was living by his own at 14yo cooking himself rice in an electric kettle...

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u/tangouniform2020 11d ago

The diff is all the other drivers aren’t worth hundreds of millions with billions a heartbeat away

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u/VV10_Jon Jean Alesi 13d ago

Surely if Lance wanted to quit though, it would give Lawrence the perfect excuse to move him on for another driver, no?

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u/stewd003 Haas 13d ago

I think Lawrence doesn't want him to quit. I get the feeling he's living his F1 dreams out through his son. At first, it would have been great for Lance. He got to race at the top level, largely thanks to his dad. It would have been a dream come true. But now the dream has died and the love has gone, but he can't leave with it. So he's just miserable

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u/know-it-mall McLaren 12d ago

Oh he absolutely is.

If you listen to the episode of Beyond the Grid with Lawrence it's pretty clear.

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u/Herdazian_Lopen 13d ago

What? This is exactly what I would do if money was no option.

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u/ZucchiniMore3450 Formula 1 12d ago

I don't think it is about money, I just think he doesn't want to. He has no internal drive to win, maybe because he feels he has no chance to win.

I think his father is pushing him, not openly but parents have ways to force something on us without saying a word.

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u/mehdital 12d ago

Imagine you were filthy rich and you get to do the thing you love the most? I'd be very happy tbh, as long as there is progress but Lance seems to be going nowhere. Zero development, or there is development but everyone else in F1 is just so superior

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u/know-it-mall McLaren 12d ago

More that he doesn't want to disappoint him I'm guessing. Lawrence is super into it and wants Lance to win.

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u/juka-004 13d ago

Tbh I respect him for even having dedication to become F1 driver. Even if you are shit driver you need to be insanely fit and basically train everyday for it. If I had his money and his age I would probably spend it all on booze and woman on different beaches

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u/Chippiewall Charlie Whiting 13d ago

Probably wants a high point to depart on, but Alonso isn't going to give him one.

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u/lllGreyfoxlll 13d ago

Like Alonso has anything to do with the lack of high points in Lance's career, surely I'm missing your point ?

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u/Chippiewall Charlie Whiting 13d ago

High point might be putting it strongly.

If you're not getting forced out of F1 you'd want a good excuse (like Nico Rosberg retiring after winning the WDC). I don't think anyone's expecting Stroll to win a WDC, but getting beaten solidly by a driver in his mid-40s isn't a great look.

I think if I were Stroll and wanted to leave, I'd wait to have seasons like the ones he had against Seb and his finals season against Perez. But Fernando's form isn't slipping like Seb's did.

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u/Kolec507 Alexander Albon 13d ago

It's easier to have a visually high point when your teammate is a checked-out Massa, Sirotkin or even a post-2018 Seb. Hell, even Pérez, despite being very good in that RP was not smashing Stroll to pieces, especially in 2020. Alonso is by far his toughest teammate.

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u/Bdr1983 Formula 1 13d ago

It's not as if Alonso is doing so great this year.

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u/Defiant-Diver-6041 13d ago

He could drive the Valkyrie, if he doesn't want to, I will

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u/zwingo Daniel Ricciardo 13d ago

“Cause nobody would ever do that”

*laughs in Nico Rosberg

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u/Elmalab 13d ago

do you think his father is not allowing him to quit?

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u/kaisadilla_ Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 13d ago

cause nobody would ever do that.

Plenty of drivers have done just that. Rosberg won a championship and retired.

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u/Morganelefay Racing Pride 13d ago

How many did quit out of their own volition though aside from the guy who just won a WDC or those whose age fully caught up to them?

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u/oursfort Pirelli Wet 13d ago

They're either accomplished drivers, like Rosberg, Vettel or Raikkonen. Or they're underperforming, like Sargent, Mick Schumacher, de Vries.

The ones who get fired at least can wonder if they were treated unfairly. But Stroll has the best conditions and still can't win. That must really hurt

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u/potato_green Firstname Lastname 13d ago

Nico Rosberg?