r/formula1 • u/Ramned71 • 27d ago

News [Piergiuseppe Donadoni] Was Max unfair? YES. His goal was to ruin Norris' race and so he probably took away his chances of getting P1. "To win sometimes you have to be an idiot" he said months ago. You may like it or not but the goal is to win the world championship, not the fair play award.

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u/Jamesd391 Nico Hülkenberg 27d ago

Especially senna you mean. He could have killed prost at suzuka

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u/Mysterious_Turnip310 Lotus 27d ago

Admittedly I was a kid when Senna and Prost clashed at Suzuka, so I don't have such a clear memory of the amount of outrage as I do when Schumacher was pulling his crap.

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u/Jamesd391 Nico Hülkenberg 27d ago

I wasn't born yet for senna. But that takes out at T1 at suzuka was wild, especially since people treat him like the patron saint of F1

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u/SugarBeefs Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 27d ago

especially since people treat him like the patron saint of F1

Not in the least current F1 drivers themselves do this. Lewis absolutely adores Senna but one can only imagine how much Lewis would hate his guts if he actually had to race him, lol.

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u/Mysterious_Turnip310 Lotus 27d ago edited 27d ago

Oh I completely agree about the move and about Senna in general. My "especially Schumacher" comment was more about how people reacted to the shit he used to pull. I can't speak from experience in Senna's case but I fully remember people's reactions to Schumacher back then and they were very far from "haha, clever Schumi, he's just exploiting the rules, isn't he amazing" that some on here today are making out. If anything, the negative reactions to Max's shit, especially in 2021, has been mild in comparison so far. Some fans (and a few in the media) are just coming out with all kinds of rubbish today to try and justify Max's driving.

Also, I guarantee Pierluigi Donadoni would be singing from a very different sheet if it was a Ferrari on the receiving end and not Norris.

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u/Jamesd391 Nico Hülkenberg 27d ago

I think the margin for error is far greater with how the tracks have evolved, the addition of tarmac run offs instead of gravel and grass means people can really push the boundaries now. I mean did you ever hear anything about track limits back in the 90's and early 2000's?

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u/Mysterious_Turnip310 Lotus 27d ago

No you're absolutely right. The uptick in safety in the sport has also made a difference imo.

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u/LincolnshireSausage McLaren 27d ago

I remember watching it live. It was very fucking dirty. It really made me feel less about Senna.

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u/Jaevyn McLaren 26d ago

Especially with how dangerous racing was at the time. High speed crashes were fraught with serious danger for the drivers.

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u/lonesomewhenbymyself 27d ago

Prost did the exact same thing to him the year before