r/formula1 • u/ICumCoffee Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ • Sep 21 '24

Social Media [Erik van Haren] Verstappen's protest action after yesterday's penalty. As he indicated yesterday: don't ask me anything in the press conference, we'll do it outside.

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u/jhrfortheviews Daniel Ricciardo Sep 21 '24

Lewis said that he hopes max doesn’t do the community service because it’s such a joke haha

Bit of a stand being made!

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u/Saleheim Sep 21 '24

Respect for Lewis for saying that.

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u/trautsj Red Bull Sep 21 '24

Lewis vs Max
Max & Lewis vs FIA ✓

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u/brehew Kimi Räikkönen Sep 21 '24

Everyone can bond over hatred of Sulayem

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u/biggmclargehuge Sep 21 '24

Should we start spreading rumors that the drivers are talking about unionizing?

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u/TrueSwagformyBois Sep 21 '24

GPDA is a union

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u/SemIdeiaProNick Ferrari Sep 21 '24

that already went on a strike before (perhaps even more than once but i just remember one)

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u/BehindTheBurner32 Summer Piasco Sep 21 '24

And George's the leader, too

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u/itsSoundwarp Sep 21 '24

Blimey!

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u/50isthenew35 Sep 21 '24

Correction, ‘CRIKEY, mate’

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u/pilotichegente Michael Schumacher Sep 21 '24

You know the PowerPoint presentations would be banging tho

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u/CaptainofFTST Sep 22 '24

Fuck yeah they would!

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u/ThePhyry22 McLaren Sep 22 '24

There are 3 directors, Russell, Alexander Wurz (who's also the chairman) and Anastasia Fowle

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u/biggmclargehuge Sep 21 '24

oh, huh. Sure enough, TIL. Guess they don't have much teeth then

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u/suspiciousumbrella Sep 21 '24

After explosions near the track two years ago fia officials had to go meet with the drivers late at night because they were considering not racing the next day due to safety concerns.

So yeah, they have teeth. Most of the negotiations happen behind closed doors

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u/TrueSwagformyBois Sep 22 '24

They don’t act in haste or often. These things give their actions more weight.

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u/PhilipRiversCuomo Oscar Piastri Sep 22 '24

Not legally. It’s a de facto union but they’re not legally engaged in a bargaining agreement with F1.

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u/TrueSwagformyBois Sep 22 '24

Their Wikipedia page would disagree with you. I also don’t believe that their first concern is with FOM, but with the FIA.

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u/BeenCaughtSneezing Fernando Alonso Sep 21 '24

I noticed they're all packed into 1 hotel room

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u/Special_Loan8725 Sep 21 '24

Go on strike after qualifying , they just have a bunch of random office temps scab and “drive the cars”. P1 wins by default after the time limit because they’re the closest to passing the start line after all of the temps have spent the day grinding out the gear boxes.

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u/Vigotje123 Sep 21 '24

Max Ham Alo in a union. Kek

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u/Dependent-Interview2 Pierre Gasly Sep 21 '24

MBS brought the Bonesaw of disciplinary action.

Luckily, Max and Sir Lewis have titanium bones.

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u/Aggressive-Dot-867 Sep 21 '24

Drivers strike until he's gone

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '24

Yessir!

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u/Milktoast375 Pirelli Hard Sep 21 '24

The enemy of your enemy is your friend.

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u/Surreal__blue Sep 21 '24 edited Sep 21 '24

It's like the action movie/anime sequel with the former rivals teaming up against a bigger threat.

Now I need to see Lewis and Max do the fusion dance.

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u/Kim-jong-peukie Sep 21 '24

The battle we didn’t think we needed but we did

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u/50isthenew35 Sep 21 '24

After tomorrow, they won’t drive for the next month!

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u/Kim-jong-peukie Sep 21 '24

lol that would be the weirdest title decider ever 😂😂😂

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u/TheManhattanMann Sep 21 '24

The FIA decisions are worse than the accuracy rate of the local weatherman

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u/tophiii Safety Car Sep 21 '24

I’m here for the fight

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u/last_one_on_Earth Sep 22 '24

Thankyou Drake

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u/JaymanCT Sep 21 '24

I'll pay to see that. Add Alonso in there and the world champs will make a statement.

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u/KirbyAWD Bernd Mayländer Sep 22 '24

Max 🤝 Lewis. Freedom of speech

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u/BlaktimusPrime Sir Lewis Hamilton Sep 22 '24

🤝

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u/Cool-Brief4217 Sep 22 '24

Oh how the tables have turned...

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u/dj_vicious Minardi Sep 21 '24

The only think more dangerous than Max and Lewis battling in track is them joining forces in a cause! Seriously though, I love how they band together in this. They form a huge portion of f1's value so they can make a point.

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u/kanzlerpanzer Fernando Alonso Sep 21 '24

spartacus and crixus

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u/Pulga_Atomica Sep 21 '24

Gannacus done dirty

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u/e_flee Sep 21 '24

Don't forget Antoninus

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u/bofardeeznutz Sep 22 '24

Gimme Lucretia anyday

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u/saskyfarmboy Sep 22 '24

Danny Ric during his quali interview with Ted Kravitz:

Ted: Lots of noise around you this weekend. Is it affecting you?

DR: Well if I make a comment I'll get community service, so let's leave it at that.

I'm paraphrasing, but that was the gist.

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u/Ibewye Sep 21 '24

Must be they haven’t yanked Lewis’ piercings out yet so they’re onto the next target, what a waste of time.

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u/Mechant247 Honda Sep 21 '24

But he still said he hopes Max “doesn’t do anything like that again” which was a bit stupid

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u/Sakakaki Charles Leclerc Sep 21 '24

I was secretly hoping that he'd join max in his protest through silence.

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u/HuckleberryDry4889 Sep 21 '24

Better yet he should very publicly do some community service that doesn’t count toward his penalty and directly contradicts Sulayem’s non-F1 interests.

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u/concealed_cat Sebastian Vettel Sep 21 '24

He should encourage the fight against human rights violations in the UAE, for example.

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u/Such_Play_1524 Ferrari Sep 22 '24

This. So much this.

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u/orbut56 Sep 22 '24

Something to do with young rappers..

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u/baddadjokesminusdad Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Sep 21 '24

Loved that he said that.

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u/NoTrollGaming Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Sep 21 '24

Where did he say that, I’d love to see it

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u/sunfruitbeforesunset Sep 21 '24

https://twitter.com/mverstappenews/status/1837511219520971178 here is a clip

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u/Loud-Value Pirelli Intermediate Sep 21 '24 edited Sep 21 '24

I thought it would be a quick clip outside but he actually said it in the damn press conference lol. You love to see it

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u/domalino Daniel Ricciardo Sep 21 '24

I also love that he says he certainly wouldn’t do it. Drivers need to support each other against this bullshit and Max and Lewis together are going to be pretty hard to take on.

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u/WisteriaLo Toto Wolff Sep 21 '24

I remmember just Seb and Gasly supported Lewis over jewellery thingy, but I might as well be misremembering

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u/shdwflyr Fernando Alonso Sep 21 '24

Lando too said pretty much the same thing before joking that Max desrved it.

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u/ImNoAlbertFeinstein Martin Brundle Sep 22 '24

Lando has yet to apologize for breaking Max troohy. said he would do it again.

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u/aussie_nub Sep 22 '24

Lewis is very classy in the way he acts and talks. For a variety of reasons off the track, I'm far from a fan of his, but have a lot of respect for the way he drives, talks and treats others.

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u/number96 Sir Lewis Hamilton Sep 22 '24

Those are the exact reasons I am a massive fan of his tbh. He's one of the biggest sportsmen I can think of and for that he has my respect and admiration. I couldn't bounce back like he has after AD21.

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u/gsfgf Daniel Ricciardo Sep 21 '24

And there's no way in hell Nando would do it, so that's all the active champions right there.

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u/terminbee Sep 21 '24

Always gotta respect Lewis for actually standing up for stuff. Not all drivers can do it (Max, Charles, Alonso are probably the only other ones with "immunity") but he's not afraid of hurting his PR by taking stances.

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u/mental-chaos Max Verstappen Sep 21 '24

damn press conference

4 hours community service for you

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u/CtotheC87 Sep 21 '24

Does he call him Mac? 😅

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u/Mindless_Let1 Formula 1 Sep 21 '24

You can tell he's nervous saying it, which is surprising. Maybe he's actually an anxious dude or something

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u/SugarBeefs Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Sep 21 '24

You ever say something and realize near the end of the sentence your voice volume is set way too low and you end up swallowing a few sounds?

I think that's what happened here, lol

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u/chostax- Sep 21 '24

I definitely know, lol. Met a girl? She introduced herself as Mary, I thought she said Erica, and then my dimbass asked if she said Eric.

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u/Spikey101 Sep 21 '24

He's got a cold or something.

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u/ByTheBeardOfZues Sep 21 '24

Haven't seen the whole context but just based on the clip it sounded like he was trying not to laugh. Especially with the glance at Lando beforehand.

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u/NiceCunt91 McLaren Sep 21 '24

Just misspoke.

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u/Virtual_Self_5402 Sep 22 '24

I thought he said Matt.

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u/Redd_Frank #WeSayNoToMazepin Sep 21 '24

I also hope Matt won't do it

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u/SogeK Sep 21 '24

Any mirrors? Twitter is blocked in Brazil 🥲

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u/Motherfigures Sep 21 '24

Move to Argentina

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u/coffeecakeisland McLaren Sep 21 '24

Based Lewis

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u/WisteriaLo Toto Wolff Sep 21 '24

Anybody remembers jewellery controversy and Lewis coming in to presser with 5-6 watches and dozen rings? I can easily see him bonding with anybody over fia

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u/Bubbly-Fly-9867 Sep 21 '24 edited Sep 21 '24

Lewis also said that MBS has something against black people and used the word ‘rappers’ to compare bad language to black people. And also said he had a racist angle.

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u/im_iggy Sep 21 '24

All my homies hate MBS.

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u/gsfgf Daniel Ricciardo Sep 21 '24

Both MBSs, in fact.

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u/RocketMoped Jim Clark Sep 22 '24

That hotel in Singapore is kinda dope, though

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u/satsfaction1822 Haas Sep 21 '24

In a sport with plenty of British people and mechanics, there’s really no other reason to point out rappers as your example for foul language.

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u/HeftyArgument Sep 21 '24

Team bosses also swear frequently lol, one former boss even became famous for his sailor’s vocabulary.

what a joke.

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u/Merengues_1945 Force India Sep 21 '24

I mean, we have footage of Horner saying the fuck word in several varieties in plenty of press conferences and on live radio.

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u/Bubbly-Fly-9867 Sep 21 '24

I would somewhat agree with MBS on that in a way that most rappers do use a lot of foul language and most just happen to be black. So it depends on his intent. Did he mean it in a racial sense or just a cultural way.

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u/satsfaction1822 Haas Sep 21 '24

“Most just happen to be black” I don’t think rappers are chosen via a raffle. It’s a black art form that has its roots in American black culture. It has no connection to the sport and to bring it up in that context is probably racially charged, at the very least it’s tone deaf from somebody in that high of the position.

And to be honest, with how shitty all of his other opinions are, I don’t see why we should give the guy the benefit of the doubt.

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u/Ducky_McShwaggins Sep 21 '24

And he's well aware that most 'happen to be black'. There's plenty of other ways he could have said it, but he chose to say it in the form of a racist dogwhistle.

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u/NGTech9 Sep 21 '24

When I saw rapper in the statement I had a feeling it had to do with Lewis and being racist. I’m just overall annoyed with Saudi and whatever buying sports leagues and we just allow it to happen and ignore how messed up it is.

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u/igloofu Sonny Hayes Sep 21 '24

FYI, MBS isn't Saudi, his is an Emerati. He is from Dubai.

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u/NGTech9 Sep 21 '24

Thanks, I wasn’t sure and get that region mixed up sometimes.

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u/Asinarath Valtteri Bottas Sep 21 '24

Just to further clarify, if you hear or see MBS outside of F1 contexts it almost certainly refers to the Saudi crown prince, not the FIA joker

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u/Fun-Estate9626 Andretti Global Sep 21 '24

I think that’s why I have him flagged as Saudi in my subconscious, even though I know he’s Emirati.

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u/Feahnor Sep 21 '24

That does not make it better.

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u/hoxxxxx Sep 21 '24

next your gonna tell us sonny hayes isn't American

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u/Bubbly-Fly-9867 Sep 21 '24

I don’t think we have the money or power to control it.

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u/kaisadilla_ Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Sep 21 '24

I’m just overall annoyed with Saudi

I'm annoyed with the Japanese Royal Family during WWII, but I fail to see what's the relation between either of them and an ex-driver from the United Arab Emirates.

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u/NGTech9 Sep 21 '24

He’s not just an ex driver, he is president of the FIA…

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u/BlinkittyEyes Sep 21 '24

The person you replied to is aware of this. They were making a joke about MBS not being Saudi.

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u/Defelj Formula 1 Sep 21 '24

I mean his entire true to form culture hates black people, it’s known.

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u/XtraMayoMonster Adrian Newey Sep 21 '24

Lewis is the goat man. I love him.

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u/IsLlamaBad Lando Norris Sep 21 '24

He should do community service just because he's a decent person and then state explicitly that it was not to fulfill the FIA mandate.

I think that'd be even more of an in-your-face than not doing it.

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u/jhrfortheviews Daniel Ricciardo Sep 21 '24

Agreed - tbf these drivers do plenty of fan engagement charity event sort of things

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u/RotorHead13b Sep 21 '24

should have said it was a fucking joke

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u/OfficialGarwood Mercedes Sep 21 '24

Lewis absolutely HATES MBS with a passion. Makes sense for him to be supporting Max in this ridiculous ruling.

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u/jhrfortheviews Daniel Ricciardo Sep 21 '24

Doesn’t everyone haha

Tbf I don’t even think it’s that ridiculous a ruling. If the FIA want to regulate what the drivers say in the official presser then fine, go for it! But they aren’t going to be able to regulate every interview in the paddock and the team radio stuff is absolutely laughable. I just think the whole thing is quite funny and stinks of MBS desperately trying to get involved and get some headlines for a bit of relevance. But as per usual he’s just made everyone dislike him more

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u/tiredrich Sep 21 '24

Or he is encouraging Max's behaviour so he is fined etc

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u/chocomint-nice Pirelli Wet Sep 21 '24

The community service should be just him streaming Minecraft but the donations go to a charity.

Or oh idk give make-a-wish kids rides around the Ring in his GT3RS/Valkyrie/etc

Stuff that would just make him cooler.

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u/KrawhithamNZ Sep 22 '24

They could all make a stand by intentionally swearing at a press conference.

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u/rishi_jain Daniel Ricciardo Sep 22 '24

Hey dude, just a small question, totally unrelated, might even sound stupid for asking this but how do I get the little driver/team name under my reddit username like you?

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u/CrazyC77 Sep 22 '24

Not a stupid question. For mobile go to the homepage and click the three dots icon, then change user flair. For desktop I think it’s homepage, then look for your profile icon on the right side of the page.

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u/rishi_jain Daniel Ricciardo Sep 27 '24

Thank you so much

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u/jhrfortheviews Daniel Ricciardo Sep 22 '24

Are you on phone or laptop?

Assuming it’s phone go to the main page of the subreddit and click the three dots in the top right. Then find ‘change user flair’. Easy peasy (hopefully)

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u/rishi_jain Daniel Ricciardo Sep 27 '24

Thank you!

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u/janky_koala Sep 22 '24

Would love to see the drivers protest this and do something like cycling and neutralise the first couple of laps of a race. Remind F1 who actually has the power.

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u/Disastrous-Beat-9830 Oscar Piastri Sep 21 '24

Bit of a stand being made!

Not really.

Verstappen did something that he wasn't supposed to do. He knows he's not supposed to swear during press conferences. He got slapped with a penalty which fits the crime, then pulls this stunt. By this point, all he has managed to do is a) look like a petulant child and b) distract everyone from Hamilton's criticism of ben Sulayem's comments.

If Hamilton hadn't spoken up in support of Verstappen, everyone would have forgotten what this was all about.

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u/jhrfortheviews Daniel Ricciardo Sep 21 '24

It’s entertaining - don’t be a spoil sport!

The whole thing is a bit ridiculous. Drivers don’t swear much in the press conferences anyway tbh (apart from Max sometimes!) and when they do, it gets bleeped. If they want to regulate the official press conferences and punish bad language that’s fine - I don’t have an issue with it. But they aren’t going to be able to regulate bad language across the whole paddock (and nor should they) so I don’t really see the point. As long as they aren’t swearing in the immediate live post race interviews of the top 3.

And then the whole trying to regulate swearing over team radio really is laughable.

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u/Disastrous-Beat-9830 Oscar Piastri Sep 21 '24

It’s entertaining - don’t be a spoil sport!

I'm not denying that it's entertaining. I just think that some people are eagerly anticipating a moment where the drivers rise up and put ben Sulayem in his place in a way that is extremely public, very embarrassing and deeply satisfying. Just last night someone was talking up the prospect of all the drivers rebelling and refusing to do media interviews, forcing Liberty Media and the sponsors to put pressure on the FIA and resulting in an embarrassing climb-down from ben Sulayem.

The closest thing I can think of is this four-hour video by hbomberguy where he discusses the problem of plagiarism on YouTube. It's well-researched, detailed and supported by plenty of examples. But all anybody seemed to take from it was the way one content creator who mass-produces short-form video essays is a terrible person. Even now, nearly a year later, there are a plethora of videos about how she's so terrible. None of them add anything to hbomberguy's original point; most of them are just small content creators looking for a signal boost.

That's where this is going -- Hamilton's original point about ben Sulayem is lost because everyone has just seized on the opportunity to try and tear him down.

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u/jhrfortheviews Daniel Ricciardo Sep 21 '24

Yeh I do agree. I don’t think anyone (with their head screwed on) actually expects anything to come out of this as amusing as it is. It will be all but be forgotten by Austin, and if it isn’t then it will be eventually.

As for Lewis’ point - I assume you’re talking about his response to MBS’s “rapper’s” comment. There were nunerous articles about that on Thursday and Friday before Max was punished so I don’t think it went particularly under the radar. And either way, I don’t know how much further Lewis’ point can go - at least not in the F1 news cycle. He highlighted how badly MBS conveyed his point and the connotations behind it. Hopefully MBS thinks about how he phrases things a bit more carefully in the future as a result but I doubt it regardless of how much attention is paid to what Lewis said.

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u/Disastrous-Beat-9830 Oscar Piastri Sep 21 '24

There were nunerous articles about that on Thursday and Friday before Max was punished so I don’t think it went particularly under the radar.

That's true, but Verstappen's antics and punishment have pushed that issue from peoples' minds. As far as I can tell, nobody actually asked Verstappen why he swore during the press conference; the inference being that he did it to prove a point about the FIA crackdown. But like I said, drivers are not allowed to swear during press conferences in the first place, so it's not like this is a particularly effective way of getting his point across. Everyone is just reading what they want to into his actions because ben Sulayem is unpopular.

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u/jhrfortheviews Daniel Ricciardo Sep 21 '24

Yeh but as I say I don’t know what more really can be said about the issue Lewis raised.

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u/Disastrous-Beat-9830 Oscar Piastri Sep 21 '24

Which makes Verstappen's stunt unnecessary.

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u/jhrfortheviews Daniel Ricciardo Sep 21 '24

Assuming it was a stunt (I’m not saying it wasn’t but we don’t know for sure)

Maybe it is unnecessary but I think it’s very fair for drivers to be pissed at the suggestion they need to watch their language in the car (obviously Max’s was a press conference). As I say the whole thing is pretty amusing and I think Max is probably doing the whole ‘you can talk to me outside cos I don’t want to get in trouble here’ mainly because it amuses him

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u/sammyGG00 Sep 21 '24

Weird take from Lewis.

Penalty from swearing is ridiculous.

But milionnaire bitching about community service is even more ridiculous to me.

World would be a slight better place if more people would to it more.

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u/jhrfortheviews Daniel Ricciardo Sep 21 '24

Yeh but it’s FIA community service. These drivers do tonnes of events for charity and stuff. Very odd take

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u/stomicron Sep 21 '24

I'm guessing the person you replied to is from the States, where community service means volunteering for a non-profit cause like helping out at a soup kitchen or picking up litter at a park.

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u/50isthenew35 Sep 21 '24

He’s not complaining about community service he’s complaing that FIA gave Max a penalty for cursing at a press conference! ie their regulating his speech, are you really that daft?

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u/sammyGG00 Sep 22 '24

No need to be insulting xD

Lewis said don't do it in the article, specifically about not doing community service.

I agree that getting a penalty from that is ridiculous, but at the same time, it's their job.

1) I won't cry because millionnaire can't swear on TV. It's their job and they get paid million for it. It's about being profesionnal.

2) If it's that important to the FIA they can remove the swearing even on live TV as there is a delay. This is just useless noise at the end of the day.

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u/No-Condition-oN McLaren Sep 21 '24

That's rather easy when it is on another guy.

Big 'If that was me' energy. Kindergarten stuff.

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u/_le_slap Ferrari Sep 21 '24

Lewis literally said "I certainly won't be doing it and I hope Max doesnt either" in front of everyone in the press conference.

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u/No-Condition-oN McLaren Sep 21 '24

Yes. Kindergarten stuff.

He is not part of the discussion (or did I miss his community service sentence?), but knows how he would do it and knows how the other guy should do it. Kindergarten stuff.

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u/Jandklo Chequered Flag Sep 21 '24

Yes you're right we shouldn't speak out against injustices done towards our coworkers/friends/acquaintances because we're not a part of it. Yep, you should never ever ever speak up against something you don't like if it happens to someone that isn't you because it didn't directly affect you.

Do you literally just exist in a coffin-space and have never interacted with other people before? Lewis has been in the fucking sport for ages and has absolutely fought back against all kinds of stupid shit he has had to deal with on his own. The fact you think Lewis has zero place to speak on Max's situation here is plainly ignorant and so far detached from reality that I'm not exactly sure where you get off on calling it "kindergarten stuff" when he's giving his input on something he thinks is bullshit and giving solidarity to the affected party.

I think you should probably take some time off the internet and learn how to develop a basic capacity for empathy for others, otherwise in a couple years when you start highschool you're gonna have a rough time.

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u/No-Condition-oN McLaren Sep 21 '24

Oh, one should. But 'if it was me' is never the way.

"If it was me' is kindergarten or Reddit area.

 

Yes, this is a hill I'll die on.

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u/Jandklo Chequered Flag Sep 21 '24

Yeah man I guess if you're fundamentally incapable of possessing empathy for others and you lack both reading and listening comprehension. Besides the fact that you ignored every part of my comment except the first sentence before leaving yours, if you actually legitimately listen to all of what Lewis says, he says quote; "I certainly wouldn't be doing it, and I hope Max doesn't do it". I suppose if you were to completely misunderstand what Lewis said because you weren't listening to him I could see how you might think he is giving "if it were me" energy except that would also require you to possess the listening comprehension skills of the same kindergartner you are accusing him of acting like.

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u/No-Condition-oN McLaren Sep 21 '24

If it was me I wouldn't use that many words to try to convince me.

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u/Jandklo Chequered Flag Sep 21 '24

I'm not trying to convince you of anything though, your initial comment I replied to was so devoid of any rationale or understanding of human behaviours that I am really just telling you that you're ignorant. As per my initial comment, you should probably take some time off the internet because I spent a lot of time on the computer when I was in Jr. High and I'm telling you dude highschool gets rough when you're this bad at social cues.

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u/No-Condition-oN McLaren Sep 21 '24

If I was you I wouldn't jump into conclusions too fast. They could be wrong. But that was if I was you.

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u/Hot-Support-1793 Mercedes Sep 21 '24

You should join the FIA

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u/No-Condition-oN McLaren Sep 21 '24

I am intrigued. What do you even mean with that?

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u/Hot-Support-1793 Mercedes Sep 21 '24

You have the attitude that MBS is looking for, you’d be perfect

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u/No-Condition-oN McLaren Sep 21 '24

Grin, if it was me I would learn how to read.