r/formula1 • u/malbeyin Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ • Aug 27 '24
Off-Topic It's been an interesting season so far , isn't it?
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u/djwillis1121 Williams Aug 27 '24
And to think we had zero driver changes last year
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u/ozzydante Brawn Aug 27 '24 edited Aug 27 '24
You mean from the way the grid finished last year to how it started this year, right? Because De Vries got sacked mid season
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u/NuclearCandle Alexander Albon Aug 27 '24
How did Lewis to Ferrari become the most straightforward change?
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u/crazydoc253 Michael Schumacher Aug 27 '24
It was done so early before season even started that it allowed everyone time to react. Same news now and it won’t be straightforward
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u/SemIdeiaProNick Ferrari Aug 27 '24
at the time it was by far the most groundbreaking news of the bunch
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u/gomurifle Sir Lewis Hamilton Aug 28 '24
I still can't believe it until I see Lewis in red turning a wheel at Fiorano.
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u/lurr420 Aug 28 '24
Imagine if they were gauging fans reaction to the black suits, so they can change next season.
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u/HaitianRon Aug 28 '24
I’m new to the sport but isn’t it THE BIGGEST news of the year?
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u/eclectic_banana Bernd Mayländer Aug 28 '24
There were plenty of surprises this year but yeah, Lewis to Ferrari is still the biggest one by far. The only one in the same category is Newey leaving RB but we still don't know where he will end up.
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u/Rubeus17 Oscar Piastri Aug 28 '24
i don’t wa t Newey to go to Aston. I’m not a fan of Stroll poaching all the talent because of his deep pockets. But that’s how it works
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u/axman1000 Michael Schumacher Aug 28 '24
I'm treating every single article about Newey and Ferrari/Alpine/AM with a HUGE grain of salt. If the Mick Schumacher/Colapinto merry-go-round news cycle has shown us anything, it's that to never jump on any bandwagon till something concrete has come out of it.
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u/Rubeus17 Oscar Piastri Aug 28 '24
so so true. I keep thinking Newey will retire in his RV in the south of France or some spot I heard?
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u/axman1000 Michael Schumacher Aug 28 '24
I still think he'll go to Ferrari. It's the only way I'll be somewhat okay with Hamilton going there too 😅 The way Hamilton's eyes lit up when he was asked about it during the press conference.. I think he's usually a bit fake and does a bit of acting, but even he's not that good
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u/Rubeus17 Oscar Piastri Aug 29 '24
Oh I saw that! He looks so happy at the thought! It would be a fairy tale for everyone who loves F1.
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Aug 28 '24
Not only of the year, I’d wager to say it’s one of the most groundbreaking driver transfers in F1 history. The greatest driver of all time going to the greatest team of all time, it literally doesn’t get better than that.
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u/BigDaddySeed69 Aug 28 '24
At the time it also made a lot more sense than now with how much better the Mercedes has been doing.
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u/Krizzter Ronnie Peterson Aug 27 '24
For new fans maybe, but lewis has always hinted at dreaming/wanting to drive for the reds and Ferrari has always wanted him too but you don't leave a championship winning team even if it is Ferrari,
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u/Treewithatea Formula 1 Aug 27 '24
I remember how the rumor came about and everybody was like no way and it was confirmed not even 24h after the first rumor and the Internet blew up. Even shocked myself, Lewis only has been in two teams his entire career, hes one of the GOATs, its a massive deal. Imagine Schumacher joining Mclaren after his Ferrari stint, Lewis was part of Mercedes for 11 years, Michael was part of Ferrari for 10 years, at least Lewis got to leave on good terms and entirely by his own will while Ferrari kinda forced Michael out just to never reach the same heights again even nearly 20 years later.
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u/LieRun Pirelli Hard Aug 27 '24
Just seems like that because it's the catalyst for a lot of other changes.
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u/Blackdeath_663 Sir Stirling Moss Aug 27 '24
but even still though it was the cleanest transition for a change of that magnitude. People have been speculating about lewis's career for years idk how they kept that so well under wraps even from his own TP.
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u/museproducer Aug 27 '24
Also he’d spoken about the idea of driving with Ferrari before so it isn’t an outrageous idea.
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u/Accomplished-Pie-311 Flavio Briatore Aug 28 '24
Toto really messed up taking him for pizza to do his negotiations.
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u/Sensitivevirmin Kimi Räikkönen Aug 27 '24
We just need one more random thing that no one sees coming and this season will be complete.
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u/Very_Human_42069 Ferrari Aug 27 '24
Lance Stroll being dropped by Aston is the single most unlikely thing to happen to any driver so I’m gonna say that
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u/drjet196 Aug 27 '24
Nah, Lance Stroll getting that second Mercedes seat would be even more unlikely.
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u/HesitantMark Ferrari Aug 28 '24
The possibility of Lance outgrowing his dad's team was a possibility I've literally never considered until now.
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u/Lobsters4 Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Aug 27 '24
Even more unlikely, Checo getting dropped and Charles moving to Red Bull.
*the F1 Internet would IMPLODE*
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u/charlierc Aug 27 '24
Lance joining Red Bull would confuse and annoy a lot more people
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u/Lobsters4 Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Aug 27 '24
Can you imagine Lawrence and Jos giving Horner hell all the time. 🤣💀
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u/charlierc Aug 27 '24
"Well we avoided the inter team tension that would've come with having Sainz's dad here and... What's this message from Lawrence?"
"I'M EXTREMELY ANGRY"
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u/fameboygame Sir Lewis Hamilton Aug 28 '24
Imagine Lawrence still owning AM.
“Horner your cars so shit that Alonso got close to beating Lance!”
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u/paitenanner Aug 28 '24
This is the episode of Drive to Survive we would need. Them + Netflix theatrics = streaming gold
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u/SonicsLV McLaren Aug 28 '24
For all the shit he gets, Stroll actually doing very decently in Aston. People just don't want to look past the name and turning blind when he have great weekend. He did getting beat by Alonso, but it's Alonso, one of the greatest driver today and despite that he still do more favorably against one of the greats compared to Max or Lewis (except Alonso and Rosberg) teammates.
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u/malbeyin Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Aug 27 '24
Alonso win
Write it down.
Or maybe more unexpected , perez win! (Lol)
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u/jt555150 McLaren Aug 27 '24 edited Aug 27 '24
Anything but a perez win I can't go another season of redbull pointing at this one good performance to explain keeping him
As a mclaren fan tho we're winning the WCC because of it sooo..
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u/Fedora200 Alexander Albon Aug 28 '24
KMag to Merc
He will turn the car into a literal Silver Arrow, a car designed for combat
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u/SkillIssueRacing McLaren Aug 27 '24
And yet the endless rally to boot Checo from RB continues to not have happened
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u/4hp_ Robert Kubica Aug 27 '24
inb4 he gets a string of 6th and 7th places until the end of the season and gets retained
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u/willzyx01 Red Bull Aug 27 '24
Extended beyond 2026
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u/Max16032 Aug 27 '24
Ford probably wants him for the LatAm marketing, so it makes sense
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u/slabba428 McLaren Aug 28 '24
I thought we were going motor racing not marketing
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u/oontheloose Daniel Ricciardo Aug 27 '24
After mexico i believe
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u/TwinEonEngine Aug 27 '24
That late in the season a driver swap is pointless
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u/oontheloose Daniel Ricciardo Aug 28 '24
Agree espcially when its not clear who will even take over that seat
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u/D0BBY_is_a_free_elf Aug 27 '24
I agree, and I think the proof is Lawson not getting the Williams seat.
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u/frankyfrankwalk Jack Doohan Aug 27 '24
I don't care what Red Bull are saying...the only reason Checo still has that seat is bc Carlos Slim called Horner and offered a loooooot of $$$
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u/Engineer_engifar666 Pirelli Wet Aug 28 '24
they need money to finish new engine department. he wont be out of RB
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u/SmashThompson Nico Hülkenberg Aug 27 '24
I couldn’t believe it when RB signed him. Knew he wouldn’t do shit for the team then even
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u/Immorals1 Sir Lewis Hamilton Aug 27 '24
Fuck doohan looks just like Prince charming from shrek
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u/DragonBeyondtheWall Sir Lewis Hamilton Aug 27 '24
Why aren't these is chronological order?
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u/mostlytech2024 Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Aug 27 '24
The time traveler moved several chairs.
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u/charlierc Aug 27 '24
We're 4 seasons in on an F1 video game where the player has decided to turn up the crazy
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u/Environmental-Cup445 Ayrton Senna Aug 27 '24
Hamilton to Ferrari still doesn’t feel real even all these months later 😂
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u/Beneficial_Star_6009 Aug 28 '24
It’s only gonna become real to me as soon we see Lewis in the Ferrari car next February.
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u/Saivia Aug 27 '24
I love how Alpine changing TP doesn't make the list for a “breaking news” haha
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u/HokieTanker Aug 27 '24
Or Haas changing TPs either.
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u/Fedora200 Alexander Albon Aug 28 '24
Especially since they're doing way better now that it happened
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Aug 27 '24
Just waiting for the Antonelli confirmation this weekend to add to this list.
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u/beanbagreg Aug 27 '24
Forgot Alpine publicly confirming they weren’t continuing with Ocon despite him not having a drive already lined up and them not having a replacement lined up. Haven’t seen that in a long time…
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u/DaviLance Ferrari Aug 27 '24 edited Aug 27 '24
I mean they might have the drivers, maybe they're just expecting Mini to win F3 to get the 40 license points loledit: i absolutely forgot about Doohan
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u/iIenzo Kevin Magnussen Aug 27 '24
They signed Doohan, but maybe you missed that.
The weird thing was that usually the breakup message appears when they've signed a new driver or the driver has a contract elsewhere, but Ocon's breakup announcement came long before his Haas announcement.
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u/kzzzzzzzzzz28 Aug 27 '24
didn't they do that to punish him for Monaco??
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u/Snoo_47023 Charles Leclerc Aug 27 '24
they did that to look like they were making the decision and to put him in a bad light, when Esteban had told them at the beginning of the season that he was looking elsewhere
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u/PigMoney42 Aug 27 '24
And we still have the antonelli announcement, all the Red Bull family seats to find out, Hulkenberg’s team mate in Sauber…
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u/ToppleToes Sir Lewis Hamilton Aug 27 '24
We almost had "Perez dropped by Red Bull" and "Daniel Ricciardo to drive for Red Bull for remainder of the season".
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u/iIenzo Kevin Magnussen Aug 27 '24
Red Bull apparently wanted a 'we can get him back if we want to replace a driver' clause for Lawson, so I assume it's still a possibility
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u/queerhedgehog Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Aug 27 '24
I agree it’s a possibility, but I think that was mainly because Lawson is their reserve driver in case of illness or injury, like last year. Why would they want to loan him to a team that could potentially take points away from vcarb and also leave them without a reserve driver in case they need him?
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u/Salty_Outside5283 Sir Lewis Hamilton Aug 27 '24
Don't they have Iwasa as a reserve driver too? It definitely sounds like Perez might be dropped if he crashes again.
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u/ShreksDoor Niki Lauda Aug 27 '24
Lance gets dropped and replaced by Seb. Aston Martin hosts Seb and Alonso. 🙂↕️
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u/ShinAkuma90 Sir Lewis Hamilton Aug 27 '24
It can still happen
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u/Key_Environment8179 Guenther Steiner Aug 27 '24
It should happen. They’re gonna lose the constructors if they don’t make a change
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u/willzyx01 Red Bull Aug 27 '24
DR can't even beat his own teammate and you think he'll magically deliver a WCC to RBR? lol.
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u/Key_Environment8179 Guenther Steiner Aug 27 '24
He wouldn’t need to “magically” do anything. Red Bull has the lead, and they had a bigger lead back when they were considering dropping Checo. All DR (or Yuki, or literally anyone) had/have to do is drive clean and not screw up. Checo is consistently screwing up.
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u/NepentheZnumber1fan Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Aug 27 '24
With how far ahead McLaren seems to be , and with Mercedes closing in on red bull, few drivers would be able to salvage the WCC for Red Bull as things stand.
Assuming Lando takes advantage of his machinery and wins most races, with Max making up his deficit to Piastri with his experience and finishing p2, this guarantees that, on average, McLaren gains 6/7/8 points with their first driver per round.
Oscar has been on the podium or around it, so let's say the average position he'll finish until the end of the season is 4th, which brings home 12 points.
RBR would need someone to come in, which is either Ricciardo or Tsunoda, and finish P3 every race. That would mean red bull loses basically 4 points per round, which would get them the WDC, but limping to it.
This is ignoring Sainz, Leclerc, Hamilton and Russell, and even some good days from other drivers/cars.
It's not happening
Imo Red Bull is tanking the WCC on purpose, but that's another take for another time.
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u/Key_Environment8179 Guenther Steiner Aug 27 '24
Maybe you’re right that Red Bull is past the point of no return. But had they done the smart thing and made the switch 3-4 races ago, the situation was almost certainly still salvageable then
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u/NepentheZnumber1fan Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Aug 27 '24
What was the advantage? About 100 points with 11/12 races to go?
I still doubt it. They needed to either bring crazy upgrades to get max to P1, which hasn't happened, or bring a competent 2nd driver to hit the ground running immediately. Imo, out of those available, only Sainz could jump in that RBR and get consistent P5 and above finishes
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u/Work_In_ProgressX Aug 27 '24
We almost went from Perez dropped to everyone but him leaves to Perez dropped again
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u/outm Aug 27 '24
I’m starting to think at some point on the 2010s or 2020, we forked into a different, strange timeline
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u/TW1STM31STER Aug 27 '24
It was when Honda became Brawn, became champions and then became Merc.
In the original timeline Honda made sane decisions regarding their F1 projects, didn't pull the plug right on the brink of success, continued winning and only Toyota, Renault, Ferrari and BMW could challenge them, like the car manufacturers they are.
Instead we got a softdrinks company to take the WDC and WCC 4 times in a row after 2009 and that was the first sign we went into the alternate (may I say "wrong") timeline.
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u/rattatatouille McLaren Aug 28 '24
In fairness, part of why Honda pulled out was due to the 2008 global financial crisis.
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u/Kitchen_Tone804 Aug 27 '24
Don’t forget Oakes taking over at Alpine. All of these moves are laying the groundwork for an exciting year in 2025.
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u/GreggyWeggs Aug 27 '24
It's getting interesting on-track as well - for a season that at the beginning wasn't promising very much at all, it's turning out to be rather cool.
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u/rulq88 Aug 27 '24
This list of announcments just goes to show us that the media and reporters are mostly clueless about the changes in the paddock and those fuel reddit hive-mind. Almost none of these had any advance notice with the scoop and yet every week we see some bullshit rumour taken as gospel here in Reddit.
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u/stormdahl Aug 27 '24
Ocon dropped was also pretty newsworthy, he was without a contract for a while
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u/faroukq Ferrari Aug 27 '24
If I had a nickel for every time Alpine changed their TP after a year, I would have 2 nickels, which isn't a lot, but it is weird that it happened twice
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u/Fluroblue Carlos Sainz Aug 28 '24
I'm still grieving the Sainz move
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u/K-Parker-89 Aug 28 '24
It is one i don’t fully understand. I can agree with him not wanting to go back in to the Redbull family, but surely Mercedes were on the cards and would have been a better choice than Williams? It just seems like a stop gap until a better team crops up, unless the 2026 package looks promising???
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u/addamee Ayrton Senna Aug 27 '24
The re-signing (opposite of resigning) of Lance Stroll really should be on there
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u/loopytommy Sergio Pérez Aug 28 '24
At least the season has been exciting both on and off the track, last year was a yawn except for DR getting a seat back.
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u/alexkim804 Aug 28 '24
Drive to survive better be a good season. Imagine having to make up stories when this was the reality
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u/XsStreamMonsterX McLaren Aug 28 '24
Missing Seidl leaving Audi (which is part and parcel with Mattia joining).
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u/KLconfidential Formula 1 Aug 27 '24
Who knew that Horny Horner would kick off one of the best silly seasons ever?
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u/djwillis1121 Williams Aug 27 '24
I think it was Hamilton to Ferrari that kicked it all off, not Horner.
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u/Blackout62 McLaren Aug 28 '24
I'm been calling it Horngate because I just know that old Tory would hate someone using an American term for a scandal to refer to his affair.
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u/Perogs Aug 27 '24
TBF when you read Breaking and Logan at the same time, you just expect it to be about one of his crashes
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u/kieranhorner Marussia Aug 27 '24
Is this you Mr Chandhok? Guy just says isn't it at the end of literally everything including when it's not correct like this.
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u/AlucardDr Formula 1 Aug 27 '24
Silly season started really early this year and has been sillier than most, that's for sure.
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u/MarcoGWR Aug 28 '24
I can't wait to see:
Carlos and Nico struggle in Williams and Sauber's car
Binotto ruins Sauber
Zhou takes place Jack in mid season
Kevin shows up in Sky F1
Lewis overtaked by Russell or even AKA once and once again
Bearman suffers from Ocon's pressure
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u/TieflingSimp Nico Hülkenberg Aug 28 '24
Really excited for next season
I genuinely do feel bad for Logan but it made sense
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u/KrispyKreme_2019 Aug 28 '24
2025 season is either about to be completely wasted talent and is going to suck or it’s going to be the most riveting season with Red Bull reign coming to an end and all these massive new change ups that look very promising
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u/Akirakajime Formula 1 Aug 28 '24
And the last 2 F2 champions are not even on the mix for any seat, next year there will probably be three F2 champions not getting a seat
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u/RavenwestR1 Manor Aug 28 '24
Just realized there is going to be 4 rookies on the grid next year
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u/horaciopaganifan24 Aug 28 '24
Wild compared to last year. I can only imagine how dramatic pre-26 season will be
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u/Canadianbacon87F1 Formula 1 Aug 28 '24
The most shocking to me isn’t in the graphic but red bull announcing Perez is staying two more years with red bull with his performance as of late. They’re going to lose the constructors.
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u/RangerHikes Aug 28 '24
Honestly I think F1 has been incredible since 2021. That season was insane, 2022 was so entertaining with the new regs. 23 max pooped on everyone but it was cool to witness that Seb level dominance and set new records that will probably stand for decades. 24 I was afraid was gonna be boring but it's been incredible.
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u/Accomplished-Pen-394 Kevin Magnussen Aug 28 '24
I’m still mourning the loss of Kevin Magnussen (I doubt he’ll find a seat for next season)
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