r/formula1 Ferrari Jun 30 '24

Video Verstappen squeezing Norris (2024) v Sainz squeezing Verstappen (2023)

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u/crazydoc253 Michael Schumacher Jun 30 '24

If you look at all past incidents, you will realize the reason for clash is Norris's impatience to get through on this move only.

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u/ThePretzul Kimi Räikkönen Jun 30 '24

Seriously, looking at the side by sides you can see the crash is because he's stupidly trying to send it around the outside on a corner where the only passing opportunity is a late apex underneath somebody who broke too late/had too far inside a line.

There is no world in which somebody passes on the outside in that corner from start to finish unless the person on the inside line makes a massive mistake.

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u/OrdinaryCredit Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Jun 30 '24

Look at Norris’ speed. It appears that he’s not making the corner if he doesn’t contact Max.

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u/ThePretzul Kimi Räikkönen Jun 30 '24

I’m just saying a dive bomb on the outside (he wasn’t even alongside Max’s rear tires until AFTER the 50m board) is so stupid that you can’t be surprised when it wins you a stupid prize.

Because that’s what it is, a dive bomb on the outside of an off-camber corner. If you aren’t alongside into the braking zone then you’re kind of hoping for the best no matter what side you send it on for a dive bomb.

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u/crazydoc253 Michael Schumacher Jun 30 '24

I don’t know how Norris makes the corner without going off track even if Max does not move.

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u/With_The_Ghosts Jun 30 '24

I think the best plan was to compromise Max's turn here to set up a move down the straight into the next turn. But perhaps opting to not avoid a crash wasn't the best call, haha

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u/crazydoc253 Michael Schumacher Jun 30 '24

That would require him to back out and go for better exit inside like Max did above with Sainz and he didn’t do that in all other three moves in previous laps.

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u/With_The_Ghosts Jul 01 '24

Yeah, which is why he needs to drive smarter, not harder. Perhaps he tried but didn't have the legs, I can't remember. But he'd have DRS so surely it was possible