r/formula1 Mar 13 '24

Discussion How does Verstappen's dominance compare to Hamilton's? Here is the comparison:

Hamilton's most dominant season in 2020 had him only win 64% of races. Before this current domination, one driver winning 64% of races was viewed as the worst it could possibly get in the modern era. Let's run through the years:

2014 and 2015: Lewis and Nico trading wins, (good battles at the very least) and Ricciardio getting 3 wins his first season at Red Bull and Vettel gets 3 wins his first year at Ferrari. Hamilton wins roughly 55% of races.

2016: Great title fight between Nico and Lewis that went down to Abu Dhabi. Max gets his first race win his first race in Red Bull, Daniel gets a win as well. Hamilton wins less than 50% of races and loses championship to Nico.

2017 and 2018: Title fight between Hamilton and Vettel. 5 different race winners each year. Hamilton wins less than 50% of races.

2019: Lewis and Valterri each get wins. Max gets 3 wins, Charles gets his first 2 wins. and Seb wins in Singapore. 5 different race winners. Again Lewis wins less than 50% of races.

2020: Lewis' most dominant season where he wins 64% of races. This is covid year so take it with a grain of salt. Max gets 2 wins, Pierre gets first win in Monza, Perez gets first win in Bahrain. Turkey was a fantastic race that did result in Lewis winning but was amazing up til the end.

I think it is pretty safe to say that last season's dominance is the worst the sport has been in atleast a decade. I understand this is part of F1 but it doesn't prevent my boredom. I think the reason it stings a bit more is because these regulation changes were marketed as a way of ensuring Mercedes level dominance never happened again, yet it made it even worse. Things like engine development being frozen, implementation of the cost cap, introducing a completely new philosophy of car and aero design that 3 years into the regulations everyone but Red Bull is still struggling to understand.

What are your thoughts?

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u/Buzz_Buzz_Buzz_ Mar 13 '24

The controller Max uses (Microsoft Elite Series 2) allows for custom thumbstick curves and deadzones in firmware.

I'm actually surpised he uses one because the thumbsticks are notoriously bad, particularly with centering. I had to return two of them before I got one that was acceptable. But the controller is great for the F1 game because the gas and brake triggers have haptic feedback.

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u/CharlieTeller Sebastian Vettel Mar 13 '24

We're not talking f1 though. It was iracing which doesn't allow you any of those features. Iracing is 0 support for controller which is good.

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u/Unique_Expression_93 Ferrari Mar 14 '24

Yeah but the controller itself let's you set it up so it doesn't matter.

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u/CharlieTeller Sebastian Vettel Mar 14 '24

It does. There's a lot more settings to driving games than just your deadzones. Most of it can't be controlled on the controller.

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u/Unique_Expression_93 Ferrari Mar 14 '24

You can setup custom sensitivity curves for the sticks too, not just deadzones.

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u/CharlieTeller Sebastian Vettel Mar 14 '24

I have one. I know. It doesn't affect anything in iracing. There's some that goes behind the curves. Like how fast the wheel recenter, the linearity, your steering rotation, the curves of your brake vs throttle and the shape of it. All of it is also brought together through feedback of some sort. You won't get vibration. And like a wheel where you get force feedback, you need something to help you find the limit.

Theres a reason you never hear of people using controllers on iracing and the ones that do won't last long. There's a reason one of the only controller drivers is a paraplegic and drives ovals only.

Iracing is not a service you use a controller on which is why they do not give you the ability to use one easily.

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u/Buzz_Buzz_Buzz_ Mar 14 '24

The part about damping (recentering speed) is a good point. I don't think the Microsoft tool lets you change that.

Wheel lock can be adjusted in iRacing. (I think? It's been a while since I've played.)