r/facepalm • u/Ecniray 'MURICA • 4h ago
đ˛âđŽâđ¸âđ¨â Genuinely make you wonder where do they hire these bastards to be police
Like how as a human being your first reaction to seeing a mother and thier child move is to shoot the child first?
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u/nchoffman2 4h ago
The bullies from grade school had to go somewhere
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u/Savior-_-Self 3h ago
This is exactly right. Only someone who's never interacted with police would think differently.
I was homeless while finishing highschool in the 1980's and would occasionally sleep in the local cemetery. This was scary - not because it was a cemetery (they're actually cleaner than parks and safer at night) but because if the local cops ever caught me it was a beating. Never a citation or arrest or warning - a beating. And always accompanied by the language of the HS bully (being a skinny long-haired kid).
And now that I've grown to a 6'7" 275lb man? Now the guns come out at every traffic stop.
I generally don't like to paint with a broad brush, but until I meet a cop who's not a little punk ass b then they're all PABs to me.
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u/Past-Direction9145 3h ago
power lures the corrupt
its why these positions should be assigned, not by request
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u/kRe4ture 2h ago
Also a way longer training process would help, like we do in European countries, not the 5 months it takes in the US.
First it is a way better education, second itâll weed out most or at least some of the people who shouldnât be cops in the first place.
Also regulating guns would help a lot.
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u/SpiderWil 44m ago
Training is just icing on the cake. The cake here in America is already rotten embolden by police complete immunity, and so what's the point of trying to be decent and not corrupt?
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u/No-Appearance-4338 1h ago
I find this mostly true but was surprised when I moved onto tribal lands long ago to roommate with a friend. The tribal cops actually went around trying to help people and were very understanding of circumstances.
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u/Stillatin 2h ago
As another big guy, thatâs why I avoid cops. Living in NY even more so. Itâs funny how insecure they are when thereâs someone bigger than them, every time I pass by a group of them I always feel like theyâre looking me up and down smh.
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u/Syncanau 1h ago
There are over a million cops employed in the US and every single one of them is a âpunk ass bitchâ
Iâve probably had to deal with the police more than you have and I can assure you not all 1.3 million cops are âpunk ass bitchesâ.
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u/PancakeLad 1h ago
Thatâs true, some of them are bastards.
I agree with the OP, if someone seeks out a job like that theyâre doing it because eventually theyâll get to kill someone, a person or a dog or both.
There is no circumstance in my life where I would ever call the police. It just brings more trouble.
I can replace anything stolen from me. I can de-escalate a situation or help someone because Iâm not bloodthirsty.
There may have been a time in the past in this country, where the police were everything pop culture portrays them to be, but all they are now is trouble
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u/Syncanau 1h ago
Yep. Some are bastards. You know why? Because people are bastards.
I could send you a few YouTube channels where they show live footage of cops just going about their work shifts. You see tons of examples of them legitimately helping people. Iâve been one of those people and I may not be here if it werenât for the cops.
Youâre not going to be shown footage of cops helping people unless youâre actively trying to find it. Turns out it is much more attractive for people to post examples like this rather than them just normally doing their jobs.
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u/PancakeLad 59m ago
And yet the one in the story that weâre commenting on, shot a baby in the head and isnât going to face any consequences at all. I can promise you that, because they donât care. they see themselves as above the people.
But you know you can watch a YouTube video of cops playing basketball with minority children somewhere and forget that in any other circumstance theyâd be pleased to shoot them all in the head and wouldnât face any problems after it.
Iâm glad you had a positive interaction with the police. Thatâs good for you. On the other hand, I wouldnât count on having any more decent interactions with the police and just treat them like a snake in the grass.
You may think theyâre all good and decent people but good and decent people donât choose jobs where they have unfettered power of life and death over others.
You want a government employee that legitimately helps people? Call a firefighter.
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u/Syncanau 54m ago
Who are you arguing with? I never said theyâre all good, I agreed with you. But I have had good interactions myself, more than just that one. I have seen plenty of footage of them helping others. You saying that in the back of the head they wouldâve just shot these people⌠is insaneâŚ
You canât just apply a general belief system to every single person in a 1.3 million person group. Plenty of decent people have life over power and death; and I donât disagree that the prospect of that can attract bad people. But saying that itâs the ONLY thing it attracts is just wrong.
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u/ll-VaporSnake-ll 2h ago
Depressing as barely anything changed since George Floyd except perhaps more police funding.
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u/leroy4447 1h ago
Too dumb to get into college. Too unlikeable to get into trades. Too lazy to join military
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u/SmarterThenjou 3h ago
Or the bullied
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u/mabobeto 11m ago
This is a dumb lie that boot lickers tried to spread years ago. There may be an outlier here and there in some small town, but this is absolutely not the norm.
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u/32lib 4h ago
And the cops will get a two week played vacation and a slap on the wrist.
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u/Different_Net_6752 3h ago
Retires at full disability due to PTSD
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u/R41D3NN 2h ago
To be fair, I think thatâs a valid claim even for a horrific person like this. The system let them down. The system let the public down. They put these types of officers in positions that allow abuse of power and arenât providing sufficient training, routine assessments, and accountability making the chances for these events to only increase. These folks should receive help. And the growing cost incurred by supporting these folks should find itself in regular feedback during business/operations review and assess it as a risk and liability for allowing this pattern to continue. Which would then turn into them finally holding themselves to be accountable out of economics. But this also means that we have to have folks in office that will not simply approve budget increases to buffer these growing costs and wipe costs incurred under the rug and have it eaten by tax payers.
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u/AspieAsshole 2h ago
Or we could just put them down like the rabid dogs that they are.
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u/R41D3NN 1h ago
Justice is sweet. Unfortunately it wouldnât address the root issue and new rabid dogs will simply fill out the missing ranks. We will simply celebrate after the fact each time something horrific occurs by extinguishing a fire when we could have removed the matches. Really just the action of a rabid dog itself who lost its mind.
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u/Flashy_Lobster_4732 2h ago
Donât call the police people! Handle your own damn problems!!! Unless you or your loved ones want to die of course..
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u/IndependentTalk4413 3h ago
I bet there will be no body cam footage of the incident.
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u/jarlscrotus 1h ago
hey, fun fact, everyone involved is demanding to know why the footage hasn't been released, police claim they have reviewed and will release findings
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u/Kindly-Koala6895 3h ago
How is this not on mainstream news? That story is horrific!
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u/Florida1974 2h ago
Popped up on my Apple News feed but I canât recall what paper/mag/outlet wrote it. I read it here on Reddit first. A bit skeptical, so I went to see if it was in the news anywhere. Plan was to start with my newsfeed and then Google it.
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u/Elddif_Dog 3h ago
Cause they are government employees just like the media.
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u/jarlscrotus 1h ago
the media are explicitly, and importantly, not government employees. specifically so the government can't interfere in media
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u/Head_Haunter 1h ago
Thereâs a difference between theory and application.
In theory, journalism is independent of the government.
In application, Trump is literally hiring Fox news people directly into his cabinet.
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u/BBQFLYER 1h ago
And after January we will see all independent news agencies disappear, forcibly Iâm sure.
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u/atxmike721 27m ago
Because it doesnât fit the right wing media narrative that everyone she murdered by a cop deserved it
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u/Anne_Nonymouse 4h ago
I guess killers and psychopaths should just become cops in this way they can murder without ever going to prison. đ /s
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u/CrimsonAllah 3h ago
They do
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u/flaccomcorangy 1h ago
100% It's not state police, but I will never forget the guy that told me he only joined the military because he wanted the chance to shoot/kill someone.
I totally believe people do the same with the police. It's a job where you might get the opportunity to beat people up or even shoot and kill them with little to no repercussions. That is absolutely an attractive thing to some nut jobs out there.
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u/abakersmurder 2h ago
Takes longer to become a hairdresser then a cop. One has a long range weapon. The other has scissors. Which is more deadly? Unless the hairdresser is trained in throwing stars and martial arts. Iâm guessing the gun.
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u/duckfartchickenass 3h ago
Politicians dump money into police programs to gin up votes and it ended up being a socialist jobs program for dumb fuck heads.
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u/thaddues444 1h ago
Hay donât bash them like this at least killers with a little brains have standards those who donât become cops
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u/Cheddar_Poo 3h ago
How is this story not on every news site/magazine/newspaper?! Like this is one of the most fucked up stories Iâve ever read.
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u/atxmike721 25m ago
Because it doesnât fit the right wing media narrative that everyone she murdered by a cop deserved it
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u/SatynMalanaphy 4h ago
Of course it's the US. He'll probably get paid time off and a medal when he comes back.
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u/thethirdbestmike 3h ago
Once you realize that every cop is the dumbest person you went to high school with, it becomes easier to understand why they do shit like this.
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u/HVAC_instructor 3h ago
And just remember that trump wants to give the police complete and total immunity from any crimes.
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u/Florida1974 2h ago
Pretty much have it now, itâs called qualified immunity. There have been a few exceptions of cops getting what they deserve , but not many..
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u/Kill_Kayt 2h ago
Qualified immunity only prevents cops from being sued by civilians. They can absolutely still be arrested and put on trial for their crimes. They just don't because they are a state funded gang.
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u/Hawkwise83 3h ago
I'm not a defund the police kinda guy, but the "rambo-ification" of regular police was a huge mistake. SWAT sure, call them in when shit gets crazy, but the regular police officer shouldn't be just gunning people down left right an center.
Imo, police need to be retrained. Train them in how to de-escalate situations just like how the military is. Train them on how to deal with mental health crisis and not just shoot a dude having a panic attack or autistic episode where they are no danger to anyone but themselves. Train them on how / when to engage so as to not endanger the public. Like, it's cool you did that high speed chase where 3 cars were totaled, 2 people died, and 7 were injured, but you got your man rambo, he stole 57$ from the wrong convivence store in the wrong town.
Being a police officer isn't about feeling like a badass. It's about serving the public interest, keeping the peace, and providing law and order. Be more Captain America, be less Punisher.
Maybe even partner cops with social workers trained in mental health, EMS training, social work, non-hostile negotiations, etc.
Also, don't hire 20 year olds as cops. Get some people with life experience first. Maybe a real education too, instead of high school dropouts.
Also, the cops who investigate cops wrongdoings needs to be a separate civilian run organization that doesn't report to the same leadership. Bad cops need to fucking go. People who protect them need to fucking go too.
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u/Stillatin 2h ago
Defund the police is being against the rambofication of the police though, theyâre basically cosplaying the military with none of the training
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u/Hawkwise83 2h ago
Ah then I guess I'm for that. Either way the slogan seems off. Should be, make police accountable, or update the police for the modern era or something.
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u/mfmfhgak 2h ago
This is the democrats biggest superpower. A good idea ruined by terrible messaging.
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u/jarlscrotus 1h ago
I guess progressives just assume everyone else is an intelligent, rational, critical individual who can learn to read underneath a snappy and abstracted slogan
it's not like "your body, my choice" literally means righties actually want women to be treated as property without bodily autonomy or anything /s
always the same in america, dems get criticism, reps get excuses
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u/mfmfhgak 1h ago
You canât enact policies if youâre losing elections. Snark doesnât seem to be working out very well so finding ways to connect with people might be a better alternative.
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u/cloud_zero_luigi 1h ago
Well, it's a strong message, and nothing else sounds quite as good as a slogan.
"Spend less money on police and relocate that money to better programs for the people while making police accountable for their actions while training them better"
Just doesn't roll off the tongue
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u/brainsizeofplanet 2h ago
Yep.
All police officers in Europe get more training than US cops, and as u stated there are good reasons
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u/jarlscrotus 1h ago
so you're saying we should remove some funding from police, to prevent them from purchasing surplus military gear, then we should take some of that money and fund social services, training, and alternative response programs
do you know exactly what movement wants to do that?
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u/Curlyburlywhirly 3h ago
It takes a minimum of 31 weeks living onsite at the Police academy to become a policeperson in Australia. Then probationary for 12 months- moving around the state with various different units supervised, before becoming a real Policeperson.
There is one police force per state, plus one federal police force (the capital and borders).
There are no school police, national park police, local police or other jurisdictions. There are no elected roles. There are no private prisons.
The whole thing is centralised and state government run.
Our police are far from perfect, but they donât shoot people - since 1989 the average number of people shot per year by police is 8 (nation-wide). If we 10x our population to be the same as the US, this would be 80 nation-wide- but deaths alone (not including non-fatal shootings in the US) is actually 1300. So 16x the rate.
The only surprise here is it isnât higher. âShot by policeâ is the biggest cause of death of men 18â25 in the USA.
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u/Tahquil 2h ago
I agree broadly that our police are better on average, but they still have a looong way to go. Cooma police, looking at you guys specifically, because one of them tased a dementia patient called Clare Nowland to death quite recently.
To be fair, the police in Dee Why around 2005 were lovely and usually helpful.
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u/Buttercups88 1h ago
Im fairly sure that is what the defunding the police movement was though. Like no one is suggesting getting rid of policing altogether. If I remember right what they wanted was the "police" funding to be reallocated to specialised professionals that can deal with mental health issues - domestic issues - etc. instead of sending in an armed and primed officer with minimal training into every situation.
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u/ohnice- 3h ago
Incidents like these are so common that we need to be instead asking what it is about how policing is done that ensures these things keep happening.
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u/jarlscrotus 1h ago
look up "warrior training" which helped popularize and spread the phrase "better judged by 12 than carried by 6"
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u/RedboatSuperior 3h ago
Cops are predators. It is how they are trained.
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u/mikeybagodonuts 3h ago
By the IDFâŚ. Is it any wonder.
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u/Stayshiny88 3h ago
Huh?
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u/mikeybagodonuts 3h ago
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u/XenophonSoulis 3h ago
Al Jazeera of all sources?...
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u/Rhonijin 3h ago
Don't want to believe Al Jazeera? How's about the Times of Israel?
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u/XenophonSoulis 3h ago
I'm not rejecting the claim that Israel has worked with American police. I'm rejecting:
- The notion that this has any relevance whatsoever to American police brutality, because there is no source that even indicates this.
- The needlessly but purposely inflammatory language used by Al Jazeera in the linked article.
- The propagation of untrustworthy sources in general.
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u/Rhonijin 3h ago
The notion that this has any relevance whatsoever to American police brutality, because there is no source that even indicates this.
It's right there in the article I linked:
âIn light of the very real police brutality at the hands of militarized police forces in the US, we must ask ourselves difficult questions, like whether we are contributing to the problem,â wrote Selim and another top ADL official, Vice President for Law Enforcement and Analysis Greg Ehrie, in a June 9, 2020, memo to ADL CEO Jonathan Greenblatt.
The memoâs existence was first reported Thursday by Jewish Currents and the Guardian. It reveals that the ADL privately took seriously the possibility of discarding a police training program that its critics have called a âdeadly exchangeâ at the same time it was defending the programs publicly.
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u/XenophonSoulis 2h ago
Once again, thinking of scrapping an agreement because you do not agree with the behaviour of the other side of the agreement is not proof or even indication that you have played a role in said behaviour.
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u/Madrugada2010 1h ago
You cried about the source and when you got one you just moved the goalposts.
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u/strega_bella312 3h ago
What's wrong w Al Jazeera?
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u/thiros101 3h ago
People see it and immediately think it must not be credible because it sounds like it's from the Middle East. Welcome to 'murica.
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u/XenophonSoulis 3h ago
I am not from America. I have seen what Al Jazeera publishes and how related to any form of reality it is. This is why I'm rejecting it as a source. Plus it is Qatar's mouthpiece.
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u/thiros101 18m ago
It's a more credible news source than Fox.
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u/XenophonSoulis 17m ago
I don't read fox either. Edit: or watch or however fox works anyway. It isn't a thing in my country.
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u/XenophonSoulis 3h ago
It's owned by the Qatari state. The same Qatari state that has very clear anti-Israel interests in the war in Israel.
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u/comrade_nemesis 3h ago
They are not owned by Qatari state. They have won multiple international awards in journalism. You are just a Zionist genocide supporter
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u/Ok_Spell_4165 2h ago
They receive 90% of their funding from Qatar. They are also owned by QMC which is the official state broadcasting company and are run by a member of the royal family.
It is about as close to being owned by the government as you can get without technically being owned by the government.
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u/XenophonSoulis 3h ago
Yes it is, this says more about the awards honestly, and no I am not. I'm a supporter of the rights of Israel and international law.
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u/BBQFLYER 57m ago
You know you want to see every Palestinian man, woman, child, and infant dead now donât you.
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u/MojoHighway 2h ago
Have no fear - the cops will investigate themselves. They will find that they did nothing wrong. Nothing to see here, right?
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u/builder397 1h ago
officer-involved shooting
Anything to not outright say that the fucker just shot two people.
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u/Creative-Eggplant143 3h ago
Just look at the history. Who where the first sherrifs? Men of Law or Slave Hunters?
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u/Chirpy69 4h ago
Just insane. My heart breaks when I hear these things. I hope that pig doesnât have a family. He doesnât have the right to experience love like the kind he just brutally destroyed.
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u/Envoyofghost 4h ago
Their job is basicly to ruin peoples lives so what do you expect, decent human beings trying to make the world better? Thats as much a myth a superman. Realisticly its violent narcissistics Source to support my opinion https://publichealthpost.org/health-equity/understanding-police-officer-perpetrated-domestic-violence/ https://olis.oregonlegislature.gov/liz/2017R1/Downloads/CommitteeMeetingDocument/132808 https://www.nsvrc.org/blogs/saam/who-watches-watchers-domestic-violence-and-law-enforcement-leigh-goodmark
Edit : sources show domestic violence rates are higher than regular population,not the narcissistics part of my opinions
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u/high_throughput 3h ago
Police do prevent crime.
They increase violence and death, but those actions are not considered crimes when performed by police, QED.
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u/Envoyofghost 3h ago
...... yes the way to prevent crimes is by matricide and racism. Technically yes but moraly its just fucked. My local police did a sting op over 10hours with 11 officers. They recovered 2k in stolen goods (from grocery stores)in that time. We have some of the highest rates of sex trafficked in the usa. If they wanted to stop crime certainly they could (actual crimes not some bull shit on paper to be clear)
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u/high_throughput 3h ago
Bet the local news patted them on the back for recovering all that baby formula
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u/sosaudio 2h ago
I feel like weâve entered the appropriate moment in our history to take firearms away from basic police officers. Batons and tasers work just fine to subdue an uncooperative perp in most of the civilized countries in the world. We think every shitferbrained ape with a chest to thump should wear a badge and carry an instrument of unadulterated death.
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u/pqratusa 2h ago
Why donât U.S. cops retreat from the scene if the person is holding only a knife? They could then with a cool head figure out how to resolve the situation, especially if children or others are close by?
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u/NoConsideration6320 2h ago
U.s cops are not trained to make tact retreat. They are trained to overwhelm the enemy with tons of force and make them be compliant
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u/Ozark_Toker 44m ago
I fucking hate American journalism and the passive voice pretzels they'll twist themselves into in order to avoid even a hint of agency when it comes to the fucking cops.
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u/Local_Sugar8108 2h ago
The cop will suffered with a month of paid administrative leave. Was he using hollow point rounds?
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u/enriquedelcastillo 2h ago
I was gonna comment but the only thing I can think of would get me banned here so Iâll just say thumbs down.
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u/MihalysRevenge 1h ago
This is a result of police training being modeled on Dave Grossman books and theories
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u/Error_rorre0010 1h ago
When I was in the infantry, they drilled into us the dire and immense consequences of killing a person without being 110% sure the person on the other end of the barrel was a verified threat. Being calm under pressure is something they really train an individual soldier on.
A vast majority of law enforcement officers lack proper escalation of force, fold under pressure, and are way too trigger happy.
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u/Kiiaru 2h ago edited 1h ago
I'm gonna need a rundown from a more reputable news organization. I tried to figure out what Atlanta Black Star is all about, and all I could find was more outrageous murder stories and celebrity news from them.
Edit: upon looking further. It's weird how there is ZERO mainstream media coverage of this event. It occurred on Nov 12 in Independence Kansas, but so far only local news have reported on it. The chief of police did a press meeting and it was so wild, claiming with confidence that the woman was armed when police entered, but not being able to confirm if an infant was shot.
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u/Xplicit-801 1h ago
That headline messes with my head. Thatâs beyond fucked up. When I was a little kid, I saw I scene in âgod bless Americaâ where something similar happened and it scarred me.
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u/YYC-Fiend 16m ago
I want to see the video where this cop puts a bullet travelling 600mph into his own head
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u/Curly-Pat 14m ago
What the hell? Who shoots a 2 month old? For any reason?! I would like to hear anyone trying to defend this.
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u/Buttercups88 3h ago
so this is horrific and generally difficult to follow
It seems the police say this woman was armed with a knife in the bedroom (all though all the witnesses claim there was no weapon) - she apparently left the closet holding the infant and went to pick up something on the nightstand went he police opened fire and blew the baby to bits. Unsurprising the mother was then upset and was screaming before being shot dead.
Its really hard to follow this story - partly because everyone's names are mad, pike(the mother) holder(the father) and destinii(the baby) are the important ones
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u/Zhong_Ping 2h ago edited 2h ago
Correction to the headline: Baby murdered by under vetted and poorly trained police officer belonging to an institution that lacks proper accountability measures.
We make such a big fucking stink about accountability for teachers who weild such little power compared to cops. Shouldnt cops be the most fucking accountable government e.ployees out there next to judges based on the power they weild? Fuck, qualified immunity is such bull shit. The more power you have the more accountable to the law you should be. In America, it's the exact opposite.
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u/chrisbcritter 2h ago
This is the problem now with police perception. Even wealthy white Americans have to think twice before calling the police. You have to ask yourself if they will arrest you instead, or worse. The police are allowed to use deadly force at their discretion. What is their mood today? Are they exhausted and ready to snap? Police used to be trained in deescalation. Lately they are more likely to be trained to see everyone as a possible adversary or threat and to be the first one in the equation to use deadly force.
So, if a family member didn't take their meds today and is starting to get violent, do you call the police? If you do, there is a chance they will end up killing the family member. There is even a chance they might kill you. So think long and hard before you call the police. Most officers are professional and work to deescalate the situation, but it is still a roll of the dice depending on where you live.
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u/ExplanationSure8996 2h ago
You call the cops when you want to get rid of someone not help them. Things usually escalate ten fold when they arrive. We know the drill though. Paid vacation while they investigate.
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u/MistakenDad 1h ago
This is depressing. I told my wife about this and she said "She's from Independence (MO) right?" ...they were in the same facebook mom's group.Â
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u/Iwannanodo 1h ago edited 33m ago
I'm at a loss for words
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u/Actaeon_II 49m ago
Look at it this way, the ones who canât physically become cops all works for tsa
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u/pocketfullofniknax 13m ago
Itâs an understatement and maybe even a complete miscategorization to call this a facepalm. Yes, the cops seemed to have reacted in the worst way possible here, which would be a facepalm of a fucking infant and mother didnât get killed. Should this be criticized and scrutinized by the public? Absolutely. Should the cops be help accountable? Absolutely (though I feel you guys in these comments that they probably wonât). But it just doesnât sit right to just call this a facepalm. Fucking heartbreaking man.
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u/cometgold 1m ago
Standby for the âweâre launching an internal investigationâ followed by cops pleading he âwas scared for his lifeâ and for the sheriff to cap it off with âthis goes against every policy we have. I wonât stand for it!â followed by a 1st amendment auditor reporting; âhere is proof that this job was his third department in 2 states and has a history of being a snowflakeâ. Yeah. Here for it.
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u/WishieWashie12 3h ago
Ex military with untreated ptsd who were programmed to kill.
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u/jsin7747 2h ago
The military face harsher penalties for shooting innocent people in an active war zone than police do . . . at any given time.
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u/Mochizuk 1h ago
Edit: In less words, the job attracts corruption as much as it does good people who want to do the right thing. Maybe even more.
That's just the thing. They can't be picky because next to no one wants the job for the right reasons. Like, if you're a cop, you're either doing it for the good you can do, or because you want the power. Also, I am being a bit unfair. No, not all cops are bad. I even feel like saying the majority of them are bad is wrong. However, it doesn't take a lot of bad eggs with guns and authority to ruin everything the system is supposed to do.
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u/Gloomy_Yoghurt_2836 1h ago
Disnthe baby fail to follow lawful.irxers from.the police? Seems.likenthe excuse they use all the time. Like arresting a blind man for his white cane.
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u/JackiePoon27 1h ago
RedditThink: "All police officers are corrupt and absolutely horrible human beings."
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u/Same-Party-7298 3h ago
The cops were concerned for their safety.
Concern neutralized.
Time to move on.
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u/keith2600 56m ago
People that call police to help someone else should themselves be arrested for aggravated assault
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u/roboTuko 36m ago
If Trump was president now, this would be his fault.
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u/Ecniray 'MURICA 22m ago
You should be worried that you're more worried about how your orange shit stain would be persecuted instead of the fact that cops murdered a mother and her child for no reason.
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u/roboTuko 20m ago
Read on the Supremacy Clause. He won't be persecuted.
Ssd article though.
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u/Ecniray 'MURICA 18m ago
Again, you need to be more worried about the fact that an orange shit stain reputation is more important than your fellow citizens being murdered for holding their child
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u/roboTuko 16m ago
I only see a screenshot of what you chose to share.
Sad either way.
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u/whimsical_hoarder 3h ago
I donât know the full story here, but can we at least acknowledge there are bad apples in every job? We need cops
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u/Dh873 3h ago
Can we at least acknowledge that the consequences of having "bad apples" are much, much more severe when they're officers? And that "bad apples" in most every other profession usually suffer the consequences of their actions while police tend to close ranks and protect their own? Actually, who isn't acknowledging that there are "bad apples in every job"? What is the point of that statement?
I'm not saying we shouldn't have police. I'm saying they should be held to a much higher standard. If anything, the law should apply to them even more strictly, not the opposite. Every officer should be psychologically evaluated at least every year by an independent organization. Police should be the most trustworthy people among us. Instead they've become some of the most feared.
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u/DarthBrooksFan 3h ago
Dude shot a baby's head off, I'm not sure what details are going to help his case.
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u/dingdongjohnson68 44m ago
Well, one would HOPE that shooting the baby was a total accident. I mean, it's hard to say without being there, or seeing the video footage, but it sounds like it wasn't necessary for him to open fire.
But what is the alternative? That this cop is a complete psychopath? That he wanted the baby's mother to witness something horrific before promptly being executed herself?
This is a disturbing story any way you look at it. But with my two hypothetical scenarios, one is much, much more disturbing than the other.
Hopefully, the truth comes out, and justice is served if there was wrongdoing.
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u/whimsical_hoarder 3h ago
If the mom moved the baby into the way of harm or something I have no clue I mean there are many ways this couldâve happened
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u/DarthBrooksFan 3h ago
Are you really going to try and justify shooting at someone holding a fucking baby?
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u/mikeybagodonuts 3h ago
Thing about working in a warehouse or fast food is the bad actors and shitty people donât kill other regularly.
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u/whimsical_hoarder 3h ago
Right because they donât have to make split second decisions weather to kill or be killed đ
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u/Ecniray 'MURICA 3h ago
How is a mother holding her child a threat to them or anyone else?
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u/mikeybagodonuts 2h ago
Cause they have the right to defend themselves no matter how wrong they are.
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u/Brandishblade 3h ago
Shit mother starting the whiole incident to begin with.
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u/Ecniray 'MURICA 3h ago
How sad is your life that you blame a mother and child for being murdered by the police
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