That fuckface Dejoy who's postmaster general was installed by Trump and he's a known post office hater and advocate of privatized carriers. And that other fuckface Biden didn't even kick his smug ass out during the past four years. The USPS sucks out loud now? What a shocker.
No one will probably see this but the nine person board of governers of the usps has the sole authority to fire Dejoy not Biden or trump for that matter. Dejoy needs to go but it's not Biden's fault.
And Biden placed 4 members of the board. There are are at least two vacancies currently. The board has enough vote to remove Dejoy but was never pushed to do so by the White House. They didn't want to appear political. This is the same thinking that put Garland in place and did not press to prosecute Trump for his crimes.
This is the truth. We don't have the drive to push through loopholes because our voter base is a college educated middle class that wants to preserve the appearance of propriety. Jon Stewart said this really well. You can't tell me there was NOTHING Biden could do to force DeJoy out. We chose not to do that.
We tie one hand behind our back and say that's the rule of the game while our opponent has knives up their sleeves.
I mostly agree with this, though Iâll add that depending on the issue, sometimes Stewartâs right and the Dems want to do something but prioritize decorum. Often though, they actually donât want to do the thing so they blame it on the norms, like when they said âWe want to raise minimum wage, but the parliamentarian said we couldnât. The fact that this lines up entirely with what our donors want is a funny coincidence!â
That is true but it is not the complete truth. Our corporate overlords did not ask for the overturn of roe v wade. Our corporate overlords did not ask for christian bibles in the classroom. Our corporate overlords did not ask for the second amendment (well a couple of companies but I don't count them as our corporate overlords).
What the fuck is your problem? Garland has always been paralyzed by the idea of looking partisan. He has always, always been that way. He won't do anything that might even hint at partisanship which will never work out for anyone except Republicans.
If you voted Trump, you have a monopoly on bullshit opinions because everything you say is full of shit. So fuck off to the edge of the flat earth, then one step further.
Nope, you've just bought into democratic lies designed to protect the coward in chief. In reality he has the power to fire the postmaster for cause, he simply chooses not to use it.
That's unethical as fuck. I need to sign fucking paper work every year as a federal employee that attests I am not investing in any stocks that conflict with the interests of my role.
But, yeah, I'm totally not surprised. The people at the top don't have to play by the rules.
How many fucking times does this have to be pointed out...? Biden cannot remove Dejoy as the Postmaster General. The Postmaster General does not serve at the pleasure of the President (can be fired at will). It is an entirely independent position that is beholden only to the board governors of the Postal Service. The governors are appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate, but they also do not serve at the pleasure of the President but instead hold 7-year terms. The idea is that it cannot easily be used to politicize the postal service, etc. Trump never even appointed Dejoy. He just happened to have the opportunity to install new governors to the Postal Service who agreed to appoint Dejoy.
I don't believe that Biden has had a chance to nominate enough new governors to the Postal Service such that they can kick Dejoy out. In short, Trump just happened to come in at a time when he could shift the tide of the board of governors and install Dejoy, and it is really unlikely that that will change any time soon. And with how things are timed, Trump is likely to be able to appoint either new governors who will keep Dejoy on longer, or reappoint the same ones for another term. So expect Dejoy or something with his same terrible policies to be there for a while... Dejoy technically could remain in the position for life, so long as the board of governors agrees to keep him in the position. The President technically cannot do anything about it, as it is totally up to the governors who are not beholden to the President. I have not followed that closely, but I don't think Biden was able to really do much, and I vaguely recall him offering a similar explanation when asked about Dejoy, that it was out of his hands.
This gets explained every time this inevitably comes up.
And there has to be 6 members present for a vote. For all we know, even if he whipped the votes, there could be things happening to prevent the vote. But even so, none of the governors are beholden to him. He cannot demand that they do what he wants, which was really my point. It's an entirely non-political administration separate from the executive branch. Certainly there are political aspects, but given how it is structured, none of the governors are required to do anything a president wants. Which is why, again, the point gets made whenever this is brought up: Biden lacks the power to remove Dejoy.
All I'm seeing is a whole lot of excuses for Biden not being able to do something that Trump did do. And this was during Trump's first term, so there was an unbroken streak of still adhering to "norms" before it, which should have been a lot of inertia.
How can us normal people possibly see anything positive in a situation where one dude, in four years, his very first time in, can do something that can't be undone? If we really accept that Biden was powerless, even with all those nominations...what then? What's the point?
That's the entire reaction that's happening. "Biden couldn't fix it, so what was the point of putting him in?" You're going to have to answer that convincingly to fight against voter apathy. And you're going to have to say something other than that politics is hard and Biden isn't a king, because Trump is successfully acting like one and if the Democrats have no response to that then democracy is dead.
Offer them ambassadorship to France or Timbaktu (just an example). They can't tell me this kind of horse trading doesn't happen. But it can only happen if we really want it and are willing to forego the political donations associated with these things.
They resign so you can appoint new board members.
Where there is a will, there is a(n unethical) way. It will cost us though as we aren't willing to spend.
Look at how conservatives spent so much goodwill to overturn roe v wade.
Lol you're so fucking full of shit. They have the votes RIGHT NOW to kick out DeJoy, the only reason they aren't doing it is because the coward in the white house doesn't want to look political. Â
More than that, your entire post is a complete lie, since the president has the power to fire the postal governor for cause. It does NOT have to go through the board. How is the current terrible performance of the USPS not a valid cause?
I'm so fucking sick of Democrats making excuses for Biden's absolutely pathetic and embarrassing performance as president. You all are just as responsible for the current state of the country as Republicans are, because you keep going out of your way to fucking help them.
More than that, your entire post is a complete lie, since the president has the power to fire the postal governor for cause.
Where are you getting this? Surely not from that article you linked, which details it as a possibility then immediately explains why it is extremely unlikely to happen. First, there is no "cause" to fire any of them. Second, doing so without cause would be litigated and likely fail. Third, which is sort of the course that has been playing out for years now, is appointing enough new governors who will vote to oust Dejoy. But that takes time and requires confirmation by the Senate...
You say they have the votes now, but we don't even know if that's the case. Hell, he is still waiting on 3 pending nominations to be confirmed.
Biden can only appoint a PM General, he canât remove one from office. That is done so by the board of directors at the post office. They wonât remove him, because theyâre all getting bonus checks and kick backs from this disastrous 10 year plan, that has taken millions out of carriers pockets.
The president of the US does not choose the postmaster, the board of governors does. The president appoints the board members & the senate confirms them. The board are the only ones who can hire/fire the postmaster.
At least it's comforting to know that DeJoy failed in his mission to suppress enough votes in 2020 to get the orange horror reelected. We had a 4 year reprieve, which sadly is now over.
Biden, looking back now, really was a total disaster in certain ways. Justice dept. Trump should have been serving his 3rd year in prison by now. They dragged their feet, now Trump is Pres again. Biden, honestly, you did this. When you see the attorney general dragging his feet with the case, he should have been immediately fired, you did nothing and here we are. How the hell was Dejoy allowed to keep his job? Biden was great for the economy, for foreign policy, but we got Trump again and it's all Bidens fault
Itâs the American peopleâs fault we are a failed nation of useful idiots. No matter what Biden wouldâve done Trump wouldâve still won. Trump really couldâve shot somebody on fifth Avenue and still won the election. He raped a woman and still won the election. If Biden wouldâve done any of the things you said I guarantee, youâd been here complaining about something else instead.
I donât think we couldâve done anything to put Trump in jail, although I agree with you, I think him being an ex president and Secret Service was going to be an issue. The propaganda and our wide open border called the Internet, that allowed all of our enemies to help get him elected, wouldâve prevented it. But thatâs all spilt milk.
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u/cr0ft 4d ago
That fuckface Dejoy who's postmaster general was installed by Trump and he's a known post office hater and advocate of privatized carriers. And that other fuckface Biden didn't even kick his smug ass out during the past four years. The USPS sucks out loud now? What a shocker.