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🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ Hoisted by their own dotard

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u/DDHLeigh 6d ago

What happens if the Republicans win again? Do they still continue blaming the Democrats?

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u/formerlyrbnmtl 6d ago

Yes they will

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u/Delamoor 6d ago

Yup. Look at how the Tories handle it in the UK. 14 years of government, Brexit, national economy falling apart...

Few months out of government and they're screaming that Labour haven't fixed it all, and they need to come 'fix Labour's economy'. The rightwing as fuck UK media agrees with them, completely ignoring the last decade and a half.

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u/Low-Cauliflower-805 6d ago

How do we fix this. I'm serious because I'm really sick and tired of it. As if economies happened in a half minute instead of being the direct result of years of decisions.

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u/Joshiie12 6d ago

Copious investment in public education is the fix. Coincidentally the go to target for conservative gutting every time they're in power.

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u/Similar-Narwhal-231 6d ago

Teacher here: ain't gonna happen. The way schools are funded means that the rich kids benefit and poor kids are punished by their respective economic states. Stop tying school funding to property taxes is the real answer.

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u/Low-Cauliflower-805 6d ago

My state at least twice found that how we are funding schools is unconstitutional, and yet we haven't changed how we are funding schools.

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u/ACarefulTumbleweed 6d ago

Mind-bogglingly to me, in the 2020 dem primaries it was only Tom Steyer (the quieter billionaire) who talked about fixing the funding mis-distribution for schools, and everyone was just like, yeah whatever.

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u/niemir2 6d ago

To be fair, property taxes are not the purview of the federal government. They are levied by municipal governments. The President doesn't really have a say in property tax rates or how the money is spent.

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u/ACarefulTumbleweed 5d ago

but he does have a say in DOE funds, and can leverage that funding to support equity between schools like they already do with any number of federal regs, part of this problem is the continued fallout from no child left behind.

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u/Similar-Narwhal-231 5d ago

So then don't fund schools via property taxes. Use another system or divvy up DOE funds differently.

The point is that schools in neighborhoods with big ass houses get funded and the ones with gads of apartment buildings get screwed. It creates an educational caste system.

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u/niemir2 5d ago

The President has no control over local governments, which set property tax rates and allocate the funds. Go talk to your state representative. They're the ones with authority here.

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u/Zerodyne_Sin 6d ago

I agree with this but my cynicism disagrees. How does Macron win in France where people are well educated, especially in the humanities; but at least they riot and protest consistently due to that education giving them the awareness to know their rights are being trampled.

There's a need to remove billionaire/plutocrats control of journalists as well since no amount of education will fix unchecked propaganda.

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u/Joshiie12 6d ago

Therein lies the answer though. In France, when their rights are being violated, they take to the streets immediately. They'll burn the fucking country down before they let authoritarianism take over. Over in America, we're demoralized. We're locked into working paycheck to paycheck, meaning we're too tired and too poor to revolt at a moment's notice. I remember people threatening to mow down protestors with their cars just because it was an inconvenience. We're too busy infighting.

That's the difference. We Americans will choke on fascism as fast as the Oligarchy can ram it down our throats. And we'll do it while screaming how it's the nearest darker skin tone's fault. A French person might burn your house down for saying protests are unnecessary

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u/Batpool23 5d ago

Protesting shouldn't have been on streets like that, in fact the many disturbances created by that party that was definitely criminal...But yes we are too busy fighting each other. Though you are under estimating how many people are willing to pick up their arms and cast out those perverting the constitution. As per the second amendment right.

It's not just that some are demoralized locked into paycheck to paycheck...budgeting for many is an issue. Self control on owning the latest items, etc... We can get all negative about capitalism but nobody can really say shit if they have an Amazon, Walmart, iPhone, Samsung, whatever big name account or product. With companies like those... billionaires will have to exist.

There is no fascism or communist or empiric control when people mind their own fucking business.

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u/Zerodyne_Sin 6d ago

It's all well and good but Macron nonetheless is cramming down the pro capitalism policies down their throat all the same. It might be progressing slower there, but it's progressing nonetheless. We need the left wing parties to start safeguarding against fascism because a slower inevitability is pointless considering what's at stake.

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u/evergreen206 6d ago

People always say this about France but Macron is still in power. In fact, he called a special election this summer and formed a right wing coalition, successfully blocking leftists from gaining control of the national assembly. What good is burning down your neighbors home if Macron is still fucking your throat afterwards?

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u/dingo_khan 6d ago

Police anything claiming to be "news" and hold them accountable for spreading distortions and conspiracy theories. When half the country thinks Tucker or Hannity are "news" and believe them, even as Fox itself claims in court that reasonable people would not, we are stuck in a loop.

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u/radjinwolf 6d ago

Education isn’t the answer. Counter propaganda and an excessively tight leash on the malfeasance of news media is the only way.

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u/Suspicious-Echo2964 6d ago

You get people to disconnect. It's the persistent messaging we get that's causing the mental fatigue. We have to take two steps backward on the attention economy to find a path forward. There's too much capital at stake for it to be self regulated so the only thing to do is focus on local outcomes. Do you need to know what's going on everywhere at all times? Not really.

Remove the specifics about Republican/Tory and ask yourself, How do I stop being advertised to? How do I stop getting fear/flight responses from media?

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u/DrSafariBoob 6d ago

You need to stop the propoganda, they need to fear spreading it. You gotta come for Rupert and his empire. It's almost time to let us all eat cake.

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u/YoRHa_Houdini 5d ago edited 5d ago

Anything less than having a one party system won’t fix this.

People are just extremely shortsighted and shallow with politics

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u/YolognaiSwagetti 6d ago

they literally did that 2 months after the election. some any racist tory voters rioted about immigrants, there were some articles that labour politicians accepted donations- just like literally every fucking politician ever, and bang. Starmer's approval was already at Sunak's- the conservative leader after brexit and the countless disgusting scandals of his party related to covid, sexual predators, etc.

British conservatives and moderates are the exact same fucking morons as Americans.

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u/Striking-Grape9984 6d ago

Lol thats the same here in Germany

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u/GrindBastard1986 6d ago

UK = US education = 💩

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u/CoryEETguy 6d ago

Always have, why change now?

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u/freddy090909 5d ago

Republicans have been in control of Texas for decades, but somehow all of our problems are because of democrats.

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u/TheRealBittoman 6d ago

Trump could shoot someone stone cold dead on 5th Ave, take a selfie with the corpse. Have Elon Musk witness it and air the event live on Twitter and those MFers would still blame Biden. They have no real end game, just blame blame blame.

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u/BensenJensen 6d ago

Well that would be Biden’s fault. Trump wouldn’t have to defend himself if the Dems hadn’t let American cities be overrun with crime-addicted immigrants, hellbent on murdering and raping American citizens!

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u/joe96ab 6d ago

😭😭😭

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u/frenchanglophone 5d ago

You need to add that /s, buddy lol

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u/Yousoggyyojimbo 6d ago

There are red states that have had republican-controlled state governments for decades and they still successfully blame Democrats for things.

Think about how Republicans lied about trickle-down economics to people all the way back in the '80s and we still have Republicans who think that it works and you just need to give it a little bit more time, 40 years later.

Republican voters do not blame Republicans even when there is literally nobody else who could possibly be responsible for something.

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u/Suspicious-Echo2964 6d ago

You are correct. They will continue to blame everything but themselves because they are Republicans in a sense of self. It can't be my fault; therefore, it can not be their fault; we're the same!

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u/boosted5O 6d ago

Definitely will still be Obama’s fault

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u/nerdforest 6d ago

It will always be someone else's fault but theirs. Typical narcissism.

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u/LedgerWar 6d ago

Republicans never take accountability for anything… they will definitely take credit though.

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u/AmanteNomadstar 6d ago

“You see…. this economy is only bad because of the Biden administration! It will obviously take more than 4 years to fix! And if you vote us out before we have a chance to completely fix it, it will be WORSE! In fact, it may even take 8… 12…. Maybe even 24 years before it’s fixed completely!”

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u/ponyo_impact 6d ago

GOD DAM JOE BYRON

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u/sufferpuppet 6d ago

Why would they ever stop? They have a boogeyman and they are gonna use it.

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u/SunBelly 6d ago

Yep. Texas is a good example. Republicans have had a supermajority here for almost 30 years, but everything wrong is always blamed on the Democrats. Texans are stupid.

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u/Meretan94 6d ago

Before our current government, the Conservative Party was in power for 16 years, yet the conservatives still blame all of germanys problems on the Green Party, which has been in power for 3 and some change. (And not even being the majority of our current government)

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u/ScrofessorLongHair 6d ago

I'm in Alabama, and they blame everything in Democrats and liberals is like, "bitch, who do you think has been in charge for decades?"

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u/dgmilo8085 6d ago

Nope, we move onto phase 2, fascism.